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Post by openingact34 on Sept 19, 2022 12:18:58 GMT -5
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 19, 2022 12:19:24 GMT -5
Podcast: Fair Bit Going On Episode Title: I Grew Up In A Cult, Feat Nicole Rose Interviewee: Nicole Rose Nationality: New Zealand (South Island) Status: Bitter Ex Well this is embarrassing! This young woman reports on growing up professing. Despite the claims of fixit and others from New Zealand, and it turns out that the Truth is just as legalistic and as much of an abusive guilt trip as growing up anywhere else. I'm VERY interested in how guest8 will try to tear down and discredit this girl. pod.link/1531236855/episode/eb87772748d20c14b6aebf2873b18a4b |
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 19, 2022 12:19:58 GMT -5
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 19, 2022 12:20:31 GMT -5
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 19, 2022 12:21:05 GMT -5
Podcast: Outgrowing The Truth Episode Title: What Even Is the Truth? Presenter: D. Lee Nationality: USA (Florida) Status: Bitter Ex This a pretty brief 12 minute testimony from a 30 year old woman who turned against God's True Way when she discovered Cherie's TTT website as a teenager. Despite never even professing, she says that she is still in therapy because of the Truth. It sounds like she plans to add more episodes eventually. pod.link/1526722294/episode/01d87013c6400b77f05019cc56a95de4 |
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 19, 2022 12:21:57 GMT -5
Podcast: Ignorance is #Blessed Episode Title: The Friends Go Marching Two by Two with Meagan Grainger Interviewee: Meagan Grainger Nationality: USA (Kansas) Status: Bitter Ex WOW. Meagan left God's true way to pursue fame in Hollywood. If you are a worker looking for a warning story to preach before testing the meeting, this is DEFINIITELY the vulgar podcast you want to listen to. Meagan quite proudly shares how she had a d*ck appointment just prior to recording this episode. pod.link/1169111367/episode/b99c96a4210969f3fb3902378aecdd28 |
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 19, 2022 12:23:00 GMT -5
Podcast: <multiple different podcasts> Interviewee: Laura McConnell Conti Nationality: Australia (New South Wales) Status: VERY Bitter Ex Laura is a very active ex-2x2 who appears on numerous podcasts, youtube channels, newspaper articles, etc. If you are professing and watch the videos, you can see the problems. Short dyed hair, lots of makeup, big jewelry, trousers....you name the wickedness, she partakes in it. TONS of professing people are commenting on her youtube interview in particular and saying that it is all full of lies. Seems like they are coordinating on the response? #FeministFridays Podcast: pod.link/1503875333/episode/2bc5c73637bda9e579e8aad1ec27192dFrom the TONTS. Podcast: pod.link/1571257105/episode/fdca6484b2455bace91b0c7e5dc657b6Talk Beliefs Youtube Channel Episode: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTua-2OoIcM |
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 19, 2022 12:23:57 GMT -5
Podcast: Toxic Positivity Episode Title: Mystery Woman Interviewee: Anonymous Mystery Woman Nationality: USA (based on accent and content) Status: Bitter Ex This is a very short discussion on a podcast where the host focuses on the cult-like tactics of mutli-level-marketing (MLM) "pyramid" scams. The woman being interviewed left the Jesus way and then got sucked into the world of MLMs. pod.link/1511772332/episode/fdf527e22ac2b047a9029fcfbeedcfc6 |
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 19, 2022 12:24:28 GMT -5
Podcast: Gus Astacio Healing X Outreach HXO Interviewee: Kylee Hickok Nationality: USA (Alaska) Status: Bitter Ex This is an approximately 10-year-old interview that was just uploaded recently. The interviewer is an ex-JW and Kylee was an outsider who professed for a boy before losing out. Awful audio quality and the interviewer is very tedious. Be warned. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tT3b6qYQf8 |
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 19, 2022 12:25:00 GMT -5
Podcast: My Spiritual Life Interviewee: Jessica Baker Nationality: Canada (Alberta) Status: Bitter Ex An ex-Mormon interviews an ex-2x2. During the first interview, Jessica had just VERY recently left, and a follow-up interview was recorded two years later. 2020 Interview: www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SWs6T0YzRo2022 Follow-up: www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO-ntXF6gcw |
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 19, 2022 12:25:49 GMT -5
Podcast: Faith Works Presenter: Lanny Nationality: ? Status: Bitter Ex This one is kind of an anomaly, made by an older woman who grew up professing during the 1960s. Most of the other podcasts/videos are all of millennials. Its an rapid and non-stop, rambling, hour-long soliloquy. www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_dUxoS2SsU |
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 19, 2022 12:26:35 GMT -5
Podcast: Let's Talk About Sects Podcast Episode Title: Two by Twos / The Truth Presenter: Sarah Steel Interviewees: Laura McConnell Conti (ex-2x2), Chris Johnston (worldly journalist) This is a lengthy, professional, more curated type of presentation by author Sarah Steel. Within the narrative, she includes discussion from Laura as well as journalist Chris Johnston. It covers a lot of the history of the Truth and current events, rather than just Laura's story. Chris talks about how the Friends and Workers are trying to hide and protect God's money from any CSA national redress program or lawsuits. pod.link/1286328757/episode/d0e9abe32f841afcab8f8720f94f9c7a |
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 19, 2022 21:14:31 GMT -5
Podcasts: Cultist Diaries Episode Title: The Nameless Cult Presenter: Anonymous Nationality: ? Status: Bitter Ex I finally found one by a male! This is a very young man who lost out during the 2020 quarantines while he was still in high school. He seems very sensitive and twisted up by the Truth. It isn't as widely available on all platforms. open.spotify.com/episode/3onowxKvZ3VZvyl2TdhYLe |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 23:47:50 GMT -5
Podcast: Ignorance is #Blessed Interviewee: Meagan Grainger Nationality: USA (Kansas) Status: Bitter Ex WOW. Meagan left God's true way to pursue fame in Hollywood. If you are a worker looking for a warning story to preach before testing the meeting, this is DEFINIITELY the vulgar podcast you want to listen to. Meagan quite proudly shares how she had a d*ck appointment just prior to recording this episode. pod.link/1169111367/episode/b99c96a4210969f3fb3902378aecdd28She's got a couple of comedy bits- one joke in particular is gold: (To paraphrase) "I went to a sex therapist and they asked if I'm crazy in bed. I was like...'well, all my best 9/11 conspiracy theories come to me when I'm laying awake in bed...!'" |
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 20, 2022 0:42:04 GMT -5
Podcast: Ignorance is #Blessed Interviewee: Meagan Grainger Nationality: USA (Kansas) Status: Bitter Ex WOW. Meagan left God's true way to pursue fame in Hollywood. If you are a worker looking for a warning story to preach before testing the meeting, this is DEFINIITELY the vulgar podcast you want to listen to. Meagan quite proudly shares how she had a d*ck appointment just prior to recording this episode. pod.link/1169111367/episode/b99c96a4210969f3fb3902378aecdd28She's got a couple of comedy bits- one joke in particular is gold: (To paraphrase) "I went to a sex therapist and they asked if I'm crazy in bed. I was like...'well, all my best 9/11 conspiracy theories come to me when I'm laying awake in bed...!'" I think that takes more than sex therapy.  |
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Post by fixit on Sept 20, 2022 5:10:46 GMT -5
Podcast: Fair Bit Going On Interviewee: Nicole Rose Nationality: New Zealand (South Island) Status: Bitter Ex Well this is embarrassing! This young woman reports on growing up professing. Despite the claims of fixit and others from New Zealand, and it turns out that the Truth is just as legalistic and as much of an abusive guilt trip as growing up anywhere else. I'm VERY interested in how guest8 will try to tear down and discredit this girl. pod.link/1531236855/episode/eb87772748d20c14b6aebf2873b18a4bNicole seems to speak mostly of fear and conformity. It's sad that her experience in the church had no more to offer than that. Is meeting with 80 year olds so terrible? There was a good range of ages and definitely things to appreciate in the people she met with on Sunday mornings. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 14:28:11 GMT -5
Podcast: Fair Bit Going On Interviewee: Nicole Rose Nationality: New Zealand (South Island) Status: Bitter Ex Well this is embarrassing! This young woman reports on growing up professing. Despite the claims of fixit and others from New Zealand, and it turns out that the Truth is just as legalistic and as much of an abusive guilt trip as growing up anywhere else. I'm VERY interested in how guest8 will try to tear down and discredit this girl. pod.link/1531236855/episode/eb87772748d20c14b6aebf2873b18a4bNicole seems to speak mostly of fear and conformity. It's sad that her experience in the church had no more to offer than that. Is meeting with 80 year olds so terrible? There was a good range of ages and definitely things to appreciate in the people she met with on Sunday mornings. That's an area where I (as a token "bitter-ex") will take exception as well. I've heard more than once the criticism of "there were only old people in our meeting". I think a better way to say it would've been "there were not very many young people in our meeting". I can see how growing up in a meeting without young people would be difficult, particularly when other young people in school and elsewhere are to be avoided as "worldlings". However, even as a "bitter ex", I can say that the old folks in my meeting(s) growing up were exceptionally precious to me. I understand their mindsets and the mindset of that generation in the "one true way" were lock-step, but some had hearts of gold which I can only hope to obtain one day. |
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 20, 2022 17:47:54 GMT -5
Podcast: Mass Exodus Episode Title: Anguish, Abuse, and Ankle Length Dresses: Growing Up in a Nameless Cult Interviewee: Kristin Warnaca Nationality: USA (Washington) Status: Bitter Ex This is the best interview yet! Kristin is extraordinarily eloquent and captivating as a speaker. She talks about her wild journey going from the abuse of 2x2-ism to evangelical fundamentalist, to liberal sex coach. She also discusses being sexually abused and groomed by a sister worker starting at age 4, then professing at 8. Very thought provoking. When we see this children professing at 6, 7, 8 years of age, I'm growing to believe it is a screaming warning sign of abuse that extends beyond the normal brainwashing. We need to report these cases. pod.link/1557176155/episode/2deb51b2b109f994ec906471726369ca |
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 20, 2022 20:48:35 GMT -5
Nicole seems to speak mostly of fear and conformity. It's sad that her experience in the church had no more to offer than that. Is meeting with 80 year olds so terrible? There was a good range of ages and definitely things to appreciate in the people she met with on Sunday mornings. That's an area where I (as a token "bitter-ex") will take exception as well. I've heard more than once the criticism of "there were only old people in our meeting". I think a better way to say it would've been "there were not very many young people in our meeting". I can see how growing up in a meeting without young people would be difficult, particularly when other young people in school and elsewhere are to be avoided as "worldlings". However, even as a "bitter ex", I can say that the old folks in my meeting(s) growing up were exceptionally precious to me. I understand their mindsets and the mindset of that generation in the "one true way" were lock-step, but some had hearts of gold which I can only hope to obtain one day. I think I was really fortunate where I grew up. The meeting I grew up in had 8 others within 3 years of my age. In our field there were 9 meetings, and 30-40 kids in that age group. My grandfather once made the statement that there were so many admirable teenagers in our town. Maybe all the parenting required of adults in our meetings made the older folks more in touch with all of the young people. And in a town of 25,000 people it was rare for anyone to be the only 2x2 in the school.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 22:52:18 GMT -5
That's an area where I (as a token "bitter-ex") will take exception as well. I've heard more than once the criticism of "there were only old people in our meeting". I think a better way to say it would've been "there were not very many young people in our meeting". I can see how growing up in a meeting without young people would be difficult, particularly when other young people in school and elsewhere are to be avoided as "worldlings". However, even as a "bitter ex", I can say that the old folks in my meeting(s) growing up were exceptionally precious to me. I understand their mindsets and the mindset of that generation in the "one true way" were lock-step, but some had hearts of gold which I can only hope to obtain one day. I think I was really fortunate where I grew up. The meeting I grew up in had 8 others within 3 years of my age. In our field there were 9 meetings, and 30-40 kids in that age group. My grandfather once made the statement that there were so many admirable teenagers in our town. Maybe all the parenting required of adults in our meetings made the older folks more in touch with all of the young people. And in a town of 25,000 people it was rare for anyone to be the only 2x2 in the school. That would be the exception from what I've experienced and seen. I personally don't mind that there weren't any of the friends kids in my school... imagine leading a double double life! |
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 20, 2022 23:02:40 GMT -5
I think I was really fortunate where I grew up. The meeting I grew up in had 8 others within 3 years of my age. In our field there were 9 meetings, and 30-40 kids in that age group. My grandfather once made the statement that there were so many admirable teenagers in our town. Maybe all the parenting required of adults in our meetings made the older folks more in touch with all of the young people. And in a town of 25,000 people it was rare for anyone to be the only 2x2 in the school. That would be the exception from what I've experienced and seen. I personally don't mind that there weren't any of the friends kids in my school... imagine leading a double double life! Yes, indeed. Once I left high school I quickly learned how many stool pigeons there were in "friendly"places. PS: I think we were exceptional. Some of the professing girls even wore jeans to school with no repercussions. It seemed like the only people we had to worry about were some of the workers.  |
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Post by verna on Sept 21, 2022 11:35:45 GMT -5
Very interesting listening to some of these "testimonies". When I joined these forums almost 20 years ago as a young man, much of the conversation was about how the fellowship wasn't Biblical, the hidden origins and a bit later the sexual immorality. It seemed like a majority of those leaving were focused on doctrine/a desire to follow a more "Biblical" version of the Christian faith or at least that was the case for those that posted online. These forums were very busy, multiple users posting many times in a day, maybe 50-100 active users some days. Step into 2022 and the forums are dead, barely 2 threads with a post "today", the world has also moved on as the "west" continues to lose power and shifts further and further to the left and secularism. Churches are empty/closing and the same trend in the fellowship as meetings and conventions close. It is interesting to observe that most of these podcasts are experiences of younger women and of the three I have listened to so far they seem to be on the "freedom" journey, with what seems like a less structured life eg, exploring their sexuality and as a result moving away from the Christian faith altogether - which is in line with the society of the day. You do You, Love Yourself, Live each day to the Full, No regrets. Although they are "free" to follow the norms of the day, I am not sure that brings satisfaction. It really makes you wonder if we are all just following along with societies norms of the day. Maninthemirror can you please clarify for me what your point is? I don’t quite understand. When I left many moons ago I believe that many thought that I left to enjoy the pleasures of the world but they were wrong. I left because I was severely depressed and could not live any longer in a system that claimed to be The Truth- the true way - yet could not provide me with one ounce of peace and joy. Yup I did go on to enjoy the freedom the “world” allowed me but that was not the reason I left. I have not had a chance to listen to much of these yet but I have heard disillusionment in the stories of others. And yes you are likely right, individuals are often disillusioned by Christianity in it’s totality by experiences in the 2x2 faith. There is less expectation in general society that one be Christian. |
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Post by verna on Sept 21, 2022 14:45:23 GMT -5
Maninthemirror can you please clarify for me what your point is? I don’t quite understand. When I left many moons ago I believe that many thought that I left to enjoy the pleasures of the world but they were wrong. I left because I was severely depressed and could not live any longer in a system that claimed to be The Truth- the true way - yet could not provide me with one ounce of peace and joy. Yup I did go on to enjoy the freedom the “world” allowed me but that was not the reason I left. I have not had a chance to listen to much of these yet but I have heard disillusionment in the stories of others. And yes you are likely right, individuals are often disillusioned by Christianity in it’s totality by experiences in the 2x2 faith. There is less expectation in general society that one be Christian. There is no real point, just an observation/rambling  . I think if you picked any young woman who left a mainstream Christian Church her story would be something similar to these. None of them seem particularly bothered about the teachings (of the three I listened to) but rather that "religion" oppressed them from being the "true me" etc. Thanks. I get your point. If memory of psychology serves, individuation is a very important task in adolesence so if this ability is interfered with it is likely to have serious implications. So that is not surprising. I did note however the last one listed (sorry can’t remember the name) stated that she was alarmed that the 2x2s saw Jesus as human (not part of a trinity of equals) as well as the exclusivity she encountered ( criticism of other Christians) that impacted her decision to leave. I think these would fall under the category of teachings. |
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Post by snow on Sept 21, 2022 16:29:53 GMT -5
Listening to some of these podcasts something came up that made me wonder something. Did everyone that grew up in the F&W's at some point in their life believe that they had a calling to go into the work? I know I considered it and it sounds like a few of these podcasters also thought they did at some point in their life before they left. So I'd be interested in knowing how many of us went through that phase?
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Post by snow on Sept 21, 2022 16:46:36 GMT -5
Podcast: Fair Bit Going On Episode Title: I Grew Up In A Cult, Feat Nicole Rose Interviewee: Nicole Rose Nationality: New Zealand (South Island) Status: Bitter Ex Well this is embarrassing! This young woman reports on growing up professing. Despite the claims of fixit and others from New Zealand, and it turns out that the Truth is just as legalistic and as much of an abusive guilt trip as growing up anywhere else. I'm VERY interested in how guest8 will try to tear down and discredit this girl. pod.link/1531236855/episode/eb87772748d20c14b6aebf2873b18a4bThis one seems to be the one that I relate to the most. Her reluctance to speak about it with her family because she doesn't want to upset their whole life concept. She knows they pray for her to come back because they feel she is going to hell and that being so hard for her. That was me also. I hated that my parents who I loved very much felt so bad about believing that once they died they would never see me again and that I would be tortured for eternity. Their child who they loved. How horrible is that. It's just so wrong what religions do to families with their beliefs that are so horrific. |
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Post by verna on Sept 21, 2022 16:49:32 GMT -5
Listening to some of these podcasts something came up that made me wonder something. Did everyone that grew up in the F&W's at some point in their life believe that they had a calling to go into the work? I know I considered it and it sounds like a few of these podcasters also thought they did at some point in their life before they left. So I'd be interested in knowing how many of us went through that phase? That is not the case as far as I know although it certainly was for me. Is was my what I saw for myself from age 13/14 to 18 when I offered to about 21 when I retracted my offer due to persistent depression. |
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Post by verna on Sept 21, 2022 17:23:26 GMT -5
Podcast: Fair Bit Going On Episode Title: I Grew Up In A Cult, Feat Nicole Rose Interviewee: Nicole Rose Nationality: New Zealand (South Island) Status: Bitter Ex Well this is embarrassing! This young woman reports on growing up professing. Despite the claims of fixit and others from New Zealand, and it turns out that the Truth is just as legalistic and as much of an abusive guilt trip as growing up anywhere else. I'm VERY interested in how guest8 will try to tear down and discredit this girl. pod.link/1531236855/episode/eb87772748d20c14b6aebf2873b18a4bThis one seems to be the one that I relate to the most. Her reluctance to speak about it with her family because she doesn't want to upset their whole life concept. She knows they pray for her to come back because they feel she is going to hell and that being so hard for her. That was me also. I hated that my parents who I loved very much felt so bad about believing that once they died they would never see me again and that I would be tortured for eternity. Their child who they loved. How horrible is that. It's just so wrong what religions do to families with their beliefs that are so horrific. I haven’t listened to that one yet but I sure resonate. One of the greatest sorrows of my life - breaking my dear mama’s heart. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 21, 2022 18:45:05 GMT -5
Listening to some of these podcasts something came up that made me wonder something. Did everyone that grew up in the F&W's at some point in their life believe that they had a calling to go into the work? I know I considered it and it sounds like a few of these podcasters also thought they did at some point in their life before they left. So I'd be interested in knowing how many of us went through that phase? In my later teens it frequently occurred to me that I should maybe go in the work. One thing that bothered me was all the "testimony" of workers who claimed that they had to fight the calling before they actually decided to go in the work. But I really believed that I wasn't fit to be a worker because I could never consent to pushing and enforcing so many of their silly/rigid rules. And frankly, I didn't know of any older brother workers that I would want to live with. Being appointed alternate meeting elder in my late 40's was nightmare enough, so I didn't waste either my or the workers' time with me being in the work. |
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