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Post by rudyw on Feb 1, 2023 23:21:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the reply, Annan. I just don’t see any reason to be close friends with coworkers; especially if I have absolutely nothing in common with them. It’s important to be friendly; but being friendly & being friends are two different things. It’s funny; there are people I work with whoI like them (even people who are morally the polar opposite of me). But, it’s a simple fact that if I were to quit tomorrow, I’d probably never hear from them again (or they from me). So, why worry about befriending people I work with? On the other hand, there are friends from years ago, who I go months or years without seeing or speaking with, and when we finally do meet up again, or call out of the blue, it’s as if it was just yesterday that we last spoke. The difference between coworkers (not all coworkers, but those we don’t relate to) & old friends we don’t speak to regularly is this: common values & a common worldview. I’ve noticed that some on this board think I’m self-righteous for this way of thinking. But, this sort of behavior is NOT just done by friends (2x2s). At my work, the Woke crowd regularly go out after work, have ‘movie night,’ smoke dope together (and other things), throw Halloween parties, etc. & never invite people of other persuasions; not just me & the other 2x2 in our company, but anyone else who professes faith in Christ. I’ve invited some of the Woke to my house for Thanksgiving (because they have no family locally & would be alone) or simply for dinner, & they have never once taken me up on the offer. So, this talk that 2x2s are reclusive & self-righteous & exclusive is BS as far as I’m concerned. The Woke are just as exclusive when it comes to socializing. To each his own. Be friendly, but don’t think it’s necessary to be everyone’s friend. I reckon your Jesus would have been with the "woke" crowd. I seriously doubt that, Curly. |
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Post by rudyw on Feb 1, 2023 23:27:39 GMT -5
I reckon your Jesus would have been with the "woke" crowd. I seriously doubt that, Curly. And honestly, I take offense to him being called ‘my Jesus.’ He’s not ‘my Jesus.’ He’s yours too, whether you realize it or not. Please stop being so snide. People tend to avoid you, or not take you seriously when you belittle people by being snide. Yes, we all know you believe in facts. Good for you! But seriously, can you please stop trolling & just be civil, like a normal person? |
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Post by verna on Feb 1, 2023 23:30:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the reply, Annan. I just don’t see any reason to be close friends with coworkers; especially if I have absolutely nothing in common with them. It’s important to be friendly; but being friendly & being friends are two different things. It’s funny; there are people I work with whoI like them (even people who are morally the polar opposite of me). But, it’s a simple fact that if I were to quit tomorrow, I’d probably never hear from them again (or they from me). So, why worry about befriending people I work with? On the other hand, there are friends from years ago, who I go months or years without seeing or speaking with, and when we finally do meet up again, or call out of the blue, it’s as if it was just yesterday that we last spoke. The difference between coworkers (not all coworkers, but those we don’t relate to) & old friends we don’t speak to regularly is this: common values & a common worldview. I’ve noticed that some on this board think I’m self-righteous for this way of thinking. But, this sort of behavior is NOT just done by friends (2x2s). At my work, the Woke crowd regularly go out after work, have ‘movie night,’ smoke dope together (and other things), throw Halloween parties, etc. & never invite people of other persuasions; not just me & the other 2x2 in our company, but anyone else who professes faith in Christ. I’ve invited some of the Woke to my house for Thanksgiving (because they have no family locally & would be alone) or simply for dinner, & they have never once taken me up on the offer. So, this talk that 2x2s are reclusive & self-righteous & exclusive is BS as far as I’m concerned. The Woke are just as exclusive when it comes to socializing. To each his own. Be friendly, but don’t think it’s necessary to be everyone’s friend. I reckon your Jesus would have been with the "woke" crowd. I find it very interesting that “in my day” it was the partiers and non-partiers who may well have been the religious folk. Now it is Christian conservatives and Woke folk? The woke are now the good time folk? Has the world really changed that much? |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 1, 2023 23:33:42 GMT -5
I seriously doubt that, Curly. And honestly, I take offense to him being called ‘my Jesus.’ He’s not ‘my Jesus.’ He’s yours too, whether you realize it or not. Please stop being so snide. People tend to avoid you, or not take you seriously when you belittle people by being snide. Yes, we all know you believe in facts. Good for you! But seriously, can you please stop trolling & just be civil, like a normal person? Once again. He is not my jesus. He is part of the religion that you believe in. If you take my comments as trolling then that's your problem. It's you that makes comments regarding the myth you believe in. When it is pointed out to you that it is just a myth, you get all defensive. That's usually what happens when someones beliefs are called into question. |
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Post by rudyw on Feb 1, 2023 23:42:30 GMT -5
And honestly, I take offense to him being called ‘my Jesus.’ He’s not ‘my Jesus.’ He’s yours too, whether you realize it or not. Please stop being so snide. People tend to avoid you, or not take you seriously when you belittle people by being snide. Yes, we all know you believe in facts. Good for you! But seriously, can you please stop trolling & just be civil, like a normal person? Once again. He is not my jesus. He is part of the religion that you believe in. If you take my comments as trolling then that's your problem. It's you that makes comments regarding the myth you believe in. When it is pointed out to you that it is just a myth, you get all defensive. That's usually what happens when someones beliefs are called into question. No, Curly, it’s not a defensive maneuver. It’s called courtesy. I don’t go about calling you stupid; I don’t say you’re going to hell; I don’t demene your intelligence. You do all those things to other people. You assume I’m being defensive, & maybe I am. But, not for the reasons you think. I’m not insecure in my faith. But, people who are bullies, by demeaning others simply who disagree with them, are tiresome. By using snide comment, ad nauseum, it implies that you are the one who is insecure. Not me. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 2, 2023 0:06:12 GMT -5
Once again. He is not my jesus. He is part of the religion that you believe in. If you take my comments as trolling then that's your problem. It's you that makes comments regarding the myth you believe in. When it is pointed out to you that it is just a myth, you get all defensive. That's usually what happens when someones beliefs are called into question. No, Curly, it’s not a defensive maneuver. It’s called courtesy. I don’t go about calling you stupid; I don’t say you’re going to hell; I don’t demene your intelligence. You do all those things to other people. You assume I’m being defensive, & maybe I am. But, not for the reasons you think. I’m not insecure in my faith. But, people who are bullies, by demeaning others simply who disagree with them, are tiresome. By using snide comment, ad nauseum, it implies that you are the one who is insecure. Not me. I find it interesting that you are upset that I said your jesus would be with the woke crowd. When I was professing and third generation, it was very clear to me that your jesus did not hang out with the self righteous. His mission was to the exact opposite, the irreligious. By the way, your jesus did not have blue eyes. The American KKK would have dragged him behind a pick up truck. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 2, 2023 2:23:25 GMT -5
You are so much like me, Rudy. I mind my own business and expect you to mind yours. If I’m accused of something, I do my best to back it up to the source. Otherwise keep your mouth shut. I didn’t hang out with anybody I work with even when I was single. I’m lucky enough to work alone these days. I have the whole office to myself. I do stop in and visit with the secretary from time to time to catch up on what goes on in the borough where I work. I only work 4 to 5 hours a week. Thanks for the reply, Annan. I just don’t see any reason to be close friends with coworkers; especially if I have absolutely nothing in common with them. It’s important to be friendly; but being friendly & being friends are two different things. It’s funny; there are people I work with whoI like them (even people who are morally the polar opposite of me). But, it’s a simple fact that if I were to quit tomorrow, I’d probably never hear from them again (or they from me). So, why worry about befriending people I work with? On the other hand, there are friends from years ago, who I go months or years without seeing or speaking with, and when we finally do meet up again, or call out of the blue, it’s as if it was just yesterday that we last spoke. The difference between coworkers (not all coworkers, but those we don’t relate to) & old friends we don’t speak to regularly is this: common values & a common worldview. I’ve noticed that some on this board think I’m self-righteous for this way of thinking. But, this sort of behavior is NOT just done by friends (2x2s). At my work, the Woke crowd regularly go out after work, have ‘movie night,’ smoke dope together (and other things), throw Halloween parties, etc. & never invite people of other persuasions; not just me & the other 2x2 in our company, but anyone else who professes faith in Christ. I’ve invited some of the Woke to my house for Thanksgiving (because they have no family locally & would be alone) or simply for dinner, & they have never once taken me up on the offer. So, this talk that 2x2s are reclusive & self-righteous & exclusive is BS as far as I’m concerned. The Woke are just as exclusive when it comes to socializing. To each his own. Be friendly, but don’t think it’s necessary to be everyone’s friend. You sound a bit better since you explained yourself. But I don't know you well enough to go to your house for dinner. |
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Post by Annan on Feb 2, 2023 7:24:33 GMT -5
You are so much like me, Rudy. I mind my own business and expect you to mind yours. If I’m accused of something, I do my best to back it up to the source. Otherwise keep your mouth shut. I didn’t hang out with anybody I work with even when I was single. I’m lucky enough to work alone these days. I have the whole office to myself. I do stop in and visit with the secretary from time to time to catch up on what goes on in the borough where I work. I only work 4 to 5 hours a week. Thanks for the reply, Annan. I just don’t see any reason to be close friends with coworkers; especially if I have absolutely nothing in common with them. It’s important to be friendly; but being friendly & being friends are two different things. It’s funny; there are people I work with whoI like them (even people who are morally the polar opposite of me). But, it’s a simple fact that if I were to quit tomorrow, I’d probably never hear from them again (or they from me). So, why worry about befriending people I work with? On the other hand, there are friends from years ago, who I go months or years without seeing or speaking with, and when we finally do meet up again, or call out of the blue, it’s as if it was just yesterday that we last spoke. The difference between coworkers (not all coworkers, but those we don’t relate to) & old friends we don’t speak to regularly is this: common values & a common worldview. I’ve noticed that some on this board think I’m self-righteous for this way of thinking. But, this sort of behavior is NOT just done by friends (2x2s). At my work, the Woke crowd regularly go out after work, have ‘movie night,’ smoke dope together (and other things), throw Halloween parties, etc. & never invite people of other persuasions; not just me & the other 2x2 in our company, but anyone else who professes faith in Christ. I’ve invited some of the Woke to my house for Thanksgiving (because they have no family locally & would be alone) or simply for dinner, & they have never once taken me up on the offer. So, this talk that 2x2s are reclusive & self-righteous & exclusive is BS as far as I’m concerned. The Woke are just as exclusive when it comes to socializing. To each his own. Be friendly, but don’t think it’s necessary to be everyone’s friend. Maybe you, like me, like your own company.  I've spent the last several years cutting people out of my life that drag me down. I'm too old to put up with the crap others dish out. I no longer tolerate folk because they are friends of friends or even family. It was hard to cut ties, but I am better off for it. Over the past four years, I lost my parents and nine very close friends who I did stay in regular contact with. That was a blow! I had meetups at my home very regularly till covid hit. I am slowly trying to build another group of like-minded folks,but sadly it's not easy. We would meet up and have a pot luck day with people all over the house and in the basement reading cards and doing reiki or just chit chatting. I sure miss those days. There are a few of us left that only see each other at funerals these days. *sigh* |
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Post by rudyw on Feb 2, 2023 17:22:05 GMT -5
No, Curly, it’s not a defensive maneuver. It’s called courtesy. I don’t go about calling you stupid; I don’t say you’re going to hell; I don’t demene your intelligence. You do all those things to other people. You assume I’m being defensive, & maybe I am. But, not for the reasons you think. I’m not insecure in my faith. But, people who are bullies, by demeaning others simply who disagree with them, are tiresome. By using snide comment, ad nauseum, it implies that you are the one who is insecure. Not me. I find it interesting that you are upset that I said your jesus would be with the woke crowd. When I was professing and third generation, it was very clear to me that your jesus did not hang out with the self righteous. His mission was to the exact opposite, the irreligious. By the way, your jesus did not have blue eyes. The American KKK would have dragged him behind a pick up truck. You’re being snide again. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 2, 2023 17:37:08 GMT -5
I find it interesting that you are upset that I said your jesus would be with the woke crowd. When I was professing and third generation, it was very clear to me that your jesus did not hang out with the self righteous. His mission was to the exact opposite, the irreligious. By the way, your jesus did not have blue eyes. The American KKK would have dragged him behind a pick up truck. You’re being snide again. A box of tissues for you. |
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Post by rudyw on Feb 2, 2023 17:41:55 GMT -5
You’re being snide again. A box of tissues for you. No tissues necessary. Snideness just makes it difficult to communicate with you. That’s apparently your goal, which I’ll accept. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 20:31:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the reply, Annan. I just don’t see any reason to be close friends with coworkers; especially if I have absolutely nothing in common with them. It’s important to be friendly; but being friendly & being friends are two different things. It’s funny; there are people I work with whoI like them (even people who are morally the polar opposite of me). But, it’s a simple fact that if I were to quit tomorrow, I’d probably never hear from them again (or they from me). So, why worry about befriending people I work with? On the other hand, there are friends from years ago, who I go months or years without seeing or speaking with, and when we finally do meet up again, or call out of the blue, it’s as if it was just yesterday that we last spoke. The difference between coworkers (not all coworkers, but those we don’t relate to) & old friends we don’t speak to regularly is this: common values & a common worldview. I’ve noticed that some on this board think I’m self-righteous for this way of thinking. But, this sort of behavior is NOT just done by friends (2x2s). At my work, the Woke crowd regularly go out after work, have ‘movie night,’ smoke dope together (and other things), throw Halloween parties, etc. & never invite people of other persuasions; not just me & the other 2x2 in our company, but anyone else who professes faith in Christ. I’ve invited some of the Woke to my house for Thanksgiving (because they have no family locally & would be alone) or simply for dinner, & they have never once taken me up on the offer. So, this talk that 2x2s are reclusive & self-righteous & exclusive is BS as far as I’m concerned. The Woke are just as exclusive when it comes to socializing. To each his own. Be friendly, but don’t think it’s necessary to be everyone’s friend. I reckon your Jesus would have been with the "woke" crowd. You reckon wrong. Christ doesn't join us, we join him. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 20:33:20 GMT -5
I seriously doubt that, Curly. And honestly, I take offense to him being called ‘my Jesus.’ He’s not ‘my Jesus.’ He’s yours too, whether you realize it or not. Please stop being so snide. People tend to avoid you, or not take you seriously when you belittle people by being snide. Yes, we all know you believe in facts. Good for you! But seriously, can you please stop trolling & just be civil, like a normal person? Uh oh wait for it, the downunder crowd will be chiming in shortly... |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 2, 2023 21:41:12 GMT -5
A box of tissues for you. No tissues necessary. Snideness just makes it difficult to communicate with you. That’s apparently your goal, which I’ll accept. Not only is your jesus not my jesus, he is also not the jesus for billions of others who follow other gods. Your posts smack of arrogance when you suggest your jesus is everyones jesus. The myth you follow are no more important than any of the other religious myths. |
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Post by openingact34 on Mar 27, 2023 0:35:37 GMT -5
Podcast: My Spiritual Life Interviewee: Jessica Baker Nationality: Canada (Alberta) Status: Bitter Ex New episode from Jessica is up. Panel of 3 women compare notes on life as cult members. Ex-Mormon vs Ex-2x2 vs Ex-JW. Admittedly, I did not listen to all 2 hours yet, but seems like a decent discussion. www.youtube.com/watch?v=yieG8iuFSO0 |
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Post by openingact34 on May 14, 2023 23:45:39 GMT -5
Podcast: Talk Beliefs Interviewee: Laura McConnell Conti Nationality: Australia (New South Wales) Status: VERY Bitter Ex Brand new and explosive episode! Laura talks about her efforts to file against the Truth using the Australian National Redress Scheme. She also explains the Dean Bruer scandal. I believe this is the first time the N. America scandal has been covered in any kind of public interview. The whole ecosystem of cult podcasts and researchers might pick this up and give the Truth a LOT more publicity if she can learn to tell the account in a more dramatic way. www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwDwBgLzxv4"Nothing you want to do will make it safe. The only way it can be made safe is if it no longer exists. That's the harsh reality. Trying to change it from the inside is futile, it's pointless. It's built on a foundation of lies and of power and control and abuse of women and children and vulnerable people and it just needs to be burnt to the ground" |
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Post by openingact34 on Aug 19, 2023 21:35:15 GMT -5
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Post by openingact34 on Aug 23, 2023 22:37:55 GMT -5
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Post by openingact34 on Aug 23, 2023 22:39:59 GMT -5
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Post by believingjesus on Sept 19, 2023 17:50:18 GMT -5
Podcasts: Cultist Diaries Episode Title: The Nameless Cult Presenter: Anonymous Nationality: ? Status: Bitter Ex I finally found one by a male! This is a very young man who lost out during the 2020 quarantines while he was still in high school. He seems very sensitive and twisted up by the Truth. It isn't as widely available on all platforms. open.spotify.com/episode/3onowxKvZ3VZvyl2TdhYLeI feel bad for him. It seems like he could use someone to talk to. |
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Post by openingact34 on Nov 5, 2023 22:35:09 GMT -5
Podcast: CDAN Podcast Interviewees: Anonymous Victim and Whistleblower Nationality: USA Status: Victim Ex Somehow, I missed this one. It came out back in April. A lot of the content is just explaining how the cult works to a worldling. But I also learned a couple really important things. “Jane” shares that Wings for Truth started by exes has been taken over by current cult members, and the leaders now even refused to publish her account of being abused! I guess a lot of the worst abuse is still being censored and powerful professing people are preventing it from being shared on the internet. open.spotify.com/episode/4pMu9UvqQnNRnCKs33bfA2 |
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Post by fixit on Nov 6, 2023 23:36:56 GMT -5
Podcast: CDAN Podcast Interviewees: Anonymous Victim and Whistleblower Nationality: USA Status: Victim Ex Somehow, I missed this one. It came out back in April. A lot of the content is just explaining how the cult works to a worldling. But I also learned a couple really important things. “Jane” shares that Wings for Truth started by exes has been taken over by current cult members, and the leaders now even refused to publish her account of being abused! I guess a lot of the worst abuse is still being censored and powerful professing people are preventing it from being shared on the internet. open.spotify.com/episode/4pMu9UvqQnNRnCKs33bfA2I don't have time to listen to this podcast but if she wants her account published why not post it here? |
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Post by Auckland friends on Nov 7, 2023 1:45:43 GMT -5
Podcast: CDAN Podcast Interviewees: Anonymous Victim and Whistleblower Nationality: USA Status: Victim Ex Somehow, I missed this one. It came out back in April. A lot of the content is just explaining how the cult works to a worldling. But I also learned a couple really important things. “Jane” shares that Wings for Truth started by exes has been taken over by current cult members, and the leaders now even refused to publish her account of being abused! I guess a lot of the worst abuse is still being censored and powerful professing people are preventing it from being shared on the internet. open.spotify.com/episode/4pMu9UvqQnNRnCKs33bfA2From what I see WINGS hasn't been 'taken over by current members' WINGS has always been focused on CSA and has aways been a mix of current and ex members. The primary area to post accounts of abuse is wingsbts.proboards.com/It would be very surprising if Jane's story isn't publishable. Jane should contact wingsfortruth@googlegroups.com |
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Post by CherieKropp on Nov 9, 2023 21:14:02 GMT -5
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Post by xna on Feb 4, 2024 16:34:45 GMT -5
Be advised there is some profanity used.
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Post by snow on Feb 4, 2024 18:28:42 GMT -5
Be advised there is some profanity used. I'm still listening to this, but wow, can I relate to my upbringing. But the last part of the interview is so true. Fundamentalism does align with conservatism. It's so easy to create the 'other' as evil and 'part of the devil' because it's also so much a part of the bible mindset. |
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Post by xna on Feb 4, 2024 19:25:48 GMT -5
Be advised there is some profanity used. I'm still listening to this, but wow, can I relate to my upbringing. But the last part of the interview is so true. Fundamentalism does align with conservatism. It's so easy to create the 'other' as evil and 'part of the devil' because it's also so much a part of the bible mindset. She is very articulate and you can tell she has figured out the 2x2 and all religion pretty much like most ex-2x2 atheists have. Good for her. |
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