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Post by nathan2 on Feb 6, 2024 9:40:00 GMT -5
Sorry, guy… I did my home work for 15 years! As I said I went through almost everything she posted on line, and I found the missing pieces. We have agree to disagree. I don’t want to shared what I have found on here again! It’s in my files. You are entitled to believe whatever you want and I will believe what I have learned. You happy and I am happy, let us leave it at that for now. Well buddy, you didn't do your homework accurately enough! The Irish records indicate that Wm Irvine's first converts to his new church (and you're correct, the Faith Mission wasn't a church, per se) were in 1897. It wasn't exactly the Friends & Workers, because it seems they were essentially all 'Workers'. Friends came along, gradually. I do recall that the Faith Mission lists took a while (couple of years?) to catch up with the fact that Irvine had gone rogue. It's easy to check. I never heard that he was still taking their funds for his independent missionary work, however. Pretty low act. I think Cooney bankrolled him, after a time? Nathan to fixit: Did you know God sent His angels from the Bright and morning Star/Venus planet to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah with the laser weapons from their space ships? That is why they call flying chariots of fire. And I'll tell you something else I don't believe. That God and his angels use laser weapons and buzz around in space ships. The whole idea is bonkers, totally lacking credibility and completely off the planet! Just remember, TMB is not a sci-fi board  Goodnight. You need to go back and read, study again your 2x2 church history more carefully. The Faith Mission had workers/preachers and the friends! The friends support their ministers and provide homes for the preachers to stay over nights! NOT ALL can be preachers then who are going to provides homes for their week days Bible studies? And homes for their Prayer Union meetings? William Irvine and his 2x2 converts KNEW all about this! NOT ALL of 2x2s can be Itinerant workers because who are going to meet their needs, provide foods to eat, homes to stay over nights, and money for their missions? There had to be TWO callings! The workers to leave All of their possession behind seeking first the kingdom of God then, theirs converts have jobs to care for their families, making provisions for those in the ministry with foods, homes to stay over nights, open their homes for Sunday morning for Christ’s Passover/Bread and wine in remembrance of Jesus life, sacrifice death on Calvary for our sins, where the believers come to worship the Triune God. By the way, you don’t know what you are talking about NOT believing in science fiction and this board isn’t sci-go board! You are Sci-fiction believers yourself and you don’t even know or understand that? You believe a man and woman made from the dust of the ground? The talking serpent in the Garden to deceive Eve and Adam, Why? Wouldn’t they know something is Weird here! How can you communicate with a serpent? When did the Serpent can speak a human language? And how about a world wide flood? Where did all the water come from to covered the earth highest Mountain? Are you serious. How about the giants living in the promised land, the children of Israel said they were like grasshoppers compare to the giants. WHAT? 30 feet humans on earth? How about a virgin birth back in those days, to be pregnant with child a woman had to have sexual intercourse with a man! Mary claimed the child was begotten by God. Are you Crazy? Jesus walked on water, turn water into wine, heal the blinds and lepers, feed 8000 people with a few bread and fish, raised the dead. He claimed to come back to life after 3 days, his soul went to hades, then God raised him from the dead and he went back to heaven. Where is heaven any way. These are only a few Sci-Fi stories are records in the Bible. You say you don’t believe in Sci-Fi? But your faith based a lot on sci-fiction stories according to non-believers on TMB. They SAY you are crazy for believing all of the Sci-fiction stories are written in the Bible that you believe are TRUE.  . You believe in Sci-if stories from the Bible the same as me believing in UFOs, and ETs so, please don’t dislike and shoot the messenger. |
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Post by snow on Feb 7, 2024 15:21:25 GMT -5
So bottom line. William Irvine was a griffter that started the 2x2's church.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 7, 2024 17:19:56 GMT -5
So bottom line. William Irvine was a griffter that started the 2x2's church. As is usual with scams all one has to do is follow the money. It leads back to Irvine who was quick to recognise a good rort. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 8, 2024 19:18:24 GMT -5
Leo said the blood of Jesus is the ministry and meeting in the home. No, the blood of Jesus is Jesus death on the Cross. What Leo said is the opposite to what you have been saying to Maryhigs. To Christians Jesus saves, not men. Fringe benefit means and extra, something on the edge, not the main part. That is NOT what I heard Leo preached at all, sound so foreign to me. I would love to read his whole sermon so, we don’t take things out of context. I heard him preach that MANY times. |
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 8, 2024 20:30:19 GMT -5
That is NOT what I heard Leo preached at all, sound so foreign to me. I would love to read his whole sermon so, we don’t take things out of context. I heard him preach that MANY times. Find me the whole sermon, please. NOT Just a few sentences of Leo 45 minutes sermon. Let me read it and give you my opinion. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 10, 2024 18:43:01 GMT -5
I heard him preach that MANY times. Find me the whole sermon, please. NOT Just a few sentences of Leo 45 minutes sermon. Let me read it and give you my opinion. No. You're the one who recycles workers' sermons, not me. |
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 10, 2024 19:09:24 GMT -5
Find me the whole sermon, please. NOT Just a few sentences of Leo 45 minutes sermon. Let me read it and give you my opinion. No. You're the one who recycles workers' sermons, not me. What you are saying you don’t have Leo’s 45 min. sermon, which somebody took two sentences from it and people like you jumped all over him for it. That is unreasonable and unfair to jump to their own conclusion wouldn’t you say? Would you teach your students to jump to the conclusion without reading the rest of the sermon, Bob? |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 10, 2024 19:17:44 GMT -5
No. You're the one who recycles workers' sermons, not me. What you are saying you don’t have Leo’s 45 min. sermon, which somebody took two sentences from it and people like you jumped all over him for it. That is unreasonable and unfair to jump to their own conclusion wouldn’t you say? Would you teach your students to jump to the conclusion without reading the rest of the sermon, Bob? Just because you tried to publish one of Willis Propp's sermons as your own doesn't mean I'm going to do the same with Leo's sermons. And if I remember correctly, you made the same error in your version of the sermon as Willis did in his original sermon. haha |
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 10, 2024 19:37:40 GMT -5
What you are saying you don’t have Leo’s 45 min. sermon, which somebody took two sentences from it and people like you jumped all over him for it. That is unreasonable and unfair to jump to their own conclusion wouldn’t you say? Would you teach your students to jump to the conclusion without reading the rest of the sermon, Bob? Just because you tried to publish one of Willis Propp's sermons as your own doesn't mean I'm going to do the same with Leo's sermons. And if I remember correctly, you made the same error in your version of the sermon as Willis did in his original sermon. haha Come on, Bob… You are fibbing again! How do you think I could fool people with that perfect English positions prayer article, When English is my second language. There are many workers notes/sermons were passing around in the past, sometimes we don’t know which workers wrote it. When I sent different articles to people, they assume I wrote it but they should know better. Let me ask you this did I say or sign my name as the author of the Willis Propp’s prayers article, Bob? Don’t lie now, Bob. Why, don’t you post of any sermons which I sent out it has my name as the author to back up your accusation, please. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 10, 2024 19:59:04 GMT -5
Just because you tried to publish one of Willis Propp's sermons as your own doesn't mean I'm going to do the same with Leo's sermons. And if I remember correctly, you made the same error in your version of the sermon as Willis did in his original sermon. haha Come on, Bob… You are fibbing again! How do you think I could fool people with that perfect English positions prayer article, When English is my second language. There are many workers notes/sermons are passing around in the past, sometimes we don’t know which workers wrote it. When I sent the article to people, they assume I wrote it but they should know better. Let me ask you this did I say or sign my name as the author of the Willis Propp’s article, Bob? Don’t lie now, Bob. Of course you did. You asked me and another person to correct your grammar for you, and it turned out to be an impossible task. Anyway, you didn't know that I had already had got the original version from another worker and it had the clue in it that I recognized from your attempt. I told you, you had taken Willis' sermon without crediting him, and you told me I was lying and you hung up the phone on me. You were wanting me to publish it with your name on it. I'm not as stupid or forgetful as you take me for. |
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 10, 2024 20:28:41 GMT -5
Come on, Bob… You are fibbing again! How do you think I could fool people with that perfect English positions prayer article, When English is my second language. There are many workers notes/sermons are passing around in the past, sometimes we don’t know which workers wrote it. When I sent the article to people, they assume I wrote it but they should know better. Let me ask you this did I say or sign my name as the author of the Willis Propp’s article, Bob? Don’t lie now, Bob. Of course you did. You asked me and another person to correct your grammar for you, and it turned out to be an impossible task. Anyway, you didn't know that I had already had got the original version from another worker and it had the clue in it that I recognized from your attempt. I told you, you had taken Willis' sermon without crediting him, and you told me I was lying and you hung up the phone on me. You were wanting me to publish it with your name on it. I'm not as stupid or forgetful as you take me for. Bob, Bob, why would I ask you to correct Willis Propp’s good and perfect grammar in the article on Prayer? Why would I do that? Wouldn’t people know like you did, Bob? Willis P. sermon on prayers were making the rounds, many friends and workers have read it, why? Would I be that STUPID, to put my name as the author, Bob? Your side of the story doesn’t add up. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 10, 2024 21:03:55 GMT -5
Of course you did. You asked me and another person to correct your grammar for you, and it turned out to be an impossible task. Anyway, you didn't know that I had already had got the original version from another worker and it had the clue in it that I recognized from your attempt. I told you, you had taken Willis' sermon without crediting him, and you told me I was lying and you hung up the phone on me. You were wanting me to publish it with your name on it. I'm not as stupid or forgetful as you take me for. Bob, Bob, why would I ask you to correct Willis Propp’s good and perfect grammar in the article on Prayer? Why would I do that? Wouldn’t people know like you did, Bob? Willis P. sermon on prayers were making the rounds, many friends and workers have read it, why? Would I be that STUPID, to put my name as the author, Bob? Your side of the story doesn’t add up. That's not the only time you have plagarised the work of others. |
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 10, 2024 21:09:09 GMT -5
Bob, Bob, why would I ask you to correct Willis Propp’s good and perfect grammar in the article on Prayer? Why would I do that? Wouldn’t people know like you did, Bob? Willis P. sermon on prayers were making the rounds, many friends and workers have read it, why? Would I be that STUPID, to put my name as the author, Bob? Your side of the story doesn’t add up. That's not the only time you have plagarised the work of others. Now, I know how to copy and paste the link/websites. New Technology, Very Simple! No more accusation from the enemies. Now, you guys and gals are tired and complaint too much of my copy and paste and ban me from doing it with my Nathan account locked up.  I Can’t please every body I guess. What are a bunch of losers! You people are. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 12, 2024 21:45:55 GMT -5
Of course you did. You asked me and another person to correct your grammar for you, and it turned out to be an impossible task. Anyway, you didn't know that I had already had got the original version from another worker and it had the clue in it that I recognized from your attempt. I told you, you had taken Willis' sermon without crediting him, and you told me I was lying and you hung up the phone on me. You were wanting me to publish it with your name on it. I'm not as stupid or forgetful as you take me for. Bob, Bob, why would I ask you to correct Willis Propp’s good and perfect grammar in the article on Prayer? Why would I do that? Wouldn’t people know like you did, Bob? Willis P. sermon on prayers were making the rounds, many friends and workers have read it, why? Would I be that STUPID, to put my name as the author, Bob? Your side of the story doesn’t add up. The reason you asked us to edit it was because the only way we could determine what you were trying to say was to consult Willis' original sermon copy. You tried to reword it, but your English was virtually impossible to read. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 12, 2024 21:47:50 GMT -5
That's not the only time you have plagarised the work of others. Now, I know how to copy and paste the link/websites. New Technology, Very Simple! No more accusation from the enemies. Now, you guys and gals are tired and complaint too much of my copy and paste and ban me from doing it with my Nathan account locked up. I Can’t please every body I guess. What are a bunch of losers! You people are. Copy and paste is fraud. |
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 12, 2024 23:42:54 GMT -5
Now, I know how to copy and paste the link/websites. New Technology, Very Simple! No more accusation from the enemies. Now, you guys and gals are tired and complaint too much of my copy and paste and ban me from doing it with my Nathan account locked up. I Can’t please every body I guess. What are a bunch of losers! You people are. Copy and paste is fraud. I post the link and the website where I got it from. There is no fraud in that is there? |
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. You believe in Sci-if stories from the Bible the same as me believing in UFOs, and ETs so, please don’t dislike and shoot the messenger.
I Can’t please every body I guess.