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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 9, 2019 10:55:30 GMT -5
It wouldn’t be a Trinity. But she is the mother of God! Whether you are Catholic, Protestant or from another persuasion of mainstream Christianity, by giving birth to the so called God the Son, Mary must surely be the mother of God, or at least one third part of God. So why is she not considered part of the trinity or a quadrinity? Perhaps that would make her the Mother of all lies! She was a woman favored of God, because of her purity. She was of the lineage of David, a necessity to fulfill prophecy. She was still more or less of the age of innocence, not being over 14 and likely between the ages of 12-14. Which was the common age for women to be espoused to Jewish men. Jesus made it known what we should be thinking about Mary in Luke 11:27-28. And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. BUT HE SAID, Yea, RATHER, blessed are they that hear the word of God and keep it. Not much veneration advised for Mary in that.
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Post by mountain on Dec 9, 2019 12:16:34 GMT -5
But she is the mother of God! Whether you are Catholic, Protestant or from another persuasion of mainstream Christianity, by giving birth to the so called God the Son, Mary must surely be the mother of God, or at least one third part of God. So why is she not considered part of the trinity or a quadrinity? Perhaps that would make her the Mother of all lies! She was a woman favored of God, because of her purity. She was of the lineage of David, a necessity to fulfill prophecy. She was still more or less of the age of innocence, not being over 14 and likely between the ages of 12-14. Which was the common age for women to be espoused to Jewish men. Jesus made it known what we should be thinking about Mary in Luke 11:27-28. And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. BUT HE SAID, Yea, RATHER, blessed are they that hear the word of God and keep it. Not much veneration advised for Mary in that. Irrespective, if Jesus her Son is actually God the Son, she can hardly escape veneration for being the 'Mother of God!' Of course if Jesus was a human being Son of God, that is a different matter.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 9, 2019 13:37:27 GMT -5
She was a woman favored of God, because of her purity. She was of the lineage of David, a necessity to fulfill prophecy. She was still more or less of the age of innocence, not being over 14 and likely between the ages of 12-14. Which was the common age for women to be espoused to Jewish men. Jesus made it known what we should be thinking about Mary in Luke 11:27-28. And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. BUT HE SAID, Yea, RATHER, blessed are they that hear the word of God and keep it. Not much veneration advised for Mary in that. Irrespective, if Jesus her Son is actually God the Son, she can hardly escape veneration for being the 'Mother of God!' Of course if Jesus was a human being Son of God, that is a different matter. He was 100% God and 100% man. She was mother of the man Jesus. He already existed since before the world was as God the Son, the Holy Spirit moved him as God the Son into Mary’s womb which became the fetus to be named Jesus. The Bible says that “holy thing in you”. Jesus as God the Son existed eternally before the world became. John 17:5. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS. Hebrews 10:5. WHEREFORE WHEN HE COMETH INTO THE WORLD, HE SAITH, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldst not, BUT A BODY THOU HAST PREPARED ME:
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Post by mountain on Dec 9, 2019 14:31:02 GMT -5
Irrespective, if Jesus her Son is actually God the Son, she can hardly escape veneration for being the 'Mother of God!' Of course if Jesus was a human being Son of God, that is a different matter. He was 100% God and 100% man. She was mother of the man Jesus. He already existed since before the world was as God the Son, the Holy Spirit moved him as God the Son into Mary’s womb which became the fetus to be named Jesus. The Bible says that “holy thing in you”. Show from the scripture where it says that Jesus was 100% God and 100% man. Show from scripture that Jesus is God the Son. Please give your understanding of the term 'Holy?'Jesus as God the Son existed eternally before the world became. John 17:5. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS. Yet Jesus did not receive that glory until after his resurrection. God had glorified him in his mind and plan and Jesus was awaiting that glorification. Hebrews 10:5. WHEREFORE WHEN HE COMETH INTO THE WORLD, HE SAITH, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldst not, BUT A BODY THOU HAST PREPARED ME: Best to read the whole chapter, etc., to get an understanding. A perfect human body, 100% obedient to the Father, was prepared to take away our sins. A human being, a man, offered a once and for all sacrifice for sin. It was not God who died on the cross, but a male human being.
Hebrews 10.
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
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Post by howitis on Dec 9, 2019 15:31:05 GMT -5
It wouldn’t be a Trinity. But she is the mother of God! Whether you are Catholic, Protestant or from another persuasion of mainstream Christianity, by giving birth to the so called God the Son, Mary must surely be the mother of God, or at least one third part of God. So why is she not considered part of the trinity or a quadrinity? Perhaps that would make her the Mother of all lies! Except when she's the "neck" of the Body of Christ, of which we are all members.....as quoted from a Catholic site, by sharingrheriches then of course we have the anatomical problem of everything having to pass through her to sustain life🙅♀️
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Post by mountain on Dec 9, 2019 15:57:14 GMT -5
But she is the mother of God! Whether you are Catholic, Protestant or from another persuasion of mainstream Christianity, by giving birth to the so called God the Son, Mary must surely be the mother of God, or at least one third part of God. So why is she not considered part of the trinity or a quadrinity? Perhaps that would make her the Mother of all lies! Except when she's the "neck" of the Body of Christ, of which we are all members.....as stated by sharingrheriches then if course we have the anatomical problem of everything having to pass through her to sustain life🙅♀️ Why o' why can't people keep things simple? The more you complicate things, the more complicated they become. Why deny that God the Father has the ability to raise up a human being Messiah, who is 100% obedient to his will, just as he promised the prophets he would do?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 9, 2019 16:00:11 GMT -5
But she is the mother of God! Whether you are Catholic, Protestant or from another persuasion of mainstream Christianity, by giving birth to the so called God the Son, Mary must surely be the mother of God, or at least one third part of God. So why is she not considered part of the trinity or a quadrinity? Perhaps that would make her the Mother of all lies! Except when she's the "neck" of the Body of Christ, of which we are all members.....as stated by sharingrheriches then if course we have the anatomical problem of everything having to pass through her to sustain life🙅♀️ I didn’t state that! You best recant that! I-QUOTED THAT FROM A CATHOLIC SITE. May God have mercy in your lying soul! 😖
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 9, 2019 16:07:47 GMT -5
Except when she's the "neck" of the Body of Christ, of which we are all members.....as stated by sharingrheriches then if course we have the anatomical problem of everything having to pass through her to sustain life🙅♀️ Why o' why can't people keep things simple? The more you complicate things, the more complicated they become. Why deny that God the Father has the ability to raise up a human being Messiah, who is 100% obedient to his will, just as he promised the prophets he would do? How you think blood from a man can cleanse you from your sin the Bible clearly states “A man cannot redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him.” God did raise up a prophet, a God(whom hath made us priests and kings UNTO GOD AND HIS FATHER). He had to have a human body so he could die. God cannot die. So to be following the Mosaic law, he was the firstborn man son of Mary, he started in a fetus and kept his human flesh without sin or marring. All things biblical were fulfilled in him. And IT IS SSIMPLE AND BIBLICAL that Jesus is man and God. How Speak doesn’t know this because Evan Jones preached it world wide. Evan knew what he spoke for he could see God the Son from the first chapter of Genesis clear unto the last chapter of Revelations.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 9, 2019 16:09:47 GMT -5
Except when she's the "neck" of the Body of Christ, of which we are all members.....as stated by sharingrheriches then if course we have the anatomical problem of everything having to pass through her to sustain life🙅♀️ Why o' why can't people keep things simple? The more you complicate things, the more complicated they become. Why deny that God the Father has the ability to raise up a human being Messiah, who is 100% obedient to his will, just as he promised the prophets he would do? Why are you denying God could begat his Son all alone long before the world ever became? Talk about not giving God credit for his abilities and that is you.
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Post by mountain on Dec 9, 2019 17:58:10 GMT -5
Why o' why can't people keep things simple? The more you complicate things, the more complicated they become. Why deny that God the Father has the ability to raise up a human being Messiah, who is 100% obedient to his will, just as he promised the prophets he would do? How you think blood from a man can cleanse you from your sin the Bible clearly states “A man cannot redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him.”
God did raise up a prophet, a God(whom hath made us priests and kings UNTO GOD AND HIS FATHER). He had to have a human body so he could die. God cannot die. So to be following the Mosaic law, he was the firstborn man son of Mary, he started in a fetus and kept his human flesh without sin or marring. All things biblical were fulfilled in him. And IT IS SSIMPLE AND BIBLICAL that Jesus is man and God. How Speak doesn’t know this because Evan Jones preached it world wide. Evan knew what he spoke for he could see God the Son from the first chapter of Genesis clear unto the last chapter of Revelations. O' goodness, goodness me! Why o' why do I travail with thee? Hast thou not learned to read things in proper context? Here is what Psalm 49 actually says: 6 They that trust in their wealth, and boast themselves in the multitude of their riches;
7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
8 (For the redemption of their soul is precious, and it ceaseth for ever:)Notice it does NOT say what you want it to say. It is speaking about how those that trust in their wealth cannot redeem their brother, by their riches! Try reading the whole Psalm to see what it is talking about. Your understanding is way far left of what is being conveyed. Romans 5 makes it clear that through one MAN sin entered the world and through one MAN (a perfect man) we are redeemed and made righteous. Romans 5:12-21 King James Version (KJV) 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.I put it to you the context between Adam and Jesus is them both being men, NOT God. 1 Corinthians 15 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
It is clear that God planned his redemption through a man, a perfect man. A man 100% obedient to his will. It was NOT through God offering himself as a sacrifice. He offered up his only begotten human being Son who is the only one possible to be offered up because he was perfect and unblemished in God's eyes.
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Post by mountain on Dec 9, 2019 18:00:46 GMT -5
Why o' why can't people keep things simple? The more you complicate things, the more complicated they become. Why deny that God the Father has the ability to raise up a human being Messiah, who is 100% obedient to his will, just as he promised the prophets he would do? Why are you denying God could begat his Son all alone long before the world ever became? Talk about not giving God credit for his abilities and that is you. Begat his son with whom?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 9, 2019 18:27:03 GMT -5
Why are you denying God could begat his Son all alone long before the world ever became? Talk about not giving God credit for his abilities and that is you. Begat his son with whom? You’re the one spouting off about us not giving credit toGod’s power to have a natural child with Mary. My answer is where’s your so fired up willingness you want to grant God has power to begat his only Begotten Son by himself? He did and thus his Son can not help being 100 % God because there was no one else involved in his begetting. He did not separate himself, he shared himself to beget his Son.
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Post by mountain on Dec 9, 2019 18:30:42 GMT -5
You’re the one spouting off about us not giving credit toGod’s power to have a natural child with Mary. My answer is where’s your so fired up willingness you want to grant God has power to begat his only Begotten Son by himself? He did and thus his Son can not help being 100 % God because there was no one else involved in his begetting. He did not separate himself, he shared himself to beget his Son. As I have attested to several times in the recent past, Shaz, YOUR God and YOUR Jesus are very different to MY God and MY Jesus. I am positive you cannot support your latest (above) human imaginings from scripture!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 9, 2019 18:33:16 GMT -5
How you think blood from a man can cleanse you from your sin the Bible clearly states “A man cannot redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him.”
God did raise up a prophet, a God(whom hath made us priests and kings UNTO GOD AND HIS FATHER). He had to have a human body so he could die. God cannot die. So to be following the Mosaic law, he was the firstborn man son of Mary, he started in a fetus and kept his human flesh without sin or marring. All things biblical were fulfilled in him. And IT IS SSIMPLE AND BIBLICAL that Jesus is man and God. How Speak doesn’t know this because Evan Jones preached it world wide. Evan knew what he spoke for he could see God the Son from the first chapter of Genesis clear unto the last chapter of Revelations. O' goodness, goodness me! Why o' why do I travail with thee? Hast thou not learned to read things in proper context? Here is what Psalm 49 actually says: 6 They that trust in their wealth, and boast themselves in the multitude of their riches;
7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
8 (For the redemption of their soul is precious, and it ceaseth for ever:)Notice it does NOT say what you want it to say. It is speaking about how those that trust in their wealth cannot redeem their brother, by their riches! Try reading the whole Psalm to see what it is talking about. Your understanding is way far left of what is being conveyed. Romans 5 makes it clear that through one MAN sin entered the world and through one MAN (a perfect man) we are redeemed and made righteous. Romans 5:12-21 King James Version (KJV) 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.I put it to you the context between Adam and Jesus is them both being men, NOT God. 1 Corinthians 15 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
It is clear that God planned his redemption through a man, a perfect man. A man 100% obedient to his will. It was NOT through God offering himself as a sacrifice. He offered up his only begotten human being Son who is the only one possible to be offered up because he was perfect and unblemished in God's eyes. I’ve told you, yes! Jesus was 100 % man AND 100 % GOD. God could not die so he had to have a human body so he could. That human body had to be pure as the Mosaic law said. So He was given a fetal body in which he grew up keeping his human frame pure and free of sin so he could be the Mosaic Lamb like the Passover Lamb. He surrendered his spirit, his God eternal spirit to the Father for safe keeping while on the cross because he could not die with his God person. He suffered his last moments in the cross as inly a human could. Having to drink from OUR CUP OF GOD’S WRATH , in our place. He suffered hell while on the cross.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 9, 2019 18:33:47 GMT -5
You’re the one spouting off about us not giving credit toGod’s power to have a natural child with Mary. My answer is where’s your so fired up willingness you want to grant God has power to begat his only Begotten Son by himself? He did and thus his Son can not help being 100 % God because there was no one else involved in his begetting. He did not separate himself, he shared himself to beget his Son. As I have attested to several times in the recent past, Shaz, YOUR God and YOUR Jesus are very different to MY God and MY Jesus. I am positive you cannot support your latest (above) human imaginings from scripture! IH but I can and I have repeatedly.
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Post by mountain on Dec 9, 2019 18:35:09 GMT -5
O' goodness, goodness me! Why o' why do I travail with thee? Hast thou not learned to read things in proper context? Here is what Psalm 49 actually says: 6 They that trust in their wealth, and boast themselves in the multitude of their riches;
7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
8 (For the redemption of their soul is precious, and it ceaseth for ever:)Notice it does NOT say what you want it to say. It is speaking about how those that trust in their wealth cannot redeem their brother, by their riches! Try reading the whole Psalm to see what it is talking about. Your understanding is way far left of what is being conveyed. Romans 5 makes it clear that through one MAN sin entered the world and through one MAN (a perfect man) we are redeemed and made righteous. Romans 5:12-21 King James Version (KJV) 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.I put it to you the context between Adam and Jesus is them both being men, NOT God. 1 Corinthians 15 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
It is clear that God planned his redemption through a man, a perfect man. A man 100% obedient to his will. It was NOT through God offering himself as a sacrifice. He offered up his only begotten human being Son who is the only one possible to be offered up because he was perfect and unblemished in God's eyes. I’ve told you, yes! Jesus was 100 % man AND 100 % GOD. God could not die so he had to have a human body so he could. That human body had to be pure as the Mosaic law said. So He was given a fetal body in which he grew up keeping his human frame pure and free of sin so he could be the Mosaic Lamb like the Passover Lamb. He surrendered his spirit, his God eternal spirit to the Father for safe keeping while on the cross because he could not die with his God person. He suffered his last moments in the cross as inly a human could. Having to drink from OUR CUP OF GOD’S WRATH , in our place. He suffered hell while on the cross. It would have been easier to say...'yes indeed my God and my Jesus are very different to your God and your Jesus.' At least we would have reached an agreement of sorts!
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 9, 2019 18:35:20 GMT -5
ummm i seem to remember someone somewhere saying that mary was part of the trinity in some of the RCC world... It wouldn’t be a Trinity. Well at the time it would have been a trinity -- before the Holy Spirit was recognized as the third party with the father and the son.
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Post by mountain on Dec 9, 2019 18:37:36 GMT -5
As I have attested to several times in the recent past, Shaz, YOUR God and YOUR Jesus are very different to MY God and MY Jesus. I am positive you cannot support your latest (above) human imaginings from scripture! IH but I can and I have repeatedly. Are we talking about what scripture actually and unequivocally states, or are we talking about what you read into the text? Care for another attempt?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 9, 2019 18:50:13 GMT -5
IH but I can and I have repeatedly. Are we talking about what scripture actually and unequivocally states, or are we talking about what you read into the text? Care for another attempt? I’m through with you.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 9, 2019 18:52:31 GMT -5
It wouldn’t be a Trinity. Well at the time it would have been a trinity -- before the Holy Spirit was recognized as the third party with the father and the son. But didn’t you say that Mary had been added by pagan worshipper later the the second century? The first century fathers pegged the word Trinity to cover God of heaven as the Father, his Son and Holy Spirit.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 9, 2019 19:40:32 GMT -5
Well at the time it would have been a trinity -- before the Holy Spirit was recognized as the third party with the father and the son. But didn’t you say that Mary had been added by pagan worshipper later the the second century? The first century fathers pegged the word Trinity to cover God of heaven as the Father, his Son and Holy Spirit. Actually no -- the first century fathers did not have the Holy Spirit as part of a trinity. That was not officially the case until it was included at the Council of Nicea. It was the case that the early Pagan Jesus followers did want to worship a "mother of god" as they did in Pagan religions, and the church for a couple of centuries resisted that. BTW, the concept of a "trinity" came from Paganism as well. The concept of a "holy spirit" was foreign to Jews, who believed in nothing more than "doing" the right things, all of which were known of dictated by the prophets.
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Post by reborn on Dec 9, 2019 19:54:40 GMT -5
But didn’t you say that Mary had been added by pagan worshipper later the the second century? The first century fathers pegged the word Trinity to cover God of heaven as the Father, his Son and Holy Spirit. Actually no -- the first century fathers did not have the Holy Spirit as part of a trinity. That was not officially the case until it was included at the Council of Nicea. It was the case that the early Pagan Jesus followers did want to worship a "mother of god" as they did in Pagan religions, and the church for a couple of centuries resisted that. BTW, the concept of a "trinity" came from Paganism as well. The concept of a "holy spirit" was foreign to Jews, who believed in nothing more than "doing" the right things, all of which were known of dictated by the prophets. Baptizing them in the name of The father, the son, and the Holy Ghost. It’s there in the Mathew.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 9, 2019 19:59:03 GMT -5
Actually no -- the first century fathers did not have the Holy Spirit as part of a trinity. That was not officially the case until it was included at the Council of Nicea. It was the case that the early Pagan Jesus followers did want to worship a "mother of god" as they did in Pagan religions, and the church for a couple of centuries resisted that. BTW, the concept of a "trinity" came from Paganism as well. The concept of a "holy spirit" was foreign to Jews, who believed in nothing more than "doing" the right things, all of which were known of dictated by the prophets. Baptizing them in the name of The father, the son, and the Holy Ghost. It’s there in the Mathew. Of course. That scripture was not approved until after the church had adopted the Holy Spirit. If I'm not mistaken, there is scripture for baptizing only in Jesus name.
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Post by reborn on Dec 9, 2019 20:04:01 GMT -5
Baptizing them in the name of The father, the son, and the Holy Ghost. It’s there in the Mathew. Of course. That scripture was not approved until after the church had adopted the Holy Spirit. If I'm not mistaken, there is scripture for baptizing only in Jesus name. Please provide that.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 9, 2019 20:05:37 GMT -5
Of course. That scripture was not approved until after the church had adopted the Holy Spirit. If I'm not mistaken, there is scripture for baptizing only in Jesus name. Please provide that. I was only told that about a Jesus-only Pentecostal. I don't know what their justification is.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 20:09:45 GMT -5
I was only told that about a Jesus-only Pentecostal. I don't know what their justification is. it would be interesting to know what John the Baptist said when he baptized folks BEFORE the HS came after Jesus resurrection..he himself had the HS but not your average believer at the time...
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 9, 2019 20:38:55 GMT -5
Baptizing them in the name of The father, the son, and the Holy Ghost. It’s there in the Mathew. Of course. That scripture was not approved until after the church had adopted the Holy Spirit. If I'm not mistaken, there is scripture for baptizing only in Jesus name. The apostles baptized in Jesus’ name in Acts.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 9, 2019 20:39:45 GMT -5
I was only told that about a Jesus-only Pentecostal. I don't know what their justification is. it would be interesting to know what John the Baptist said when he baptized folks BEFORE the HS came after Jesus resurrection..he himself had the HS but not your average believer at the time... His baptism was unto repentance.
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