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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 1, 2015 2:15:17 GMT -5
You brought it up first, so you better do it.
And if I don't??? [/font] [/quote] I don't care whether you believe me or not.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 1, 2015 2:22:35 GMT -5
You brought it up first, so you better do it. And what if I don't??? You don't even know what my source is. How can you know whether to believe it or not?
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Post by Roselyn T on Dec 1, 2015 6:43:13 GMT -5
nathan you have just contradicted yourself ! "Yes, a person must find the workers or the friends in order for them to welcome to the fellowship/saved..." Then you said "There were apostles and followers of Jesus Truth and Way prior to the Faith Mission and the 2x2s workers prior to the time of William Irvine, John Long, George Walker, Jack Carroll, etc" There is no contradiction.... People were SAVED by the same apostles/workers and Christ's followers ministry Prior to William Irvine for 1800 yrs... People were/are still saved through the same (2x2 apostles/workers and the friends ministry the last 115 years).So nathan what happened to the apostles/workers prior to Irvine ? If they were right when did they become wrong ? You use whatever suits your belief nathan, even if it isn't what the main stream F&W believe you twist it around as if they don't know what they believe, take the trinity as an example. Those of us who were B&R in the F&W know very well what the workers views are on the Trinity !
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Post by Roselyn T on Dec 1, 2015 7:06:38 GMT -5
Why are you arguing this to me. I have seen your cut and paste on this 50 times if I've seen it this time. I'm only explaining that the F&W don't believe what you believe. I wasn't asking for what you believe. I know you have read them before but I posted so the NEW readers can read these information for themselves. You believe different on the Trinity doctrine that they believe to be false docrine, as well as all your alien stuff, hollow earth stuff, Thor, underground tunnels, Reptilians, and many other things you believe in. Aliens/Reptilians= Are the fallen angels, demons, Devil, Satan in the Bible, Hollow earth= Is the Garden of Eden in the Bible, Valiant, Donn Thor= Are the human-looking Guardian angels in the Old/New testament Bible, Now don't start posting your cut and paste on all these things, I don't really care to see them again. I"m only pointing out that the Friends and Workers don't believe in all this. Your beliefs are much different than theirs. That is why, I am trying to inform, educate, share these knowledge....Wow, so now the Garden of Eden is the hollow earth !!! nathan, where is your proof of this in the Bible ? Does it say in Genesis somewhere about the Garden of Eden being in the centre of the earth ? Maybe you could give us the chapter and verse please !
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Post by Roselyn T on Dec 1, 2015 7:11:41 GMT -5
[/font] [/quote] You also believe that the earth is hollow. [/quote] The different between you and me... I revealed my reliable sources, eyewitnesses for the readers to examine and check it out for themselves. You don't have a reliable source to back it up your claim.[/quote] nathan who is your reliable source or eyewitness in the case of the Henderson children ? Oh that's right you don't have ANY ! But it doesn't stop you putting it on your website as fact.
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Post by jondough on Dec 1, 2015 9:18:56 GMT -5
Wow, so now the Garden of Eden is the hollow earth !!! nathan, where is your proof of this in the Bible ? Does it say in Genesis somewhere about the Garden of Eden being in the centre of the earth ? Maybe you could give us the chapter and verse please ! I will ask you the same thing, We know the dinosaurs existed millions years ago, we have their skeletons to prove it. Can you show me where the dinosaurs mention in the Bible, Rose?Dinosaurs In The Bible: St. George and the DragonIf dinosaurs and people lived at the same time, shouldn't the Bible talk about dinosaurs? Yes -- and it does. Dinosaurs are one of the most frequently mentioned animals in the Bible. The only thing is, the word dinosaur is not used. The word "dinosaur" was not invented until 1841. It could not be used by early translators of the Bible. For example, the King James Version translation was completed in 1611, over 200 years before the word "dinosaur" was created. Is there another word for dinosaur that is used in the Bible? Yes! Here are a few verses: "...and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness." - Malachi 1:3 (KJV) "...they snuffed up the wind like dragons." - Jereniah 14:6 (KJV) "...and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea." - Isaiah 27:1 (KJV) The word is dragon. It's interesting to note that people around the world have similar stories about "dragons"... and the descriptions of "dragons" are similar in all cultures... and those descriptions basically match what we think dinosaurs look like. When the Bible talks about dragons, it is talking about what we now call dinosaurs. Here's a detailed description from Job 40:15-19 "Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. He is chief of the ways of God."
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Post by rational on Dec 1, 2015 9:34:34 GMT -5
The world has been riding a roller coaster for 3 years famine, Ebola, birds flu, virus, wars, earthquake, Japan nuclear plants meltdown, ice storms, too many wild forest fire, burned thousands of homes, etc.... Hang on to your seat belt, JD... those from California, Oregon, Washington, B.C Canada and Mexico! Here comes the BIG ONE/earthquake which split California in HALF... Andreas fault line... NOT if but WHEN. Imagine what you would be claiming if you were of age during WWII It would seem that we are not in a period of a lot of earthquake activity. Just a lot of media hype! Looks like famine is also swinging down: Did you have anything to back up your claims NathanB or do you create them from whole cloth to support your view?
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Post by slowtosee on Dec 1, 2015 10:31:40 GMT -5
....and even more descriptive , FIRE breathing dragons, aka dinasours............
Job 14:21 20"Out of his nostrils smoke goes forth As from a boiling pot and burning rushes. 21"His breath kindles coals, And a flame goes forth from his mouth. 22"In his neck lodges strength, And dismay leaps before him.…
Alvin
.... and then the next verses....... there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs. Makes perfect sense .............. ah I think I mixed up books again...... Cheers
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Post by slowtosee on Dec 1, 2015 10:42:16 GMT -5
Imagine what you would be claiming if you were of age during WWII It would seem that we are not in a period of a lot of earthquake activity. Just a lot of media hype! Looks like famine is also swinging down: Did you have anything to back up your claims NathanB or do you create them from whole cloth to support your view? One of the biggest media hype right now is climate change with doomsday predictions. I think we all have our prejudices one way or another, and then look for "evidences" around us, including the media, to support our theory, and "boom", "fact" is born , believed and conclusively becomes mainstream "TRUTH" Don't worry, I'm no different. Nice warm day here today, for the north, so obviously climate change is alive and well. thanks for the charts. Alvin
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Post by rational on Dec 1, 2015 11:54:17 GMT -5
One of the biggest media hype right now is climate change with doomsday predictions. I think we all have our prejudices one way or another, and then look for "evidences" around us, including the media, to support our theory, and "boom", "fact" is born , believed and conclusively becomes mainstream "TRUTH" Don't worry, I'm no different. Nice warm day here today, for the north, so obviously climate change is alive and well. thanks for the charts. Alvin I am hoping for a sea level rise of about 280 feet. That will put my home on a nice bluff about 50 feet above the sea. It will be a short walk to the beach. Hmmm - Beach. I should put out a sign asking for clean fill so there will be material for the beach. I don't have time to wait for the granite to turn to sand.
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Post by Scott Ross on Dec 1, 2015 12:26:40 GMT -5
nathan you have just contradicted yourself ! "Yes, a person must find the workers or the friends in order for them to welcome to the fellowship/saved..." Then you said "There were apostles and followers of Jesus Truth and Way prior to the Faith Mission and the 2x2s workers prior to the time of William Irvine, John Long, George Walker, Jack Carroll, etc" There is no contradiction.... People were SAVED by the same apostles/workers and Christ's followers ministry Prior to William Irvine for 1800 yrs... People were/are still saved through the same (2x2 apostles/workers and the friends ministry the last 115 years).Really? Can you show us in the bible where any if the apostles actually saved anyone? How many people do you feel you personally saved as a worker?
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Post by jondough on Dec 1, 2015 13:28:52 GMT -5
Thanks for this Mary. Mary, does your fellowship partake of the emblems? Do you break bread and drink of the cup as Jesus asked us to do in remembrance of him? Yes JD we do, to me the bread and wine are symbolic. They are symbols of taking the life of Jesus in, then living it out. We must do this spiritually as well as naturally. Paul said 1 Corinthians 11 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. When Jesus broke the bread he said to eat it in remembrance of him, that's remembering his life. He didn't say on rememberance of his death at Calvary. He said in rememberance of him! Also, when he gave the cup. He said the cup was the new testament in his blood this do you, as often as you drink it in rememberance of me. Again, it's in rememberance of him, not in his death on the cross! Jesus had already laid down his life before he went on the cross, he had already finished the work that the father had given him to do. He was already dead to this world. This world had nothing in him. He also said it was the cup of the new testament, not the cup of his death on a wooden cross. The new testament is a new covenant and when we partake in this covenant we partake in his death and become alive in God. Look at the last sentence above in 1 Corinthians 11 (above) Paul said For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. So as often as we eat the bread and drink from the cup, we show the lords death till he comes. That isn't the death on the cross that we show, we aren't crucified. We show death to self. By partaking in the bread and drinking from the cup we are spiritually taking in the life of Jesus, and if we are doing that, then that life within us will be putting our old man to death by the spirit and replacing us with the new man. Our thoughts and ways will be changing because we will be walking in spirit not in flesh, dying to the world but alive in God. And the spirit of Christ will be living through us, because he will be alive in us, and we will be alive in God! They are symbolic to me as well. Sorry about using your name as an example of someone that doesn’t meet with us (F&W). I can imagine your eyes must have got twice the size when seeing your name used about like this. I was only trying to use a more specific example to Nathan when he says that anyone that doesn’t meet with his/our fellowship is not saved unless they eventually come around (if they have a right heart) and profess through a Worker. Seems rather foolish when Christ words never said such a thing. He said we are saved through HIM. Thanks again, JD
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Post by Grant on Dec 1, 2015 13:44:38 GMT -5
Wonder how many early workers did believe in the Trinty? As I wrote above an early worker did not even believe the blood of a 'dead man' could save. Their doctrine regarding who Jesus was, was questioned back then. The workers came up with all kinds of weird and strange doctrine back then especially as they went off track.
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Post by slowtosee on Dec 1, 2015 15:29:41 GMT -5
Can you show us in the bible where any if the apostles actually saved anyone?
Not an answer to your question, but applying the strict criteria that is often promoted ,that you have to get saved through the workers , (mistakenly identified as apostles?,) THEN none of the apostles were saved either, as they did not get it through a "ministry" of apostles, workers or whatever. They simply believed Jesus, which is very obviously not enough. Hmmm, too bad. none of the twelve saved- no workers to do it for them. SOL again. Alvin
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Post by jondough on Dec 1, 2015 16:57:43 GMT -5
Wonder how many early workers did believe in the Trinty? As I wrote above an early worker did not even believe the blood of a 'dead man' could save. Their doctrine regarding who Jesus was, was questioned back then. The workers came up with all kinds of weird and strange doctrine back then especially as they went off track. Obviously not very many of the early Workers believed in it or there would be more remnants of it today. I leterally do not know one professing person today that believes in it....with the exception of Nathan whom I only know from this board. If many of the early workers believed in it, there would still be older folks left that believe in it. Nathan tells us "many of the early workers believed in it". But he also says that the F&W today worship the Trinity, we just dont' like the word. So If his early workers statement has as much credibility as this statement, well....that should tell you something.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 1, 2015 18:54:14 GMT -5
And what if I don't??? You don't even know what my source is. How can you know whether to believe it or not? Well, because it is against the workers, the friends belief and most of the churches belief out there also.Was William Irvine a worker?
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Post by jondough on Dec 1, 2015 19:29:20 GMT -5
Dinosaurs In The Bible: St. George and the DragonIf dinosaurs and people lived at the same time, shouldn't the Bible talk about dinosaurs? Yes -- and it does. Dinosaurs are one of the most frequently mentioned animals in the Bible. The only thing is, the word dinosaur is not used. The word "dinosaur" was not invented until 1841. It could not be used by early translators of the Bible. For example, the King James Version translation was completed in 1611, over 200 years before the word "dinosaur" was created. Is there another word for dinosaur that is used in the Bible? Yes! Here are a few verses: "...and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness." - Malachi 1:3 (KJV) "...they snuffed up the wind like dragons." - Jereniah 14:6 (KJV) "...and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea." - Isaiah 27:1 (KJV) The word is dragon. It's interesting to note that people around the world have similar stories about "dragons"... and the descriptions of "dragons" are similar in all cultures... and those descriptions basically match what we think dinosaurs look like. When the Bible talks about dragons, it is talking about what we now call dinosaurs. Here's a detailed description from Job 40:15-19 "Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. He is chief of the ways of God." I don't think so, Dinosaurs extinct 65 millions of years before God created the Homo Sapiens/Adam and Eve race 6000 yrs ago.www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/dino-directory/about-dinosaurs/when-did-dinosaurs-live.htmlThen I guess you answered your own question.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 1, 2015 19:29:35 GMT -5
Was William Irvine a worker? William Irvine was a Faith Mission Pilgrim/Worker from 1895-1901, then he became the 2x2 worker in 1901.Does that make him unreliable?
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Post by jondough on Dec 1, 2015 19:40:33 GMT -5
It would seem that we are not in a period of a lot of earthquake activity. Just a lot of media hype! Looks like famine is also swinging down: Did you have anything to back up your claims NathanB or do you create them from whole cloth to support your view? Like I said it will get worse and worse... the worse is YET! to come.... Read Revelation chapter 16 NOT if but WHEN! The wrath of God to pour out upon the earth... Revelation 16:17-21
The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, “It is done!” Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since mankind has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. From the sky huge hailstones, each weighing about a hundred pounds, fell on people. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible. What you said was this: NathanB Avatar Dec 20, 2012 at 8:10am NathanB said: 1) JD wrote: Nathan, I know this is changing the subject...but I don't want to start a new thread for this.... You made a prediction for tomorrow - some time ago....December 21st. Can you, for the record, state it one more time please? I know you didn't predict the end of the world, but you did say something like......Something catastrophic is going to happen on December 21st? ? Please clarify so we have for the record.... ~~ Nathan: We better NOT hijack that thread or we will get in trouble. Thanks, JD for asking..... According to Myan Calendar many believe the world will end on Dec, 21. The earth pole shift has began slowly 15 years ago. It has caused great catastrophe with many Huge earth quakes around the world, Big F-4/5 tornados, many Super hurricans, etc... 1)~~ NASA Employee SPEAKS About NIBIRU/Massive earthquakes, Great suffering for people on the earth to come. www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCtfTU787w4&feature=related2) ~~ Earth's Force Field: Pole Shift may be Imminent. The Earths magnetic field, the protector of all life on Earth is under constant attack from deadly cosmic radiation. This invisible shield that we live in is weakening in a region over the South Atlantic, leaving it exposed to potentially lethal radiation. Is the Earth losing its magnetic field and doomed to a fate similar to Mars? Many scientists believe the answer lies in paleomagnetic data, and that this weakening may be a precursor to a magnetic field reversal; scientists know Earth is long overdue. However, humans were not around when the last reversal took place, so what does this mean for life? www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XNMCTBdQtk&feature=related~~ 3) All around the world in 2011-12 reports of millions of animals dying and suddenly dropping dead such as Whales, Dolphins, Turtles, Fish, Birds, Crabs. People all around the world have also been hearing a very strange noise coming from the sky above. Strange occurrences happening in and around our sun with planet sized objects seen around it. (part 1&2) www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCqnND7qHQA&feature=relatedwww.youtube.com/watch?v=4RADvrtHe48&feature=relatedSo, my prediction things will get worse, after Dec, 21/2012. So, Put your seatbelts on for a wild rollercoaster rides. To the Christians, and 2x2s be alert and be ready because the Lord God Jesus Christ 2nd coming getting closer than We think. Halelujah! Lord Jesus cometh! to reign and rule the 1000 yrs on earth with thy people. (Jude 14,15) And Enoch the 7th from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, "Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all that are Ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. I Thess. 5:3,4 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall Say, PEACE! and SAFETY; then Sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall NOT escape.
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Post by jondough on Dec 1, 2015 19:41:48 GMT -5
This was 3 years ago. Nothing has happened. You specifically called out the date of Dec 21, 2012
As Rational has pointed out, its actually got better.
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Post by jondough on Dec 1, 2015 20:21:20 GMT -5
This was 3 years ago. Nothing has happened. You specifically called out the date of Dec 21, 2012 As Rational has pointed out, its actually got better. This is what I wrote JD, read my post again ... So, my prediction things will get worse, AFTER! Dec, 21/2012. So, Put your seatbelts on for a wild rollercoaster rides. To the Christians, and 2x2s be alert and be ready because the Lord God Jesus Christ 2nd coming getting closer than We think. It will NOT get better according to the words of God.....Like I said the worse is YET! to come NOT getting better.... Read Revelation chapter 16 NOT if but WHEN! The wrath of God to pour out upon the earth... Revelation 16:17-21
The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, “It is done!” Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since mankind has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. From the sky huge hailstones, each weighing about a hundred pounds, fell on people. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.
Revelation chapter 8:7-13 The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down on the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.
The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.
The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11 the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter. The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night. Revelation chapter 9:6 And in those days shall men seek death and shall NOT find it; and shall desire to DIE, and death shall flee from them.... For an hour, to slay the 1/3 part of men.
Yes Nathan, it says that in Revelations, but you stuck your neck out there and predicted the date of December 21, 2012. I remember you posting all about it. How things were going to get really bad after that date - As if that date was a huge milestone. Of course, after 3 years we have seen nothing. Nothing like you were portraying. But of course, you would never admit you were wrong. You would never at least admit that you should never had mentioned the date of Dec 21, 2012. So I ask you again, what has happened that is so catistrophic since that date?
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Post by Roselyn T on Dec 1, 2015 21:05:26 GMT -5
nathan, that is YOUR website, not a reliable source or eyewitness account ! You don't even live in Australia so how can you have an eyewitness ?
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Post by Roselyn T on Dec 1, 2015 21:08:43 GMT -5
Wow, so now the Garden of Eden is the hollow earth !!! nathan, where is your proof of this in the Bible ? Does it say in Genesis somewhere about the Garden of Eden being in the centre of the earth ? Maybe you could give us the chapter and verse please ! I will ask you the same thing, We know the dinosaurs existed millions years ago, we have their skeletons to prove it. Can you show me where the dinosaurs mention in the Bible, Rose? nathan it not up to me to prove anything ! You are the one making statements like the Garden Of Eden is in the Hollow Earth, so it is up to YOU to prove it with verses in the Bible.
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Post by Roselyn T on Dec 1, 2015 21:10:14 GMT -5
So nathan what happened to the apostles/workers prior to Irvine ? If they were right when did they become wrong ? You use whatever suits your belief nathan, even if it isn't what the main stream F&W believe you twist it around as if they don't know what they believe, take the trinity as an example. Those of us who were B&R in the F&W know very well what the workers views are on the Trinity ! I know the early workers/friends believe and taught the Trinity, but most of the current workers/friend DO NOT believe in the Trinity. They are anti-Trinity, there's no twisting here. The funny thing is they say they don't believe in the Trinity but they worship the Trinity= Father, Christ/Son and Holy Spirit, partake the emblems of Christ/Jesus death, and sing/pray to the Holy Spirit in every Sunday fellowship around the world.What happened to the apostles/workers before Irvine, nathan ? If they were right when did they become wrong ?
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I will ask you the same thing, We know the dinosaurs existed millions years ago, we have their skeletons to prove it. Can you show me where the dinosaurs mention in the Bible, Rose? nathan it not up to me to prove anything ! You are the one making statements like the Garden Of Eden is in the Hollow Earth, so it is up to YOU to prove it with verses in the Bible. I believe leviathan and behemoth are the answers your looking for in the bible specifically in Job...
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Post by slowtosee on Dec 1, 2015 21:23:22 GMT -5
Was William Irvine a worker? William Irvine was a Faith Mission Pilgrim/Worker from 1895-1901, then he became the 2x2 worker in 1901. William Irvine started his ministry, independent of faith mission, in August of 1897 in Northern County Tipperary. In 1900 , he is actively recruiting workers away from the Faith mission, and William's name removed from Faith Mission rolls. 1901 , he officially resigns from faith mission, along with John Kelly . If his official resignation from faith mission, is the date to be used when he became a 2x2 worker, then 1901 is correct, but he had been preaching against faith mission etc. previously, so whatever. William , of course, "professed" through Rev John McNeill, not a 2x2 worker. William wr0te that he was put out in September of 1897 . I wonder how he reconciled preaching later, that one is required to get saved through the workers, when there were none available for him to profess through . I suppose he could declare himself a TRUE worker, test the meeting for himself , stand up and profess, and away we go? Big predicament to be in is when one believes you have to profess through the workers and there simply are none to be found or none exist, like in William's situation. Complicated . I have heard of people baptizing themselves , also, so obviously no problem to get saved through a worker , even when you are the first and only one. Alvin "In July, 1895 I joined the Faith Mission and I found myself very much the same, in the outer circle (as in Bible Training Institute). Finally I was put out because I was not of them and (not) willing for all their discipline, which I felt was not of God or according to the Book... I was put out of Faith Mission September, 1897." (Dec. 4, 1921 Letter to Kerrs)
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Post by jondough on Dec 1, 2015 21:33:59 GMT -5
Yes Nathan, it says that in Revelations, but you stuck your neck out there and predicted the date of December 21, 2012. I remember you posting all about it. How things were going to get really bad after that date - As if that date was a huge milestone. Of course, after 3 years we have seen nothing. Nothing like you were portraying. But of course, you would never admit you were wrong. You would never at least admit that you should never had mentioned the date of Dec 21, 2012. So I ask you again, what has happened that is so catistrophic since that date? Come on JD... you and I know according to Jesus own words, no angel, no man and even Jesus knows the date, time, and hours when the end of time... So, Why, would I be so foolish to predict the date in Dec 21, 2012? I think you're looking for posts to point out that I make mistakes and I need to apologize for it. I hope you are NOT the fault finder kind of a guy.I don't know, why would you?
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Post by jondough on Dec 1, 2015 21:36:37 GMT -5
Yes Nathan, it says that in Revelations, but you stuck your neck out there and predicted the date of December 21, 2012. I remember you posting all about it. How things were going to get really bad after that date - As if that date was a huge milestone. Of course, after 3 years we have seen nothing. Nothing like you were portraying. But of course, you would never admit you were wrong. You would never at least admit that you should never had mentioned the date of Dec 21, 2012. So I ask you again, what has happened that is so catistrophic since that date? Come on JD... you and I know according to Jesus own words, no angel, no man and even Jesus knows the date, time, and hours when the end of time... So, Why, would I be so foolish to predict the date in Dec 21, 2012? I think you're looking for posts to point out that I make mistakes and I need to apologize for it. I hope you are NOT the fault finder kind of a guy.I have been on TMB for over 3 years now. Over 2,800 post. You tell me. Am I the fault finder kind of a guy? Do I have that repuation?
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