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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 15, 2020 7:15:55 GMT -5
I’m not sure what you mean beyond proclamation? Proclamation carries a written declaration, doesnt it? But claiming to believe in God beyond proclamation is what most of the believers have done here in TMB, haven’t we? Be it written or verbal doesn't change a thing. It's a statement, not a way of life. This happens when you believe in Heaven/Hell/Eternal only after you die. Blunt answer, No, everything on TMB falls into the above category of written/verbal. Me included!. If you want to go on statements, All of our Atheist friends are condemned to hell by those claiming to believe in a all loving all merciful God. If you want to go on a way of life some of our Christian friends will find heaven like hell because some of our Atheist friends will be there also, and some of our Chrisitian friends will find hell like heaven because they can keep condemning people. Heaven and Hell may be true after we die, but I am certain they are a present reality. One thing for sure, for some of us who live in hell on earth, the next is going to surely be better. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 15, 2020 7:19:57 GMT -5
That blows me away. How in the heck are people supposed to know what to believe when one group of workers says one thing and other group says something different? And don't say god will reveal and lead, as the workers don't see it that way. I’m not sure what you’re speaking about , Annan. Fixit just asked if that didnt workers want to help people or to spur them on to heaven and home. I replied, yes, most of them do. (Want to) is the operative verb. |
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Post by Annan on Feb 15, 2020 9:40:07 GMT -5
That blows me away. How in the heck are people supposed to know what to believe when one group of workers says one thing and other group says something different? And don't say god will reveal and lead, as the workers don't see it that way. I’m not sure what you’re speaking about , Annan. Fixit just asked if that didnt workers want to help people or to spur them on to heaven and home. I replied, yes, most of them do. (Want to) is the operative verb. You said "most of them do". I was thinking of the trinity and anti-trinity beliefs among the workers. How many other things does one group teach that another group of workers does not? Especially in and out of different countries. The point is that some may be leading believers astray. Nathan certainly believes that. And as to me saying earlier that you are so like Nathan... You said, "We'll see." in reference to we will see when the end times come. That is so Nathan to me. Threatening. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but that is how it came across to me. When someone says such a thing, it is with a smugness meaning that we will find out you were right in the end. That is so very unchristian like in my opinion. And while I'm at it... The fact that there is so much infighting between christians as to correct doctrine is hilarious, especially when you are trying to convince unbelievers that what you believe is true. |
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Post by Grant on Feb 15, 2020 10:32:37 GMT -5
Be it written or verbal doesn't change a thing. It's a statement, not a way of life. This happens when you believe in Heaven/Hell/Eternal only after you die. Blunt answer, No, everything on TMB falls into the above category of written/verbal. Me included!. If you want to go on statements, All of our Atheist friends are condemned to hell by those claiming to believe in a all loving all merciful God. If you want to go on a way of life some of our Christian friends will find heaven like hell because some of our Atheist friends will be there also, and some of our Chrisitian friends will find hell like heaven because they can keep condemning people. Heaven and Hell may be true after we die, but I am certain they are a present reality. One thing for sure, for some of us who live in hell on earth, the next is going to surely be better. What do you mean for some of US who live in hell on earth.... I am concerned by this statement. I know many in parts of the world live in a daily nightmare of wars and natural disasters, but STR by US, do you mean you personally? |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 15, 2020 11:15:59 GMT -5
I’m not sure what you’re speaking about , Annan. Fixit just asked if that didnt workers want to help people or to spur them on to heaven and home. I replied, yes, most of them do. (Want to) is the operative verb. You said "most of them do". I was thinking of the trinity and anti-trinity beliefs among the workers. How many other things does one group teach that another group of workers does not? Especially in and out of different countries. The point is that some may be leading believers astray. Nathan certainly believes that. And as to me saying earlier that you are so like Nathan... You said, "We'll see." in reference to we will see when the end times come. That is so Nathan to me. Threatening. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but that is how it came across to me. When someone says such a thing, it is with a smugness meaning that we will find out you were right in the end. That is so very unchristian like in my opinion. And while I'm at it... The fact that there is so much infighting between christians as to correct doctrine is hilarious, especially when you are trying to convince unbelievers that what you believe is true. If you’d paid any attention to those who know the history of ancient Israel and all that had fallen upon them and how the prophecies were so very accurate and how the promises God gave them even unto this day have come to pass even unto today, and had ever read the Bible in an attitude of what God is telling us about his plans and purpose, you would change your critical tune against those who are telling you that the things the Bible has told us are still be fulfilled. But then when no one believes the Bible is nothing more then a myth, of course they will never believe. Thus when you say I’m Nathan or like a Nathan; you need to broaden your accusation names to those whom that have shown us that the Bible IS RIGHT ON TARGET! And yes, I know Bob has refuted much about what we’ve said, but there are those from Israel blood lineage that have little clue either. For instance if they did, they’d understand that the antisemitism is an effort to get all the Israelites back into their homeland. They’ve been given back their land as God promised, they’ve been given back Jerusalem as God promised and the Jubilee year has come when they should have returned to what is theirs by inheritance. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 15, 2020 11:17:04 GMT -5
One thing for sure, for some of us who live in hell on earth, the next is going to surely be better. What do you mean for some of US who live in hell on earth.... I am concerned by this statement. I know many in parts of the world live in a daily nightmare of wars and natural disasters, but STR by US, do you mean you personally? Yes. Me personally! Want to check it out? Yes, it can always get worse. |
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Post by Grant on Feb 15, 2020 11:22:51 GMT -5
That makes me sad. Where will I check it out? I think you may have mentioned not being well.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 15, 2020 11:41:14 GMT -5
That makes me sad. Where will I check it out? I think you may have mentioned not being well. Thank you for your concern! I have Rheumatoid disease that has been raging like wildfire through my body(doctor’s words) for the past year. I also have Stage four Chronic kidney disease which eliminates being able to take anti inflammatory medications. And with other drug allergy , I can’t take much of any other drugs. Then the government is taking away any pain medications that people like me can take. So it’s living with constant pain and increasing disability. Then we have a pestilence in this area that attacks people with inflammatory problems. The more inflammation I get the more these pests attack. Yes they’ve tried killing them, but the insecticide has to get directly on them to kill them. Plus they reproduce every 3 days asexually or sexually. And yes it can get worse and is likely to get worse. |
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Post by fixit on Feb 15, 2020 13:17:40 GMT -5
I'm sorry about your health challenges STR, and wish you the best.
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Post by maryhig on Feb 15, 2020 16:35:55 GMT -5
That makes me sad. Where will I check it out? I think you may have mentioned not being well. Thank you for your concern! I have Rheumatoid disease that has been raging like wildfire through my body(doctor’s words) for the past year. I also have Stage four Chronic kidney disease which eliminates being able to take anti inflammatory medications. And with other drug allergy , I can’t take much of any other drugs. Then the government is taking away any pain medications that people like me can take. So it’s living with constant pain and increasing disability. Then we have a pestilence in this area that attacks people with inflammatory problems. The more inflammation I get the more these pests attack. Yes they’ve tried killing them, but the insecticide has to get directly on them to kill them. Plus they reproduce every 3 days asexually or sexually. And yes it can get worse and is likely to get worse. I'm sorry to hear this, I too have rheumatoid disease, I take a drug called hydroxychloriquine, (it's called plaqinel in America) it took a long time to kick in, but it's not supposed to be as harsh as other drugs. It has helped me, but I've started taking CBD oil, I take one that is called CBDa, which is for inflammation, and I've now halved the other drug I was on, I take 2 drops in the morning and 2 at night under my tongue. So I think it's helping, maybe you could look up about it, (I take one called simply green CBD oil) and see if you are able to take it and see if you're allowed it where you are. There is a site called simply CBD on Facebook and it's reasonably priced, I hope you find something to give you relief. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 15, 2020 17:00:55 GMT -5
Be it written or verbal doesn't change a thing. It's a statement, not a way of life. This happens when you believe in Heaven/Hell/Eternal only after you die. Blunt answer, No, everything on TMB falls into the above category of written/verbal. Me included!. If you want to go on statements, All of our Atheist friends are condemned to hell by those claiming to believe in a all loving all merciful God. If you want to go on a way of life some of our Christian friends will find heaven like hell because some of our Atheist friends will be there also, and some of our Chrisitian friends will find hell like heaven because they can keep condemning people. Heaven and Hell may be true after we die, but I am certain they are a present reality. One thing for sure, for some of us who live in hell on earth, the next is going to surely be better. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 15, 2020 17:31:50 GMT -5
Thank you for your concern! I have Rheumatoid disease that has been raging like wildfire through my body(doctor’s words) for the past year. I also have Stage four Chronic kidney disease which eliminates being able to take anti inflammatory medications. And with other drug allergy , I can’t take much of any other drugs. Then the government is taking away any pain medications that people like me can take. So it’s living with constant pain and increasing disability. Then we have a pestilence in this area that attacks people with inflammatory problems. The more inflammation I get the more these pests attack. Yes they’ve tried killing them, but the insecticide has to get directly on them to kill them. Plus they reproduce every 3 days asexually or sexually. And yes it can get worse and is likely to get worse. I'm sorry to hear this, I too have rheumatoid disease, I take a drug called hydroxychloriquine, (it's called plaqinel in America) it took a long time to kick in, but it's not supposed to be as harsh as other drugs. It has helped me, but I've started taking CBD oil, I take one that is called CBDa, which is for inflammation, and I've now halved the other drug I was on, I take 2 drops in the morning and 2 at night under my tongue. So I think it's helping, maybe you could look up about it, (I take one called simply green CBD oil) and see if you are able to take it and see if you're allowed it where you are. There is a site called simply CBD on Facebook and it's reasonably priced, I hope you find something to give you relief. Thank you, Maryhig! Marijuana products have always made me nauseous and vomiting. And with stage four chronic renal disease my scope of medical products available is quite limited. The disease has destroyed the sweat glands and skin on the palms of my hands and bottoms of my feet. Thus most rheumatologist drugs that’d be safe for my kidneys has an increased incidence of infections. It’s a case of choosing which health issue I want to die with. Between a rock and a hard place. I’ve had MERSA many years ago, so drs are reluctant to put me in that pathway. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 15, 2020 17:34:07 GMT -5
Thank you for your concern! I have Rheumatoid disease that has been raging like wildfire through my body(doctor’s words) for the past year. I also have Stage four Chronic kidney disease which eliminates being able to take anti inflammatory medications. And with other drug allergy , I can’t take much of any other drugs. Then the government is taking away any pain medications that people like me can take. So it’s living with constant pain and increasing disability. Then we have a pestilence in this area that attacks people with inflammatory problems. The more inflammation I get the more these pests attack. Yes they’ve tried killing them, but the insecticide has to get directly on them to kill them. Plus they reproduce every 3 days asexually or sexually. And yes it can get worse and is likely to get worse. I'm sorry to hear this, I too have rheumatoid disease, I take a drug called hydroxychloriquine, (it's called plaqinel in America) it took a long time to kick in, but it's not supposed to be as harsh as other drugs. It has helped me, but I've started taking CBD oil, I take one that is called CBDa, which is for inflammation, and I've now halved the other drug I was on, I take 2 drops in the morning and 2 at night under my tongue. So I think it's helping, maybe you could look up about it, (I take one called simply green CBD oil) and see if you are able to take it and see if you're allowed it where you are. There is a site called simply CBD on Facebook and it's reasonably priced, I hope you find something to give you relief. Mary, I’m very glad you’ve found help! Bless your heart! I wouldn’t wish this on anyone! |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 15, 2020 17:34:49 GMT -5
I'm sorry about your health challenges STR, and wish you the best. Thank you, Fixit! That is so kind of you! |
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Post by nathan on Feb 15, 2020 17:43:24 GMT -5
You seemed to be firmly in Nathan's camp so please forgive me for not seeing the distinction between your beliefs and his. All is okay. Nathan does posts some good things but then I’m not tied to his apron strings. All I wish to do is spur people on to heaven and home and in the meantime know the uplifting strength of God’s grace. *** STR and i don't always agree but we agree on many different topics, which we have similar understanding. Maybe, because we think and see things outside of the box. |
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Post by Grant on Feb 15, 2020 19:19:06 GMT -5
That makes me sad. Where will I check it out? I think you may have mentioned not being well. Thank you for your concern! I have Rheumatoid disease that has been raging like wildfire through my body(doctor’s words) for the past year. I also have Stage four Chronic kidney disease which eliminates being able to take anti inflammatory medications. And with other drug allergy , I can’t take much of any other drugs. Then the government is taking away any pain medications that people like me can take. So it’s living with constant pain and increasing disability. Then we have a pestilence in this area that attacks people with inflammatory problems. The more inflammation I get the more these pests attack. Yes they’ve tried killing them, but the insecticide has to get directly on them to kill them. Plus they reproduce every 3 days asexually or sexually. And yes it can get worse and is likely to get worse. These threads go so fast, can't keep up with them. Agree with the others STR. Look after yourself and may you always know the Lord as your comforter. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 15, 2020 19:38:35 GMT -5
Thank you for your concern! I have Rheumatoid disease that has been raging like wildfire through my body(doctor’s words) for the past year. I also have Stage four Chronic kidney disease which eliminates being able to take anti inflammatory medications. And with other drug allergy , I can’t take much of any other drugs. Then the government is taking away any pain medications that people like me can take. So it’s living with constant pain and increasing disability. Then we have a pestilence in this area that attacks people with inflammatory problems. The more inflammation I get the more these pests attack. Yes they’ve tried killing them, but the insecticide has to get directly on them to kill them. Plus they reproduce every 3 days asexually or sexually. And yes it can get worse and is likely to get worse. STR, God bless you! I’m so sorry to hear about your sufferings. Than God you have the promise of eternal joy. Keep fighting the good fight. You’re in my thoughts and prayers. Thank you very much! Yes I’m truly blessed in Him! |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 15, 2020 19:39:34 GMT -5
Thank you for your concern! I have Rheumatoid disease that has been raging like wildfire through my body(doctor’s words) for the past year. I also have Stage four Chronic kidney disease which eliminates being able to take anti inflammatory medications. And with other drug allergy , I can’t take much of any other drugs. Then the government is taking away any pain medications that people like me can take. So it’s living with constant pain and increasing disability. Then we have a pestilence in this area that attacks people with inflammatory problems. The more inflammation I get the more these pests attack. Yes they’ve tried killing them, but the insecticide has to get directly on them to kill them. Plus they reproduce every 3 days asexually or sexually. And yes it can get worse and is likely to get worse. These threads go so fast, can't keep up with them. Agree with the others STR. Look after yourself and may you always know the Lord as your comforter. Thank you, Enuf! I’ve been blessed by the good wishes today! |
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 15, 2020 19:52:43 GMT -5
All is okay. Nathan does posts some good things but then I’m not tied to his apron strings. All I wish to do is spur people on to heaven and home and in the meantime know the uplifting strength of God’s grace. *** STR and i don't always agree but we agree on many different topics, which we have similar understanding. Maybe, because we think and see things outside of the box.
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Post by nathan on Feb 15, 2020 20:16:42 GMT -5
*** STR and i don't always agree but we agree on many different topics, which we have similar understanding. Maybe, because we think and see things outside of the box.
It is still a very small box and let's a lot of unverified junk in!
Time will tell who got the JUNK or the treasures! eh.... I believe I got the biggest treasures and you got the JUNK in the judgment day.
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Post by fixit on Feb 15, 2020 22:40:52 GMT -5
Oh, wow!
It is still a very small box and let's a lot of unverified junk in!
Time will tell who got the JUNK or the treasures! eh.... I believe I got the biggest treasures and you got the JUNK in the judgment day.
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Post by maryhig on Feb 15, 2020 23:28:30 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear this, I too have rheumatoid disease, I take a drug called hydroxychloriquine, (it's called plaqinel in America) it took a long time to kick in, but it's not supposed to be as harsh as other drugs. It has helped me, but I've started taking CBD oil, I take one that is called CBDa, which is for inflammation, and I've now halved the other drug I was on, I take 2 drops in the morning and 2 at night under my tongue. So I think it's helping, maybe you could look up about it, (I take one called simply green CBD oil) and see if you are able to take it and see if you're allowed it where you are. There is a site called simply CBD on Facebook and it's reasonably priced, I hope you find something to give you relief. Thank you, Maryhig! Marijuana products have always made me nauseous and vomiting. And with stage four chronic renal disease my scope of medical products available is quite limited. The disease has destroyed the sweat glands and skin on the palms of my hands and bottoms of my feet. Thus most rheumatologist drugs that’d be safe for my kidneys has an increased incidence of infections. It’s a case of choosing which health issue I want to die with. Between a rock and a hard place. I’ve had MERSA many years ago, so drs are reluctant to put me in that pathway. I'm so sorry you are going through so much, if I could help in anyway I would, and I'm here if you just need to talk to someone as I have RD too. You can PM me anytime. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 15, 2020 23:54:55 GMT -5
Thank you, Maryhig! Marijuana products have always made me nauseous and vomiting. And with stage four chronic renal disease my scope of medical products available is quite limited. The disease has destroyed the sweat glands and skin on the palms of my hands and bottoms of my feet. Thus most rheumatologist drugs that’d be safe for my kidneys has an increased incidence of infections. It’s a case of choosing which health issue I want to die with. Between a rock and a hard place. I’ve had MERSA many years ago, so drs are reluctant to put me in that pathway. I'm so sorry you are going through so much, if I could help in anyway I would, and I'm here if you just need to talk to someone as I have RD too. You can PM me anytime. Thank you so very much! |
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Post by nathan on Feb 15, 2020 23:57:04 GMT -5
One Man’s Trash Is Another Man’s Treasure. The saying is something like, “One man’s trash is another man’s treasure” or “one man’s garbage is another man’s gold” which both mean that what is of little value to one person, may in fact be of great value to another person.
Time will tell who got the JUNK or the treasures! eh.... I believe I got the biggest treasures and you got the JUNK in the judgment day.
YouTube is not the best place to find heavenly treasure, Nathan.
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Post by iam on Feb 16, 2020 0:25:01 GMT -5
Interesting What technology are they using to transmit the meetings into homes ? Times are a changin
Jesus said in Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
Therefore, we should use today technology wisely! for the furtherance of the gospel, such as the planes, cars, computers, laptops, iPhone and internet/TMB to keep in touch with others around the world.
I don't perceive Jesus as doing anything quick and fast except when He healed someone in front of Him. And when He did choose transportation, he chose the humblest for of transportation...a donkey. It would be an embarrassment especially for a King. iPads and iPhones...Hmm...He did teach that a good tree cannot produce evil fruit so I can't imagine He wouldn't back His own words. But I don't follow Jesus very closely because I haven't thought like He does about these things. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 16, 2020 0:32:24 GMT -5
Right, a lot less aggressive, Are you serious?... and you don't think to put a HEX/curse on me on TMB are NOT aggressive behavior, fixit.
Nathan my dear friend, can you state whether or not this Hex/curse that Annan is supposed to have put on you was effective? In other words did it work? If it did can you explain how it did? If you can prove that this alleged curse or Hex was indeed effective in its design then I have no hesitation in stating that Annan should be dealt with according to Biblical prescription for such practices. How about that? I quite like Hex's they work really well. From the very smallest hex to the large ones they are all very dependable. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 16, 2020 0:39:45 GMT -5
Jesus and the apostles used all kinds of technology of what they had in their days... Jesus used the boats come go across the lakes, and donkey to ride into Jerusalem. Paul and his co-workers traveled by boat/ships to go from one country to the next spreading the gospel message of Jesus Christ to many Gentiles nations. The same today, use today modern technologies for the furtherance of the gospel quicker and faster to reach to all nations, that is one of the major requirement sbefore Jesus returns.
Jesus said in Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
Therefore, we should use today technology wisely! for the furtherance of the gospel, such as the planes, cars, computers, laptops, iPhone and internet/TMB to keep in touch with others around the world.
I don't perceive Jesus as doing anything quick and fast except when He healed someone in front of Him. And when He did choose transportation, he chose the humblest for of transportation...a donkey. It would be an embarrassment especially for a King. iPads and iPhones...Hmm...He did teach that a good tree cannot produce evil fruit so I can't imagine He wouldn't back His own words. But I don't follow Jesus very closely because I haven't thought like He does about these things.
You don't think Jesus will use the phone to contact his followers but he will deliver the message on foot? If Jesus lived in the west coast and tried to get a message to his apostles who lived in the east coast of USA. it would take him quite a long time to get there on foot or riding on the donkey, you know.
Wouldn't it be smarter if Jesus had use the modern days technologies like the workers do today?
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Post by iam on Feb 16, 2020 0:55:40 GMT -5
So because they say they only worship the father, are they blaspheming? By condemning me, you are also condemning many on your own church! Because you've just said I'm blaspheming and I believe as they do. And none of the friends that I have spoken to believe in the trinity, only really you and Wally. Most I have spoken to believe as I do and you said I am committing blasphemy! Do you tell your own workers and the friends in the meetings that too? ** Yes, people are blasphemer if they believe Jesus is only a man because NO man can die for our sins NOT even an angel can redeem us/Salvaton. If Jesus is only a man the why you/Cooneyites and 2x2s put Him on the SAME level as God the Father! ONLY to be WORSHIPPED and to receive our praises and adoration. Seems to me there's a lot of blasphemy on these boards that doesn't even touch on the Trinity. |
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