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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 9, 2019 20:44:47 GMT -5
Peter said in Acts 2:38 Repent , and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 9, 2019 21:21:44 GMT -5
John the Baptist wasn't the only or the first person to baptize people. It was a ritual practiced previously by some others, but I've never learned exactly who they were.
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Post by matisse on Dec 9, 2019 22:12:54 GMT -5
It wouldn’t be a Trinity. Well at the time it would have been a trinity -- before the Holy Spirit was recognized as the third party with the father and the son. Isn't Shekinah a reference to a feminine presence of God?
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 9, 2019 22:30:52 GMT -5
Well at the time it would have been a trinity -- before the Holy Spirit was recognized as the third party with the father and the son. Isn't Shekinah a reference to a feminine presence of God? I've not heard that, but I always thought it was a funny word. Just a thought here: In most languages that Jewish/Hebrew language morphed through all nouns get to be considered either masculine or feminine. German has the luxury of having a neuter category, but like the masc. and fem. categories it has virtually nothing to do with male or female really. It's just a linguists grammarian's guess that someone once said that Shekinah is feminine.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 9, 2019 23:53:56 GMT -5
Except when she's the "neck" of the Body of Christ, of which we are all members.....as stated by sharingrheriches then if course we have the anatomical problem of everything having to pass through her to sustain life🙅♀️ Why o' why can't people keep things simple? The more you complicate things, the more complicated they become. Why deny that God the Father has the ability to raise up a human being Messiah, who is 100% obedient to his will, just as he promised the prophets he would do? Because bats are not birds and palms are not trees. If your mythology cannot get the easy stuff right then what makes you think the tricky stuff like virgin birth is correct.
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Post by nathan on Dec 10, 2019 0:01:43 GMT -5
Actually no -- the first century fathers did not have the Holy Spirit as part of a trinity.
That was not officially the case until it was included at the Council of Nicea. It was the case that the early Pagan Jesus followers did want to worship a "mother of god" as they did in Pagan religions, and the church for a couple of centuries resisted that. BTW, the concept of a "trinity" came from Paganism as well. The concept of a "holy spirit" was foreign to Jews, who believed in nothing more than "doing" the right things, all of which were known of dictated by the prophets. Baptizing them in the name of The father, the son, and the Holy Ghost. It’s there in the Mathew 28. Here is another two awesome verses for the TRINITY/Triune God, reborn. ... John the apostle wrote in II John 5:7-8 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one in agreement. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
BobW. doesn't KNOW what he is talking about. The TRINITY- Father, Christ and Holy Spirit are ETERNAL... pagans trinity started by the pagans and their trinity gods started 6000 yrs ago. It was the pagans/Satan/Fallen angels copied the trinity concepts from the Godhead.
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Post by Roselyn T on Dec 10, 2019 0:06:13 GMT -5
Baptizing them in the name of The father, the son, and the Holy Ghost. It’s there in the Mathew. Here is another two awesome verses for the TRINITY/Triune God, reborn. ... John the apostle wrote in II John 5:7-8 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one in agreement. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
BobW. doesn't KNOW what he is talking about.
But of course nathan does !!!
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Post by mountain on Dec 10, 2019 4:17:20 GMT -5
Are we talking about what scripture actually and unequivocally states, or are we talking about what you read into the text? Care for another attempt? I’m through with you. That answer tells its own story. May yer lum always reek!
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Post by howitis on Dec 10, 2019 4:24:35 GMT -5
Except when she's the "neck" of the Body of Christ, of which we are all members.....as stated by sharingrheriches then if course we have the anatomical problem of everything having to pass through her to sustain life🙅♀️ I didn’t state that! You best recant that! I-QUOTED THAT FROM A CATHOLIC SITE. May God have mercy in your lying soul! 😖 My sincerest apologies, I hope my edit satisfies you.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 10, 2019 10:30:12 GMT -5
I didn’t state that! You best recant that! I-QUOTED THAT FROM A CATHOLIC SITE. May God have mercy in your lying soul! 😖 My sincerest apologies, I hope my edit satisfies you. Thank you! I don’t believe that quote btw. I already quoted the verses about what Jesus said to the woman who tried to venerate his mother and he would have no part of it.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 10, 2019 10:33:53 GMT -5
That answer tells its own story. May yer lum always reek! Please listen to Amir Tsarfati’s “Immanuel” speech, maybe a hardheaded Jew turned Christian can help a hard headed Scot to come to understand that it took far more then a perfect man’s sacrifice to redeem many sinners. beholdisrael.org/immanuel/
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Post by mountain on Dec 10, 2019 11:49:13 GMT -5
That answer tells its own story. May yer lum always reek! Please listen to Amir Tsarfati’s “Immanuel” speech, maybe a hardheaded Jew turned Christian can help a hard headed Scot to come to understand that it took far more then a perfect man’s sacrifice to redeem many sinners. beholdisrael.org/immanuel/You are quite simply not heeding your own advice. You said you were through with me. FWIW I have listened to quite a few things from Amir Trarfati. Some I agree with, some I don't. I believe what God himself says, not the ramblings of yet another prophecy prophet.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 10, 2019 11:54:01 GMT -5
Please listen to Amir Tsarfati’s “Immanuel” speech, maybe a hardheaded Jew turned Christian can help a hard headed Scot to come to understand that it took far more then a perfect man’s sacrifice to redeem many sinners. beholdisrael.org/immanuel/You are quite simply not heeding your own advice. You said you were through with me. FWIW I have listened to quite a few things from Amir Trarfati. Some I agree with, some I don't. I believe what God himself says, not the ramblings of yet another prophecy prophet. Amir says he’s not a prophet.
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Post by mountain on Dec 10, 2019 11:56:41 GMT -5
You are quite simply not heeding your own advice. You said you were through with me. FWIW I have listened to quite a few things from Amir Trarfati. Some I agree with, some I don't. I believe what God himself says, not the ramblings of yet another prophecy prophet. Amir says he’s not a prophet. He is a Prophecy Prophet, not a word of God prophet. He dabbles with his own kind. Check him out. Look at the company he keeps. Yes he does have some good things to say, but like most he leans towards his imaginings.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 10, 2019 12:23:55 GMT -5
Amir says he’s not a prophet. He is a Prophecy Prophet, not a word of God prophet. He dabbles with his own kind. Check him out. Look at the company he keeps. Yes he does have some good things to say, but like most he leans towards his imaginings. No, he follows what the children of Israel have gone through and what they are going through and what is prophesied for them to come. If you don’t think that’s important in the life of Christ believers then you truly don’t know the God of the Bible.
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Post by mountain on Dec 10, 2019 13:12:35 GMT -5
He is a Prophecy Prophet, not a word of God prophet. He dabbles with his own kind. Check him out. Look at the company he keeps. Yes he does have some good things to say, but like most he leans towards his imaginings. No, he follows what the children of Israel have gone through and what they are going through and what is prophesied for them to come. If you don’t think that’s important in the life of Christ believers then you truly don’t know the God of the Bible.Now you are starting to agree with me. That's good. Your God and your Jesus are very different from mine. I have been trying to spell that out to you for a little while now. Perhaps the penny is beginning to drop?
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