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Post by reborn on Feb 13, 2020 18:13:12 GMT -5
++++++++ Olea says once more : so who is saying what here. Is mountain talking to himself! Awesome! Why yes he is! |
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Post by nathan on Feb 13, 2020 18:13:46 GMT -5
*** Did God write the Bible? If He did NOT then why do you believe it? You are starting to sound very bitter. Me, bitter? You call me bitter because I asked you simple question. What is wrong with you? |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 13, 2020 18:22:38 GMT -5
What is a “fesard”? It’s not in my dictionary. If you’re saying people who’ve been given understandings from God that you haven’t had YET, and it’s a facade then you “skating close” to what those who said Jesus had a devil in him. That Jesus made plain is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. UNTIL you’re willing for the revelation, you won’t be bothered with it. God does not give anything to those who don’t want it. I didn’t think it possible, but after reading over and over again the scriptures that clearly back up that Jesus IS God, I became troubled about it. I WANTED to KNOW if it was anything worthwhile. That’s when God revealed it to me.
It basically mean a "false front" that means what a person shows that is not real or true.
Architecture.
~the front of a building, especially an imposing or decorative one.
any side of a building facing a public way or space and finished accordingly.
~a superficial appearance or illusion of something:
I already addressed that. Since Speak likes your post that’s what he meant. I still warn him about talking so negative and opposing to other people’s gifts from the HOLY SPIRIT. That’s skating RIGHT INTO BLASPHEMY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 13, 2020 18:25:54 GMT -5
I’m not sure of your meaning here? Care to embellish your meaning. Some say this verse didn't make sense to them until they saw it as living forever on the Earth. Well, maybe they do inherit the earth! There WILL BE A NEW EARTH and a new heaven. It’s just that some stopped the thinking process before realizing Jesus is talking about in eternity. So that would mean the NEW EARTH. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 13, 2020 18:27:56 GMT -5
What is a “fesard”? It’s not in my dictionary. If you’re saying people who’ve been given understandings from God that you haven’t had YET, and it’s a facade then you “skating close” to what those who said Jesus had a devil in him. That Jesus made plain is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. UNTIL you’re willing for the revelation, you won’t be bothered with it. God does not give anything to those who don’t want it. I didn’t think it possible, but after reading over and over again the scriptures that clearly back up that Jesus IS God, I became troubled about it. I WANTED to KNOW if it was anything worthwhile. That’s when God revealed it to me. You knew what it was didn't take much imagination see there is a lot of it here. But your slip is showing. Speak! I warned you about skating into blasphemy of the Holy Spirit! And you are talking against people’s gift of revelations from the Holy Spirit. Shame on you! |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 13, 2020 18:31:06 GMT -5
But if the preacher is not given such a notable position, and if he were to preach that which is adverse to what the older ceo workers approve, they would be refuting his/her message and thrusting them out of the work and fellowship. This is happening even to older overseers. One preached that God is like a clover leaf, it takes 3 petals (persons) to make the leaf. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. He is no longer on staff. Another did the same thing. He is no longer in the fellowship. Another excuse for their exits, of course, are cited. But that doesn’t hold water because for those reasons given there’s workers who are still in the fellowship, still in the work and some still overseers. So to argue if it were a message from the Holy Spirit it should or would be preached, doesn’t fit in the 2x2s. Too many people have been ex’s workered or completely excommunicated. If God controls the situation then their is no notable position but when man and his ideas come in then there is controversy. You are WRONG! The 2x2s are death to people who speak about the Trinity. They’ve excommunicated people for that and that IS SPIRITUAL ASSASSINATION! Controversies comes from pigheaded stubbornness and blasphemy of the Holy Spirit! |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 13, 2020 18:37:07 GMT -5
Good thinking Reebs? I think Olea is right! The board is self assigning names of posts at this point! I did not say the above post😄I think it was Rudy but maybe not😃 Reebs=funone=rudyw ? You’ve done this name game before, Mountain! And it is inflammatory! |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 13, 2020 18:39:32 GMT -5
Did God write the entire bible? |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 13, 2020 18:44:11 GMT -5
Perhaps he means the word " Façade.'"
It basically mean a "false front" that means what a person shows that is not real or true.
Architecture.
~the front of a building, especially an imposing or decorative one.
any side of a building facing a public way or space and finished accordingly.
~a superficial appearance or illusion of something:
Thanks couldn't quite get the spelling, we all make mistakes and those who don't don't make anything. I declare! With you Speak; it’s a case of damned if you do and damned if you don’t! I guessed at what you meant, but gave the courtesy of asking what the word meant IN CASE I WAS WRONG. But AGAIN, I warn you about blaspheming the gift of the Holy Spirit given to others. Do YOU know what having the indwelling Holy Spirit feels like? I’ve never heard one 2x2 describe it. Dare to give it a try? |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 13, 2020 18:51:38 GMT -5
What is a “fesard”? It’s not in my dictionary. If you’re saying people who’ve been given understandings from God that you haven’t had YET, and it’s a facade then you “skating close” to what those who said Jesus had a devil in him. That Jesus made plain is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. UNTIL you’re willing for the revelation, you won’t be bothered with it. God does not give anything to those who don’t want it. I didn’t think it possible, but after reading over and over again the scriptures that clearly back up that Jesus IS God, I became troubled about it. I WANTED to KNOW if it was anything worthwhile. That’s when God revealed it to me. I fear that you're ascribing a man-made belief system to revelation from God. A trinitarian bias will have the effect of scripture popping out to support your belief system, just like when you buy a while Toyota Corolla you'll see way more white Corollas on the road than you ever saw before. At least you’ve said, “I fear”! The scriptures do support the triune God. As I’ve said, it has to be a truth when Jews that have known nothing but Jewish Bible, come to know and believe Jesus is God just by reading their Jewish Bible. Not ever having seen even an English Bible not been told anything about the Trinity. I can’t reassure anyone who is forcibly fighting against that which the Holy Spirit has so graciously given me. I can accept you don’t want to believe it and still want to believe in Jesus. Why can you just not let it go and accept that through great cost, I’ve come to believe it and through that revelation, that Jesus has taken on to be of a priceless value? He IS MY TREASURE IN HEAVEN! We’re to lay treasure up in heaven. Well, he is mine! |
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Post by reborn on Feb 13, 2020 18:53:53 GMT -5
I fear that you're ascribing a man-made belief system to revelation from God. A trinitarian bias will have the effect of scripture popping out to support your belief system, just like when you buy a while Toyota Corolla you'll see way more white Corollas on the road than you ever saw before. At least you’ve said, “I fear”! The scriptures do support the triune God. As I’ve said, it has to be a truth when Jews that have known nothing but Jewish Bible, come to know and believe Jesus is God just by reading their Jewish Bible. Not ever having seen even an English Bible not been told anything about the Trinity. I can’t reassure anyone who is forcibly fighting against that which the Holy Spirit has so graciously given me. I can accept you don’t want to believe it and still want to believe in Jesus. Why can you just not let it go and accept that through great cost, I’ve come to believe it and through that revelation, that Jesus has taken on to be of a priceless value? He IS MY TREASURE IN HEAVEN! We’re to lay treasure up in heaven. Well, he is mine! Amen! It’s a wonderful thing to be settled. |
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Post by speak on Feb 13, 2020 19:05:44 GMT -5
Simply pointing out that we do not find those words in the Bible either. like i said weird |
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Post by reborn on Feb 13, 2020 19:07:01 GMT -5
Simply pointing out that we do not find those words in the Bible either. like i said weird Weird that we don’t find those words in the Bible? |
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Post by speak on Feb 13, 2020 19:07:10 GMT -5
You are starting to sound very bitter. Me, bitter? You call me bitter because I asked you simple question. What is wrong with you? No because of your angst against the ministry |
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Post by speak on Feb 13, 2020 19:09:55 GMT -5
Perhaps he means the word " Façade.'"
It basically mean a "false front" that means what a person shows that is not real or true.
Architecture.
~the front of a building, especially an imposing or decorative one.
any side of a building facing a public way or space and finished accordingly.
~a superficial appearance or illusion of something:
I already addressed that. Since Speak likes your post that’s what he meant. I still warn him about talking so negative and opposing to other people’s gifts from the HOLY SPIRIT. That’s skating RIGHT INTO BLASPHEMY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. Is that negativity and opposition the same you have to us about our gifts from the Holy Spirit? |
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Post by speak on Feb 13, 2020 19:11:59 GMT -5
Thanks couldn't quite get the spelling, we all make mistakes and those who don't don't make anything. I declare! With you Speak; it’s a case of damned if you do and damned if you don’t! I guessed at what you meant, but gave the courtesy of asking what the word meant IN CASE I WAS WRONG. But AGAIN, I warn you about blaspheming the gift of the Holy Spirit given to others. Do YOU know what having the indwelling Holy Spirit feels like? I’ve never heard one 2x2 describe it. Dare to give it a try? Is this like I still warn him about talking so negative and opposing to other people’s gifts from the HOLY SPIRIT? |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 13, 2020 19:18:11 GMT -5
Christians have two virtually insurmountable handicaps when it comes to understanding Jews and the OT: (1) They believe that "messiah" means "Christ" -- it's a total mistranslation by Christians. (2) They believe that "son of man" means "son of God" -- in Bible times they meant exactly what they were, either "of man" or "of god" but not both. No one is handicap who has the aid of the Holy Spirit. Can the Holy Spirit solve one's ignorance? |
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Post by reborn on Feb 13, 2020 19:26:26 GMT -5
No one is handicap who has the aid of the Holy Spirit. Can the Holy Spirit solve one's ignorance? Yes! I would say that it is the very answer to any ignorance. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 13, 2020 19:34:06 GMT -5
Can the Holy Spirit solve one's ignorance? Yes! I would says that it is the very answer to any ignorance. Well, that that does allow for a lot of utterly foolish religious pronouncements. |
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Post by reborn on Feb 13, 2020 19:38:55 GMT -5
Yes! I would says that it is the very answer to any ignorance. Well, that that does allow for a lot of utterly foolish religious pronouncements. Actually saves one from them! |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 13, 2020 19:46:34 GMT -5
Well, that that does allow for a lot of utterly foolish religious pronouncements. Actually saves one from them! So what might your ignorance have saved you from? |
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Post by snow on Feb 13, 2020 20:05:35 GMT -5
I think you all should just become atheists. Then you wouldn't have to argue about the same old stuff over and over again. When you're an atheist you get such a vast amount of things to argue about!  I think it's time for everyone to just say, lets agree to disagree. It's obvious that none of you are going to change your minds and some of you are resorting to saying others are wrong again. Not good for harmony. You're all Christians yet you fight like cats and dogs. Some of you drink your milk and other's cook your meat and make up! I really do think you're all giving God a massive headache...  |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 13, 2020 20:13:11 GMT -5
I already addressed that. Since Speak likes your post that’s what he meant. I still warn him about talking so negative and opposing to other people’s gifts from the HOLY SPIRIT. That’s skating RIGHT INTO BLASPHEMY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. Is that negativity and opposition the same you have to us about our gifts from the Holy Spirit? I have NO negativity nor opposition to whatever you have wherever you got it. I’ve only tried to share what has enriched my spiritual life and helped me get far more out of the scriptures. But UF you don’t want it, so be it! Btw, I still dare you to express in your own words how you know the Holy Spirit is indwelling. I’ve NEVER heard ONE 2x2 express anything about how they know ir feel the Holy Spirit! Please. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 13, 2020 20:17:49 GMT -5
I declare! With you Speak; it’s a case of damned if you do and damned if you don’t! I guessed at what you meant, but gave the courtesy of asking what the word meant IN CASE I WAS WRONG. But AGAIN, I warn you about blaspheming the gift of the Holy Spirit given to others. Do YOU know what having the indwelling Holy Spirit feels like? I’ve never heard one 2x2 describe it. Dare to give it a try? Is this like I still warn him about talking so negative and opposing to other people’s gifts from the HOLY SPIRIT?You sometimes say things in a way, I’m not used to and I’m not sure what you’re saying. And yes, I still mean it about speaking against other’s gifts from the Holy Spirit. But that has no bearing on what or how you know that the Holy Spirit is indwelling in you. I’m am very curious about that, because as I’ve said, I’ve never heard any 2x2 say one word about how the Holy Spirit feels or how they know he’s indwelling. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 13, 2020 20:19:59 GMT -5
I think you all should just become atheists. Then you wouldn't have to argue about the same old stuff over and over again. When you're an atheist you get such a vast amount of things to argue about! I think it's time for everyone to just say, lets agree to disagree. It's obvious that none of you are going to change your minds and some of you are resorting to saying others are wrong again. Not good for harmony. You're all Christians yet you fight like cats and dogs. Some of you drink your milk and other's cook your meat and make up! I really do think you're all giving God a massive headache... 😂 😆 😝🤣 |
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Post by nathan on Feb 13, 2020 20:23:29 GMT -5
Actually saves one from them! So what might your ignorance have saved you from? Christ/Jesus SAVED us from Hades/Realm of the dead and SECOND Death= to be cast in the Lake of fire for eternity. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 13, 2020 20:26:44 GMT -5
So what might your ignorance have saved you from? Christ/Jesus SAVED us from Hades/Realm of the dead and SECOND Death= to be cast in the Lake of fire for eternity. But you don't think you're ignorant -- reborn does. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 13, 2020 20:32:20 GMT -5
Christ/Jesus SAVED us from Hades/Realm of the dead and SECOND Death= to be cast in the Lake of fire for eternity. But you don't think you're ignorant -- reborn does. *** Tell me what Reborn and I are ignorant about? |
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I think it's time for everyone to just say, lets agree to disagree. It's obvious that none of you are going to change your minds and some of you are resorting to saying others are wrong again. Not good for harmony. You're all Christians yet you fight like cats and dogs. Some of you drink your milk and other's cook your meat and make up! I really do think you're all giving God a massive headache... 