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Post by xna on Oct 14, 2023 13:54:18 GMT -5
Keeping score in war.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 15, 2023 3:00:58 GMT -5
Has there been any Jewish space lasers used yet?
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Post by snow on Oct 15, 2023 17:18:13 GMT -5
Has there been any Jewish space lasers used yet? They only use them to light forest fires in California...  |
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Post by xna on Oct 17, 2023 11:22:52 GMT -5
Another way to keep score
S&P 500 Oct 5th 2023 4,258 Hamas attack
S&P 500 Oct 17th 2023 4,387 Today
S&P 500 is up 3% as of today, since the Hamas attack.
Coincidence, Correlation, or Causation?
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Post by xna on Oct 17, 2023 13:40:54 GMT -5
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Post by christiansburg on Oct 17, 2023 13:54:25 GMT -5
Hearing on the news that this hospital strike and deaths was likely a misfire of Hamas weapons killing their own people. Has happened before. |
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Post by xna on Oct 17, 2023 14:04:35 GMT -5
Hearing on the news that this hospital strike and deaths was likely a misfire of Hamas weapons killing their own people. Has happened before. It could be, but we may never know the true story. " The first casualty, when war comes, is truth" - Hiram Johnson (1866-1945) |
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Post by xna on Oct 17, 2023 19:44:21 GMT -5
Some examples in history where hospital have been targeted.
The Kunduz Hospital Airstrike (2015): In October 2015, a Doctors Without Borders hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan,
was hit by an airstrike conducted by United States forces. The attack resulted in the deaths of dozens of people, including medical staff and patients.
The Aleppo Hospital Bombings (2016): During the Syrian Civil War, hospitals in the city of Aleppo were repeatedly targeted by various parties to the conflict. These attacks disrupted medical services and resulted in the loss of numerous lives.
The Balkan Wars (1990s): During the conflicts in the Balkans, hospitals were targeted in the wars in Bosnia and Croatia. The deliberate targeting of medical facilities was a significant concern during these conflicts.
The Yemen Conflict (various): Hospitals and healthcare facilities in Yemen have been repeatedly targeted during the Yemeni Civil War, affecting the country's healthcare system and leaving civilians without access to vital medical services.
The Gaza Conflict (various): In the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict, there have been reports of hospitals and medical facilities in Gaza being damaged or attacked during periods of hostilities. These attacks have raised international concerns and debates.
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Post by xna on Oct 19, 2023 14:42:01 GMT -5
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Post by fixit on Oct 19, 2023 21:12:30 GMT -5
If you want to be objective you'll need to list it like... 1. Palestinians killed by Israelis 2. Palestinians killed by Palestinians 3. Israelis killed by Palestinians. |
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Post by xna on Oct 19, 2023 21:23:08 GMT -5
If you want to be objective you'll need to list it like... 1. Palestinians killed by Israelis 2. Palestinians killed by Palestinians 3. Israelis killed by Palestinians. I would be happy to use that format. Where can I get that data? |
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Post by fixit on Oct 20, 2023 3:51:34 GMT -5
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 20, 2023 5:02:18 GMT -5
It was the UN that set up Israel. Resolution 181. |
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Post by xna on Oct 20, 2023 6:10:56 GMT -5
Sounds like you don’t believe CNN is telling an accurate story. |
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Post by fixit on Oct 20, 2023 13:16:23 GMT -5
Sounds like you don’t believe CNN is telling an accurate story. I don't know what you're referring to but I do appreciate that CNN reported the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital explosion as a "blast" and let the Israeli military give their side of the story. A lot of other media including Aljazeera reported it as an Israeli airstrike, inciting protests and violence all around the world including attacks on Israeli embassies. |
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Post by fixit on Oct 20, 2023 13:22:05 GMT -5
It was the UN that set up Israel. Resolution 181. The UN set up a two-state solution but the Arabs have been fighting against it ever since which has made Israel stronger. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 20, 2023 13:54:51 GMT -5
It was the UN that set up Israel. Resolution 181. The UN set up a two-state solution but the Arabs have been fighting against it ever since which has made Israel stronger. That's correct. How do you justify the annexation of someones land for the benefit of another? The 1947 resolution is probably the greatest injustice in modern times, foisted upon a people without any input from them. Remember, in 1947 Palestine was British territory. The Palestinians had no input into the UN resolution. The British actually did not want to do this and passed the buck to the UN. The furher annexation of land by the jews has exacerbated the situation. This is colonialism at its worst. ps... back to watching the game. Gotta get my priorities right this morning. |
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Post by xna on Oct 20, 2023 14:52:05 GMT -5
Sounds like you don’t believe CNN is telling an accurate story.
A lot of other media including Aljazeera reported it as an Israeli airstrike, inciting protests and violence all around the world including attacks on Israeli embassies.The numbers I posted in that post came from the CNN link in that same post. This was the hypertext link to the CNN numbers that I used As of Oct. 19, according to authorities on both sides.From your reply; "Do you want to get your data from Hamas and their buddies (who include the UN and aid organisations? Or the Israeli military)I understood you didn't agree with CNN's numbers. |
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Post by fixit on Oct 20, 2023 16:39:39 GMT -5
I don't know what you're referring to but I do appreciate that CNN reported the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital explosion as a "blast" and let the Israeli military give their side of the story.
A lot of other media including Aljazeera reported it as an Israeli airstrike, inciting protests and violence all around the world including attacks on Israeli embassies. The numbers I posted in that post came from the CNN link in that same post. This was the hypertext link to the CNN numbers that I used As of Oct. 19, according to authorities on both sides.From your reply; "Do you want to get your data from Hamas and their buddies (who include the UN and aid organisations? Or the Israeli military)I understood you didn't agree with CNN's numbers. Sorry, it was a rhetorical question and not referring to your data source. The point is, it seems that Palestinians kill more Palestinians than Israelis do, but it's hard if not impossible to get accurate data. |
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Post by fixit on Oct 20, 2023 16:45:33 GMT -5
The UN set up a two-state solution but the Arabs have been fighting against it ever since which has made Israel stronger. That's correct. How do you justify the annexation of someones land for the benefit of another? The 1947 resolution is probably the greatest injustice in modern times, foisted upon a people without any input from them. Remember, in 1947 Palestine was British territory. The Palestinians had no input into the UN resolution. The British actually did not want to do this and passed the buck to the UN. The furher annexation of land by the jews has exacerbated the situation. This is colonialism at its worst. ps... back to watching the game. Gotta get my priorities right this morning. The point is, the Jews were happy to share Palestine with the Arabs but the Arabs refused to share Palestine with the Jews. Land for peace was a dismal failure. So annexation is Plan B. Annexing land was part of Israel's struggle for survival against enemies who want to destroy them. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 20, 2023 17:50:04 GMT -5
That's correct. How do you justify the annexation of someones land for the benefit of another? The 1947 resolution is probably the greatest injustice in modern times, foisted upon a people without any input from them. Remember, in 1947 Palestine was British territory. The Palestinians had no input into the UN resolution. The British actually did not want to do this and passed the buck to the UN. The furher annexation of land by the jews has exacerbated the situation. This is colonialism at its worst. ps... back to watching the game. Gotta get my priorities right this morning. The point is, the Jews were happy to share Palestine with the Arabs but the Arabs refused to share Palestine with the Jews. Land for peace was a dismal failure. So annexation is Plan B. Annexing land was part of Israel's struggle for survival against enemies who want to destroy them. The jews started arriving back in Palestine in droves when the Nazis came to power in the 1930's. Despite it being a British mandate they were causing trouble back then and wanted the British out. At one stage the British stopped jew immigration because of the trouble they were causing. The root cause of this trouble goes all the way back to olf testament times and the inane belief in the promised land. Mythology and religion are a dangerous combination |
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 20, 2023 17:57:53 GMT -5
That's correct. How do you justify the annexation of someones land for the benefit of another? The 1947 resolution is probably the greatest injustice in modern times, foisted upon a people without any input from them. Remember, in 1947 Palestine was British territory. The Palestinians had no input into the UN resolution. The British actually did not want to do this and passed the buck to the UN. The furher annexation of land by the jews has exacerbated the situation. This is colonialism at its worst. ps... back to watching the game. Gotta get my priorities right this morning. The point is, the Jews were happy to share Palestine with the Arabs but the Arabs refused to share Palestine with the Jews. Land for peace was a dismal failure. So annexation is Plan B. Annexing land was part of Israel's struggle for survival against enemies who want to destroy them. Very long time ago I was following the establishment of the state of Israel. We don't hear anything any more about how there came to be Jews in Palestine prior to statehood, how they got there, how they acquired land there, and the world politics that fermented the hatred between the Palestinians and the Jewish people. Bottom line, the Christians of today conveniently forget their own hatred of Jews at that time, and the Jews did what they had to do. The rest of the world has forgotten, but the Jews have not. |
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Post by fixit on Oct 20, 2023 22:37:52 GMT -5
The point is, the Jews were happy to share Palestine with the Arabs but the Arabs refused to share Palestine with the Jews. Land for peace was a dismal failure. So annexation is Plan B. Annexing land was part of Israel's struggle for survival against enemies who want to destroy them. The jews started arriving back in Palestine in droves when the Nazis came to power in the 1930's. Despite it being a British mandate they were causing trouble back then and wanted the British out. At one stage the British stopped jew immigration because of the trouble they were causing. The root cause of this trouble goes all the way back to olf testament times and the inane belief in the promised land. Mythology and religion are a dangerous combination It's not all about religion. Secular Jews are persecuted as well. If there had been no persecution of Jews, few of them would be living in Palestine. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 20, 2023 23:17:47 GMT -5
There have been rumors that the Gaza Hospital had been bombed by an Islamist group
in Gaza. It's crossed my mind that there may just be a bit of logic to that -- it
was, after all, a Baptist hospital.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 20, 2023 23:26:09 GMT -5
The jews started arriving back in Palestine in droves when the Nazis came to power in the 1930's. Despite it being a British mandate they were causing trouble back then and wanted the British out. At one stage the British stopped jew immigration because of the trouble they were causing. The root cause of this trouble goes all the way back to olf testament times and the inane belief in the promised land. Mythology and religion are a dangerous combination It's not all about religion. Secular Jews are persecuted as well. If there had been no persecution of Jews, few of them would be living in Palestine. That's right, there is lots of money to be made in Europe which the jews are very good at. I take my hat off to them. One of the best feeds of pork chops I had was cooked by a couple of Israeli climbers. just sayin. the only thing missing was the watercress. |
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Post by Dan on Oct 21, 2023 2:41:39 GMT -5
That's right, there is lots of money to be made in Europe which the jews are very good at. I take my hat off to them. One of the best feeds of pork chops I had was cooked by a couple of Israeli climbers. just sayin. the only thing missing was the watercress.
And pork chops aren't even kosher!  |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 21, 2023 4:28:22 GMT -5
That's right, there is lots of money to be made in Europe which the jews are very good at. I take my hat off to them. One of the best feeds of pork chops I had was cooked by a couple of Israeli climbers. just sayin. the only thing missing was the watercress.
And pork chops aren't even kosher! Neither are lamb chops? |
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 21, 2023 23:43:27 GMT -5
And pork chops aren't even kosher! Neither are lamb chops? WOuldn't that one be depending on how it was killed? |
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