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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 1, 2014 23:04:30 GMT -5
It's okay. My granddaughter pats my face, kisses me, and plays with my beard and moustache -- so there!!!!! OK! OK! You win!
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Post by faune on Apr 1, 2014 23:18:31 GMT -5
Dmmichgood ~ I'm not very good at these things. But when I put my picture out there in the past, Gene gave me some simple instructions to follow. The problem is that I can't remember what he told me back then. My age is catching up to me these days! I'm sure Rational can help along these lines, too? I believe I used Image Shack in the past to get a code which I could use to insert a photo avatar. However, if you already have the hardest part taken care of, then all you have to do is insert a 100x100 size photo into the proper place for a photo ID as an avatar.
I just found some simple instructions that my help you, DMG? Here's the link. I believe I will save this myself for future use, too! However, Image Shack isn't free anymore. There's a yearly charge of $14.00 to use the service now. I don't know about the other one I also recommended as far as a free service. You would need to check that out?
forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/12193-how-to-use-images-in-your-posts-signatures-and-avatars/
Thanks, faune,
-sigh, now if I can just unravel those instructions, maybe you will be able to see my beautiful ultra-mature face within the next year or two. Dmmichgood ~ Are you ready for a good April Fool's Day joke? In trying to figure out how I posted my original photo avatar, I accidently deleted it and ended up posting my default avatar instead. Now we both have the problem of figuring out those instructions and are both in need of assistance!
By the way, you can help me with a problem, too. I've been trying to figure out how you enlarge the font size on this Board and getting really frustrated over my ignorance. Since you have used it a lot lately, could you give me some tips on how to make my words stand out when I want to make a real impression? ~ DMG, I'm serious now! I tried it earlier and all I could do was put my words in PINK to convey an "inside joke" here on this particular thread.
P.S. ~ Dmmichgood ~ We will be anxiously awaiting your "coming out" here on this thread!
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Post by snow on Apr 1, 2014 23:19:14 GMT -5
Snow, eh, I didn't realize you live in Canada! I think we should be able to provide a service in ways we are most comfortable ... If I am not comfortable with something. I should have the right to refuse service. just my opinion. lol thankful, doesn't all 'snow' live in Canada.... Well I guess we do share it with a few other countries. I think that we do need to make sure we don't discriminate against people just because we don't share their beliefs, unless of course they are asking us to do something illegal.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 1, 2014 23:19:34 GMT -5
Shop owners should not be required to produce goods with which they disagree. If someone asks them to create a cake with a swastika they have every right to refuse. Rational, anything with hate speech on it I would agree. But to refuse to serve someone based on a biased belief about them, isn't that illegal? Isn't that considered discrimination which in Canada anyway, we can't discriminate based on race, gender or sexual preferences. The display of a swastika has been defended by the US Supreme Court on occasion because it was not used as a threat to a specific person/people ... a legally organized parade, for example. If I were asked to put that on a cake, I would ask, "And if I don't?" If the answer was "I'll go somewhere else, I would offer to do it anyway and ask them if anyone had ever refused such a request. If the answer was "Then I'll blow up your shop," I would comply and take special note of everyone in the shop, find a way to notify the police, and take as long to get the job done as possible. Where the religious fanatics run into trouble is that they actually say why they are refusing -- that it is because of the sexual orientation of the buyer. Can a Christian refuse service to anyone because he is an atheist? or an Asian? or a cripple? Can Mormons refuse to serve people who do not wear magic underwear? But you know the US Constitution does not forbid discrimination based on gender.
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Post by snow on Apr 1, 2014 23:21:12 GMT -5
"If there was anything that was worth defending in those beliefs" and if there were some truth to them, they would not be "be picked apart pretty much endlessly". What I'm reading: Contempt"The things in the bible should be things no decent person would condone when it comes to stoning your children," The one example I've found of that relates to debauchery and drunkenness, hardly something an actual child would be capable of. [Deut. 21:18-21] Nevertheless, yes, capital punishment for profligacy and drunkenness is not something society would advocate today, of course. Simply put, Jesus is The Way. "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral.....nor drunkards....will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." 1 Cor. 6:9-11"killing homosexuals" Harsh, no doubt. The moral reservation remains (part of sexual sin) but we don't respond to it in the same way, obviously."selling your daughters," Selling your daughters...that is out of context, you know. Slavery was part of near eastern culture, and conditions in this period were brutal all around. He instituted laws which gave some gradient steps forward, i.e., improvements. Just as you wouldn't instruct first graders in Calculus, but bring them up gradually, step by step, precept by precept, God's laws were leading a brutal society to a higher form of social interaction. Conditions in the ancient near east had some common features (purification/cleansing rituals; sacrifices (plant, animal, drink, and human sacrifice; pan/polytheism; theocracy; "sacred" prostitution; divination and magic) and God (YHWH) dealt all of these by forbidding some and refashioning others.
Child sacrifice, polytheism, prostitution in all its forms, and divination and magic were outlawed.
Leviticus 19:29, "Do not debase your daughter by making her a prostitute, or the land will be prostituted and filled with depravity."
The laws around slavery www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2021 were actually improvements in their time.
From our comfortable chairs today we might scoff at these, but when we do, we forget that the incremental steps outlined in the laws of the Bible led, over centuries, to the ultimate Way, Jesus, who taught us that all of the laws and the prophets hang on these two commandments: Loving God first and loving our neighbor as ourselves.
"Does this not raise some pretty major red flags for you at all?" Seen by that armchair today, sure. Seen as they were: incremental improvements necessary in their time, no. Leading to Jesus, no red flags. Because now we have the New Covenant. Now we have The Way: Jesus.
hangingout, who made those quotes that you are answering?
Might be a good idea to give them an identity.
dmg, for the record that was me that she was quoting and answering.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 1, 2014 23:23:35 GMT -5
Snow, eh, I didn't realize you live in Canada! I think we should be able to provide a service in ways we are most comfortable ... If I am not comfortable with something. I should have the right to refuse service. just my opinion. lol thankful, doesn't all 'snow' live in Canada.... Well I guess we do share it with a few other countries. I think that we do need to make sure we don't discriminate against people just because we don't share their beliefs, unless of course they are asking us to do something illegal. It has been known to snow on the 4th of July in California -- rarely and only at certain altitudes, of course. One year on the last day of school for the year at Lake Tahoe was the iciest I have ever seen on my way to work. I was certain I was going to end up in a canyon or the lake.
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Post by snow on Apr 1, 2014 23:25:15 GMT -5
Rational, anything with hate speech on it I would agree. But to refuse to serve someone based on a biased belief about them, isn't that illegal? Isn't that considered discrimination which in Canada anyway, we can't discriminate based on race, gender or sexual preferences. The display of a swastika has been defended by the US Supreme Court on occasion because it was not used as a threat to a specific person/people ... a legally organized parade, for example. If I were asked to put that on a cake, I would ask, "And if I don't?" If the answer was "I'll go somewhere else, I would offer to do it anyway and ask them if anyone had ever refused such a request. If the answer was "Then I'll blow up your shop," I would comply and take special note of everyone in the shop, find a way to notify the police, and take as long to get the job done as possible. Where the religious fanatics run into trouble is that they actually say why they are refusing -- that it is because of the sexual orientation of the buyer. Can a Christian refuse service to anyone because he is an atheist? or an Asian? or a cripple? Can Mormons refuse to serve people who do not wear magic underwear? But you know the US Constitution does not forbid discrimination based on gender. So there are no laws in the states that don't allow you to discriminate based on race, gender and sexual orientation?
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Post by snow on Apr 1, 2014 23:27:00 GMT -5
lol thankful, doesn't all 'snow' live in Canada.... Well I guess we do share it with a few other countries. I think that we do need to make sure we don't discriminate against people just because we don't share their beliefs, unless of course they are asking us to do something illegal. It has been known to snow on the 4th of July in California -- rarely and only at certain altitudes, of course. One year on the last day of school for the year at Lake Tahoe was the iciest I have ever seen on my way to work. I was certain I was going to end up in a canyon or the lake. yes, I know about snow in the states. It seems when we head back up north going through Idaho and Montana it does love to blizzard. Makes me want to turn around and head back to Quartzsite lol.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 1, 2014 23:36:44 GMT -5
Snow, eh, I didn't realize you live in Canada! I think we should be able to provide a service in ways we are most comfortable ... If I am not comfortable with something. I should have the right to refuse service. just my opinion. If you are not comfortable with something, then you either (1) shouldn't be working for that company, or (2) if you're the owner, you shouldn't be offering that service. There are enough people who would love to have your job, and you are free to go anywhere you feel comfortable. There is a solution to this dilemma for these types of businesses. They can hang out a sign something like: "Crazy Corky's Christian Cake Club", sell the customers a $1 membership card upon proof that they're a Christian, and then let them order what they want. Or, in order to filter out all the homosexual clients, call the club something like: "Hairy Harry's Hetero Hideout". Checking the patrons' qualifications might be ... an interesting job.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 1, 2014 23:39:18 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Apr 2, 2014 0:11:56 GMT -5
And this is why people who hold those beliefs should really think about what they are upholding. The acting out of a few verses in an ancient book is barbaric.
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 2, 2014 1:06:26 GMT -5
And this is why people who hold those beliefs should really think about what they are upholding. The acting out of a few verses in an ancient book is barbaric. Sometimes, as was in this news item, where these men beat up this woman because she had married another woman, -that it really isn't any ideal or belief that they are upholding but simply because they couldn't stand that fact that she would prefer a WOMAN instead of them!
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 2, 2014 14:15:20 GMT -5
snow, I have a paper to write, but I'll be answering you soon Snow, hangingout hasn't answered you yet. She must be very busy.
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Post by snow on Apr 2, 2014 15:34:05 GMT -5
snow, I have a paper to write, but I'll be answering you soon Snow, hangingout hasn't answered you yet. She must be very busy.It sounds like she is in school or college if she's writing a paper. So maybe she IS pretty busy. I do remember those days so I can wait a little longer for an answer. Trouble is, I'm going to have to go back and figure out what the question was it's so long ago lol and my memory is getting worse as I get older lol...
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Post by snow on Apr 2, 2014 15:34:50 GMT -5
And this is why people who hold those beliefs should really think about what they are upholding. The acting out of a few verses in an ancient book is barbaric. Sometimes, as was in this news item, where these men beat up this woman because she had married another woman, -that it really isn't any ideal or belief that they are upholding but simply because they couldn't stand that fact that she would prefer a WOMAN instead of them!
Yes, that's true. It isn't always about those 'verses'. Sometimes it's purely being a jerk.
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 2, 2014 23:47:05 GMT -5
Snow, hangingout hasn't answered you yet. She must be very busy. It sounds like she is in school or college if she's writing a paper. So maybe she IS pretty busy. I do remember those days so I can wait a little longer for an answer. Trouble is, I'm going to have to go back and figure out what the question was it's so long ago lol and my memory is getting worse as I get older lol... Is there any chance she could be welching out on the discussion, I wonder?
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Post by rational on Apr 2, 2014 23:52:49 GMT -5
Is there any chance she could be welching out on the discussion, I wonder? Not sure there is any reason to jump to this conclusion.
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Post by faune on Apr 3, 2014 0:31:10 GMT -5
Snow, hangingout hasn't answered you yet. She must be very busy. It sounds like she is in school or college if she's writing a paper. So maybe she IS pretty busy. I do remember those days so I can wait a little longer for an answer. Trouble is, I'm going to have to go back and figure out what the question was it's so long ago lol and my memory is getting worse as I get older lol...Snow ~ You're not the only one with this problem. Some days I have to write things on a To Do List so as I don't forget what needs to be done that day or next. Isn't that pathetic? I don't always accomplish everything I wish within the day, so I check off what does get done and worry about the rest tomorrow.
Perhaps the beauty of TMB is that after all is said and done, we just forget what happened the day before and move on to a new thread? As a result, any unkind words spoken are forgotten and we get a clean slate for the next day to mess up.
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 3, 2014 1:19:52 GMT -5
Is there any chance she could be welching out on the discussion, I wonder? Not sure there is any reason to jump to this conclusion. No, could be that she is busy!
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Post by faune on Apr 3, 2014 9:30:26 GMT -5
Not sure there is any reason to jump to this conclusion. No, could be that she is busy!Dmmichgood ~ I can assure you Hangingout is working on an answer for Snow ~ she's just busy finishing up a college paper right now and attending college classes from last I heard via PM. She has a long ways to go before retirement like most of us folks on this Board. Don't you just envy youth?
P.S. The last time I talked to Hangingout via PM, she advised me she was hoping to have an answer to Snow's question, whatever that was back in time, by this weekend and would post it then. She's a really busy college student, so not much time for pro-board discussions until she has some free time on her hands.
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Post by snow on Apr 3, 2014 9:50:16 GMT -5
It sounds like she is in school or college if she's writing a paper. So maybe she IS pretty busy. I do remember those days so I can wait a little longer for an answer. Trouble is, I'm going to have to go back and figure out what the question was it's so long ago lol and my memory is getting worse as I get older lol... Is there any chance she could be welching out on the discussion, I wonder?I don't know, but if she does, she isn't the first one...
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 3, 2014 13:00:40 GMT -5
No, could be that she is busy! Dmmichgood ~ I can assure you Hangingout is working on an answer for Snow ~ she's just busy finishing up a college paper right now and attending college classes from last I heard via PM. She has a long ways to go before retirement like most of us folks on this Board. Don't you just envy youth? Well, good for her!
Actually, I don't envy youth very much other that it would be nice to have a body that didn't complain every time I moved it!
However, all that work, both mental and physical, I really wouldn't want to have to go through again.
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Post by faune on Apr 3, 2014 13:18:39 GMT -5
Dmmichgood ~ I can assure you Hangingout is working on an answer for Snow ~ she's just busy finishing up a college paper right now and attending college classes from last I heard via PM. She has a long ways to go before retirement like most of us folks on this Board. Don't you just envy youth? Well, good for her!
Actually, I don't envy youth very much other that it would be nice to have a body that didn't complain every time I moved it!
However, all that work, both mental and physical, I really wouldn't want to have to go through again.Dmmichgood ~ I can understand the mental and physical grind that goes along with getting an education and the working world. However, I wouldn't mind have my youthful body back again ~ I guess I can dream about that one, huh? I agree that it would be nice to have a body that didn't complain every time we move it due to the aging process!
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 4, 2014 14:58:17 GMT -5
Just trying to keep this thread up until someone can come back to post.
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Post by Gene on Apr 4, 2014 17:03:44 GMT -5
Just trying to keep this thread up until someone can come back to post. Maybe after someone finishes someone's PHD?
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Post by Gene on Apr 4, 2014 17:07:06 GMT -5
By the way, where are all the gay workers and ex-workers that this thread implies exist? I don't think dmmichgood, faune, snow, rational or Bob W fall into that category. Not sure about hangingout. I mean, with a handle like that... it just BEGS for the wink-wink nudge-nudge puns to begin! Just joshin' with ya, HO!
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 4, 2014 17:24:17 GMT -5
By the way, where are all the gay workers and ex-workers that this thread implies exist? I don't think dmmichgood, faune, snow, rational or Bob W fall into that category. Not sure about hangingout. I mean, with a handle like that... it just BEGS for the wink-wink nudge-nudge puns to begin! Just joshin' with ya, HO! I know one who is still a worker. Want me to tell you who it is?
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Post by rational on Apr 4, 2014 18:14:13 GMT -5
By the way, where are all the gay workers and ex-workers that this thread implies exist? I don't think dmmichgood, faune, snow, rational or Bob W fall into that category. Not sure about hangingout. I mean, with a handle like that... it just BEGS for the wink-wink nudge-nudge puns to begin! :) Just joshin' with ya, HO! Does this mean I am going into the closet?
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