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Post by Get off of TMB on Feb 2, 2020 20:21:24 GMT -5
As the friends age and the birth rate falls, I see fewer bible studies in the future. Some places are having them in the afternoons and mornings. Some parts of the Deep South are 50 to as much as 100 miles from a study.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 20:25:40 GMT -5
they haven't stopped here...
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Post by nathan on Feb 2, 2020 20:29:29 GMT -5
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Post by joanna on Feb 2, 2020 20:32:44 GMT -5
Get off of TMB . Can you please share the proof for this claim that implies the 2x2 church membership is decreasing "As the friends age and the birth rate falls"? Which geographical region are you referring to?
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Post by julio on Feb 2, 2020 21:28:13 GMT -5
In some areas the population is exploding. At one convention recently, out of 1000 people, they had everyone under 30 years old stand up and it was a good third of the congregation. Lots of young people and young families. Most of the older ones that are not so mobile are able to listen at home now also.
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Post by slowtosee on Feb 2, 2020 21:40:22 GMT -5
In some areas the population is exploding. At one convention recently, out of 1000 people, they had everyone under 30 years old stand up and it was a good third of the congregation. Lots of young people and young families. Most of the older ones that are not so mobile are able to listen at home now also. Interesting What technology are they using to transmit the meetings into homes ? Times are a changin |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 4:40:21 GMT -5
It is a misnomer to call the Wednesday night meeting a "Bible Study". Nothing like one, more of a waffle session. Unless you have had the opportunity to attend a proper Bible study, you will never know how helpful they are in learning the Bible. I think it was more relevant when the 2x2's referred to the Wednesday night meeting as a subject meeting.
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Post by mountain on Feb 3, 2020 6:59:35 GMT -5
It is a misnomer to call the Wednesday night meeting a "Bible Study". Nothing like one, more of a waffle session. Unless you have had the opportunity to attend a proper Bible study, you will never know how helpful they are in learning the Bible. I think it was more relevant when the 2x2's referred to the Wednesday night meeting as a subject meeting. Are they not called 'Wednesday Trinity Worship Meetings' in the same way the Sunday morning meetings are called 'Sunday Trinity Worship Meetings?' That would make sense. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 3, 2020 8:46:08 GMT -5
It is a misnomer to call the Wednesday night meeting a "Bible Study". Nothing like one, more of a waffle session. Unless you have had the opportunity to attend a proper Bible study, you will never know how helpful they are in learning the Bible. I think it was more relevant when the 2x2's referred to the Wednesday night meeting as a subject meeting. Are they not called 'Wednesday Trinity Worship Meetings' in the same way the Sunday morning meetings are called 'Sunday Trinity Worship Meetings?' That would make sense.
Wed. night Bible studies or subjects meetings we do NOT partake the emblems we come together to studies God's words. If you have any questions about the Bible ask the workers come to your house and have studies with them.
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Post by nathan on Feb 3, 2020 8:56:37 GMT -5
In some areas the population is exploding. At one convention recently, out of 1000 people, they had everyone under 30 years old stand up and it was a good third of the congregation. Lots of young people and young families. Most of the older ones that are not so mobile are able to listen at home now also. Interesting What technology are they using to transmit the meetings into homes ? Times are a changin
Jesus said in Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
Therefore, we should use today technology wisely! for the furtherance of the gospel, such as the planes, cars, computers, laptops, iPhone and internet/TMB to keep in touch with others around the world.
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Post by maryhig on Feb 3, 2020 8:57:39 GMT -5
How many meetings a week do the friends and workers have?
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Post by maryhig on Feb 3, 2020 9:04:43 GMT -5
Are they not called 'Wednesday Trinity Worship Meetings' in the same way the Sunday morning meetings are called 'Sunday Trinity Worship Meetings?' That would make sense.
Wed. night Bible studies or subjects meetings we do NOT partake the emblems we come together to studies God's words. If you have any questions about the Bible ask the workers come to your house and have studies with them.
I'm sure they don't worship the trinity Nathan, they are probably like us. We believe in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, but we don't believe they are triune. As Jesus said, the true worshippers worship the father in spirit and in truth. |
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Post by slowtosee on Feb 3, 2020 9:34:01 GMT -5
Interesting What technology are they using to transmit the meetings into homes ? Times are a changin
Jesus said in Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
Therefore, we should use today technology wisely! for the furtherance of the gospel, such as the planes, cars, computers, laptops, iPhone and internet/TMB to keep in touch with others around the world.
Right. Television included , or?
Alvin
Edit - annoying red text copied over somehow
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Post by nathan on Feb 3, 2020 9:58:01 GMT -5
The Sunday morning meetings, the 2x2s come together to worship the Godhead/Trinity= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit. To sing and give praises and to honor God the Father, to remember Jesus Our Lord God life, death, sacrifice/the Emblems for our sins on Calvary's and to thank the Holy Spirit as our Teacher, Comforter and Protector until Jesus returns.
Wed. night Bible studies or subjects meetings we do NOT partake the emblems we come together to studies God's words. If you have any questions about the Bible ask the workers come to your house and have studies with them.
I'm sure they don't worship the trinity Nathan, they are probably like us. We believe in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, but we don't believe they are triune. As Jesus said, the true worshippers worship the father in spirit and in truth. ** Can you tell me what is your understanding of Triune God is? Thanks. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 3, 2020 10:07:22 GMT -5
Jesus and the apostles used all kinds of technology of what they had in their days... Jesus used the boats come go across the lakes, and donkey to ride into Jerusalem. Paul and his co-workers traveled by boat/ships to go from one country to the next spreading the gospel message of Jesus Christ to many Gentiles nations. The same today, use today modern technologies for the furtherance of the gospel quicker and faster to reach to all nations, that is one of the major requirement sbefore Jesus returns.
Jesus said in Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
Therefore, we should use today technology wisely! for the furtherance of the gospel, such as the planes, cars, computers, laptops, iPhone and internet/TMB to keep in touch with others around the world.
~~ Alvin wrote: Right. Television included, or?
** Yes, and Radio. I believe I heard Jack Carroll wanted to do Radio one time but he had too many workers didn't like that, they like the old fashion way. I had read the workers did interview for newspapers article about the 2x2s and it gave them a lot exposure in the local area. The internet is another good method to spread the gospel message. |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 3, 2020 10:18:08 GMT -5
I'm sure they don't worship the trinity Nathan, they are probably like us. We believe in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, but we don't believe they are triune. As Jesus said, the true worshippers worship the father in spirit and in truth. ** Can you tell me what is your understanding of Triune God is? Thanks. I don't believe in a triune God. I believe in one God, the father. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 3, 2020 10:32:09 GMT -5
Jesus and the apostles used all kinds of technology of what they had in their days... Jesus used the boats come go across the lakes, and donkey to ride into Jerusalem. Paul and his co-workers traveled by boat/ships to go from one country to the next spreading the gospel message of Jesus Christ to many Gentiles nations. The same today, use today modern technologies for the furtherance of the gospel quicker and faster to reach to all nations, that is one of the major requirement sbefore Jesus returns.
Jesus said in Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
Therefore, we should use today technology wisely! for the furtherance of the gospel, such as the planes, cars, computers, laptops, iPhone and internet/TMB to keep in touch with others around the world.
Right. Television included , or?
Alvin
Edit - annoying red text copied over somehow
I heard a minister say that one of the signs the tribulation is near is when the gospel has been preached over all the earth. He said it has now because of the internet and TVs. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 3, 2020 10:34:26 GMT -5
** Can you tell me what is your understanding of Triune God is? Thanks. I don't believe in a triune God. I believe in one God, the father. God is not a person’s name; that is their nature. The Father, the Sin and the Holy Spirit are their names and they all three possess the Godhead nature. |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 3, 2020 10:39:51 GMT -5
I don't believe in a triune God. I believe in one God, the father. God is not a person’s name; that is their nature. The Father, the Sin and the Holy Spirit are their names and they all three possess the Godhead nature. Yes I agree with that, they are of the same nature, but I don't agree that their are all God. But we've been over this and I don't want to disrupt this thread by arguing about the trinity, I'm just stating what I believe to be the truth. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 3, 2020 10:47:29 GMT -5
** Can you tell me what is your understanding of Triune God is? Thanks. I don't believe in a triune God. I believe in one God, the father. *** Wow! I see.. Then why, do you and your people Cooneyties, given praises, pray in his name and give thanks to Jesus every Sunday gathering? You are putting Jesus and the Holy Spirit on the same level as God the Father! That is BLASPHEMY to put anyone on the same level as God the Father unless they are God themselves. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 3, 2020 11:01:00 GMT -5
I heard a minister say that one of the signs the tribulation is near is when the gospel has been preached over all the earth. He said it has now because of the internet and TVs. *** I believe he is correct, that in the last warning before the wrath of God and the Lamb rained down on the earth.Read Rev. Chapter 16. |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 3, 2020 11:12:38 GMT -5
I don't believe in a triune God. I believe in one God, the father. *** Wow! I see.. Then why, do you and your people Cooneyties, given praises, pray in his name and give thanks to Jesus every Sunday gathering? You are putting Jesus and the Holy Spirit on the same level as God the Father! That is BLASPHEMY to put anyone on the same level as God the Father unless they are God themselves. So then are your church committing blasphemy because they don't believe in a triune God? |
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Post by mountain on Feb 3, 2020 11:31:17 GMT -5
** Can you tell me what is your understanding of Triune God is? Thanks. I don't believe in a triune God. I believe in one God, the father. Excellent answer! |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 3, 2020 11:31:23 GMT -5
God is not a person’s name; that is their nature. The Father, the Sin and the Holy Spirit are their names and they all three possess the Godhead nature. Yes I agree with that, they are of the same nature, but I don't agree that their are all God. But we've been over this and I don't want to disrupt this thread by arguing about the trinity, I'm just stating what I believe to be the truth. I’m not understanding what you’re saying. If they’re all of the God nature, then why doesn’t that make them “God” since God is not a name for a person but his nature? Isn’t that like saying mankind all have human nature but they’re not human? |
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Post by mountain on Feb 3, 2020 11:34:38 GMT -5
I don't believe in a triune God. I believe in one God, the father. God is not a person’s name; that is their nature. The Father, the Sin and the Holy Spirit are their names and they all three possess the Godhead nature. So when Jesus said 'My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me@ he was referring to himself? Matthew 27 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? |
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Post by nathan on Feb 3, 2020 11:45:37 GMT -5
*** Wow! I see.. Then why, do you and your people Cooneyties, given praises, pray in his name and give thanks to Jesus every Sunday gathering? You are putting Jesus and the Holy Spirit on the same level as God the Father! That is BLASPHEMY to put anyone on the same level as God the Father unless they are God themselves. So then are your church committing blasphemy because they don't believe in a triune God? *** The current workers and friends believed and taught the TRINITY and TRIUNE God But they don't KNOW or understand it, yet. The early days workers William Irvine, Edward Cooney and most ed and taught the TRINITY/Triune God and the workers believed it because they came out of many Protestant denominations and some from RCC. Back in those days, most denomination churches believed in the Trinity and Jesus/Christ is God. In 1903 dward Cooneyed and the early days workers established Sunday morning meeting/worship gathering so the workers and the friends come together to worship the Godhead/Trinity/Triune God like the New Testament believers. The current workers and friends still keep th Sunday morning worship meetings of the Trinity! But now they say they worship ONLY the Father, give thanks to Jesus the Son of God and It/Holy Spirit. |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 3, 2020 11:48:46 GMT -5
Yes I agree with that, they are of the same nature, but I don't agree that their are all God. But we've been over this and I don't want to disrupt this thread by arguing about the trinity, I'm just stating what I believe to be the truth. I’m not understanding what you’re saying. If they’re all of the God nature, then why doesn’t that make them “God” since God is not a name for a person but his nature? Isn’t that like saying mankind all have human nature but they’re not human? Being of the same nature does not make Jesus God. It says in the Bible that God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself. Jesus didn't sin, so he had the fullness of the nature of God bodily. He even said when he prayed to the father, "you have given me power over all flesh" and it also says that God made Jesus Christ and Lord and exalted him and he anointed him, and that the head of Christ is God. So God the father is higher than Christ and he is his God. As Jesus says himself. Also, it's disturbing that Nathan would say I'm blaspheming and that you have liked his post, just because I don't agree with what you both believe when I can clearly quote from the Bible why I believe as I do. You both should be careful how you judge others. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 3, 2020 11:53:25 GMT -5
God is not a person’s name; that is their nature. The Father, the Sin and the Holy Spirit are their names and they all three possess the Godhead nature. So when Jesus said 'My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me@ he was referring to himself? Matthew 27 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? ** Christ/God Jesus the Son speaking to God the Father in heaven as His God. In Hebrews 1 God the Father called the Son/Christ Jesus LORD and God. The Father is God; Christ is also God and the Holy Spirit as well. ALL three beings are ETERNAL. |
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