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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 20, 2020 22:20:48 GMT -5
When you treat them well, they will thank you. Which they did. That's too funny for words. Treat a butcher knife welding person "nice?". lol But, hey if it worked for you that's great. I think you got this idea from the Bible by the way. It says " ... a soft answer turneth away wrath ..." etc I knew that the Bible advised that. But the truth is, I understand that threatening people makes THEM want to hurt you. I knew that all those guys wanted was my money -- why make them MAD at me? It maybe saved my life .... and it DID save me a reasonable amount of cash. And don't panic. Crooks are afraid of people who panic on them.
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Post by Annan on Sept 21, 2020 8:33:05 GMT -5
Nathan is good at messing people up. ** No, people start to WAKE UP! and smell the Coffee. You mean koolaid, don't you?
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Post by slowtosee on Sept 21, 2020 9:02:52 GMT -5
That's too funny for words. Treat a butcher knife welding person "nice?". lol But, hey if it worked for you that's great. I think you got this idea from the Bible by the way. It says " ... a soft answer turneth away wrath ..." etc I knew that the Bible advised that. But the truth is, I understand that threatening people makes THEM want to hurt you. I knew that all those guys wanted was my money -- why make them MAD at me? It maybe saved my life .... and it DID save me a reasonable amount of cash. And don't panic. Crooks are afraid of people who panic on them. A 79 year old friend of mine died last week , He was a farmer and , as most , had a bulk storage fuel tank in his yard One night he “ caught “ a person stealing gas . He goes out and “catches” the guy , expressing empathy to him for running out of gas in the middle of the night Offers him some more in Jerry cans and gives him a ride to the getaway vehicle , and helps him pour it in etc The thief , who I also know , said he would NEVER steal gas from Weston again Alvin
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Post by jetmech on Sept 21, 2020 12:40:49 GMT -5
The reason for the second amendment is to protect us from the government. A well armed citizenship can never be subdued as long as they're willing to fight. America can also be a violent place, especially in our big cities. I know a woman who was raped twice by guys who broke into her apartment, she finally bought a gun and no one has bothered her since. A gun can be the perfect equalizer in a violent situation, the reality is often a choice between getting a gun or being a victim. The second amendment is not about a well armed citizenry. It's about a well-regulated Militia. Where is there a well-regulated militia? I couldn't find a thumbs down button for this post so I inserted one ... here goes 👎
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 21, 2020 12:56:38 GMT -5
The second amendment is not about a well armed citizenry. It's about a well-regulated Militia. Where is there a well-regulated militia? I couldn't find a thumbs down button for this post so I inserted one ... here goes 👎 Playing the victim as you and your ilk do leads to trouble. Look At Yugoslavia. Trump and the Republicans are just like Milosevic and the Serbs. It will not end well.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 21, 2020 15:21:37 GMT -5
The second amendment is not about a well armed citizenry. It's about a well-regulated Militia. Where is there a well-regulated militia? I couldn't find a thumbs down button for this post so I inserted one ... here goes 👎 You're dissing the 2nd amendment, not me. Where is there a well regulated militia? I might believe you.
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Post by jetmech on Sept 21, 2020 16:05:25 GMT -5
I couldn't find a thumbs down button for this post so I inserted one ... here goes 👍 You're dissing the 2nd amendment, not me. Where is there a well regulated militia? I might believe you. ok ... Let me read this again ... I might turn that thumb back over.
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Sept 21, 2020 16:37:59 GMT -5
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Post by speak on Sept 21, 2020 16:37:59 GMT -5
The second amendment is not about a well armed citizenry. It's about a well-regulated Militia. Where is there a well-regulated militia? I couldn't find a thumbs down button for this post so I inserted one ... here goes 👎 Why give the thumbs down to something that is sensible?
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Post by speak on Sept 21, 2020 16:39:04 GMT -5
You're dissing the 2nd amendment, not me. Where is there a well regulated militia? I might believe you. ok ... Let me read this again ... I might turn that thumb back over. I would have thought it was a given.
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Post by fixit on Sept 21, 2020 17:10:07 GMT -5
I couldn't find a thumbs down button for this post so I inserted one ... here goes 👎 Playing the victim as you and your ilk do leads to trouble. Look At Yugoslavia. Trump and the Republicans are just like Milosevic and the Serbs. It will not end well. Watching Trumps rallies in the news gives me the impression of a crowd of thugs. Not unlike Hitler's rallies. It's not all Trumps fault. Social networking plays a part: www.nytimes.com/2020/09/09/movies/the-social-dilemma-review.html
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Sept 21, 2020 20:51:49 GMT -5
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Post by jetmech on Sept 21, 2020 20:51:49 GMT -5
You're dissing the 2nd amendment, not me. Where is there a well regulated militia? I might believe you. ok ... Let me read this again ... I might turn that thumb back over. Ok I turned the thumb over; but, I think a well regulated militia could consist of some armed farmers out in the "boonies" keeping order, keeping some terrorists from killing innocent fellow Americans and so on ...
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 21, 2020 21:18:31 GMT -5
ok ... Let me read this again ... I might turn that thumb back over. Ok I turned the thumb over; but, I think a well regulated militia could consist of some armed farmers out in the "boonies" keeping order, keeping some terrorists from killing innocent fellow Americans and so on ... Jet, -think about this for a bit.
If you think it is right have "some armed farmers out in the "boonies" keeping order," -then you will have to also believe that well "regulated militia" should include people from every other part of the the country as well as every other worker in their particular job to also be a part of the "well regulated militia."
Just who are the "terrorists" and who decides what is the "well regulated militia" and who is the person or persons who will "regulate" the "well regulated militia?"
Gets a bit complicated doesn't it?
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Sept 21, 2020 21:23:53 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Sept 21, 2020 21:23:53 GMT -5
Only if you’re out of touch with our founding fathers’ vision and assumptions, of a ‘more perfect’ union.
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 21, 2020 22:04:22 GMT -5
Only if you’re out of touch with our founding fathers’ vision and assumptions, of a ‘more perfect’ union. Then Lee, -please do inform me exactly what was "our founding fathers’ vision and assumptions, of a ‘more perfect’ union'?"
Do you really think that "a well regulated militia could consist of some armed farmers out in the "boonies" keeping order?"
Of course, -actually they might well have, -since at that time only the people who could vote were men who were "land holders." (farmers etc.)
Who were able to vote: Timeline
1789: The Constitution of the United States grants the states the power to set voting requirements. Generally, states limited this right to property-owning or tax-paying white males (about 6% of the population).
1790: The Naturalization Act of 1790 allows free white persons born outside of the United States to become citizens. However, due to the Constitution granting the states the power to set voting requirements, this Act (and its successor Naturalization Act of 1795) did not automatically grant the right to vote.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_voting_rights_in_the_United_States
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Sept 21, 2020 22:13:53 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Sept 21, 2020 22:13:53 GMT -5
Our founding fathers concept of a militia was a militia born of the tapestry of our nation's settlers. This would reflect approximately, her values and culture. The people in other words, and no less.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 21, 2020 23:09:05 GMT -5
Ok I turned the thumb over; but, I think a well regulated militia could consist of some armed farmers out in the "boonies" keeping order, keeping some terrorists from killing innocent fellow Americans and so on ... Jet, -think about this for a bit.
If you think it is right have "some armed farmers out in the "boonies" keeping order," -then you will have to also believe that well "regulated militia" should include people from every other part of the the country as well as every other worker in their particular job to also be a part of the "well regulated militia."
Just who are the "terrorists" and who decides what is the "well regulated militia" and who is the person or persons who will "regulate" the "well regulated militia?"
Gets a bit complicated doesn't it? The founding fathers actually got their well regulated militias -- they're called the National Guard. In educated law, the people represents the government by the people, and individuals are referred to as persons.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 23:20:31 GMT -5
Jet, -think about this for a bit.
If you think it is right have "some armed farmers out in the "boonies" keeping order," -then you will have to also believe that well "regulated militia" should include people from every other part of the the country as well as every other worker in their particular job to also be a part of the "well regulated militia."
Just who are the "terrorists" and who decides what is the "well regulated militia" and who is the person or persons who will "regulate" the "well regulated militia?"
Gets a bit complicated doesn't it? The founding fathers actually got their well regulated militias -- they're called the National Guard. In educated law, the people represents the government by the people, and individuals are referred to as persons. well then that nixes a couple more amendments starting with the 1st.... there are 2 kinds of militia regulated/organized and unregulated/unorganized... read the federalist papers for further understanding #29 and #46...
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Sept 23, 2020 7:19:22 GMT -5
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Post by chuck on Sept 23, 2020 7:19:22 GMT -5
You said we were off topic on the "Quote thread" and I agree. So here is a seperate thread. Your post Wally on the "Quote" thread. "Take it to Christ, he's the one who said to buy a sword and a firearm is just a modern version of a sword". That is just crazy logic, Christ said that in a different age, completely different culture. Get up to date, live according to the times, and the rules of Government, not the way it was 2000 years ago. I bet you don't wear Sackcloth and you get around in a Car, not on your Ass. This is exactly what is wrong with the way we read scripture. We read ourselves back into it. When we learn to read it from before hand like you are suggesting it all makes sense, and the Man in the sky just disappears and we wouldn't be seeing posts literally where does God reside and Jesus lives in Venus.
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Post by chuck on Sept 23, 2020 7:31:50 GMT -5
Wally, just because that was bad behaviour by Humans in the past, it should not set the standard for the future. Every generation becomes a bit more intelligent. The Human brain size is growing, we should use that benefit for good. Always remember the Sixth Commandment, "Thou shalt not kill". look around you bad behavior is on the rise and coming to a town near you soon....that commandment is best interpreted as "thou shalt not lay in wait to do harm" or more akin to murder than killing.... The world's getting better wally. Just because there's more people not like you does not mean its getting worse, Or there is a spike in behavioural problems. Bad behaviour is on a rise compared to when?
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Post by intelchips on Sept 23, 2020 7:33:52 GMT -5
Indeed a sad situation. It just makes us so thankful that we live in Australia and NZ. But I am still wondering if the Workers carry Guns in America. If they don't then how do they survive. I would never carry a Gun, because I am too slow on the draw, even Rabbits always got away. The other fellow would win the day. Therefore I would not feel any safer with a Gun, it would only cause me stress. I can't see how you would always be faster on the draw. The attacker would always have an advantage IMO. Well, in your case carry a gun and a sword,
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 8:31:49 GMT -5
look around you bad behavior is on the rise and coming to a town near you soon....that commandment is best interpreted as "thou shalt not lay in wait to do harm" or more akin to murder than killing.... The world's getting better wally. Just because there's more people not like you does not mean its getting worse, Or there is a spike in behavioural problems. Bad behaviour is on a rise compared to when? your powers of observation need a serious upgrade...
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Post by chuck on Sept 23, 2020 8:43:25 GMT -5
The world's getting better wally. Just because there's more people not like you does not mean its getting worse, Or there is a spike in behavioural problems. Bad behaviour is on a rise compared to when? your powers of observation need a serious upgrade... Oh so your perceived behavioural problems are worse than the Holocaust?. How about the sack of Antwerp or the Inquisition's?. You still haven’t read a history book I see.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 8:53:27 GMT -5
your powers of observation need a serious upgrade... Oh so your perceived behavioural problems are worse than the Holocaust?. How about the sack of Antwerp or the Inquisition's?. You still haven’t read a history book I see. what is coming will make those look like a child's silly day dream, the direction your headed you are gonna get caught with your pants down... Luk_21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
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Post by jetmech on Sept 23, 2020 9:30:12 GMT -5
Jet, -think about this for a bit.
If you think it is right have "some armed farmers out in the "boonies" keeping order," -then you will have to also believe that well "regulated militia" should include people from every other part of the the country as well as every other worker in their particular job to also be a part of the "well regulated militia."
Just who are the "terrorists" and who decides what is the "well regulated militia" and who is the person or persons who will "regulate" the "well regulated militia?"
Gets a bit complicated doesn't it? The founding fathers actually got their well regulated militias -- they're called the National Guard. In educated law, the people represents the government by the people, and individuals are referred to as persons. I look at it this way. The second ammendment has worked just fine since it's inception. Americans owning guns has never hurt ANYTHING and America is still a country! You "city slickers" who don't hunt, and are afraid even of a BB gun, need to back off this anti-gun BS!!! There IS an agenda behind all this madness... They've disarmed the UK, Sweden, Germany etc and for what?! So the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT the NEW WORLD ORDER can be put in place and the populace of the whole world can be controlled like ants in a jar! Microchips put in people is just over the horizon. They will know the whereabouts of every human being at anytime. They'll know every detail of your medical history, your finances, every spec of detail about each person. They will determine who lives, who dies, and they will control when you die. Every human being will be enslaved to the WORLD ORDER ... the GOVERNMENT. Money will not exist. You will be purchasing food with your microchip. You will eat what the government says you'll eat! Period. You piss the government off ... your ability to buy and sell will be cut off! YOU WILL BE CONTROLLED LIKE A BUNCH OF HOGS IN A PEN! You want to go hunt your food? FORGET IT... you won't have a gun! Only the crooks will have guns! You want to protect your family from savages? Ha! You might as well go piss against the wind!!! As soon as AMERICANS are disarmed ... this will all come to pass. You "silly souls" who keep nudging at this anti-guns idea, keep picking at it like a dry scab on a sore, going against the grain, and disbanding what good men fought and gave their lives to protect, and are afraid of guns yourself, need to back off, and leave this alone. Let gun toting MEN handle this problem. When they start taking guns away from Americans ... there's going to be a civil war in this country that's going to make the George Floyd murder riots look like child's play!!!!
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Post by Annan on Sept 23, 2020 11:44:48 GMT -5
When they start taking guns away from Americans ... there's going to be a civil war in this country that's going to make the George Floyd murder riots look like child's play!!!! Yep.
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 23, 2020 12:16:48 GMT -5
When they start taking guns away from Americans ... there's going to be a civil war in this country that's going to make the George Floyd murder riots look like child's play!!!! I think that is what excites the Australian and New Zealand posters. It will make them feel even more superior
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 23, 2020 13:05:05 GMT -5
your powers of observation need a serious upgrade... Oh so your perceived behavioural problems are worse than the Holocaust?. How about the sack of Antwerp or the Inquisition's?. You still haven’t read a history book I see. Wally is waiting for the picture version to come out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 15:24:48 GMT -5
Oh so your perceived behavioural problems are worse than the Holocaust?. How about the sack of Antwerp or the Inquisition's?. You still haven’t read a history book I see. what is coming will make those look like a child's silly day dream, the direction your headed you are gonna get caught with your pants down... Luk_21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. Nothing worse than getting caught with your pants down. Stops you from being able to run away, they are like hobbles. I always get caught when the phone rings when I am on the toilet. Never make it on time, phone that is.
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