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Post by Dan on Sept 18, 2020 2:45:15 GMT -5
On Paul Revere's midnight ride to warn that the British were coming, all the towns people got their muskets, they were the militia. Today, we call 911, but the minute men were a bit faster. You're forgetting that the minutemen were the ones who were committing the crimes -- they were rebelling against the legal authorities.
Exactly, thus the 2nd amendment, the last defense against tyranny & oppressive government.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2020 2:46:35 GMT -5
okay...i just gave you 250k to 2 million examples per year in the USA of defensive use/fight with their sword/firearm/weapon and 99% of them do not die by that sword/firearm/weapon...was Jesus wrong or did he lie? What's that got to do with Jesus? He's speaking about fighting brings on more fighting. your changing the subject maryhig and your trying to avoid the question cause you know you are wrong you've painted yourself into a corner. i think i know the problem too your a literalist and a fundamentalist which also explains why you don't accept the blood of christ nor understand the trinity concept. anywho i'll answer it on your behalf since you wont Jesus wasn't wrong or lied YOU are wrong about that verse.
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Post by maryhig on Sept 18, 2020 2:49:34 GMT -5
What's that got to do with Jesus? He's speaking about fighting brings on more fighting. your changing the subject maryhig and your trying to avoid the question cause you know you are wrong you've painted yourself into a corner. i think i know the problem too your a literalist and a fundamentalist which also explains why you don't accept the blood of christ nor understand the trinity concept. anywho i'll answer it on your behalf since you wont Jesus wasn't wrong or lied YOU are wrong about that verse. No I'm not Wally, Jesus clearly means that those who fight, cause others to fight back, and regardless of what you say, Jesus was against fighting and using weapons. If we start using violence, then we get violence back. The way to overcome evil is with good. Fighting brings more fighting.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2020 2:56:03 GMT -5
your changing the subject maryhig and your trying to avoid the question cause you know you are wrong you've painted yourself into a corner. i think i know the problem too your a literalist and a fundamentalist which also explains why you don't accept the blood of christ nor understand the trinity concept. anywho i'll answer it on your behalf since you wont Jesus wasn't wrong or lied YOU are wrong about that verse. No I'm not Wally, Jesus clearly means that those who fight, cause others to fight back, and regardless of what you say, Jesus was against fighting and using weapons. If we start using violence, then we get violence back. The way to overcome evil is with good. Fighting brings more fighting. on that note i think i am going to bed and sleep the just of the just with my trusty firearm by my side...
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Post by maryhig on Sept 18, 2020 3:01:09 GMT -5
No I'm not Wally, Jesus clearly means that those who fight, cause others to fight back, and regardless of what you say, Jesus was against fighting and using weapons. If we start using violence, then we get violence back. The way to overcome evil is with good. Fighting brings more fighting. on that note i think i am going to bed and sleep the just of the just with my trusty firearm by my side... Goodnight Wally, we've just got up here it's 9am 😊
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 18, 2020 3:19:56 GMT -5
We like to keep it a bit exclusive Wally. but we are very Cosmopolitan. Take a listen to this, "We Are Australian". youtu.be/RY_tl-N93AYI could be wrong, but I think that was composed by Bruce Woodley of The Seekers? I recall their Live version some years ago. Goosebumps. Did you ever see the seekers at the Bowl? Awesome
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 18, 2020 3:21:55 GMT -5
You're forgetting that the minutemen were the ones who were committing the crimes -- they were rebelling against the legal authorities.
Exactly, thus the 2nd amendment, the last defense against tyranny & oppressive government.
The Minutemen were formed whilst the "USA" was still a colony. They were originally used to suppress problem Indian tribes who objected to their land being stolen by the wa.nkers from England.
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Post by Pragmatic on Sept 18, 2020 3:28:23 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but I think that was composed by Bruce Woodley of The Seekers? I recall their Live version some years ago. Goosebumps. Did you ever see the seekers at the Bowl? Awesome Twice. Once as a young fella, then again on their Jubilee tour. I also saw them at the Opera House. I loved their blend, and KP’s 12 string guitar playing. Mind you, I have also heard Jimmy Barnes, George Thorogood, Doobie Bros, and other rockers there too, which is more my type of music.
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Post by Pragmatic on Sept 18, 2020 3:30:33 GMT -5
No I'm not Wally, Jesus clearly means that those who fight, cause others to fight back, and regardless of what you say, Jesus was against fighting and using weapons. If we start using violence, then we get violence back. The way to overcome evil is with good. Fighting brings more fighting. on that note i think i am going to bed and sleep the just of the just with my trusty firearm by my side... I prefer my wife, thanks
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 18, 2020 3:41:08 GMT -5
Did you ever see the seekers at the Bowl? Awesome Twice. Once as a young fella, then again on their Jubilee tour. I also saw them at the Opera House. I loved their blend, and KP’s 12 string guitar playing. Mind you, I have also heard Jimmy Barnes, George Thorogood, Doobie Bros, and other rockers there too, which is more my type of music. Marvelous... did you go to see Jethro Tull when he was in town?
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Post by Pragmatic on Sept 18, 2020 3:54:44 GMT -5
Twice. Once as a young fella, then again on their Jubilee tour. I also saw them at the Opera House. I loved their blend, and KP’s 12 string guitar playing. Mind you, I have also heard Jimmy Barnes, George Thorogood, Doobie Bros, and other rockers there too, which is more my type of music. Marvelous... did you go to see Jethro Tull when he was in town? Yeah, I seem to recall him. I think he played the flute too
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 18, 2020 4:11:51 GMT -5
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Post by Dan on Sept 18, 2020 4:16:37 GMT -5
your changing the subject maryhig and your trying to avoid the question cause you know you are wrong you've painted yourself into a corner. i think i know the problem too your a literalist and a fundamentalist which also explains why you don't accept the blood of christ nor understand the trinity concept. anywho i'll answer it on your behalf since you wont Jesus wasn't wrong or lied YOU are wrong about that verse. No I'm not Wally, Jesus clearly means that those who fight, cause others to fight back, and regardless of what you say, Jesus was against fighting and using weapons. If we start using violence, then we get violence back. The way to overcome evil is with good. Fighting brings more fighting.
Does God change? Consider the Psalm where David asked the Lord to guide his arrows into the hearts of his enemies, and the many times God told Israel to attack their enemies. Wasn't it violent for Jesus to overturn the tables in the Temple and chase the money changers out with a whip. I don't think God mandated that Christians not defend themselves, he didn't write 'victim' on our foreheads or paint targets on our backs.
Of course, we inevitably rely on God to avenge us from our enemies, that's why we pray for them, and that's corrective love. But beyond the spiritual application, I don't think the bible teaches us not to physically protect ourselves. While we don't initiate violence, we do overcome evil with good, but that often times requires a punitive response to aggression.
As Paul said, "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men" (Romans 12:18). But its not always possible to be a peace loving Christian when someone is intent on smacking you upside the head .. jmo
Just a personal experience, many moons aloft, I had a crazy employee quit and she ripped my business apart on her way out (literally). She also solicited customers with lies and tried to sue me, even came back and threw a rock through a window. I actually prayed for this crazy woman (wasn't easy). Within a couple weeks, she moved to a different county, later her husband beat her and she got divorced, 2 years ago her house was destroyed by a tornado, and this year she got fired from her job. Maybe just karma, but I suspect 'praying for my enemies' had something to do with it. Its a loving thing to pray for our enemies, but the response isn't generally God blessing them, but correcting them.
During this battle, I also protected myself, called the police and she was consequently convicted of criminal mischief. The whole episode cost her over $15k and the judge ordered her to reimburse me for all the damages. What's odd is that it all came to fruition last month when this crazy woman called me out of the blue and asked me for a job. I had forgiven my enemy, but had no job for her.
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Post by maryhig on Sept 18, 2020 4:42:40 GMT -5
No I'm not Wally, Jesus clearly means that those who fight, cause others to fight back, and regardless of what you say, Jesus was against fighting and using weapons. If we start using violence, then we get violence back. The way to overcome evil is with good. Fighting brings more fighting.
Does God change? Consider the Psalm where David asked the Lord to guide his arrows into the hearts of his enemies, and the many times God told Israel to attack their enemies. Wasn't it violent for Jesus to overturn the tables in the Temple and chase the money changers out with a whip. I don't think God mandated that Christians not defend themselves, he didn't write 'victim' on our foreheads or paint targets on our backs.
Of course, we inevitably rely on God to avenge us from our enemies, that's why we pray for them, and that's corrective love. But beyond the spiritual application, I don't think the bible teaches us not to physically protect ourselves. While we don't initiate violence, we do overcome evil with good, but that often times requires a punitive response to aggression.
As Paul said, "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men" (Romans 12:18). But its not always possible to be a peace loving Christian when someone is intent on smacking you upside the head .. jmo
Just a personal experience, many moons aloft, I had a crazy employee quit and she ripped my business apart on her way out (literally). She also solicited customers with lies and tried to sue me, even came back and threw a rock through a window. I actually prayed for this crazy woman (wasn't easy). Within a couple weeks, she moved to a different county, later her husband beat her and she got divorced, 2 years ago her house was destroyed by a tornado, and this year she got fired from her job. Maybe just karma, but I suspect 'praying for my enemies' had something to do with it. Its a loving thing to pray for our enemies, but the response isn't generally God blessing them, but correcting them.
During this battle, I also protected myself, called the police and she was consequently convicted of criminal mischief. The whole episode cost her over $15k and the judge ordered her to reimburse me for all the damages. What's odd is that it all came to fruition last month when this crazy woman called me out of the blue and asked me for a job. I had forgiven my enemy, but had no job for her.
And that's right, forgive her but no more jobs. But then again, she may have changed by now and sorted herself out? As you said it was a long time ago so you never know. But regardless, I would still help her if I saw her in need, I don't mean give her a job, but if she needs help in some way. And my point is, Jesus didn't come with violence he came with peace. And he is our example to follow, he showed love mercy and forgiveness to his enemies he didn't attack them with swords and weapons. They crucified him, and he prayed to the father to forgive them, he overcame evil with good, showing us how to live before God. Look at these verses, do you really believe that Jesus wants us to fight our own families with literal swords? Matthew 10 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Post by Lee on Sept 18, 2020 8:53:58 GMT -5
Why did he want division at all, except that all would be laid bare as the world was judged of sin.
So let’s say there’s a divorce. Because the divorce could be traced to sin, let’s say in some sense it’s what Jesus wanted.
So then the parties are ordered by a gun wielding government to dissolve the common property.
Our 2nd amendment instills in me a respect for law and order. The task of keeping peace is not simply someone else’s problem.
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Post by nathan on Sept 18, 2020 13:18:36 GMT -5
No I'm not Wally, Jesus clearly means that those who fight, cause others to fight back, and regardless of what you say, Jesus was against fighting and using weapons. If we start using violence, then we get violence back. The way to overcome evil is with good. Fighting brings more fighting. on that note i think i am going to bed and sleep the just of the just with my trusty firearm by my side... *** Sleep tight! Just to think that the children of Israel didn't have weapons to defend and protect against their enemies, they wouldn't last a few months. For 1800 years the Vaudois, the Cartha, Waldensians, Albigenses and millions of Christians like them defend themselves with all kinds of weapons against the RCC invaders and the Crusaders. They didn't turn the other cheek.
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Post by Annan on Sept 18, 2020 14:00:23 GMT -5
I want to laugh, but I find it very sad that there are those that cherry pick the scriptures to suit their own needs. They puff themselves up and act superior to others when they have no clue what the sermon on the mount was all about. Sad state of affairs.
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 18, 2020 14:35:39 GMT -5
Does God change? Consider the Psalm where David asked the Lord to guide his arrows into the hearts of his enemies, and the many times God told Israel to attack their enemies. Wasn't it violent for Jesus to overturn the tables in the Temple and chase the money changers out with a whip. I don't think God mandated that Christians not defend themselves, he didn't write 'victim' on our foreheads or paint targets on our backs.
Of course, we inevitably rely on God to avenge us from our enemies, that's why we pray for them, and that's corrective love. But beyond the spiritual application, I don't think the bible teaches us not to physically protect ourselves. While we don't initiate violence, we do overcome evil with good, but that often times requires a punitive response to aggression.
As Paul said, "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men" (Romans 12:18). But its not always possible to be a peace loving Christian when someone is intent on smacking you upside the head .. jmo
Just a personal experience, many moons aloft, I had a crazy employee quit and she ripped my business apart on her way out (literally). She also solicited customers with lies and tried to sue me, even came back and threw a rock through a window. I actually prayed for this crazy woman (wasn't easy). Within a couple weeks, she moved to a different county, later her husband beat her and she got divorced, 2 years ago her house was destroyed by a tornado, and this year she got fired from her job. Maybe just karma, but I suspect 'praying for my enemies' had something to do with it. Its a loving thing to pray for our enemies, but the response isn't generally God blessing them, but correcting them.
During this battle, I also protected myself, called the police and she was consequently convicted of criminal mischief. The whole episode cost her over $15k and the judge ordered her to reimburse me for all the damages. What's odd is that it all came to fruition last month when this crazy woman called me out of the blue and asked me for a job. I had forgiven my enemy, but had no job for her.
And that's right, forgive her but no more jobs. But then again, she may have changed by now and sorted herself out? As you said it was a long time ago so you never know. But regardless, I would still help her if I saw her in need, I don't mean give her a job, but if she needs help in some way. And my point is, Jesus didn't come with violence he came with peace. And he is our example to follow, he showed love mercy and forgiveness to his enemies he didn't attack them with swords and weapons. They crucified him, and he prayed to the father to forgive them, he overcame evil with good, showing us how to live before God. Look at these verses, do you really believe that Jesus wants us to fight our own families with literal swords? Matthew 10 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. At certain points in time, hacking up your family with a sword was EXACTLY what God requested. He may require it again! “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’” The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. Then Moses said, “You have been set apart to the Lord today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day.” - Exodus 32:27-9
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Post by Dan on Sept 18, 2020 16:35:40 GMT -5
And that's right, forgive her but no more jobs. But then again, she may have changed by now and sorted herself out? As you said it was a long time ago so you never know. But regardless, I would still help her if I saw her in need, I don't mean give her a job, but if she needs help in some way. And my point is, Jesus didn't come with violence he came with peace. And he is our example to follow, he showed love mercy and forgiveness to his enemies he didn't attack them with swords and weapons. They crucified him, and he prayed to the father to forgive them, he overcame evil with good, showing us how to live before God. Look at these verses, do you really believe that Jesus wants us to fight our own families with literal swords? Matthew 10 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
No, I don't believe Jesus was speaking figuratively, reference to a sword was just metaphorical, meaning there would be tension and conflict between family members, i.e; believers & nonbelievers.
Jesus didn't defend himself because he came as a sacrifice, "Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour" (John 12:27). Physically, he didn't overcome evil with good, evil won the day when he was nailed to a tree.... But I get what your saying.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 18, 2020 16:40:50 GMT -5
You're forgetting that the minutemen were the ones who were committing the crimes -- they were rebelling against the legal authorities. Exactly, thus the 2nd amendment, the last defense against tyranny & oppressive government.
The US government is touted as government of the people, by the people, for the people. The irony of the people's government terrorizing themselves. HAHAHAHA
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Post by jetmech on Sept 18, 2020 21:17:03 GMT -5
No I'm not Wally, Jesus clearly means that those who fight, cause others to fight back, and regardless of what you say, Jesus was against fighting and using weapons. If we start using violence, then we get violence back. The way to overcome evil is with good. Fighting brings more fighting. on that note i think i am going to bed and sleep the just of the just with my trusty firearm by my side...
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 18, 2020 23:17:01 GMT -5
You're forgetting that the minutemen were the ones who were committing the crimes -- they were rebelling against the legal authorities. Exactly, thus the 2nd amendment, the last defense against tyranny & oppressive government.
I believe that you missed the point.
Or do you really believe that the so-called "militia" that are mobilizing with their guns now are really working "against tyranny & an oppressive government?"
They are nothing more than White Supremacists who believes that the white race is inherently superior to other races and that white people should have control over people of other races.
Doesn't that remind you of something that happened not that long ago?
Didn't Adolf Hitler also think that people of Northern European descent, (the whitest of the white) were a superior race to all others known races?
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Exactly, thus the 2nd amendment, the last defense against tyranny & oppressive government.
I believe that you missed the point.
Or do you really believe that the so-called "militia" that are mobilizing with their guns now are really working "against tyranny & an oppressive government?"
They are nothing more than White Supremacists who believes that the white race is inherently superior to other races and that white people should have control over people of other races.
Doesn't that remind you of something that happened not that long ago?
Didn't Adolf Hitler also think that people of Northern European descent, (the whitest of the white) were a superior race to all others known races?you've no idea of what the militia movement entails most are getting ready to move against tyranny, rioting, looting and arson a few others are White Supremacists there is no comparison despite your weak narrative...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2020 0:57:04 GMT -5
Just so proud of my Granddaughter who is working as a Clinical Consultant Phycologist up in the top end of Australia. She was thrilled yesterday to be sent to an Indigenous Community just off mainland Australia. Love her attitude. I know she will not mind me posting the comments she put with photos on her Facebook page.
During COVID lockdown and travel restrictions, I found myself extremely blessed today with the unique opportunity to visit the Tiwi island’s. As exciting as it was to ride the tiny yet terrifying plane, and see the film set of ‘Top End Wedding’, I left Tiwi today feeling above all extremely grateful and privileged for the life I have. Meeting some extraordinary Indigenous people, listening to their battles and seeing first hand, the everyday struggles that Pularumpi and Wurrumiyanga community endure as a result of living in poverty, discrimination and lack of opportunities. There’s a total of; 1 police station, 1 school, 1 shop, 1 art centre, 1 Centrelink office. Yet, 400 smiling faces.
Beautiful comment, has the empathy of my Wife, and compassionate nature. Just love one of her quotes at the top of her Facebook page, "Dreaming of a world where a chicken can cross the road without anybody questioning its motives".
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 19, 2020 1:20:24 GMT -5
I believe that you missed the point.
Or do you really believe that the so-called "militia" that are mobilizing with their guns now are really working "against tyranny & an oppressive government?"
They are nothing more than White Supremacists who believes that the white race is inherently superior to other races and that white people should have control over people of other races.
Doesn't that remind you of something that happened not that long ago?
Didn't Adolf Hitler also think that people of Northern European descent, (the whitest of the white) were a superior race to all others known races? you've no idea of what the militia movement entails most are getting ready to move against tyranny, rioting, looting and arson a few others are White Supremacists there is no comparison despite your weak narrative... Oh? Then what are you hiding from the rest of the country and why are you not coming out in the open so we can recognize you? White supremacists disguised as Black Lives Matter supporters triggered riots, Richmond mayor says by Madison Dibble, Breaking News Reporter | | July 27, 2020 07:45 PMwww.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-supremacists-disguised-as-black-lives-matter-supporters-triggered-riots-richmond-mayor-says Undercover white supremacists are to blame for the riots that took place during the Black Lives Matter protests in Richmond, Virginia, according to Richmond Mayor Levar Stoney. Stoney said on Sunday that white supremacists were "marching under the banner of Black Lives Matter" during the demonstrations and led the way when the protests devolved into riots."Last night, that [violence] reared its ugly head right here in the City of Richmond ... We saw some violent actions, violent protests, spearheaded by white supremacists. And frankly, it was disgusting. Disgusting. As they held plywood shields that read, 'BLM,' these folks toured areas of damage downtown, The Fan, breaking windows, tagging private property with hateful language," Stoney said.
Police announced on Monday that they believe undercover white supremacists led a group of rioters that cut down police tape over the weekend and rushed a police station, eventually setting a dump truck on fire outside the station. Richmond Police Chief Gerald Smith said he thinks the instigators were linked to the Boogaloo boys, a right-wing anarchist group that has ties to white supremacy. He also said that left-wing antifa protesters were involved in the violence.Stoney thanked the Black Lives Matter protesters who remained peaceful and did not follow the lead of the instigators."As I began with, I want to send a thanks to the BLM protesters on the ground who decried the white supremacists once they were identified. I'm thankful to you for drawing the line and sticking up not just for the sanctity of your movement, but also the safety of your fellow Richmonders that you marched alongside as well," he said.
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you've no idea of what the militia movement entails most are getting ready to move against tyranny, rioting, looting and arson a few others are White Supremacists there is no comparison despite your weak narrative... Oh? Then what are you hiding from the rest of the country and why are you not coming out in the open so we can recognize you? White supremacists disguised as Black Lives Matter supporters triggered riots, Richmond mayor says by Madison Dibble, Breaking News Reporter | | July 27, 2020 07:45 PMwww.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-supremacists-disguised-as-black-lives-matter-supporters-triggered-riots-richmond-mayor-says Undercover white supremacists are to blame for the riots that took place during the Black Lives Matter protests in Richmond, Virginia, according to Richmond Mayor Levar Stoney. Stoney said on Sunday that white supremacists were "marching under the banner of Black Lives Matter" during the demonstrations and led the way when the protests devolved into riots."Last night, that [violence] reared its ugly head right here in the City of Richmond ... We saw some violent actions, violent protests, spearheaded by white supremacists. And frankly, it was disgusting. Disgusting. As they held plywood shields that read, 'BLM,' these folks toured areas of damage downtown, The Fan, breaking windows, tagging private property with hateful language," Stoney said.
Police announced on Monday that they believe undercover white supremacists led a group of rioters that cut down police tape over the weekend and rushed a police station, eventually setting a dump truck on fire outside the station. Richmond Police Chief Gerald Smith said he thinks the instigators were linked to the Boogaloo boys, a right-wing anarchist group that has ties to white supremacy. He also said that left-wing antifa protesters were involved in the violence.Stoney thanked the Black Lives Matter protesters who remained peaceful and did not follow the lead of the instigators."As I began with, I want to send a thanks to the BLM protesters on the ground who decried the white supremacists once they were identified. I'm thankful to you for drawing the line and sticking up not just for the sanctity of your movement, but also the safety of your fellow Richmonders that you marched alongside as well," he said.sounds like propaganda to me...or no true scotsman
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Oh? Then what are you hiding from the rest of the country and why are you not coming out in the open so we can recognize you? White supremacists disguised as Black Lives Matter supporters triggered riots, Richmond mayor says by Madison Dibble, Breaking News Reporter | | July 27, 2020 07:45 PMwww.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-supremacists-disguised-as-black-lives-matter-supporters-triggered-riots-richmond-mayor-says Undercover white supremacists are to blame for the riots that took place during the Black Lives Matter protests in Richmond, Virginia, according to Richmond Mayor Levar Stoney. Stoney said on Sunday that white supremacists were "marching under the banner of Black Lives Matter" during the demonstrations and led the way when the protests devolved into riots."Last night, that [violence] reared its ugly head right here in the City of Richmond ... We saw some violent actions, violent protests, spearheaded by white supremacists. And frankly, it was disgusting. Disgusting. As they held plywood shields that read, 'BLM,' these folks toured areas of damage downtown, The Fan, breaking windows, tagging private property with hateful language," Stoney said.
Police announced on Monday that they believe undercover white supremacists led a group of rioters that cut down police tape over the weekend and rushed a police station, eventually setting a dump truck on fire outside the station. Richmond Police Chief Gerald Smith said he thinks the instigators were linked to the Boogaloo boys, a right-wing anarchist group that has ties to white supremacy. He also said that left-wing antifa protesters were involved in the violence.Stoney thanked the Black Lives Matter protesters who remained peaceful and did not follow the lead of the instigators."As I began with, I want to send a thanks to the BLM protesters on the ground who decried the white supremacists once they were identified. I'm thankful to you for drawing the line and sticking up not just for the sanctity of your movement, but also the safety of your fellow Richmonders that you marched alongside as well," he said. sounds like propaganda to me...or no true scotsman "propaganda?"- coming from the Washington Examiner?the Washington Examiner Right Biased mediabiasfactcheck.com
However, several news sources stated the same thing.
Do you ever check any news sources at all, even Fox news?
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