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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 8, 2020 22:41:56 GMT -5
NOPE. WRONG AGAIN NATHAN...... NO CHRIST, NO HEAVEN. NO ETERNITY. NO HELL. Your beliefs are based on the vain imaginations of a people who want to live forever. When you die you are dead. And going to rot away just like I will. Well, After death you will find out the TRUTH, your body goes back to the dust but your soul lives on in HADES! waiting there for a long, long time before you stand before God and Christ to be sentenced and cast in the LAKE of fire for eternity.
Remember, don't say nobody has warned you about the miserable, regrets of what could have enjoyed for Eternity instead living in a HELL hole place in Hades/realm of the dead! until the judgement day you must face God and Christ face to face to be sentenced where you will spend the rest of your life for eternity.
The myth you believe in is the foolish imagination of a bunch of goatherders.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 22:45:44 GMT -5
Well, After death you will find out the TRUTH, your body goes back to the dust but your soul lives on in HADES! waiting there for a long, long time before you stand before God and Christ to be sentenced and cast in the LAKE of fire for eternity.
Remember, don't say nobody has warned you about the miserable, regrets of what could have enjoyed for Eternity instead living in a HELL hole place in Hades/realm of the dead! until the judgement day you must face God and Christ face to face to be sentenced where you will spend the rest of your life for eternity.
The myth you believe in is the foolish imagination of a bunch of goatherders. everytime you spew i think of this verse: Mat_12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. and this verse: Gal_6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
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Post by nathan on Jan 8, 2020 22:59:27 GMT -5
Well, After death you will find out the TRUTH, your body goes back to the dust but your soul lives on in HADES! waiting there for a long, long time before you stand before God and Christ to be sentenced and cast in the LAKE of fire for eternity.
Remember, don't say nobody has warned you about the miserable, regrets of what could have enjoyed for Eternity instead living in a HELL hole place in Hades/realm of the dead! until the judgement day you must face God and Christ face to face to be sentenced where you will spend the rest of your life for eternity.
And from what the prophets and seers are saying that day is faster approaching. Amen. We hope and pray that many atheists on here will have change of hearts so, we can sit in our new earth and heaven home and say, Hey! remember those good old days on TMB, how we fight like dogs and cats.
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Post by nathan on Jan 8, 2020 23:03:33 GMT -5
The myth you believe in is the foolish imagination of a bunch of goatherders. everytime you spew i think of this verse: Mat_12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. and this verse: Gal_6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Amen, Wally... And these words of Jesus, he said Matthew 12:37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 8, 2020 23:06:17 GMT -5
The myth you believe in is the foolish imagination of a bunch of goatherders. everytime you spew i think of this verse: Mat_12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. and this verse: Gal_6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Sorry, wally, I know that must be distressing to you. But you can't ignore the truth.
Curly is right, you know. Think about when that was recorded.
It was in the history of mankind when that is exactly what the people were. It was Just after when they were hunters & gathers of the animals & plants they could find as they roamed the land and had settled down in one area to have herds of animals & plant crops of their own.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 9, 2020 0:22:26 GMT -5
You missed the important word "if". I’m not going to hell. No “if” to it! I know in whom I believe! You're like having a discussion with my deaf grandmother.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 0:57:09 GMT -5
everytime you spew i think of this verse: Mat_12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. and this verse: Gal_6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Sorry, wally, I know that must be distressing to you. But you can't ignore the truth.
Curly is right, you know. Think about when that was recorded.
It was in the history of mankind when that is exactly what the people were. It was Just after when they were hunters & gathers of the animals & plants they could find as they roamed the land and had settled down in one area to have herds of animals & plant crops of their own.
those two verses couldn't be more true than they are now....time will tell....
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 9, 2020 1:01:50 GMT -5
Sorry, wally, I know that must be distressing to you. But you can't ignore the truth.
Curly is right, you know. Think about when that was recorded.
It was in the history of mankind when that is exactly what the people were. It was Just after when they were hunters & gathers of the animals & plants they could find as they roamed the land and had settled down in one area to have herds of animals & plant crops of their own.
those two verses couldn't be more true than they are now....time will tell.... Time tells us lots of truths. None of which align with what is said in the bible.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 1:10:31 GMT -5
those two verses couldn't be more true than they are now....time will tell.... Time tells us lots of truths. None of which align with what is said in the bible. tick tock tick tock...
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 9, 2020 1:23:23 GMT -5
I’m not going to hell. No “if” to it! I know in whom I believe! You're like having a discussion with my deaf grandmother. She probably had heard it all, also! 😊
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Post by benar on Jan 9, 2020 2:27:51 GMT -5
Trouble is we have absolutely zero proof that Jesus was anything other than a zealous man. What he said does not equate with reality as it's observed. You MUST trust in Jesus words, teachings... HE is your Creator and Your ONLY Hope of Salvation. You either bow now and receive Eternal life or Bow later by force and face the Second death yourself.
Philippians 2:5-12 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.But, Nathan... Anyone can claim/preach their church is the TRUE church by quoting the Bible verses...
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Post by benar on Jan 9, 2020 2:40:50 GMT -5
You missed the important word "if". I’m not going to hell. No “if” to it! I know in whom I believe! Apologies if you feel I'm being impatient, but I don't think you've answered my question: Why do you feel you are not going to Islamic hell? After-all if you don't believe in the Islamic intricacies of god, they have scripture and revelation to back up their assertion of where you will spend eternity.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 9, 2020 3:28:45 GMT -5
You're like having a discussion with my deaf grandmother. She probably had heard it all, also! 😊 Actually she didn't know what she had missed.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 9, 2020 3:52:58 GMT -5
Sorry, wally, I know that must be distressing to you. But you can't ignore the truth.
Curly is right, you know. Think about when that was recorded.
It was in the history of mankind when that is exactly what the people were. It was Just after when they were hunters & gathers of the animals & plants they could find as they roamed the land and had settled down in one area to have herds of animals & plant crops of their own.
those two verses couldn't be more true than they are now....time will tell.... Please tell me what is happening right now that makes you think that those two verses "couldn't be more true than they are now.." In some detail please.
Mat_12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment." Gal_6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 3:58:08 GMT -5
those two verses couldn't be more true than they are now....time will tell.... those two verses couldn't be more true than they are now....time will tell.... Please tell me what is happening right now that makes you think that those two verses "couldn't be more true than they are now.." In some detail please.
Mat_12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment." Gal_6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.not only is it a prediction of things to come its also a prediction that people like curlytroll will exist in the future from the time of the quote....
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Post by benar on Jan 9, 2020 5:35:32 GMT -5
Please tell me what is happening right now that makes you think that those two verses "couldn't be more true than they are now.." In some detail please.
Mat_12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment." Gal_6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. not only is it a prediction of things to come its also a prediction that people like curlytroll will exist in the future from the time of the quote.... All that is required to make such a prediction is a knowledge of human behaviour. This is why things like this are not considered prophecy.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 9, 2020 10:33:46 GMT -5
I’m not going to hell. No “if” to it! I know in whom I believe! Apologies if you feel I'm being impatient, but I don't think you've answered my question: Why do you feel you are not going to Islamic hell? After-all if you don't believe in the Islamic intricacies of god, they have scripture and revelation to back up their assertion of where you will spend eternity. As Bob said, the Islamic God is the God of Abraham and the Jewish God is the God of Abraham. I worship the same God as the Jews do, thus It can be said I worship the same God the Islam’s do. So thereby I go to neither hell.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 9, 2020 10:35:12 GMT -5
not only is it a prediction of things to come its also a prediction that people like curlytroll will exist in the future from the time of the quote.... All that is required to make such a prediction is a knowledge of human behaviour. This is why things like this are not considered prophecy. Awww, but you interpret that as in this life, the Bible interprets that for eternity.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 9, 2020 10:41:33 GMT -5
She probably had heard it all, also! 😊 Actually she didn't know what she had missed. Sometimes deaf people have selective hearing, you know.
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Post by snow on Jan 9, 2020 13:50:46 GMT -5
Your God is everything so why would Satan be the sinking ship? satan likes and has the power to mess things up.... You still have not explained how come God states we have to do a bunch of thing to be saved and then if we don't we go to hell. That is extortion. It's like someone on the street aiming a gun at my head saying I have to hand over my purse or he will shoot me. I don't have a choice that is done with free will. I have to do it or I die. Same with your God. We have to do what he wants or we're tortured for eternity. But your God is just one of many Gods that are telling me the same thing. Worship them or go to their version of punishment for eternity. You don't give someone free will then make it so that when they choose the wrong thing they get punished. That's not free will, it's extortion. And which hell am I supposed to try and avoid? Don't you see why it's all so ambiguous? That it's just not probable that there are Gods, hells etc? A Muslim believes just as genuinely about Allah and avoiding Muslim hell as you are genuine about believing in Yahweh and the Yahweh hell. But in all likelihood one of you is choosing the wrong god, or in my world, believing in something that does not exist at all.
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Post by snow on Jan 9, 2020 13:54:19 GMT -5
If I said Allah appeared to me would you believe me? Of course we're skeptical. I do believe that you are telling the truth as you saw it. I just don't believe your interpretation of what you saw is one I can accept. But I believe you are being honest and that you do believe that what you say you saw is the truth for you. If you said Allah appeared to you, I’d likely get excited and want to know what he looked like. Though if Allah is the same as my God, you shouldn’t be alive after seeing him. That’s what some have said to me, that If I saw Jesus I wouldnt have lived. But the point is it was Jesus, the SON OF GOD that I saw and not the Father. Jesus has appeared to some throughout the ages, and they lived to tell the story. And I think that’s why they lived. How can it be different if Jesus is God in your mind? If you can see Jesus and live then he is not God as the trinity states. Either that or they are truly 3 separate gods and Jesus is a lessor god to the father god. But that's polytheism, just like polytheists pointed out 2000 years ago. Christians are the ones that turned Yahweh into 3 and then still tried to assert that they were monotheists.
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Post by snow on Jan 9, 2020 13:56:37 GMT -5
Trouble is we have absolutely zero proof that Jesus was anything other than a zealous man. What he said does not equate with reality as it's observed. You MUST trust in Jesus words, teachings... HE is your Creator and Your ONLY Hope of Salvation. You either bow now and receive Eternal life or Bow later by force and face the Second death yourself.
Philippians 2:5-12 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.WHY? Why must I trust what a man said 2000 years ago? There is no reason to believe him anymore than there is reason to believe Krishna, Allah, Thor, and all the other gods that have been imagined by mankind. None Nathan.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 9, 2020 14:14:13 GMT -5
If you said Allah appeared to you, I’d likely get excited and want to know what he looked like. Though if Allah is the same as my God, you shouldn’t be alive after seeing him. That’s what some have said to me, that If I saw Jesus I wouldnt have lived. But the point is it was Jesus, the SON OF GOD that I saw and not the Father. Jesus has appeared to some throughout the ages, and they lived to tell the story. And I think that’s why they lived. How can it be different if Jesus is God in your mind? If you can see Jesus and live then he is not God as the trinity states. Either that or they are truly 3 separate gods and Jesus is a lessor god to the father god. But that's polytheism, just like polytheists pointed out 2000 years ago. Christians are the ones that turned Yahweh into 3 and then still tried to assert that they were monotheists. You truly do not understand the Trinity. When the Son of God lived in the body of Jesus the Son of man, many people saw him and lived. And many knew he declared himself to be equal to God or the Son of God because that’s why the Jews sought to kill him and it is why the chief priest ordered his death.
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Post by snow on Jan 9, 2020 14:17:10 GMT -5
Actually she didn't know what she had missed. Sometimes deaf people have selective hearing, you know. NO!!! bite your tongue. I do not have selective hearing...
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Post by snow on Jan 9, 2020 14:18:09 GMT -5
How can it be different if Jesus is God in your mind? If you can see Jesus and live then he is not God as the trinity states. Either that or they are truly 3 separate gods and Jesus is a lessor god to the father god. But that's polytheism, just like polytheists pointed out 2000 years ago. Christians are the ones that turned Yahweh into 3 and then still tried to assert that they were monotheists. You truly do not understand the Trinity. When the Son of God lived in the body of Jesus the Son of man, many people saw him and lived. And many knew he declared himself to be equal to God or the Son of God because that’s why the Jews sought to kill him and it is why the chief priest ordered his death. There is a reason why really nobody understands the trinity. It doesn't make rational sense that three people are actually one person.
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Post by speak on Jan 9, 2020 14:42:24 GMT -5
She probably had heard it all, also! 😊 Actually she didn't know what she had missed. Probably just as well, she'd have peace that way.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 9, 2020 15:03:52 GMT -5
Sometimes deaf people have selective hearing, you know. NO!!! bite your tongue. I do not have selective hearing... Awww now! I did say sometimes! 😀 Worked with a GP in surgery on occasion. He supposedly was deaf. His partner would assist him and on occasion his partner would say something to me in a lower normal tone, and li and behold before I could say anything, the deaf surgeon would say something about what we were talking about. But then try to say something loud to the deaf doctor and he’d would say repeat that! So the anesthesiologist just up and said “Ben, you’ve got selective hearing!” Of course, everyone laughed, even Ben!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 9, 2020 15:06:35 GMT -5
You truly do not understand the Trinity. When the Son of God lived in the body of Jesus the Son of man, many people saw him and lived. And many knew he declared himself to be equal to God or the Son of God because that’s why the Jews sought to kill him and it is why the chief priest ordered his death. There is a reason why really nobody understands the trinity. It doesn't make rational sense that three people are actually one person. I agree the Catholic explanation is confusing. But after I read in the NIV bible that said in Phillipians 2:6 that Jesus was in very nature, God... I got a better understanding of how the Trinity really is.
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