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Post by rational on Aug 12, 2015 17:39:54 GMT -5
Would be good to hear of non believers accepting Christ. It's always about how people left their churches not about non believers coming to Christ. It is a matter of numbers. Right now more people are leaving organized religion than are joining.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 1:39:12 GMT -5
and i say again so b-l-o-o-d-y what? ?? frankly i don't really if care you were B&R and have a lot of family that still go to meetings, i don't really care that after 5 generations there are a lot of things you don't just forget overnight ! all you seem to want to do is tear us down You tear yourself down Virgo. collaborator
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Post by fred on Aug 13, 2015 3:39:33 GMT -5
You tear yourself down Virgo. collaborator You don't need a collaborator Virgo, you seem perfectly capable on your own.
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Post by maryhig on Aug 14, 2015 3:08:20 GMT -5
Ross. I don't know if you've read my posts, but I have clearly said many times that it's not my works but Christ by the spirit cleaning my heart. I have said, I'm nothing, I'm dust. I can't clean my heart out, but I can deny my sin, the spirit in my heart and through others is showing me my sins. Sins I never realised I had. And I have to deny them. The the more I deny them. The stronger the spirit becomes in me. And Christ is guiding me and cleaning my heart, through his righteousness. If he wasn't with me then I would be dead in my sins. Because I would think I'm ok and I'm good. I would be blind to many of my faults. Licking myself clean. But Christ has shone a light into my heart, and with that light, he has not only shown me God. But he has also showed me my sins. And if I keep my faith and love for God. He will gradually help me overcome them You can continually post that I appear to think I'm saved by my own efforts, even though I continually tell you that it's Christ that is saving me. And without him and the holy spirit I'm nothing. I don't know how many times I have to say this? The works I have to do is, love God with all my heart, have faith, let Christ clean my heart. And live out what the spirit within my heart is teaching me. And deny my sins that are being shown to me and follow Jesus. But I can't do any of this without God, and Christ by the spirit saves me daily, if I die daily. If I didn't have the spirit in my heart, i would fall at the first hurdle, because Satan is too strong for me. And I need Christ to help me overcome! Thanks for clarifying. So I take it that you have been rescued or saved by God otherwise His Holy Spiri wouldn't br living in you .... and you believe that He will continue to save you while you continue to love, trust and serve Him I believe I am saved daily, by the spirit as long as i continue to love God and follow Jesus, I'm saved from Satan because Christ is giving me the strength to overcome. The more I give God my heart. The stronger I become. But, I am flesh, so I do sin, but when I realise I go to God and ask for forgiveness. But i must forgive others also, which I know I couldn't do sometimes without the spirit within. I don't believe that I'm definitely going to heaven, as I said I'm flesh, I can go wrong, I always pray and ask God for his strength and to help me and replace my heart with his, and to keep cleaning me out, because the dust would gather quickly within me if i was without him. So I leave all that in Gods hands and try and die daily and I just go day by day not looking ahead. I leave my whole life in Gods hands. And if I by my faith and through Christ I stay with him and overcome till my last breath, Jesus has said I will be saved. But I may have a long way to go yet, depending how long my life is to be. I was actually thinking about this yesterday. And this came to me If I have household contents insurance, and my household contents gets damaged or burgled. If I'm paying a premium every month I'm covered it gets repaired. But the premium goes up each time i claim and I have to pay a higher price. But I'm still covered. If i don't pay every month, I lose my policy. To regain it. I will have to start with the payments again. And I thought it's like me. The price I have to pay is my life every day to keep the spirit within and for Christ to help me overcome. And if I go wrong, and truly repent, God will help me fix it, if I keep faith and and keep paying the price (death to self). But because I've gone wrong, I then have to try and not let that sin in again. If I change and stop giving God my heart to God, then I'm not covered, and the chief of thieves can break in and destroy and i will have to deal with the cost to put it right and that can be a long haul, because Satan isn't going anywhere without Christ in my heart. So, I have to renew my way of thinking again and turn back to God to be covered again and give my heart to him. But the onus is on me, not God, because he's always there for me. The only way I lose him, is if I turn away.
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Post by snow on Aug 14, 2015 14:45:35 GMT -5
Maryhig, is there provisions in being saved if you turn away from God by no fault of your own? For example Alzheimer or dementia of some sort?
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Post by rational on Aug 14, 2015 15:30:07 GMT -5
Maryhig, is there provisions in being saved if you turn away from God by no fault of your own? For example Alzheimer or dementia of some sort? Or if you are born without essential parts? There is quite a bit written about hell - fire, brimstone, thirst, etc - but not so much written about heaven. Any insight on what the faithful will be doing for eternity?
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Post by snow on Aug 14, 2015 15:35:28 GMT -5
Maryhig, is there provisions in being saved if you turn away from God by no fault of your own? For example Alzheimer or dementia of some sort? Or if you are born without essential parts? There is quite a bit written about hell - fire, brimstone, thirst, etc - but not so much written about heaven. Any insight on what the faithful will be doing for eternity? Yes there is that side of it too. No one ever tells me what I would be doing in heaven. Nathan tells me it is all peace and joy but what would we be 'doing'. Maybe God just has a great big reefer smoking heaven up all the time and people just sit there zoned for eternity...
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