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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 22:33:48 GMT -5
You said we were off topic on the "Quote thread" and I agree. So here is a seperate thread.
Your post Wally on the "Quote" thread. "Take it to Christ, he's the one who said to buy a sword and a firearm is just a modern version of a sword".
That is just crazy logic, Christ said that in a different age, completely different culture. Get up to date, live according to the times, and the rules of Government, not the way it was 2000 years ago.
I bet you don't wear Sackcloth and you get around in a Car, not on your Ass.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 0:35:57 GMT -5
You said we were off topic on the "Quote thread" and I agree. So here is a seperate thread. Your post Wally on the "Quote" thread. "Take it to Christ, he's the one who said to buy a sword and a firearm is just a modern version of a sword". That is just crazy logic, Christ said that in a different age, completely different culture. Get up to date, live according to the times, and the rules of Government, not the way it was 2000 years ago. I bet you don't wear Sackcloth and you get around in a Car, not on your Ass. a car is just the modern equivalent of the a$$ or horse... God given rights AKA human rights supersede any gov'ts rules but if we are being technical here americans are abiding by gov't rules private firearm ownership is embeded in our gov't rules...
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Post by Dan on Sept 17, 2020 1:02:17 GMT -5
The reason for the second amendment is to protect us from the government. A well armed citizenship can never be subdued as long as they're willing to fight. America can also be a violent place, especially in our big cities. I know a woman who was raped twice by guys who broke into her apartment, she finally bought a gun and no one has bothered her since. A gun can be the perfect equalizer in a violent situation, the reality is often a choice between getting a gun or being a victim.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 17, 2020 1:09:34 GMT -5
The reason for the second amendment is to protect us from the government. A well armed citizenship can never be subdued as long as they're willing to fight. America can also be a violent place, especially in our big cities. I know a woman who was raped twice by guys who broke into her apartment, she finally bought a gun and no one has bothered her since. A gun can be the perfect equalizer in a violent situation, the reality is often a choice between getting a gun or being a victim. The second amendment is not about a well armed citizenry. It's about a well-regulated Militia. Where is there a well-regulated militia?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 1:16:39 GMT -5
The reason for the second amendment is to protect us from the government. A well armed citizenship can never be subdued as long as they're willing to fight. America can also be a violent place, especially in our big cities. I know a woman who was raped twice by guys who broke into her apartment, she finally bought a gun and no one has bothered her since. A gun can be the perfect equalizer in a violent situation, the reality is often a choice between getting a gun or being a victim. The second amendment is not about a well armed citizenry. It's about a well-regulated Militia. Where is there a well-regulated militia? couldn't be more clear.... the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. a study of the federalist papers on the 2nd amendment would be enlightening for you...
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 17, 2020 1:17:37 GMT -5
The second amendment is not about a well armed citizenry. It's about a well-regulated Militia. Where is there a well-regulated militia? couldn't be more clear.... the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. a study of the federalist papers on the 2nd amendment would be enlightening for you... Been there, done that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 1:22:33 GMT -5
couldn't be more clear.... the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. a study of the federalist papers on the 2nd amendment would be enlightening for you... Been there, done that. well as they say you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink...
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 17, 2020 1:23:43 GMT -5
well as they say you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink... Smart horses don't drink poison Kool-Ade.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 1:27:26 GMT -5
well as they say you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink... Smart horses don't drink poison Kool-Ade. so the federalist papers are poison? me thinks you are not as freedom loving as you put on here...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 1:33:41 GMT -5
Indeed a sad situation. It just makes us so thankful that we live in Australia and NZ. But I am still wondering if the Workers carry Guns in America. If they don't then how do they survive.
I would never carry a Gun, because I am too slow on the draw, even Rabbits always got away. The other fellow would win the day. Therefore I would not feel any safer with a Gun, it would only cause me stress. I can't see how you would always be faster on the draw. The attacker would always have an advantage IMO.
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Post by Dan on Sept 17, 2020 1:41:51 GMT -5
The reason for the second amendment is to protect us from the government. A well armed citizenship can never be subdued as long as they're willing to fight. America can also be a violent place, especially in our big cities. I know a woman who was raped twice by guys who broke into her apartment, she finally bought a gun and no one has bothered her since. A gun can be the perfect equalizer in a violent situation, the reality is often a choice between getting a gun or being a victim. The second amendment is not about a well armed citizenry. It's about a well-regulated Militia. Where is there a well-regulated militia?
On Paul Revere's midnight ride to warn that the British were coming, all the towns people got their muskets, they were the militia. Today, we call 911, but the minute men were a bit faster.
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Post by speak on Sept 17, 2020 1:51:27 GMT -5
Indeed a sad situation. It just makes us so thankful that we live in Australia and NZ. But I am still wondering if the Workers carry Guns in America. If they don't then how do they survive. I would never carry a Gun, because I am too slow on the draw, even Rabbits always got away. The other fellow would win the day. Therefore I would not feel any safer with a Gun, it would only cause me stress. I can't see how you would always be faster on the draw. The attacker would always have an advantage IMO. I highly doubt that they take any weaponry. I believe that they would have faith in God to keep them, not saying that it won't happen that they wouldn't be some sort of danger some time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 2:19:24 GMT -5
Just the other night on the nightly news there was an account of an incident in America. A Police car pulled up with two Officers in it. An attacker ran up and fired about 10 rounds through the window. They weren't killed but suffered serious injury. Their Guns weren't much protection and how often does someone jump a person and shoot them with their own Gun.
And attackers aren't very polite, they don't warn you by saying, "Get your Gun out, I am about to shoot you". No it will always be no Guns for this old Dog. The only Bullets I like are the packet that I got from my Daughter for Father's Day. They are Bullet shape, Liquorice covered with dark Chocolate, Yummy!!!.
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Post by maryhig on Sept 17, 2020 2:45:03 GMT -5
God's people don't need guns if they have faith in God. Daniel had faith when he went into the lions den, his friends had faith when they were put into the fiery furnace. And Paul said, our weapons of warfare are not carnal.
Those who have faith in God don't use literal swords, they use the sword of the Spirit, the shield of faith, the helmet of salvation and their feet are shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace. Paul had faith as did all those who belong to God in the Bible. We will all go through suffering in this world, but those of us who have faith in God don't need the weapons of this world we trust in God.
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10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 17, 2020 3:15:08 GMT -5
The second amendment is not about a well armed citizenry. It's about a well-regulated Militia. Where is there a well-regulated militia? couldn't be more clear.... the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. a study of the federalist papers on the 2nd amendment would be enlightening for you... The right wing rabble I have seen gathering on the streets of the USA is certainly not well regulated. It appears intent on terrorising anyone different to their sick world view. That makes them terrorists.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 17, 2020 4:00:07 GMT -5
couldn't be more clear.... the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. a study of the federalist papers on the 2nd amendment would be enlightening for you... The right wing rabble I have seen gathering on the streets of the USA is certainly not well regulated. It appears intent on terrorising anyone different to their sick world view. That makes them terrorists. And to make things worse, we have a president who praises vigilantism.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 17, 2020 4:10:42 GMT -5
The second amendment is not about a well armed citizenry. It's about a well-regulated Militia. Where is there a well-regulated militia? On Paul Revere's midnight ride to warn that the British were coming, all the towns people got their muskets, they were the militia. Today, we call 911, but the minute men were a bit faster. You're forgetting that the minutemen were the ones who were committing the crimes -- they were rebelling against the legal authorities.
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Post by fixit on Sept 17, 2020 5:51:33 GMT -5
On Paul Revere's midnight ride to warn that the British were coming, all the towns people got their muskets, they were the militia. Today, we call 911, but the minute men were a bit faster. You're forgetting that the minutemen were the ones who were committing the crimes -- they were rebelling against the legal authorities. Yeah....your lot were rebelling against our lot.
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Post by Annan on Sept 17, 2020 8:36:11 GMT -5
God's people don't need guns if they have faith in God. Daniel had faith when he went into the lions den, his friends had faith when they were put into the fiery furnace. And Paul said, our weapons of warfare are not carnal. Those who have faith in God don't use literal swords, they use the sword of the Spirit, the shield of faith, the helmet of salvation and their feet are shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace. Paul had faith as did all those who belong to God in the Bible. We will all go through suffering in this world, but those of us who have faith in God don't need the weapons of this world we trust in God. Ephesians 6 10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Is Waldo ignoring this post?
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Post by nathan on Sept 17, 2020 8:55:10 GMT -5
Indeed a sad situation. It just makes us so thankful that we live in Australia and NZ. But I am still wondering if the Workers carry Guns in America. If they don't then how do they survive. I would never carry a Gun, because I am too slow on the draw, even Rabbits always got away. The other fellow would win the day. Therefore I would not feel any safer with a Gun, it would only cause me stress. I can't see how you would always be faster on the draw. The attacker would always have an advantage IMO. There are many objects can be use as weapons, your hands, feet, your car keys, pens, knives so, you don't need guns to protect yourself. The sisters workers can use panic car keys alarms, mace, pepper sprays... Many women and men have taken martial arts defense classes to protect themselves if they don't want to carry guns with them or have it in their homes.
God has given us brains so use it! Wisely.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 11:11:44 GMT -5
You said we were off topic on the "Quote thread" and I agree. So here is a seperate thread. Your post Wally on the "Quote" thread. "Take it to Christ, he's the one who said to buy a sword and a firearm is just a modern version of a sword". That is just crazy logic, Christ said that in a different age, completely different culture. Get up to date, live according to the times, and the rules of Government, not the way it was 2000 years ago. I bet you don't wear Sackcloth and you get around in a Car, not on your Ass. a car is just the modern equivalent of the a$$ or horse... God given rights AKA human rights supersede any gov'ts rules but if we are being technical here americans are abiding by gov't rules private firearm ownership is embeded in our gov't rules... The prophesy in 2 Peter 2:16 comes to mind: "But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet." Now that our cars can talk to us, it's as though the dumb ass is speaking.
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Post by fixit on Sept 17, 2020 13:23:30 GMT -5
Indeed a sad situation. It just makes us so thankful that we live in Australia and NZ. But I am still wondering if the Workers carry Guns in America. If they don't then how do they survive. I would never carry a Gun, because I am too slow on the draw, even Rabbits always got away. The other fellow would win the day. Therefore I would not feel any safer with a Gun, it would only cause me stress. I can't see how you would always be faster on the draw. The attacker would always have an advantage IMO. There are many objects can be use as weapons, your hands, feet, your car keys, pens, knives so, you don't need guns to protect yourself. The sisters workers can use panic car keys alarms, mace, pepper sprays... Many women and men have taken martial arts defense classes to protect themselves if they don't want to carry guns with them or have it in their homes.
God has given us brains so use it! Wisely.That's about as logical as your science fiction posts.
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Post by nathan on Sept 17, 2020 13:54:19 GMT -5
There are many objects can be use as weapons, your hands, feet, your car keys, pens, knives so, you don't need guns to protect yourself. The sisters workers can use panic car keys alarms, mace, pepper sprays... Many women and men have taken martial arts defense classes to protect themselves if they don't want to carry guns with them or have it in their homes.
God has given us brains so use it! Wisely. That's about as logical as your science fiction posts. ** You down under do NOT live in Portland; Seattle, and California so, you have no clue what many of us in United States are dealing with these days. It's NOT science fiction that I post on here but Science Facts you've been brain washed too many years with so much junk in your head so you get confused between facts and fiction.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 17, 2020 13:55:21 GMT -5
That's about as logical as your science fiction posts. ** You down under do NOT live in Portland so, you have no clue what many of us in United States are dealing with these days. It's NOT science fiction that I post on here but Science Facts you been brain washed too many years with so much junk in your head so you get confused between facts and fiction. You need to go see a trick cyclist about your own head.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 17:32:16 GMT -5
God's people don't need guns if they have faith in God. Daniel had faith when he went into the lions den, his friends had faith when they were put into the fiery furnace. And Paul said, our weapons of warfare are not carnal. Those who have faith in God don't use literal swords, they use the sword of the Spirit, the shield of faith, the helmet of salvation and their feet are shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace. Paul had faith as did all those who belong to God in the Bible. We will all go through suffering in this world, but those of us who have faith in God don't need the weapons of this world we trust in God. Ephesians 6 10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: this post is very ignorant of christian history...i'm sure it was the sword of the spirit that won WWII, WWI the civil war....etc etc...
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 17, 2020 17:44:53 GMT -5
God's people don't need guns if they have faith in God. Daniel had faith when he went into the lions den, his friends had faith when they were put into the fiery furnace. And Paul said, our weapons of warfare are not carnal. Those who have faith in God don't use literal swords, they use the sword of the Spirit, the shield of faith, the helmet of salvation and their feet are shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace. Paul had faith as did all those who belong to God in the Bible. We will all go through suffering in this world, but those of us who have faith in God don't need the weapons of this world we trust in God. Ephesians 6 10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: this post is very ignorant of christian history...i'm sure it was the sword of the spirit that won WWII, WWI the civil war....etc etc... That is wishful thinking on your part.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 18:10:04 GMT -5
this post is very ignorant of christian history...i'm sure it was the sword of the spirit that won WWII, WWI the civil war....etc etc... That is wishful thinking on your part. yeah right, tell that to the 60 million who died during WWII alone, good and bad. was that by a carnal weapon or the sword of the spirit? i don't remember any brimstone coming down out of the sky or a great wind slaying any of hitlers troops or a great plague striking the opposing armies of hitler....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 18:16:51 GMT -5
Just the other night on the nightly news there was an account of an incident in America. A Police car pulled up with two Officers in it. An attacker ran up and fired about 10 rounds through the window. They weren't killed but suffered serious injury. Their Guns weren't much protection and how often does someone jump a person and shoot them with their own Gun. And attackers aren't very polite, they don't warn you by saying, "Get your Gun out, I am about to shoot you". No it will always be no Guns for this old Dog. The only Bullets I like are the packet that I got from my Daughter for Father's Day. They are Bullet shape, Liquorice covered with dark Chocolate, Yummy!!!. this is why you learn about and apply situational awareness at all times. will someone get through that now and then sure but that is more the exception not the rule....
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