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Post by faune on Apr 4, 2014 18:17:31 GMT -5
By the way, where are all the gay workers and ex-workers that this thread implies exist? I don't think dmmichgood, faune, snow, rational or Bob W fall into that category. Not sure about hangingout. I mean, with a handle like that... it just BEGS for the wink-wink nudge-nudge puns to begin!  Just joshin' with ya, HO! I know one who is still a worker. Want me to tell you who it is? ~ Why not? Was he an overseer at one time, too, but got demoted and relocated to the Southeast? Just wondering? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2014 18:20:47 GMT -5
wouldn't that be getting a little personal in "outing" someone without thier permission?
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Post by faune on Apr 4, 2014 18:32:03 GMT -5
Just trying to keep this thread up until someone can come back to post. Dmmichgood ~ I just added an update to my earlier post to advise you all that Hangingout hopes to be able to respond to Snow's question by this weekend.
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Post by faune on Apr 4, 2014 18:39:01 GMT -5
By the way, where are all the gay workers and ex-workers that this thread implies exist? I don't think dmmichgood, faune, snow, rational or Bob W fall into that category. Not sure about hangingout. I mean, with a handle like that... it just BEGS for the wink-wink nudge-nudge puns to begin! Just joshin' with ya, HO! Gene ~ You're quite an entertainer here on TMB and we all love you.  You're always great for "ice breakers" when we need one!
By the way, did anybody check out my last post to the Doris Day thread yesterday? Here's something I posted that might fit quite well on this thread, too? I started this thread on her because there was a rumor on Facebook that turned out to be a "hoax" but got over a million hits. It attested to the fact that she had died the day before her birthday and even provided a false obituary. Since she never died and was very much alive, I started a thread in her honor on her 90th birthday on April 3, 2014. Perhaps this was a late April Fool's Day joke?
professing.proboards.com/thread/21943/doris-years-today-looking-great
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 4, 2014 19:06:58 GMT -5
By the way, where are all the gay workers and ex-workers that this thread implies exist? I don't think dmmichgood, faune, snow, rational or Bob W fall into that category. Not sure about hangingout. I mean, with a handle like that... it just BEGS for the wink-wink nudge-nudge puns to begin! Just joshin' with ya, HO!
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 4, 2014 19:43:27 GMT -5
I know one who is still a worker. Want me to tell you who it is? ~ Why not? Was he an overseer at one time, too, but got demoted and relocated to the Southeast? Just wondering? Haven't heard about that one. Actually I shouldn't tell who this guy is because he's been in the work over 20 years and has an impeccable record at keeping his eyes from wandering, his hands from roaming, and his pants from unzipping. We need more like him. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 4, 2014 19:49:09 GMT -5
wouldn't that be getting a little personal in "outing" someone without thier permission? I don't know. He told my informant, but my informant needs some respect too. No one needs to be hiding their wee ones from him without a proper reason. |
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Post by faune on Apr 4, 2014 20:38:56 GMT -5
Bob ~ Why not? Was he an overseer at one time, too, but got demoted and relocated to the Southeast? Just wondering? Haven't heard about that one. Actually I shouldn't tell who this guy is because he's been in the work over 20 years and has an impeccable record at keeping his eyes from wandering, his hands from roaming, and his pants from unzipping. We need more like him. Well, Bob you got my curiosity up for sure. I guess you can PM me with your info. and I will share my tidbit, too. Deal? |
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Post by rational on Apr 4, 2014 20:48:26 GMT -5
wouldn't that be getting a little personal in "outing" someone without thier permission? I don't know. He told my informant, but my informant needs some respect too. No one needs to be hiding their wee ones from him without a proper reason. Why does anyone need to know the sexual preferences of someone else? Why are people other than the individual making this known? And why shouldn't people be as careful with this individual as they would be with any other adult? So many questions! |
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Post by rational on Apr 4, 2014 20:52:47 GMT -5
Haven't heard about that one. Actually I shouldn't tell who this guy is because he's been in the work over 20 years and has an impeccable record at keeping his eyes from wandering, his hands from roaming, and his pants from unzipping. We need more like him. So, "No", you shouldn't tell anyone. Well, Bob you got my curiosity up for sure. I guess you can PM me with your info. and I will share my tidbit, too. Deal? :D Again, why is knowing the personal intimate details of someone so important to you? |
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Post by faune on Apr 4, 2014 21:20:27 GMT -5
Haven't heard about that one. Actually I shouldn't tell who this guy is because he's been in the work over 20 years and has an impeccable record at keeping his eyes from wandering, his hands from roaming, and his pants from unzipping. We need more like him. So, "No", you shouldn't tell anyone. Well, Bob you got my curiosity up for sure. I guess you can PM me with your info. and I will share my tidbit, too. Deal? Again, why is knowing the personal intimate details of someone so important to you? ~ Come on now ~ just having some fun with Bob! I really don't care to know any details about whoever this may be. If he's been a good boy for 20 years, as Bob said, it's better kept under wraps anyway! |
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Post by faune on Apr 4, 2014 21:23:17 GMT -5
I don't know. He told my informant, but my informant needs some respect too. No one needs to be hiding their wee ones from him without a proper reason. Why does anyone need to know the sexual preferences of someone else? Why are people other than the individual making this known? And why shouldn't people be as careful with this individual as they would be with any other adult? So many questions! ~ There would be no need to be careful around any gay worker unless he was also engaging in CSA and a danger to young children. JMT |
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Post by faune on Apr 4, 2014 21:51:00 GMT -5
Did anybody notice at the beginning of this article regarding Rock Hudson's last days in 1985, that he had a visit on his deathbed by some Pentecostal ladies, which included Pat Boone's wife, Shirley, and another woman from the same Pentecostal Church in Van Nuys, CA. They chanted "Get the disease out of the body" and prayed in tongues over his dead body for half an hour while the coroner waited downstairs. Honestly, if he was already dead or almost there, I can't understand the reasoning for such bizarre behavior? 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Hudson
www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20091996,00.html
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 4, 2014 22:16:59 GMT -5
Haven't heard about that one. Actually I shouldn't tell who this guy is because he's been in the work over 20 years and has an impeccable record at keeping his eyes from wandering, his hands from roaming, and his pants from unzipping. We need more like him. Well, Bob you got my curiosity up for sure. I guess you can PM me with your info. and I will share my tidbit, too. Deal? Meet you in Wally-World. |
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Post by faune on Apr 4, 2014 22:23:46 GMT -5
Well, Bob you got my curiosity up for sure. I guess you can PM me with your info. and I will share my tidbit, too. Deal? Meet you in Wally-World. That's a deal! Honestly, Bob, you are getting both of us in trouble with your sense of humor! 
Rational even thought I was serious, too. 
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 4, 2014 22:25:28 GMT -5
I don't know. He told my informant, but my informant needs some respect too. No one needs to be hiding their wee ones from him without a proper reason. Why does anyone need to know the sexual preferences of someone else? Why are people other than the individual making this known? And why shouldn't people be as careful with this individual as they would be with any other adult? So many questions! The reason I was privy to such private information was because I was in fact doing legitimate research into the lives of gay workers. I assure you, NO ONE in this group knows either one of the two people I mentioned, and like a good journalist I do not reveal my sources. But the information was most enlightening, and I used it professionally. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 4, 2014 22:41:19 GMT -5
Haven't heard about that one. Actually I shouldn't tell who this guy is because he's been in the work over 20 years and has an impeccable record at keeping his eyes from wandering, his hands from roaming, and his pants from unzipping. We need more like him. So, "No", you shouldn't tell anyone. Well, Bob you got my curiosity up for sure. I guess you can PM me with your info. and I will share my tidbit, too. Deal? Again, why is knowing the personal intimate details of someone so important to you? I certainly agree with you. I think I am in a somewhat unusual situation compared with most others in this group because it seems that any gay worker mentioned here is either "out" or has raised some suspicions other than being a patsy boy. I'm really not interested and certainly would not discuss the private lives of consenting adults. I don't have a problem with people knowing what CSA offenders actually do because they are criminals and far too many people do not realize what sick stuff they do with kids. I know one professing man who poopooed every discussion of CSA by workers until he read the case as presented to the court. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 4, 2014 22:44:46 GMT -5
So, "No", you shouldn't tell anyone.Again, why is knowing the personal intimate details of someone so important to you? ~ Come on now ~ just having some fun with Bob! I really don't care to know any details about whoever this may be. If he's been a good boy for 20 years, as Bob said, it's better kept under wraps anyway! But you know, we can sit in a coffee shop a spin up some really hot stories for each other whether they're true or not. I mean, what is coffee and conversation for. Now let me see, what part of what she said can I repeat? Damn, that was fun talking. You can sell some of those short stories for upwards of $50.  |
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 4, 2014 22:46:02 GMT -5
Meet you in Wally-World. That's a deal! Honestly, Bob, you are getting both of us in trouble with your sense of humor!
Rational even thought I was serious, too.
Rational, if you tell her husband I will pay you a visit. |
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Post by rational on Apr 5, 2014 8:49:52 GMT -5
Rational ~ There would be no need to be careful around any gay worker unless he was also engaging in CSA and a danger to young children. JMT And this is what causes problems. The sexuality of the person doesn't matter. Parents need to take care when their children are around other people. People who are going to abuse children rarely announce their intentions. Saying there is no need to be careful around any gay worker is so wrong on so many levels that I can not believe you stated it. |
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Post by rational on Apr 5, 2014 8:58:22 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with people knowing what CSA offenders actually do because they are criminals and far too many people do not realize what sick stuff they do with kids. There is a wide range and I believe that in most people's imagination they imagine the worst.There is a difference between a CSA offender and a rumored CSA offender. I am on the side of giving the person the benefit of the doubt, especially if the incident has not been reported to the authorities. If the victim is making the accusation it should be made to an authority that can actually do something. |
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Post by rational on Apr 5, 2014 9:03:42 GMT -5
Rational, if you tell her husband I will pay you a visit. Is this a reward or a punishment? |
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Post by faune on Apr 5, 2014 9:51:02 GMT -5
Rational ~ There would be no need to be careful around any gay worker unless he was also engaging in CSA and a danger to young children. JMT And this is what causes problems. The sexuality of the person doesn't matter. Parents need to take care when their children are around other people. People who are going to abuse children rarely announce their intentions. Saying there is no need to be careful around any gay worker is so wrong on so many levels that I can not believe you stated it. Rational ~ After re-reading my answer, I do see how my point could be misconstrued. However, we have been discussing gay workers on this very long thread and the gay lifestyle, so I was keeping with the topic of discussion. Some people are simply very homophobic about gays in general, thinking they are capable of all kinds of wrong, including CSA, due to their sexual predisposition. I don't share this opinion, but do agree with your own opinion that parents need to be observant when their children are around people in general, as a child abuser rarely announces their intentions and can come across as trustworthy and upright, too.
Also, according to statistics, the victim often knows their offender and trust them as a friend ~ like family members, relatives, and close family associates. They may also appear very normal and harmless and be a predator on young children. When these people do act out their perverted fantasies with young children, they definitely need to be reported to proper authorities regardless of their association with the victim, because this is a criminal offense!
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Post by rational on Apr 5, 2014 10:09:11 GMT -5
And this is what causes problems. The sexuality of the person doesn't matter. Parents need to take care when their children are around other people. People who are going to abuse children rarely announce their intentions. Saying there is no need to be careful around any gay worker is so wrong on so many levels that I can not believe you stated it. Rational ~ After re-reading my answer, I do see how my point could be misconstrued. However, we have been discussing gay workers on this very long thread and the gay lifestyle, so I was keeping with the topic of discussion. Some people are simply very homophobic about gays in general, thinking they are capable of all kinds of wrong, including CSA, due to their sexual predisposition. I don't share this opinion, but do agree with your own opinion that parents need to be observant when their children are around people in general, as a child abuser rarely announces their intentions and can come across as trustworthy and upright, too.
Also, according to statistics, the victim often knows their offender and trust them as a friend ~ like family members, relatives, and close family associates. They may also appear very normal and harmless and be a predator on young children. When these people do act out their perverted fantasies with young children, they definitely need to be reported to proper authorities regardless of their association with the victim, because this is a criminal offense!
You get yourself so wrapped up in so many irrelevant details that when you try to correct errors and extract yourself you appear like someone who is dancing with a coil of concertina wire. Your point was not misconstrued. |
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Post by faune on Apr 5, 2014 10:27:41 GMT -5
Rational ~ After re-reading my answer, I do see how my point could be misconstrued. However, we have been discussing gay workers on this very long thread and the gay lifestyle, so I was keeping with the topic of discussion. Some people are simply very homophobic about gays in general, thinking they are capable of all kinds of wrong, including CSA, due to their sexual predisposition. I don't share this opinion, but do agree with your own opinion that parents need to be observant when their children are around people in general, as a child abuser rarely announces their intentions and can come across as trustworthy and upright, too.
Also, according to statistics, the victim often knows their offender and trust them as a friend ~ like family members, relatives, and close family associates. They may also appear very normal and harmless and be a predator on young children. When these people do act out their perverted fantasies with young children, they definitely need to be reported to proper authorities regardless of their association with the victim, because this is a criminal offense!
You get yourself so wrapped up in so many irrelevant details that when you try to correct errors and extract yourself you appear like someone who is dancing with a coil of concertina wire. Your point was not misconstrued. Rational ~ O.K. I screwed up! I admit it. I now see the light due to your wisdom in pointing it out to me. However, I was thinking about people being homophobic in my response on this thread dealing with gay workers. My thoughts just didn't come out right and could easily have conveyed something entirely different than I originally intended. I admit to that fact! I didn't pick up on this error in communication until you actually brought it to my personal attention. Thank you for being so observant! I hoped my explanation that followed conveyed my true feelings regarding this matter. If not, than I probably screwed up again? 
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 5, 2014 12:58:05 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with people knowing what CSA offenders actually do because they are criminals and far too many people do not realize what sick stuff they do with kids. There is a wide range and I believe that in most people's imagination they imagine the worst.There is a difference between a CSA offender and a rumored CSA offender. I am on the side of giving the person the benefit of the doubt, especially if the incident has not been reported to the authorities. If the victim is making the accusation it should be made to an authority that can actually do something. If you want to give someone the benefit of the doubt, don't leave him at the mercy of the gossip mongers. Report him to the authorities and wait until they decide whether the accusation is merited or not. They're the ONLY ones with the authority and means to properly investigate such a matter and effectively clear his name. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 5, 2014 12:58:53 GMT -5
Rational, if you tell her husband I will pay you a visit. Is this a reward or a punishment? Depends what kind of kink you're into. |
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Post by rational on Apr 5, 2014 16:11:30 GMT -5
If you want to give someone the benefit of the doubt, don't leave him at the mercy of the gossip mongers. Report him to the authorities and wait until they decide whether the accusation is merited or not. They're the ONLY ones with the authority and means to properly investigate such a matter and effectively clear his name. Fortunately, I am not in the mainstream of gossip and never hear names and when I do it is N th hand knowledge. And if you press the gossip mongers the facts usually leads to another person relating the same 'news', sometimes, I think, in a endless circle. Perhaps more like a Möbius strip that seems to go on and on but is single sided. |
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Just joshin' with ya, HO!
You're always great for "ice breakers" when we need one!
However, he was such a good actor and I enjoyed seeing him in a lot of these old movies, including "Giant" with a young Elizabeth Taylor. 
