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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 2, 2024 19:43:53 GMT -5
The UN didn't give anyone anything, they just went along with what Israel already did, taking back their homeland via war. Same right now, the UN is demanding a cease fire, but Israel doesn't give a sh1t  ... Score; Israel 2 United Nations zip. It was prophesied and it came to pass, that kind of knocks your so-called 'myth' out of the water. A myth is stupid until its literally validated, then it has credibility and should be re-evaluated by any prudent person.. I know, just a coincidence eh?
If they know about the prophecy, and they make it happen, that's not a prophesy that has come to pass, it's a prophecy they made happen because it was a prophecy. It's a myth because it is based on events that did not happen. eg: The flood and the exodus. |
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Post by Dan on Jun 2, 2024 19:54:20 GMT -5
The UN didn't give anyone anything, they just went along with what Israel already did, taking back their homeland via war. Same right now, the UN is demanding a cease fire, but Israel doesn't give a sh1t ... Score; Israel 2 United Nations zip. It was prophesied and it came to pass, that kind of knocks your so-called 'myth' out of the water. A myth is stupid until its literally validated, then it has credibility and should be re-evaluated by any prudent person.. I know, just a coincidence eh?
If they know about the prophecy, and they make it happen, that's not a prophesy that has come to pass, it's a prophecy they made happen because it was a prophecy.
The Jews were scattered and hated throughout the world, over a third killed in WW2. The fact that they were gathered back into their homeland after nearly 2 millennia was a miracle. Its never happened before, no nation has re-emerged after that long. It would be tantamount to native Americans taking the United States back. Consider there was a divine power that instigated it and not just a group of disgruntled people that managed to make a prophecy come true.
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Post by fixit on Jun 3, 2024 2:28:08 GMT -5
The land that was given to the Jews in 1948 was 80% Jews and 20% Arabs.
If the Arab world had accepted that reality there would have been no refugees.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 3, 2024 12:09:31 GMT -5
The land that was given to the Jews in 1948 was 80% Jews and 20% Arabs. If the Arab world had accepted that reality there would have been no refugees. The land that was given to the Jews was 80% Muslim in 1917. 10% christian and 10% Jew. The increase in jews in Mandatory Palestine between 1917 and 1948 is because of the influx of jewish refugees from Europe. |
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Post by fixit on Jun 3, 2024 15:02:34 GMT -5
The land that was given to the Jews in 1948 was 80% Jews and 20% Arabs. If the Arab world had accepted that reality there would have been no refugees. The land that was given to the Jews was 80% Muslim in 1917. 10% christian and 10% Jew. The increase in jews in Mandatory Palestine between 1917 and 1948 is because of the influx of jewish refugees from Europe. Then Muslims gave Zionism the biggest ever boost... Jewish exodus from the Muslim world |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 3, 2024 15:10:11 GMT -5
The land that was given to the Jews was 80% Muslim in 1917. 10% christian and 10% Jew. The increase in jews in Mandatory Palestine between 1917 and 1948 is because of the influx of jewish refugees from Europe. Then Muslims gave Zionism the biggest ever boost... Jewish exodus from the Muslim worldIt's not a pretty sight is it. |
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Post by xna on Jun 9, 2024 8:53:25 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Jun 9, 2024 14:42:53 GMT -5
It's just getting worse all over. Israel is playing a dangerous game by making many nations around them angry and losing patience with the way they are handling the Gaza crisis. Putin has sent war ships to Cuba along with a nuclear sub. Trump and Putin will be able to have coffee more often now...  although there are rumors that Putin has a back up plan of fleeing to Venezuela if the war with Ukraine fails. But he has declared the US an enemy state. www.newsweek.com/putin-escape-plan-venezuela-russia-loses-war-1765383#:~:text=Abbas%20Gallyamov%2C%20who%20is%20also,top%20leadership%20fleeing%20to%20Venezuela. |
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Post by snow on Jun 9, 2024 15:37:52 GMT -5
Interesting video. I always thought everyone knew Israel had nuclear weapons but never realized that Israel has neither confirmed they do nor has said they don't. Apparently they kept it a secret from the US for a good period of time. Non-NPT Nuclear Weapons Possessors:
India, Pakistan, and Israel never joined the NPT and are known to possess nuclear weapons. India first tested a nuclear explosive device in 1974. That test spurred Pakistan to ramp up work on its secret nuclear weapons program. India and Pakistan both publicly demonstrated their nuclear weapon capabilities with a round of tit-for-tat nuclear tests in May 1998. Israel has not publicly conducted a nuclear test but is universally believed to possess nuclear arms. www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/the-us-discovery-israels-secret-nuclear-project#:~:text=By%20early%201956%2C%20as%20French,a%20French%2DIsraeli%20nuclear%20deal. |
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Post by xna on Jun 10, 2024 15:24:17 GMT -5
It's speculated that Israel and South Africa collaborated on nuclear weapons development, including nuclear tests in the South Atlantic and that Israel has between 80 to 400 nuclear warheads. |
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Post by snow on Jun 10, 2024 15:29:12 GMT -5
It's speculated that Israel and South Africa collaborated on nuclear weapons development, including nuclear tests in the South Atlantic and that Israel has between 80 to 400 nuclear warheads. What I find interesting is that Israel has never confirmed that they have nukes nor have they said they don't. Why the secrecy? So what if they have nukes and the world knows for sure they do? I would imagine that the knowledge that Israel has nukes is one reason for the surrounding countries having some restraint? However, it's now looking like they might be getting into it with Lebanon! Do they have a death wish? www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/4/hezbollah-ready-for-an-all-out-war-with-israel-deputy-head-says |
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Post by xna on Jun 10, 2024 17:10:40 GMT -5
What I find interesting is that Israel has never confirmed that they have nukes nor have they said they don't. Why the secrecy? So what if they have nukes and the world knows for sure they do? I would imagine that the knowledge that Israel has nukes is one reason for the surrounding countries having some restraint? However, it's now looking like they might be getting into it with Lebanon! Do they have a death wish? www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/4/hezbollah-ready-for-an-all-out-war-with-israel-deputy-head-saysThe cat has been out of bag for a long time. |
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Post by Dan on Jun 10, 2024 21:29:35 GMT -5
It's speculated that Israel and South Africa collaborated on nuclear weapons development, including nuclear tests in the South Atlantic and that Israel has between 80 to 400 nuclear warheads. What I find interesting is that Israel has never confirmed that they have nukes nor have they said they don't. Why the secrecy? So what if they have nukes and the world knows for sure they do? I would imagine that the knowledge that Israel has nukes is one reason for the surrounding countries having some restraint? However, it's now looking like they might be getting into it with Lebanon! Do they have a death wish? www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/4/hezbollah-ready-for-an-all-out-war-with-israel-deputy-head-says
Its Lebanon that has a death wish if they continue to irritate Israel. Remember the Lebanon Israeli war in 1982 when Israel mowed through the entire country, Netanyahu could do it again after he's finished with Hamas.
Israeli Tanks in downtown Beirut in early 80's
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Post by snow on Jun 11, 2024 16:47:16 GMT -5
What I find interesting is that Israel has never confirmed that they have nukes nor have they said they don't. Why the secrecy? So what if they have nukes and the world knows for sure they do? I would imagine that the knowledge that Israel has nukes is one reason for the surrounding countries having some restraint? However, it's now looking like they might be getting into it with Lebanon! Do they have a death wish? www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/4/hezbollah-ready-for-an-all-out-war-with-israel-deputy-head-saysIts Lebanon that has a death wish if they continue to irritate Israel. Remember the Lebanon Israeli war in 1982 when Israel mowed through the entire country, Netanyahu could do it again after he's finished with Hamas.
Israeli Tanks in downtown Beirut in early 80's
It's not just Lebanon that will get into it with Israel imo. They are alienating all the countries around them, Egypt included. These countries are not countries that have liked Israel but have tolerated them. But what Israel is doing in Gaza has turned the world against them and I would not be surprised to see those countries feeling supported to do something to stop it. The Israeli government is doing things that are directly going to put the Israeli citizens at risk. Many in Israel do not support what is happening, what their government is doing and for good reason. I recognize that you will never understand that or believe it, because you believe God won't allow anything to happen to Israel. I sincerely hope you're right because they are pushing too many buttons in the countries around them right now. The video on the Iranian being cursed is just the kind of dangerous rhetoric that causes so much trouble in the Middle East. Jews are no more special than any other human that walks this earth. To state what he states is just the kind of thing that has brought so much suffering on the Jewish people. These people who think like that think they are special, that nothing they do is wrong and that they will be protected from any kind of behavior they should wish to indulge themselves in. It does the Jewish people no favors and imo endangers them even more. |
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Post by fixit on Jun 11, 2024 21:27:26 GMT -5
A lot of people around the world are telling Israel to stop fighting their enemies but I'm not hearing much about security guarantees for Israel and how their borders are to be secured.
We don't hear much about the 200,000 Israelis who were evacuated from the border areas and how they can all get back home.
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Post by Dan on Jun 11, 2024 23:18:46 GMT -5
It's not just Lebanon that will get into it with Israel imo. They are alienating all the countries around them, Egypt included. These countries are not countries that have liked Israel but have tolerated them. But what Israel is doing in Gaza has turned the world against them and I would not be surprised to see those countries feeling supported to do something to stop it. The Israeli government is doing things that are directly going to put the Israeli citizens at risk. Many in Israel do not support what is happening, what their government is doing and for good reason. I recognize that you will never understand that or believe it, because you believe God won't allow anything to happen to Israel. I sincerely hope you're right because they are pushing too many buttons in the countries around them right now. The video on the Iranian being cursed is just the kind of dangerous rhetoric that causes so much trouble in the Middle East. Jews are no more special than any other human that walks this earth. To state what he states is just the kind of thing that has brought so much suffering on the Jewish people. These people who think like that think they are special, that nothing they do is wrong and that they will be protected from any kind of behavior they should wish to indulge themselves in. It does the Jewish people no favors and imo endangers them even more.
Imo, they are simply killing terrorist, they have no choice but to eliminate Hamas, otherwise they will simply re-organize and continue to launch future attacks into Israel. If the rest of the world and surrounding countries really cared, they'd offer safe haven for the Palestinian refugees until Israel completed their mission and the war ended. But they just condemn Israels effort of self-preservation and offer lip service for a permanent solution. Its sad for the Palestinians who get no help from fellow Muslims, but collateral casualties are a fact of war, especially when the enemy takes refuge among civilians. WW2 claimed 70 million lives and the vast majority were civilians.
Consider the Assyrians, Babylonians, Germans, etc. They were all destroyed as Jonathan Cahn said, so the Abrahamic Covenant rings true, "Cursed be those who curse you, And blessed be those who bless you" (Genesis 27:29, Numbers 24:9).
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Post by xna on Jul 24, 2024 13:57:25 GMT -5
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Post by fixit on Jul 24, 2024 14:12:53 GMT -5
It's a bad idea to start a war.
Wars get people killed and create a lot of suffering.
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Post by xna on Jul 25, 2024 7:32:59 GMT -5
It's a bad idea to start a war. Wars get people killed and create a lot of suffering. This is not the start of, but the continuation of, a long conflict. www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-44124396 |
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Post by fixit on Jul 25, 2024 15:25:03 GMT -5
It's a bad idea to start a war. Wars get people killed and create a lot of suffering. This is not the start of, but the continuation of, a long conflict. www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-44124396According to the UN Gaza has been occupied by Israel yet ruled by Hamas who won an election there. If Israel was occupying Gaza they didn't do a good enough job of it. |
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Post by xna on Jul 25, 2024 16:03:23 GMT -5
According to the UN Gaza has been occupied by Israel yet ruled by Hamas who won an election there.
If Israel was occupying Gaza they didn't do a good enough job of it. They will continue fighting as long as they hold to their religions. There religions tell them who is the enemy. Hatred for each other is baked into each of their religions / culture. The only hope for peace is if they become secular and let go of the old way of thinking. Psalm 83:2-5:
"See how your enemies growl, how your foes rear their heads. With cunning they conspire against your people; they plot against those you cherish. 'Come,' they say, 'let us destroy them as a nation, so that Israel’s name is remembered no more.' With one mind they plot together; they form an alliance against you."
Surah Al-Baqarah (2:120):
"And never will the Jews or the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, 'Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the only guidance.' If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allah no protector or helper."
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Post by fixit on Jul 25, 2024 23:49:04 GMT -5
According to the UN Gaza has been occupied by Israel yet ruled by Hamas who won an election there.
If Israel was occupying Gaza they didn't do a good enough job of it. They will continue fighting as long as they hold to their religions. There religions tell them who is the enemy. Hatred for each other is baked into each of their religions / culture. The only hope for peace is if they become secular and let go of the old way of thinking. Growing numbers of Arabs are joining the Israeli military. Sgt. Saleh Halil is one: "It doesn't matter if you are Muslim, Jewish or Christian," he said. "We're all the same with one helping the other." www.nbcnews.com/news/world/arab-israelis-are-joining-idf-growing-numbers-officials-n724586They take their oath to the state while holding the Quran, rather than the Bible as Jewish soldiers do. |
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Post by xna on Jul 26, 2024 8:00:29 GMT -5
Very few Arabs are in the IDF. They are mainly Druze and Circassians. 20% of Israel's population is Arab, of that 20% only about 1% serve in the army. |
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Post by snow on Jul 26, 2024 14:13:28 GMT -5
Now that there are 3 terrorist groups attacking Israel that are backed by Iran, Israel needs to think long and hard just how many of the surrounding countries they want to get involved with. I said this at the beginning when the genocide was becoming a very unpopular issue worldwide. Does Israel think they are invincible? This is not a could situation for them. There is no point in them having nucs because if they use them it will annihilate them too. Not much distance between countries there. It's like Israel has a death wish. They have just taken and taken and continue to take land that was not awarded them and then they wonder why everyone surrounding them is upset. I feel so bad for the Israeli people who have to endure under their current government. Many are speaking out against their government and the situation that government has gotten them into.
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Post by Mary on Jul 26, 2024 15:01:01 GMT -5
Very few Arabs are in the IDF. They are mainly Druze and Circassians. 20% of Israel's population is Arab, of that 20% only about 1% serve in the army. Look at who Saudi is supporting - internal sources say Israel. |
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Post by xna on Jul 26, 2024 15:09:29 GMT -5
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Post by xna on Jul 26, 2024 19:52:23 GMT -5
Now that there are 3 terrorist groups attacking Israel that are backed by Iran, Israel needs to think long and hard just how many of the surrounding countries they want to get involved with. I said this at the beginning when the genocide was becoming a very unpopular issue worldwide. Does Israel think they are invincible? This is not a could situation for them. There is no point in them having nucs because if they use them it will annihilate them too. Not much distance between countries there. It's like Israel has a death wish. They have just taken and taken and continue to take land that was not awarded them and then they wonder why everyone surrounding them is upset. I feel so bad for the Israeli people who have to endure under their current government. Many are speaking out against their government and the situation that government has gotten them into. They are counting on the USA always coming to their aid in any war, so this emboldens them. |
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Post by Dan on Jul 26, 2024 23:41:08 GMT -5
Now that there are 3 terrorist groups attacking Israel that are backed by Iran, Israel needs to think long and hard just how many of the surrounding countries they want to get involved with. I said this at the beginning when the genocide was becoming a very unpopular issue worldwide. Does Israel think they are invincible? This is not a could situation for them. There is no point in them having nucs because if they use them it will annihilate them too. Not much distance between countries there. It's like Israel has a death wish. They have just taken and taken and continue to take land that was not awarded them and then they wonder why everyone surrounding them is upset. I feel so bad for the Israeli people who have to endure under their current government. Many are speaking out against their government and the situation that government has gotten them into.
The Jews have never finished the job, From King Saul to Joshua, they failed to destroy their enemies and its always come back to haunt them. We are coming up on a year and they're still screwing around with a 24 mile strip of land. If they surrender to Hamas now, their future will be bleak and their enemies emboldened. The world is already pissed, so they may as well finish and win the war, prolonging it is just creating agony. There will never be a 2 state solution, it hasn't worked for decades and its prophecy. Israel will never be defeated, but they will be brought to the brink of destruction, that's when Christ steps into the picture and clobbers all their enemies.
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... Score; Israel 2 United Nations zip. 
although there are rumors that Putin has a back up plan of fleeing to Venezuela if the war with Ukraine fails. But he has declared the US an enemy state.
