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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 14:32:25 GMT -5
The evidence of God is all around us, creation and life itself shows us there has to be a greater mind behind it all. And God looks at the heart, only he knows the depths of a person's heart and only he can judge us. There may be evidence of God all around us but it is not evidence of the Christian God. While I fully accept your belief in your God and the fact the your God is very real to you, there is no evidence that the Christian God exists in reality. In the absence of evidence to the contrary the only reasonable conclusion one can come to is that your God only exists within you. There evidence of God that you claim is all around us is not evidence of an all knowing God. It is not evidence of a loving God or a just God or a God who can heal all ailments. It is not evidence of a God who can save your soul or can see what you get up to in the bedroom. It is not evidence of a God who cares whether you cut your hair or whether you have a television set or what sex the person is that you sleep with. It is not evidence of a God who resurrects people from the dead or who raises men up to heaven. It not evidence of a God who calls on people to sell all and go forth 2x2 to preach. It is not evidence of a God who looks on the heart and knows the depth of it. It is not evidence of your God. If there truly is a greater mind which is responsible for the creation of life and the wonder of the universe there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that this greater mind is the Christian God. A greater mind is not reduced to using an ass to communicate. A greater mind does not inspire an error ridden book filled with inconsistencies. A greater mind doesn’t make such a botched job of his creation that he has to drown practically all of them and start again. A greater mind does not advocate stoning non virgins. A greater mind does not instruct fallible men to spread word of it to all the world at a time when the only land transport available to them is the donkey. A greater mind who craves being worshiped doesn’t omit to provide any credible evidence of its existence. A greater mind doesn’t get angry with the flawed things he is responsible for creating. A greater mind who is responsible for the design of human beings doesn’t design them susceptible to things such as smallpox, cancer and fatal familial insomnia. Matt10 we should have a hilarious post of the week thread, this one would win hands down....
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Post by Annan on Aug 2, 2020 15:10:04 GMT -5
TIME is SHORT and Satan KNOWS it so, he wants to kill millions with the deadly Viruses, cancer, diseases and with all kinds of illnesses. Attachment Deleted
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Post by maryhig on Aug 2, 2020 15:20:43 GMT -5
The evidence of God is all around us, creation and life itself shows us there has to be a greater mind behind it all. And God looks at the heart, only he knows the depths of a person's heart and only he can judge us. There may be evidence of God all around us but it is not evidence of the Christian God. While I fully accept your belief in your God and the fact the your God is very real to you, there is no evidence that the Christian God exists in reality. In the absence of evidence to the contrary the only reasonable conclusion one can come to is that your God only exists within you. There evidence of God that you claim is all around us is not evidence of an all knowing God. It is not evidence of a loving God or a just God or a God who can heal all ailments. It is not evidence of a God who can save your soul or can see what you get up to in the bedroom. It is not evidence of a God who cares whether you cut your hair or whether you have a television set or what sex the person is that you sleep with. It is not evidence of a God who resurrects people from the dead or who raises men up to heaven. It not evidence of a God who calls on people to sell all and go forth 2x2 to preach. It is not evidence of a God who looks on the heart and knows the depth of it. It is not evidence of your God. If there truly is a greater mind which is responsible for the creation of life and the wonder of the universe there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that this greater mind is the Christian God. A greater mind is not reduced to using an ass to communicate. A greater mind does not inspire an error ridden book filled with inconsistencies. A greater mind doesn’t make such a botched job of his creation that he has to drown practically all of them and start again. A greater mind does not advocate stoning non virgins. A greater mind does not instruct fallible men to spread word of it to all the world at a time when the only land transport available to them is the donkey. A greater mind who craves being worshiped doesn’t omit to provide any credible evidence of its existence. A greater mind doesn’t get angry with the flawed things he is responsible for creating. A greater mind who is responsible for the design of human beings doesn’t design them susceptible to things such as smallpox, cancer and fatal familial insomnia. Matt10 That's your opinion, but I know God exists!
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Post by ForeverFree on Aug 2, 2020 16:17:02 GMT -5
You sound like one of those crazy people standing on a street corner. Oh, I guess in your case it's a gas station. ** I preach/teach anywhere and everywhere people want to hear as my God and Lord Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit lead me to. TIME is SHORT and Satan KNOWS it so, he wants to kill millions with the deadly Viruses, cancer, diseases and with all kinds of illnesses. Be in time, foreverfree, Curly... Before your time and opportunity to REPENT are over/gone forever. Thanks Nathan! That was worth a good laugh!!
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Post by nathan on Aug 2, 2020 16:20:06 GMT -5
** I preach/teach anywhere and everywhere people want to hear as my God and Lord Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit lead me to. TIME is SHORT and Satan KNOWS it so, he wants to kill millions with the deadly Viruses, cancer, diseases and with all kinds of illnesses. Be in time, foreverfree, Curly... Before your time and opportunity to REPENT are over/gone forever. Thanks Nathan! That was worth a good laugh!! *** You can laugh all you want now... But the day is coming you, and all unbelievers will bow and confess Jesus Christ is the LORD God of all Creation. If you bow now and confess Jesus Christ is your Savior you will receive eternal life and will NOT DIE the SECOND DEATH that is eternal separation from God's presence forever. If you were forced to bow at judgment day, then there is no eternal life granted. So, it is better to bow and confess your sins now.
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Post by ForeverFree on Aug 2, 2020 16:31:27 GMT -5
Thanks Nathan! That was worth a good laugh!! *** You can laugh all you want now... But the day is coming you, and all unbelievers will bow and confess Jesus Christ is the LORD God of all Creation. I don't need your permission to laugh. I live in a free country, where everyone has the fundamental freedoms of conscience and religion, thoughts and beliefs.So don't tell me what I need to believe, and as long as you try to shove YOUR religious beliefs down my throat, I will shove them right back down your throat until you gag on them and make yourself so sick you vomit.
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Post by nathan on Aug 2, 2020 16:45:09 GMT -5
*** You can laugh all you want now... But the day is coming you, and all unbelievers will bow and confess Jesus Christ is the LORD God of all Creation. I don't need your permission to laugh. I live in a free country, where everyone has the fundamental freedoms of conscience and religion, thoughts and beliefs.So don't tell me what I need to believe, and as long as you try to shove YOUR religious beliefs down my throat, I will shove them right back down your throat until you gag on them and make yourself so sick you vomit. ** Well, in the judgment Day don't say I didn't warn you. You will DIE in your own sins if you don't REPENT and turn and look to Jesus who died for your sins.
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 2, 2020 17:29:04 GMT -5
There may be evidence of God all around us but it is not evidence of the Christian God. While I fully accept your belief in your God and the fact the your God is very real to you, there is no evidence that the Christian God exists in reality. In the absence of evidence to the contrary the only reasonable conclusion one can come to is that your God only exists within you. There evidence of God that you claim is all around us is not evidence of an all knowing God. It is not evidence of a loving God or a just God or a God who can heal all ailments . It is not evidence of a God who can save your soul or can see what you get up to in the bedroom. It is not evidence of a God who cares whether you cut your hair or whether you have a television set or what sex the person is that you sleep with. It is not evidence of a God who resurrects people from the dead or who raises men up to heaven. It not evidence of a God who calls on people to sell all and go forth 2x2 to preach. It is not evidence of a God who looks on the heart and knows the depth of it. It is not evidence of your God. If there truly is a greater mind which is responsible for the creation of life and the wonder of the universe there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that this greater mind is the Christian God. A greater mind is not reduced to using an ass to communicate. A greater mind does not inspire an error ridden book filled with inconsistencies. A greater mind doesn’t make such a botched job of his creation that he has to drown practically all of them and start again. A greater mind does not advocate stoning non virgins. A greater mind does not instruct fallible men to spread word of it to all the world at a time when the only land transport available to them is the donkey. A greater mind who craves being worshiped doesn’t omit to provide any credible evidence of its existence. A greater mind doesn’t get angry with the flawed things he is responsible for creating. A greater mind who is responsible for the design of human beings doesn’t design them susceptible to things such as smallpox, cancer and fatal familial insomnia. Matt10 That's your opinion, but I know God exists! Maryhig, -Matt was very polite in his reply to you by saying; "While I fully accept your belief in your God and the fact the your God is very real to you...,"
Then he patiently explained to you in a in-depth statement his own belief.
Can't you answer him in the same polite manner instead of saying it is his "opinion?"
I am fairly sure that you don't think of your own belief as just an "opinion."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 17:35:51 GMT -5
I don't need your permission to laugh. I live in a free country, where everyone has the fundamental freedoms of conscience and religion, thoughts and beliefs.So don't tell me what I need to believe, and as long as you try to shove YOUR religious beliefs down my throat, I will shove them right back down your throat until you gag on them and make yourself so sick you vomit. ** Well, in the judgment Day don't say I didn't warn you. You will DIE in your own sins if you don't REPENT and turn and look to Jesus who died for your sins. Actually, the Muslims are right, so you're going to burn, Nathan. Bummer for you, but I did try to warn you. Just remember that...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 18:01:18 GMT -5
** Well, in the judgment Day don't say I didn't warn you. You will DIE in your own sins if you don't REPENT and turn and look to Jesus who died for your sins. Actually, the Muslims are right, so you're going to burn, Nathan. Bummer for you, but I did try to warn you. Just remember that... uh oh...then you better change your avatar to a mosque because if you try to put up a rendition of mohammad we all know what will happen then yes?
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 2, 2020 18:06:42 GMT -5
There may be evidence of God all around us but it is not evidence of the Christian God. While I fully accept your belief in your God and the fact the your God is very real to you, there is no evidence that the Christian God exists in reality. In the absence of evidence to the contrary the only reasonable conclusion one can come to is that your God only exists within you. There evidence of God that you claim is all around us is not evidence of an all knowing God. It is not evidence of a loving God or a just God or a God who can heal all ailments. It is not evidence of a God who can save your soul or can see what you get up to in the bedroom. It is not evidence of a God who cares whether you cut your hair or whether you have a television set or what sex the person is that you sleep with. It is not evidence of a God who resurrects people from the dead or who raises men up to heaven. It not evidence of a God who calls on people to sell all and go forth 2x2 to preach. It is not evidence of a God who looks on the heart and knows the depth of it. It is not evidence of your God. If there truly is a greater mind which is responsible for the creation of life and the wonder of the universe there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that this greater mind is the Christian God. A greater mind is not reduced to using an ass to communicate. A greater mind does not inspire an error ridden book filled with inconsistencies. A greater mind doesn’t make such a botched job of his creation that he has to drown practically all of them and start again. A greater mind does not advocate stoning non virgins. A greater mind does not instruct fallible men to spread word of it to all the world at a time when the only land transport available to them is the donkey. A greater mind who craves being worshiped doesn’t omit to provide any credible evidence of its existence. A greater mind doesn’t get angry with the flawed things he is responsible for creating. A greater mind who is responsible for the design of human beings doesn’t design them susceptible to things such as smallpox, cancer and fatal familial insomnia. Matt10 we should have a hilarious post of the week thread, this one would win hands down.... Wally, did you ever consider that you only think that way because you, -unlike Matt., -haven't put your own ability to use your brain to it's fullest use?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 18:11:07 GMT -5
we should have a hilarious post of the week thread, this one would win hands down.... Wally, did you ever consider that you only think that way because you, -unlike Matt., -haven't put your own ability to use your brain to it's fullest use? have you ever considered that you only think that way because you are projecting your own difficulty using your own brain?
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Post by ForeverFree on Aug 2, 2020 18:30:18 GMT -5
I don't need your permission to laugh. I live in a free country, where everyone has the fundamental freedoms of conscience and religion, thoughts and beliefs.So don't tell me what I need to believe, and as long as you try to shove YOUR religious beliefs down my throat, I will shove them right back down your throat until you gag on them and make yourself so sick you vomit. ** Well, in the judgment Day don't say I didn't warn you. You will DIE in your own sins if you don't REPENT and turn and look to Jesus who died for your sins. Why would I think of you on your judgement day? Mind your own business, you've got enough issues of your own to worry about.
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 2, 2020 18:36:03 GMT -5
Wally, did you ever consider that you only think that way because you, -unlike Matt., -haven't put your own ability to use your brain to it's fullest use? have you ever considered that you only think that way because you are projecting your own difficulty using your own brain? No, -wally, -I have no "difficulty" using my own brain.
I had to learn to use to use my own brain a long time ago when I finally realized there were people like yourself who really did not know "sh-t from shinola shoe polish!"
Yet, they thought that THEY knew best what I should do! Something that they themselves would never had have been willing to do if they were in my situation!
PS: Hey? Aren't you getting kind of stuck on this "projection" notion?
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 2, 2020 18:59:30 GMT -5
I expect that you were, as was I, given these arguments of proof by someone else before you ever needed to use them yourself. The proof I've had are things I've seen for myself, not what others have told me. What have you seen that any non-believer has NOT also seen?
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Post by nathan on Aug 2, 2020 19:09:23 GMT -5
** Well, in the judgment Day don't say I didn't warn you. You will DIE in your own sins if you don't REPENT and turn and look to Jesus who died for your sins. Actually, the Muslims are right, so you're going to burn, Nathan. Bummer for you, but I did try to warn you. Just remember that... ** You and the Muslims are welcome to believe that. However, I believe my God/Savior and creator of all things, Christ Jesus words when he said he that believes in me and my words shall have ETERNAL/Everlasting life and there is no burning in the flames for eternity. However, the unbelievers will get what they deserve by NOT believing in the ONLY God/Christ who died and Saved us sinners humans.
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Post by joanna on Aug 2, 2020 19:15:09 GMT -5
maryhig. If you dismiss that we cannot appear from nothing, it makes no sense that you believe in a god who 'appeared from nothing'. And no informed person promotes the belief that humans appeared from nothing anyway. Evolution is the explanation for our 'appearance'. In the quest to determine the origins of the universe(s), the god of the gaps 'non-answer' only complicates: God of the gaps (or a divine fallacy) is a logical fallacy that occurs when believers invoke Goddidit (or a variant) in order to account for some natural phenomena that science cannot (at the time of the argument) explain. This concept resembles what systems theorists[1] refer to as an "explanatory principle".[2] "God of the gaps" is a bad argument not only on logical grounds, but on empirical grounds: there is a long history of "gaps" being filled and the remaining gaps for God thus getting smaller and smaller, suggesting "we don't know yet" as an alternative that works better in practice; naturalistic explanations for still-mysterious phenomena always remain possible, especially in the future where research may uncover more information.[3]
Invoking a God of the Gaps is a didit fallacy and an ad hoc fallacy, as well as an argument from incredulity or an argument from ignorance, and is thus an informal fallacy. rationalwiki.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps#cite_note-Lindsay-3
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Aug 2, 2020 19:29:56 GMT -5
If creation is an example of harmony can you tell TMB how something such as COVID 19 is in harmony with humans? Covid-19 created by Evil men/children of Satan and NOT by God. Satan and his EVIL children purpose are to depopulation and kill many as possible so, they have no chance in hearing the gospel and REPENT of their sins. Satan KNOWS his time is short, he wants to take many/millions lives ASAP. He is reap the harvest of UNBELIEVERS souls around the now... You might be NEXT, Curly.
That's as silly as your above ground caves and hollow earth rubbish. What is true is that you will rot away when you die until there is nothing left.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 20:04:40 GMT -5
have you ever considered that you only think that way because you are projecting your own difficulty using your own brain? No, -wally, -I have no "difficulty" using my own brain.
I had to learn to use to use my own brain a long time ago when I finally realized there were people like yourself who really did not know "sh-t from shinola shoe polish!"
Yet, they thought that THEY knew best what I should do! Something that they themselves would never had have been willing to do if they were in my situation!
PS: Hey? Aren't you getting kind of stuck on this "projection" notion?that is not what i've observed from your posts...
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Post by nathan on Aug 2, 2020 20:17:39 GMT -5
Covid-19 created by Evil men/children of Satan and NOT by God. Satan and his EVIL children purpose are to depopulation and kill many as possible so, they have no chance in hearing the gospel and REPENT of their sins. Satan KNOWS his time is short, he wants to take many/millions lives ASAP. He is reap the harvest of UNBELIEVERS souls around the now... You might be NEXT, Curly.
That's as silly as your above ground caves and hollow earth rubbish. What is true is that you will rot away when you die until there is nothing left. *** I showed you many pictures of above ground caves, didn't you remember? You said there was no caves above the ground. There are people who entered and saw the hollow earth themselves. You didn't read their testimonies?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 21:14:03 GMT -5
Actually, the Muslims are right, so you're going to burn, Nathan. Bummer for you, but I did try to warn you. Just remember that... uh oh...then you better change your avatar to a mosque because if you try to put up a rendition of mohammad we all know what will happen then yes? I've thought that to a Muslim, a black piece of paper would be offensive. Mohammad's brain, after all.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Aug 3, 2020 0:08:12 GMT -5
That's as silly as your above ground caves and hollow earth rubbish. What is true is that you will rot away when you die until there is nothing left. *** I showed you many pictures of above ground caves, didn't you remember? You said there was no caves above the ground. There are people who entered and saw the hollow earth themselves. You didn't read their testimonies? Your photos were not worth a roll of loo paper. The testimonies you mention are lies which only gullible fools like yourself believe.
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Post by ForeverFree on Aug 3, 2020 0:27:38 GMT -5
Actually, the Muslims are right, so you're going to burn, Nathan. Bummer for you, but I did try to warn you. Just remember that... ** You and the Muslims are welcome to believe that. However, I believe my God/Savior and creator of all things, Christ Jesus words when he said he that believes in me and my words shall have ETERNAL/Everlasting life and there is no burning in the flames for eternity. However, the unbelievers will get what they deserve by NOT believing in the ONLY God/Christ who died and Saved us sinners humans. You say ipsedixit and Muslims are welcome to believe that, then you turn and say they will get what they deserve for believing that. So obviously you are lying when you say they are welcome to believe it. You are a liar and a cheat. You continuously contradict yourself. You really don't know how to talk to people unless they agree with you. YOU don't KNOW or UNDERSTAND of these things.You're not as smart as you think you are.
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Post by ForeverFree on Aug 3, 2020 0:49:43 GMT -5
However, the unbelievers will get what they deserve by NOT believing in the ONLY God/Christ who died and Saved us sinners humans. I wonder what you will do on your judgement day that you talk about. I can just picture it. Laughing their heads off as they see you coming up to the pearly gates, then shut doors in your face. You will get what you deserve!! Such a fool.
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Post by Pragmatic on Aug 3, 2020 1:17:24 GMT -5
There is NO hollow-earth. Blimey, on the deep bore project, the Russians only got to about 12kms (Kola Bore hole) and the intense heat ruined the drilling equipment. And the resident hollow-earther on here has obviously not seen how thin the crust is in Rotorua, or felt the heat from Pohutu at Whakarewarewa.
The TBN network ran with the story about what the Russians were doing and someone came up with idea that they had drilled through into a large cavern and discovered Hell. Supposed recordings taken from the well were in fact various sound effects looped together onto a tape, and used in the Baron Blood 1972 movie. Of course the story was widely discredited and the only thing found was some water deeper that what they expected, and some Plankton.
It does take a certain type of gullible to run with the story these Pentecostals invented for their own spurious use.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Aug 3, 2020 1:42:00 GMT -5
There is NO hollow-earth. Blimey, on the deep bore project, the Russians only got to about 12kms (Kola Bore hole) and the intense heat ruined the drilling equipment. And the resident hollow-earther on here has obviously not seen how thin the crust is in Rotorua, or felt the heat from Pohutu at Whakarewarewa. The TBN network ran with the story about what the Russians were doing and someone came up with idea that they had drilled through into a large cavern and discovered Hell. Supposed recordings taken from the well were in fact various sound effects looped together onto a tape, and used in the Baron Blood 1972 movie. Of course the story was widely discredited and the only thing found was some water deeper that what they expected, and some Plankton. It does take a certain type of gullible to run with the story these Pentecostals invented for their own spurious use. There's a couple of possibilities for a bit of hell on earth. Taupo goes boom. Yellowstone goes boom. (That would make COVID 19 look like a sniffle) Various other American super volcanoes. Lake Toba, Indonesia.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 2:07:28 GMT -5
There is NO hollow-earth. Blimey, on the deep bore project, the Russians only got to about 12kms (Kola Bore hole) and the intense heat ruined the drilling equipment. And the resident hollow-earther on here has obviously not seen how thin the crust is in Rotorua, or felt the heat from Pohutu at Whakarewarewa. The TBN network ran with the story about what the Russians were doing and someone came up with idea that they had drilled through into a large cavern and discovered Hell. Supposed recordings taken from the well were in fact various sound effects looped together onto a tape, and used in the Baron Blood 1972 movie. Of course the story was widely discredited and the only thing found was some water deeper that what they expected, and some Plankton. It does take a certain type of gullible to run with the story these Pentecostals invented for their own spurious use. There's a couple of possibilities for a bit of hell on earth. Taupo goes boom. Yellowstone goes boom. (That would make COVID 19 look like a sniffle) Various other American super volcanoes. Lake Toba, Indonesia. Hey Curly, I want to sleep tonight.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Aug 3, 2020 2:14:31 GMT -5
There's a couple of possibilities for a bit of hell on earth. Taupo goes boom. Yellowstone goes boom. (That would make COVID 19 look like a sniffle) Various other American super volcanoes. Lake Toba, Indonesia. Hey Curly, I want to sleep tonight. It's easy enough to tell when a Taupo eruption is going to happen. Loads of GNS scientists come to town. Then the price of real estate plummets. The first cars out of town are the real estate agents. Just keep an eye out for the above signs.
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