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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 11, 2020 22:30:32 GMT -5
It's religion that is the drug. It has the same affect as an opioid. Plenty of things fall under the meaning of religion. Do you mean all of them or are you just singling out some?. Any belief in a supernatural being that requires the believer to cast aside rational thought.
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Post by chuck on Apr 11, 2020 22:37:26 GMT -5
Plenty of things fall under the meaning of religion. Do you mean all of them or are you just singling out some?. Any belief in a supernatural being that requires the believer to cast aside rational thought. So just singling out some them. Why is something supernatural irrational?. How many things have gone from irrational to rational over the 1000's of years?. So where they really irrational?. Not being smart btw.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 11, 2020 22:51:38 GMT -5
Any belief in a supernatural being that requires the believer to cast aside rational thought. So just singling out some them. Why is something supernatural irrational?. How many things have gone from irrational to rational over the 1000's of years?. So where they really irrational?. Not being smart btw. Space travel both manned and unmanned Submarines The realization that the earth is not the centre of the universe. That there are more planets out there, even though they look like stars. Venus for instance. The infernal combustion engine. A bicycle. Building a pyramid That's just some. Feel free to add to the list.
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Post by chuck on Apr 11, 2020 22:54:18 GMT -5
So just singling out some them. Why is something supernatural irrational?. How many things have gone from irrational to rational over the 1000's of years?. So where they really irrational?. Not being smart btw. Space travel both manned and unmanned Submarines The realization that the earth is not the centre of the universe. So were they really irrational?.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 11, 2020 22:57:18 GMT -5
Space travel both manned and unmanned Submarines The realization that the earth is not the centre of the universe. So were they really irrational?. I think that if you told a bloke living in a cave 100k years ago that some blokes would fly to the moon one day, hop out and wander around on it then they would tell you that you are crazy. Which is another way of saying that is an irrational thought.
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Post by chuck on Apr 11, 2020 23:01:50 GMT -5
So were they really irrational?. I think that if you told a bloke living in a cave 100k years ago that some blokes would fly to the moon one day, hop out and wander around on it then they would tell you that you are crazy. Which is another way of saying that is an irrational thought. Right, so you can't really say something is truely irrational can you.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 11, 2020 23:17:43 GMT -5
I think that if you told a bloke living in a cave 100k years ago that some blokes would fly to the moon one day, hop out and wander around on it then they would tell you that you are crazy. Which is another way of saying that is an irrational thought. Right, so you can't really say something is truely irrational can you. Yes, of course I can. Here is a list of what was irrational at the time it was written or said and it still is. This list is not inclusive as I have not got the time to write the complete bible down here. Feel free to add to the list. Creation in seven days Talking snakes. Woman made from a rib from a man a world wide flood a virgin birth a man walking on water a man making wine from water a man coming back to life after being crucified a man ascending skywards. talking donkeys. I think you probably spend more time reading your bible than I do so feel free to add to the list of irrational beliefs.
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Post by iam on Apr 11, 2020 23:40:29 GMT -5
Space travel both manned and unmanned Submarines The realization that the earth is not the centre of the universe. So were they really irrational?. What's wrong with irrational in terms of the bible? That it's not rational? What does it matter?
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Post by iam on Apr 11, 2020 23:43:53 GMT -5
Plenty of things fall under the meaning of religion. Do you mean all of them or are you just singling out some?. Any belief in a supernatural being that requires the believer to cast aside rational thought. I have never considered God to be supernatural. That's like Superman or the Hulk and stuff.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 11, 2020 23:58:07 GMT -5
Any belief in a supernatural being that requires the believer to cast aside rational thought. I have never considered God to be supernatural. That's like Superman or the Hulk and stuff. That's right, they are just later versions of the same make believe stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 0:03:33 GMT -5
Rationalism can get you to a sort of reasonable uncertainty on the issue. It does not get you to a personal God who cares who you sleep with, or what length one's hair is however.
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Post by Get off of TMB on Apr 12, 2020 14:12:01 GMT -5
There are some intelligent workers in the eastern US who have excellent computer skills. Why is it that the overseers are the ones who know so little about technology? How do those kind rise quickly throught the ranks of the work? The eastern US overseers are against old folks listening to meetings by phone. How did this happen? Seems like the computer savvy ones are left with the job of creating lists, little address books, etc.. Those without computuer skills climb up the ranks of responsibility.
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Post by chuck on Apr 12, 2020 18:55:00 GMT -5
Right, so you can't really say something is truely irrational can you. Yes, of course I can. Here is a list of what was irrational at the time it was written or said and it still is. This list is not inclusive as I have not got the time to write the complete bible down here. Feel free to add to the list. Creation in seven days Talking snakes. Woman made from a rib from a man a world wide flood a virgin birth a man walking on water a man making wine from water a man coming back to life after being crucified a man ascending skywards. talking donkeys. I think you probably spend more time reading your bible than I do so feel free to add to the list of irrational beliefs. You get hung up on the fact wether its literal or not and miss the message. And we have just shown how something irrational cannot truely be called irrational.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 12, 2020 19:16:36 GMT -5
Yes, of course I can. Here is a list of what was irrational at the time it was written or said and it still is. This list is not inclusive as I have not got the time to write the complete bible down here. Feel free to add to the list. Creation in seven days Talking snakes. Woman made from a rib from a man a world wide flood a virgin birth a man walking on water a man making wine from water a man coming back to life after being crucified a man ascending skywards. talking donkeys. I think you probably spend more time reading your bible than I do so feel free to add to the list of irrational beliefs. You get hung up on the fact wether its literal or not and miss the message. And we have just shown how something irrational cannot truely be called irrational. Wrong on both counts. There is no accounting for how a believers mind works.
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Post by chuck on Apr 12, 2020 19:29:05 GMT -5
You get hung up on the fact wether its literal or not and miss the message. And we have just shown how something irrational cannot truely be called irrational. Wrong on both counts. There is no accounting for how a believers mind works. So you read the 7 day creation account as a science book and say its irrational?.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 12, 2020 19:32:05 GMT -5
Wrong on both counts. There is no accounting for how a believers mind works. So you read the 7 day creation account as a science book and say its irrational?. It is certainly not science. It is not even worth considering it to be anything else other than the vain imaginings of a primitive people.
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Post by chuck on Apr 12, 2020 19:33:08 GMT -5
So were they really irrational?. What's wrong with irrational in terms of the bible? That it's not rational? What does it matter? I'm not really arguing for either. What I am saying is how can you call something truely irrational since all of his irrational ideas have become rational.
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Post by chuck on Apr 12, 2020 19:36:32 GMT -5
So you read the 7 day creation account as a science book and say its irrational?. It is certainly not science. It is not even worth considering it to be anything else other than the vain imaginings of a primitive people. Thats not what I asked. In which way do you read the 7 day creation account for it to become irrational?. Do you read it as a science book? Do you read it as a poem ect?. Primitive compared to who?.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 12, 2020 19:39:25 GMT -5
It is certainly not science. It is not even worth considering it to be anything else other than the vain imaginings of a primitive people. Thats not what I asked. In which way do you read the 7 day creation account for it to become irrational?. Do you read it as a science book? Do you read it as a poem ect?. Primitive compared to who?. Chuck, if you have questions regarding the irrationality of the bible then I suggest you go read some good science.
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Post by chuck on Apr 12, 2020 21:15:03 GMT -5
Thats not what I asked. In which way do you read the 7 day creation account for it to become irrational?. Do you read it as a science book? Do you read it as a poem ect?. Primitive compared to who?. Chuck, if you have questions regarding the irrationality of the bible then I suggest you go read some good science. What like you read the bible!. Then I wouldnt believe in science, no thanks.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 12, 2020 22:28:09 GMT -5
Chuck, if you have questions regarding the irrationality of the bible then I suggest you go read some good science. What like you read the bible!. Then I wouldnt believe in science, no thanks. That's fine, I understand that people like you prefer fiction books rather than non fiction.
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Post by chuck on Apr 12, 2020 22:34:56 GMT -5
What like you read the bible!. Then I wouldnt believe in science, no thanks. That's fine, I understand that people like you prefer fiction books rather than non fiction. Say's the non primitive person!.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 12, 2020 22:38:46 GMT -5
That's fine, I understand that people like you prefer fiction books rather than non fiction. Say's the non primitive person!. Are you having a slow day Chuck? There are other things you could be doing. such as watching the rubbish truck go by or checking to see if the sun rose in the east this morning.
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Post by chuck on Apr 12, 2020 22:42:01 GMT -5
Say's the non primitive person!. Are you having a slow day Chuck? There are other things you could be doing. such as watching the rubbish truck go by or checking to see if the sun rose in the east this morning. Or learning how to create carrier pigeons. Surely a non primitive person like yourself should have instructions for these simple matters. Care to share them!.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 12, 2020 22:47:32 GMT -5
Are you having a slow day Chuck? There are other things you could be doing. such as watching the rubbish truck go by or checking to see if the sun rose in the east this morning. Or learning how to create carrier pigeons. Surely a non primitive person like yourself should have instructions for these simple matters. Care to share them!. Don't do it. They mess in your pocket.
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Post by chuck on Apr 13, 2020 0:48:00 GMT -5
Or learning how to create carrier pigeons. Surely a non primitive person like yourself should have instructions for these simple matters. Care to share them!. Don't do it. They mess in your pocket. Let us know when you have them.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 13, 2020 0:54:48 GMT -5
Don't do it. They mess in your pocket. Let us know when you have them. I'm not into pigeons. They are the rats of the sky.
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Post by iam on Apr 13, 2020 1:19:27 GMT -5
Speaking of rational, where is he? His name keeps getting tossed around here left right and center😏
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