Workers should use Evangelical shameware to monitor Friends

[openingact34]

We've often heard from the exes that the workers should learn from the Evangelical churches.  Here's a great opportunity!

There is a huge growing industry serving the worldly churches.  Just one of the 3 major companies made 26 million dollars last year!  The technology now exists so that church leaders are able to monitor everything you do online.  It's just like living in China or North Korea, but with Jesus!  This technology was especially developed to identify porn, but within the Truth you could also use it to alert the workers whenever somebody watches a movie, a music video, or looks at the Telling The Truth website. 

They could force people to install this software if they wanted to profess or get baptized.  It would really put the internet genie back in the bottle. It would also give the workers something very satisfying to do and relieve their boredom.

religionnews.com/2022/09/27/churchs-use-of-anti-porn-shameware-ignites-christian-debates-over-sex-and-sin/
www.wired.com/story/covenant-eyes-anti-porn-accountability-monitoring-apps/

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UGH!

[Dan]

I think that would fall out of the Workers work parameter. God is omniscient, and that's sufficient. Psalm 139 

[BobWilliston]

Sept 27, 2022 21:30:58 GMT -5 openingact34 said:

We've often heard from the exes that the workers should learn from the Evangelical churches.  Here's a great opportunity!

There is a huge growing industry serving the worldly churches.  Just one of the 3 major companies made 26 million dollars last year!  The technology now exists so that church leaders are able to monitor everything you do online.  It's just like living in China or North Korea, but with Jesus!  This technology was especially developed to identify porn, but within the Truth you could also use it to alert the workers whenever somebody watches a movie, a music video, or looks at the Telling The Truth website. 

They could force people to install this software if they wanted to profess or get baptized.  It would really put the internet genie back in the bottle. It would also give the workers something very satisfying to do and relieve their boredom.

religionnews.com/2022/09/27/churchs-use-of-anti-porn-shameware-ignites-christian-debates-over-sex-and-sin/
www.wired.com/story/covenant-eyes-anti-porn-accountability-monitoring-apps/

The workers use the Internet very efficiently when warnings about "dissenters" need to be circulated.

[chuck]

Sept 27, 2022 23:48:01 GMT -5 BobWilliston said:

Sept 27, 2022 21:30:58 GMT -5 openingact34 said:

We've often heard from the exes that the workers should learn from the Evangelical churches.  Here's a great opportunity!

There is a huge growing industry serving the worldly churches.  Just one of the 3 major companies made 26 million dollars last year!  The technology now exists so that church leaders are able to monitor everything you do online.  It's just like living in China or North Korea, but with Jesus!  This technology was especially developed to identify porn, but within the Truth you could also use it to alert the workers whenever somebody watches a movie, a music video, or looks at the Telling The Truth website. 

They could force people to install this software if they wanted to profess or get baptized.  It would really put the internet genie back in the bottle. It would also give the workers something very satisfying to do and relieve their boredom.

religionnews.com/2022/09/27/churchs-use-of-anti-porn-shameware-ignites-christian-debates-over-sex-and-sin/
www.wired.com/story/covenant-eyes-anti-porn-accountability-monitoring-apps/

The workers use the Internet very efficiently when warnings about "dissenters" need to be circulated.

They told me from the platform that the internet was basically evil, so one has to assume workers using the Internet are evil......they set the standard not me...

[nathan]

Sept 28, 2022 5:05:14 GMT -5 chuck said:

Sept 27, 2022 23:48:01 GMT -5 BobWilliston said:

The workers use the Internet very efficiently when warnings about "dissenters" need to be circulated.

They told me from the platform that the internet was basically evil, so one has to assume workers using the Internet are evil......they set the standard not me...

The older generation of workers preached Internet was evil back in 1990s when I was in the work. The younger generation and the current older generation of workers are NO longer said the Internet is evil because most of them use computers, laptops, these days to communicate, keep records for workers lists on disks, and so on.

[verna]

Sept 28, 2022 8:45:12 GMT -5 nathan said:

Sept 28, 2022 5:05:14 GMT -5 chuck said:

They told me from the platform that the internet was basically evil, so one has to assume workers using the Internet are evil......they set the standard not me...

The older generation of workers preached Internet was evil back in 1990s when I was in the work. The younger generation and the current older generation of workers are NO longer said the Internet is evil because most of them use computers, laptops, these days to communicate, keep records for workers lists on disks, and so on.

I find it kind of sad that as soon as something seems to be working for “us” it is no longer evil. Does this not raise some suspicions?

[snow]

Sept 27, 2022 23:44:13 GMT -5 Dan said:

I think that would fall out of the Workers work parameter. God is omniscient, and that's sufficient. Psalm 139 

Lots of things the workers do is 'out of the Workers work parameter'. They should have no say who gets to be a worker for example. After all most people who offer for the work say God moved them to offer. So when they deny that to these people, they are literally deciding that they know better than God, second guessing someone else's interaction with God.

[snow]

Sept 28, 2022 8:45:12 GMT -5 nathan said:

Sept 28, 2022 5:05:14 GMT -5 chuck said:

They told me from the platform that the internet was basically evil, so one has to assume workers using the Internet are evil......they set the standard not me...

The older generation of workers preached Internet was evil back in 1990s when I was in the work. The younger generation and the current older generation of workers are NO longer said the Internet is evil because most of them use computers, laptops, these days to communicate, keep records for workers lists on disks, and so on.

Religious beliefs should not be changed based on convenience imo. If it was evil then it continues to be evil. Just because it makes their life easier doesn't get them off the hook. But of course history shows us that this is exactly how religion has always worked. If something in the bible becomes 'inconvenient' to continue the practice, well then they just make it no longer a requirement.

[snow]

Sept 28, 2022 10:53:19 GMT -5 verna said:

Sept 28, 2022 8:45:12 GMT -5 nathan said:

The older generation of workers preached Internet was evil back in 1990s when I was in the work. The younger generation and the current older generation of workers are NO longer said the Internet is evil because most of them use computers, laptops, these days to communicate, keep records for workers lists on disks, and so on.

I find it kind of sad that as soon as something seems to be working for “us” it is no longer evil. Does this not raise some suspicions?

Exactly. Religions are a total farce. History has shown so many things that became inconvenient or became considered immoral so they came up with a justification for no longer abiding by them. Not that I have a problem with them not selling their daughters anymore. I just wish that they would also realize that attacking the LGBTQ community was wrong also. It will come and is already being seen in some of the more Christian branches of Christianity. Probably never for the Westboro Baptist church though.

[nathan2]

Sept 28, 2022 10:53:19 GMT -5 verna said:

Sept 28, 2022 8:45:12 GMT -5 nathan said:

The older generation of workers preached Internet was evil back in 1990s when I was in the work. The younger generation and the current older generation of workers are NO longer said the Internet is evil because most of them use computers, laptops, these days to communicate, keep records for workers lists on disks, and so on.

I find it kind of sad that as soon as something seems to be working for “us” it is no longer evil. Does this not raise some suspicions?

The older generation of workers had very little clues that using computers and laptops, and having Iphone are must have items in most occupations and in school.

Without the Internet the children can't turn in theirs homework to the teachers or do research for school projects.

The workers can give advices to the friends but it's up to the friends to decide what is best for them and their children future.

Take the good advices to heart but throw away the bad advices in the garbages. Be in tune with God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit leading and guidance.

[snow]

Sept 28, 2022 15:31:17 GMT -5 nathan2 said:

Sept 28, 2022 10:53:19 GMT -5 verna said:

I find it kind of sad that as soon as something seems to be working for “us” it is no longer evil. Does this not raise some suspicions?

The older generation of workers had very little clues that using computers and laptops, and having Iphone are must have items in most occupations and in school.

Without the Internet the children can't turn in theirs homework to the teachers or do research for school projects.

The workers can give advices to the friends but it's up to the friends to decide what is best for them and their children future.

Take the good advices to heart but throw away the bad advices in the garbages. Be in tune with God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit leading and guidance.

So God it pro internet and computers? Good to know that. Bet he wishes he'd thought of that when he was laboring over putting the 10 commandments on to a stone tablet. Today's tablets are so much more user friendly...

[nathan2]

Sept 28, 2022 15:36:43 GMT -5 snow said:

Sept 28, 2022 15:31:17 GMT -5 nathan2 said:

The older generation of workers had very little clues that using computers and laptops, and having Iphone are must have items in most occupations and in school.

Without the Internet the children can't turn in theirs homework to the teachers or do research for school projects.

The workers can give advices to the friends but it's up to the friends to decide what is best for them and their children future.

Take the good advices to heart but throw away the bad advices in the garbages. Be in tune with God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit leading and guidance.

So, God is pro internet and computers? Good to know that. *€,0 .iBet he wishes he'd thought of that when he was laboring over putting the 10 commandments on to a stone tablet. Today's tablets are so much more user friendly...

** I post a post/message on TMB and it can reach around the globe and people can read in a few seconds. It's travel much faster than the workers method of preaching come and see.

Internet is one of the most powerful tools to use and share the gospel message with people. They can read at home at their own pace and without pressures. If they want to hear more, then we send the workers to them.

Sometimes people are too shy to attend the workers gospel meetings and they don't know anything about the preachers background and so on.

I had good results with my 2x2 message board, I told my customers about it and I had over 100,000 hits.

They asked which church I attend and I told them I had been a minister but now I teach on line. I am in contacts with 1000s of people and teachings millions of people now than when I was a full time preacher.

I had very little contact with public, and people were afraid in talking to us. Most of my preaching and teachings were to the friends in the small fields about 50 to 100 friends.

Now, I have contacts with the exes, 2x2s friends, workers around the world and my message and teachings can reach to many places, countries and people around the world.

[chuck]

Sept 28, 2022 8:45:12 GMT -5 nathan said:

Sept 28, 2022 5:05:14 GMT -5 chuck said:

They told me from the platform that the internet was basically evil, so one has to assume workers using the Internet are evil......they set the standard not me...

The older generation of workers preached Internet was evil back in 1990s when I was in the work. The younger generation and the current older generation of workers are NO longer said the Internet is evil because most of them use computers, laptops, these days to communicate, keep records for workers lists on disks, and so on.

The ever changing gospel of the 2x2's.........

[verna]

Sept 28, 2022 16:24:44 GMT -5 nathan2 said:

Sept 28, 2022 15:36:43 GMT -5 snow said:

So God it pro internet and computers? Good to know that. Bet he wishes he'd thought of that when he was laboring over putting the 10 commandments on to a stone tablet. Today's tablets are so much more user friendly...

** I post a post/message on TMB and it can reach around the globe and people can read in a few seconds. It's travel much faster than the workers method of preaching come and see.

Internet is one of the most powerful tools to use and share the gospel message with people. They can read at home at their own pace and without pressures. If they want to hear more, then we send the workers to them.

Sometimes people are too shy to attend the workers gospel meetings and they don't know anything about the preachers background and so on.

I had good results with my 2x2 message board, I told my customers about it and I had over 100,000 hits.

They asked which church I attend and I told them I had been a minister but now I teach on line. I am in contacts with 1000s of people and teachings millions of people now than when I was a full time preacher.

I had very little contact with public, and people were afraid in talking to us. Most of my preaching and teachings were to the friends.

Now, I have contacts with the exes, 2x2s friends, workers around the world and my message and teachings can reach to many places, countries and people around the world.

Man - somebody should have told the workers how many people they could reach via television!!! I was pretty sure they would have been able to figure that out but I guess they were too busy proclaiming it evil. Geez Louise Nathan. Seriously?

[help]

Sept 28, 2022 16:24:44 GMT -5 nathan2 said:

Sept 28, 2022 15:36:43 GMT -5 snow said:

So God it pro internet and computers? Good to know that. Bet he wishes he'd thought of that when he was laboring over putting the 10 commandments on to a stone tablet. Today's tablets are so much more user friendly...

** I post a post/message on TMB and it can reach around the globe and people can read in a few seconds. It's travel much faster than the workers method of preaching come and see.

Internet is one of the most powerful tools to use and share the gospel message with people. They can read at home at their own pace and without pressures. If they want to hear more, then we send the workers to them.

Sometimes people are too shy to attend the workers gospel meetings and they don't know anything about the preachers background and so on.

I had good results with my 2x2 message board, I told my customers about it and I had over 100,000 hits.

They asked which church I attend and I told them I had been a minister but now I teach on line. I am in contacts with 1000s of people and teachings millions of people now than when I was a full time preacher.

I had very little contact with public, and people were afraid in talking to us. Most of my preaching and teachings were to the friends.

Now, I have contacts with the exes, 2x2s friends, workers around the world and my message and teachings can reach to many places, countries and people around the world.

That is why you need to take great care in what you teach, not give out false information.

Can you profess online and become a closet 2x2?. Guess getting baptised online would be a problem

[nathan2]

Sept 28, 2022 17:25:10 GMT -5 verna said:

Sept 28, 2022 16:24:44 GMT -5 nathan2 said:

** I post a post/message on TMB and it can reach around the globe and people can read in a few seconds. It's travel much faster than the workers method of preaching come and see.

Internet is one of the most powerful tools to use and share the gospel message with people. They can read at home at their own pace and without pressures. If they want to hear more, then we send the workers to them.

Sometimes people are too shy to attend the workers gospel meetings and they don't know anything about the preachers background and so on.

I had good results with my 2x2 message board, I told my customers about it and I had over 100,000 hits.

They asked which church I attend and I told them I had been a minister but now I teach on line. I am in contacts with 1000s of people and teachings millions of people now than when I was a full time preacher.

I had very little contact with public, and people were afraid in talking to us. Most of my preaching and teachings were to the friends.

Now, I have contacts with the exes, 2x2s friends, workers around the world and my message and teachings can reach to many places, countries and people around the world.

Man - somebody should have told the workers how many people they could reach via television!!! I was pretty sure they would have been able to figure that out but I guess they were too busy proclaiming it evil. Geez Louise Nathan. Seriously?

** One of the overseers in Oregon around 1970s wanted to use radios as another method to reach the millions of people with the gospel.

Well, that didn't go too well with most of the workers so, it didn't happen. In my book that overseer had a good vision of finding various way to reach the mmillions to hear and know the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

Leo Stancliff, had Bible studies 3 days a week 3 hours each time from 12PM-3PM for the college students and faculties on the University campus lawn from 1978-81.

12 of the students professed but only half has continued on. I went in the work in Oregon, another sister started in work in Calf. 3 had offered for the work but they didn't pan out.

Now, we have two children from those students are workers in Calf. Staff.

I am so glad that Leo Stancliff and his co-workers tried various methods in reaching and findings lost sheep, lost coins in the world.

When I was in the work, two of my older co-workers had Bible studies at the colleges. We tried various ways to share the gospel with people NOT just having the two gospel meetings a week.

Internet/TMB is my cup of tea! Is my calling to reach the mmillions with the message of Christ.

[openingact34]

Sept 28, 2022 13:25:49 GMT -5 snow said:

Sept 28, 2022 10:53:19 GMT -5 verna said:

I find it kind of sad that as soon as something seems to be working for “us” it is no longer evil. Does this not raise some suspicions?

Exactly. Religions are a total farce. History has shown so many things that became inconvenient or became considered immoral so they came up with a justification for no longer abiding by them. Not that I have a problem with them not selling their daughters anymore. I just wish that they would also realize that attacking the LGBTQ community was wrong also. It will come and is already being seen in some of the more Christian branches of Christianity. Probably never for the Westboro Baptist church though.

There is a historical pattern though.
It's a cycle, lasting progress is not possible.
Eventually, they realize that they are not following the Bible, and there is a big "revival" and everybody starts all over again taking the Bible seriously like its 90AD.

Even five thousand years from now and a bunch of cycles in the future, Christians on an intergalactic spaceship will probably still be holding revival meetings and getting riled up to throw their gay crewmates out the airlock.

[nathan2]

Sept 28, 2022 17:47:30 GMT -5 help said:

Sept 28, 2022 16:24:44 GMT -5 nathan2 said:

** I post a post/message on TMB and it can reach around the globe and people can read in a few seconds. It's travel much faster than the workers method of preaching come and see.

Internet is one of the most powerful tools to use and share the gospel message with people. They can read at home at their own pace and without pressures. If they want to hear more, then we send the workers to them.

Sometimes people are too shy to attend the workers gospel meetings and they don't know anything about the preachers background and so on.

I had good results with my 2x2 message board, I told my customers about it and I had over 100,000 hits.

They asked which church I attend and I told them I had been a minister but now I teach on line. I am in contacts with 1000s of people and teachings millions of people now than when I was a full time preacher.

I had very little contact with public, and people were afraid in talking to us. Most of my preaching and teachings were to the friends.

Now, I have contacts with the exes, 2x2s friends, workers around the world and my message and teachings can reach to many places, countries and people around the world.

That is why you need to take great care in what you teach, not give out false information.

Can you profess online and become a closet 2x2?. Guess getting baptised online would be a problem

** Yes, I am aware of teach/telling the truth according to Christ Jesus New Testament teachings. I do a very careful study and research on the subject I post on line so, I don't lead people to a dead end road or promoting false doctrines.

I am just like Paul, I preach/teach the gospel message of Salvation Jesus Saves and I will guide them to the workers and let them baptized the converts/believers.

[verna]

Sept 28, 2022 18:01:43 GMT -5 nathan2 said:

Sept 28, 2022 17:25:10 GMT -5 verna said:

Man - somebody should have told the workers how many people they could reach via television!!! I was pretty sure they would have been able to figure that out but I guess they were too busy proclaiming it evil. Geez Louise Nathan. Seriously?

** One of the overseers in Oregon around 1970s wanted to use radios as another method to reach the millions of people with the gospel.

Well, that didn't go too well with most of the workers so, it didn't happen. In my book that overseer had a good vision of finding various way to reach the mmillions to hear and know the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

Leo Stancliff, had Bible studies 3 days a week 3 hours each time from 12PM-3PM for the college students and faculties on the University campus lawn from 1978-81.

12 of the students professed but only half has continued on. I went in the work in Oregon, another sister started in work in Calf. 3 had offered for the work but they didn't pan out.

Now, we have two children from those students are workers in Calf. Staff.

I am so glad that Leo Stancliff and his co-workers tried various methods in reaching and findings lost sheep, lost coins in the world.

When I was in the work, two of my older co-workers had Bible studies at the colleges. We tried various ways to share the gospel with people NOT just having the two gospel meetings a week.

Internet/TMB is my cup of tea! Is my calling to reach the mmillions with the message of Christ.

You wrote a book?

[nathan]

Sept 28, 2022 17:09:00 GMT -5 chuck said:

Sept 28, 2022 8:45:12 GMT -5 nathan said:

The older generation of workers preached Internet was evil back in 1990s when I was in the work. The younger generation and the current older generation of workers are NO longer said the Internet is evil because most of them use computers, laptops, these days to communicate, keep records for workers lists on disks, and so on.

The ever changing gospel of the 2x2's.........

The 2x2 workers preaching and the friends teachings the gospel of Jesus Christ SAVES us is still the same todays as in the days of Jesus and apostles. Jesus Christ the same as Yesterday, today and forever. The method of Salvation is still the SAME today, from Faith to Faith or Life begets Life.

I will be back in a few hours.

[nathan]

Sept 28, 2022 19:56:32 GMT -5 verna said:

Sept 28, 2022 18:01:43 GMT -5 nathan2 said:

** One of the overseers in Oregon around 1970s wanted to use radios as another method to reach the millions of people with the gospel.

Well, that didn't go too well with most of the workers so, it didn't happen. In my book that overseer had a good vision of finding various way to reach the mmillions to hear and know the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

Leo Stancliff, had Bible studies 3 days a week 3 hours each time from 12PM-3PM for the college students and faculties on the University campus lawn from 1978-81.

12 of the students professed but only half has continued on. I went in the work in Oregon, another sister started in work in Calf. 3 had offered for the work but they didn't pan out.

Now, we have two children from those students are workers in Calf. Staff.

I am so glad that Leo Stancliff and his co-workers tried various methods in reaching and findings lost sheep, lost coins in the world.

When I was in the work, two of my older co-workers had Bible studies at the colleges. We tried various ways to share the gospel with people NOT just having the two gospel meetings a week.

Internet/TMB is my cup of tea! Is my calling to reach the mmillions with the message of Christ.

You wrote a book?

What are you talking about? Who wrote which book? 

[verna]

Sept 28, 2022 20:30:22 GMT -5 nathan said:

Sept 28, 2022 19:56:32 GMT -5 verna said:

You wrote a book?

What are you talking about? Who wrote which book? 

‘In my book that overseer had a good vision of finding various way to reach the mmillions to hear and know the true gospel of Jesus Christ’ is what you wrote.

I guess you likely meant “in my opinion”. I don’t generally read your posts very thoroughly. I thought you were referring to your book.

[Roselyn T]

Sept 28, 2022 20:47:18 GMT -5 verna said:

Sept 28, 2022 20:30:22 GMT -5 nathan said:

What are you talking about? Who wrote which book? 

‘In my book that overseer had a good vision of finding various way to reach the mmillions to hear and know the true gospel of Jesus Christ’ is what you wrote.

I guess you likely meant “in my opinion”. I don’t generally read your posts very thoroughly. I thought you were referring to your book.

verna, imagine the Workers response to a book written by nathan !!

[verna]

Sept 28, 2022 21:11:32 GMT -5 Roselyn T said:

Sept 28, 2022 20:47:18 GMT -5 verna said:

‘In my book that overseer had a good vision of finding various way to reach the mmillions to hear and know the true gospel of Jesus Christ’ is what you wrote.

I guess you likely meant “in my opinion”. I don’t generally read your posts very thoroughly. I thought you were referring to your book.

verna, imagine the Workers response to a book written by nathan !!

Who knows? I don’t see any indication that they are too bothered by his internet work.

[nathan2]

Sept 28, 2022 21:42:43 GMT -5 verna said:

Sept 28, 2022 21:11:32 GMT -5 Roselyn T said:

verna, imagine the Workers response to a book written by nathan !!

Who knows? I don’t see any indication that they are too bothered by his internet work.

FYI, my first year and 3rd year companion in Oregon KNOW about my work on the Internet.

A few years back my 3rd year older companion sent me an email that my first year companion wants my email because while he was on conventions rounds in South America an English older sister who labored in Europe asked him if he knew a person name Nathan B? And he told yes, he was my companion.


She began to tell him 5 people are attending her gospel meetings through reading my website. He sent me her email and I wrote to her.

The friends in Oregon told the older sister in my field awhile Bach about my activities on TMB and how they appreciate my spirit.

The sister worker labored on Guam so, she had heard about me and my testimony. We talked about Cherie K. TTT site.

Many workers know about my activities on the Internet and partipation on TMB over 20 years. The native Vietnamese workers and the friends know about my work on the Internet.

I have met many friends around the world through the Internet/TMB.

[nathan2]

Sept 28, 2022 20:47:18 GMT -5 verna said:

Sept 28, 2022 20:30:22 GMT -5 nathan said:

What are you talking about? Who wrote which book? 

‘In my book that overseer had a good vision of finding various way to reach the mmillions to hear and know the true gospel of Jesus Christ’ is what you wrote.

I guess you likely meant “in my opinion”. I don’t generally read your posts very thoroughly. I thought you were referring to your book.

** Yes, I should have written in my opinion. I gave my customers at work similar to a book for them to read.

[verna]

Sept 28, 2022 22:33:27 GMT -5 nathan2 said:

Sept 28, 2022 21:42:43 GMT -5 verna said:

Who knows? I don’t see any indication that they are too bothered by his internet work.

FYI, my first year and 3rd year companion in Oregon KNOW about my work on the Internet.

A few years back my 3rd year older companion sent me an email that my first year companion wants my email because while he was on conventions rounds in South America an English older sister who labored in Europe asked him if he knew a person name Nathan B? And he told yes, he was my companion.


She began to tell him 5 people are attending her gospel meetings through reading my website. He sent me her email and I wrote to her.

The friends in Oregon told the older sister in my field awhile Bach about my activities on TMB and how they appreciate my spirit.

The sister worker labored on Guam so, she had heard about me and my testimony. We talked about Cherie K. TTT site.

Many workers know about my activities on the Internet and partipation on TMB over 20 years. The native Vietnamese workers and the friends know about my work on the Internet.

I have met many friends around the world through the Internet/TMB.

Like I said, they don’t seem very bothered by your internet work. But they also don’t seem bothered by the fact that they have preached lies about the origin of their faith, or that people have been damaged by the lies, so why should I be surprised. not much accountability.