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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 21, 2023 23:52:17 GMT -5
WOuldn't that one be depending on how it was killed? From what I have read about kosher food, it was only the forequarters that were acceptable as they contained very little if any blood during the butchering process. Forequarters over here in NZ are thrown to the dogs as they are certainly not a prime cut. Chops come from the rib cage so they are not kosher as too much blood. Ditto for rear quarters and the tastiest bit of meat, the back steak. All these cannot be kosher due to the amount of blood involved in butchering that part of the animal. Having read about this several times over the years I figure the jewish god to be quite wasteful. Who the hell would eat a forequarter and leave the back steaks behind? |
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 22, 2023 0:02:03 GMT -5
WOuldn't that one be depending on how it was killed? From what I have read about kosher food, it was only the forequarters that were acceptable as they contained very little if any blood during the butchering process. Forequarters over here in NZ are thrown to the dogs as they are certainly not a prime cut. Chops come from the rib cage so they are not kosher as too much blood. Ditto for rear quarters and the tastiest bit of meat, the back steak. All these cannot be kosher due to the amount of blood involved in butchering that part of the animal. Having read about this several times over the years I figure the jewish god to be quite wasteful. Who the hell would eat a forequarter and leave the back steaks behind? I find it interesting going to a restaurant with my Jewish brother in law. I can't imagine having to live around those dietary rules, but eating at his house is really great. The hard part of that is that I always make a mistake when it comes to which dishes go into which dish washer.  |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 22, 2023 0:22:34 GMT -5
From what I have read about kosher food, it was only the forequarters that were acceptable as they contained very little if any blood during the butchering process. Forequarters over here in NZ are thrown to the dogs as they are certainly not a prime cut. Chops come from the rib cage so they are not kosher as too much blood. Ditto for rear quarters and the tastiest bit of meat, the back steak. All these cannot be kosher due to the amount of blood involved in butchering that part of the animal. Having read about this several times over the years I figure the jewish god to be quite wasteful. Who the hell would eat a forequarter and leave the back steaks behind? I find it interesting going to a restaurant with my Jewish brother in law. I can't imagine having to live around those dietary rules, but eating at his house is really great. The hard part of that is that I always make a mistake when it comes to which dishes go into which dish washer. A NZ company called Fisher and Paykel recognised that issue and built a double drawer dishwasher just for the American jews. What i would struggle with is the seperation of meat and dairy. My favourite drink is tea with a little milk in it. I often have that just after a meal. If I was a jew i would be off to hell in a handcart. I have just had a feed of bacon and eggs with tomatoes and mushrooms. The eggs had a spot or two of blood which would make them unacceptable in the eyes of a jew. The bacon is unacceptable too. I have wondered sometimes whether the dietary rules of the jews were too protect them from certain illness's such as Creutzfeldt-Jakob and its cousin, bovine spongiform encephalopathy. Pigs feed on dead animals including spinal/brain tissue. This is where those diseases start I think. Correct me if I am wrong please. Some one may have recognised a link between a diet of pork and the above diseases. And that's a very slim maybe as the diseases have a very long gestation period. |
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Post by xna on Oct 22, 2023 14:44:02 GMT -5
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Post by fixit on Oct 22, 2023 20:12:11 GMT -5
Aljazeera are unreliable. They reported the Hamas fake narrative about Israel bombing Al-Ahli Hospital.
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Post by xna on Oct 22, 2023 20:16:44 GMT -5
Aljazeera are unreliable. They reported the Hamas fake narrative about Israel bombing Al-Ahli Hospital. This is the latest update I have found. They do quote their sources. Self reporting is one of the less accurate accounting methods, but that’s what we have to work with today. Information in time of war is also suspect. |
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Post by snow on Oct 23, 2023 15:07:55 GMT -5
I don't think we can totally believe everything Israeli government reports either. We have to make do with the sources we have. It's war so I doubt that either side of the spectrum is to be completely trusted.
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Post by xna on Oct 23, 2023 15:12:39 GMT -5
I don't think we can totally believe everything Israeli government reports either. We have to make do with the sources we have. It's war so I doubt that either side of the spectrum is to be completely trusted. Will all the bombing, probably no one knows how many have been killed. At this point, without water for days, I suspect many are dying from thirst. |
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Post by snow on Oct 23, 2023 15:31:08 GMT -5
I don't think we can totally believe everything Israeli government reports either. We have to make do with the sources we have. It's war so I doubt that either side of the spectrum is to be completely trusted. Will all the bombing, probably no one knows how many have been killed. At this point, without water for days, I suspect many are dying from thirst. Yes I'm sure there is no way to know how many died in the bombing and the fact that they have been cut off from water. I so hate this.  |
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Post by xna on Oct 23, 2023 15:37:13 GMT -5
90% of Gaza's water comes from desalination plants which run on diesel. That fuel is been shut down.
Pretty soon I expect there will be comparisons of conditions in Gaza to the Jewish concentration camps.
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Post by xna on Oct 23, 2023 19:55:10 GMT -5
They must be doing a lot of praying going on now in Gaza. I wonder if their suffering will cause them to loose their faith, like some of the Jews did.  |
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 23, 2023 20:19:53 GMT -5
90% of Gaza's water comes from desalination plants which run on diesel. That fuel is been shut down. Pretty soon I expect there will be comparisons of conditions in Gaza to the Jewish concentration camps. I just saw on the news a clip from southern Gaza where a father was saying that the water his kids were having to drink was as bad as toilet water. |
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Post by xna on Oct 23, 2023 20:30:24 GMT -5
90% of Gaza's water comes from desalination plants which run on diesel. That fuel is been shut down. Pretty soon I expect there will be comparisons of conditions in Gaza to the Jewish concentration camps.
the water his kids were having to drink was as bad as toilet water.From this clip. "In similar conflicts .... more people die from infectious diseases than from bombs or bullets." |
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Post by xna on Oct 24, 2023 13:06:35 GMT -5
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Post by xna on Oct 26, 2023 8:07:21 GMT -5
5:1 current death ratio
1:1 eye for an eye ratio
>6,500 Palestinians killed
90 Palestinians killed in the West Bank
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6,590 Biden denies accuracy of Gaza casualty numbers
1,400 people in Israel
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Post by snow on Oct 26, 2023 13:50:11 GMT -5
I wonder just how supportive the US would be of Israel if the people leading the US were not Christians that believe they need the Jews to be protected in order for their chosen one to return and the end times. That is definitely at least a small part of the support Israel at all costs. They are believed with out questioning just because they are Israel. I think that Israel is not innocent when it comes to how they have dealt with the Palestinians. The world turns it's back when they settle in areas that were not theirs. The Palestinians just don't matter in comparison to Israelis. I don't want the Israelis to be targeted and I don't want the Palestinians to be targeted. The people of both groups are the victims of their governments. Netanyahu got booted for his corruption and then he joined forces with an ultra conservative Orthodox group to get into power again. This group has such a low opinion of Palestinians that their members have actually said that Palestinians are human animals. When they demote humans to the level of animals they are far more likely to be inhumane to that group of people. I agree that the Hamas needs to be dealt with. There are ways to do that without the wholesale slaughter of civilians. I feel so sorry for the people on both sides of this war. There is such an imbalance between the capabilities of war of these two groups. It's such a mess.
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Post by xna on Oct 26, 2023 15:04:06 GMT -5
I wonder just how supportive the US would be of Israel if the people leading the US were not Christians that believe they need the Jews to be protected in order for their chosen one to return and the end times. That is definitely at least a small part of the support Israel at all costs. They are believed with out questioning just because they are Israel. I think that Israel is not innocent when it comes to how they have dealt with the Palestinians. The world turns it's back when they settle in areas that were not theirs. The Palestinians just don't matter in comparison to Israelis. I don't want the Israelis to be targeted and I don't want the Palestinians to be targeted. The people of both groups are the victims of their governments. Netanyahu got booted for his corruption and then he joined forces with an ultra conservative Orthodox group to get into power again. This group has such a low opinion of Palestinians that their members have actually said that Palestinians are human animals. When they demote humans to the level of animals they are far more likely to be inhumane to that group of people. I agree that the Hamas needs to be dealt with. There are ways to do that without the wholesale slaughter of civilians. I feel so sorry for the people on both sides of this war. There is such an imbalance between the capabilities of war of these two groups. It's such a mess. I agree. It's a big mess. Religion stoking the fire. I keep thinking about the phrase I heard; " They brought it on themselves". A can see that a case could be made to use this condemnation against Palestinians, and also against the Jews. |
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Post by Annan on Oct 26, 2023 16:34:51 GMT -5
I wonder just how supportive the US would be of Israel if the people leading the US were not Christians that believe they need the Jews to be protected in order for their chosen one to return and the end times. That is definitely at least a small part of the support Israel at all costs. They are believed with out questioning just because they are Israel. I think that Israel is not innocent when it comes to how they have dealt with the Palestinians. The world turns it's back when they settle in areas that were not theirs. The Palestinians just don't matter in comparison to Israelis. I don't want the Israelis to be targeted and I don't want the Palestinians to be targeted. The people of both groups are the victims of their governments. Netanyahu got booted for his corruption and then he joined forces with an ultra conservative Orthodox group to get into power again. This group has such a low opinion of Palestinians that their members have actually said that Palestinians are human animals. When they demote humans to the level of animals they are far more likely to be inhumane to that group of people. I agree that the Hamas needs to be dealt with. There are ways to do that without the wholesale slaughter of civilians. I feel so sorry for the people on both sides of this war. There is such an imbalance between the capabilities of war of these two groups. It's such a mess. I agree. It's a big mess. Religion stoking the fire. I keep thinking about the phrase I heard; " They brought it on themselves". A can see that a case could be made to use this condemnation against Palestinians, and also against the Jews. A one of Jewish heritage, it was a hard pill to swallow learning that when Jews settled in Germany, they bought up businesses properties during both WWI and WW2 and did not fight for the country they lived in. They did indeed set themselves up. |
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Post by xna on Oct 26, 2023 17:04:51 GMT -5
A one of Jewish heritage, it was a hard pill to swallow learning that when Jews settled in Germany, they bought up businesses properties during both WWI and WW2 and did not fight for the country they lived in. They did indeed set themselves up. I'm told by an Israeli Jew, who escaped from a concentration camp, that my last name before it was Americanized is a common Jewish name in Germany. He claims I come from the Jews.  Our family records goes back 13 generations in America, and all were Christian. This Israeli Jews tell me everyone came from either a Jew, or an Arab. |
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Post by xna on Oct 26, 2023 20:36:57 GMT -5
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Post by Annan on Oct 27, 2023 2:37:10 GMT -5
A one of Jewish heritage, it was a hard pill to swallow learning that when Jews settled in Germany, they bought up businesses properties during both WWI and WW2 and did not fight for the country they lived in. They did indeed set themselves up. I'm told by an Israeli Jew, who escaped from a concentration camp, that my last name before it was Americanized is a common Jewish name in Germany. He claims I come from the Jews. Our family records goes back 13 generations in America, and all were Christian. This Israeli Jews tell me everyone came from either a Jew, or an Arab. Unless you can trace your family tree, it's hard to tell who is which, what kind of, and how many. Ha. My father's last name was common with German Jews, but the spelling was changed as my ancestors came through different ports on their way to America as those keeping records didn't always speak the same language. Yes. I was told the same growing up that everyone is either a Jew or an Arab. If you go back 13 generations, your family was here long before mine. There are several towns in my state are named and settled by my ancestors. What is very interesting to me is that when I researched my family tree that there are a lot of Norwegians and Swedish woman who married into my blood line on my father's side. I'm rather diluted. Haha. |
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Post by xna on Oct 27, 2023 6:51:57 GMT -5
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Post by xna on Oct 27, 2023 17:50:02 GMT -5
If you go back 13 generations, your family was here long before mine. I'm not into genealogy, but some in the family were. There is a pretty detailed record starting with the 1st guy in the USA who was born 1698. I once went to Germany to see the town where he was born, near Hanover. |
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Post by Annan on Oct 28, 2023 6:44:15 GMT -5
If you go back 13 generations, your family was here long before mine. I'm not into genealogy, but some in the family were. There is a pretty detailed record starting with the 1st guy in the USA who was born 1698. I once went to Germany to see the town where he was born, near Hanover. My father's family was from the Rhineland. What is very interesting to me is that my husband's family can be traced to the same region. We can't verify for sure, but it seems one of his ancestors was married to one of my ancestors before they migrated to the USA. My family came over right before the Holocaust. They settled in New Jersey and then migrated to Pennsylvania. I love the records of my great grandfather's store where inventory was done after he passed. They listed every little detail. He owned a bar in the basement of the store, which was a surprise considering the number of religious women in the family. My great grandmother on my dad's side brought the 2x2 faith to the family. |
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Post by xna on Oct 29, 2023 14:09:42 GMT -5
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Post by xna on Oct 31, 2023 20:41:16 GMT -5
... and the death count rises.
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Post by xna on Oct 31, 2023 20:48:33 GMT -5
64 UN aid workers killed
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Post by xna on Nov 1, 2023 10:27:45 GMT -5
Exodus 21:24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot
The Jewish law of justice is an eye for eye, or a 1:1 ratio for justice.
The ratio is now 6:1, and I expect it will increase.
Lets use 2 million as the number Palestinians in Gaza.
It’s reasonable to expect some Palestinians will be killed in retaliation for the 1,400 Israelis killed.
So far about 8,800 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza.
How many, is too many Palestinians killed?
It seems clear to me that if Israel killed 1 million Palestinians in Gaza, that would be genocide.
But what if 500,000 Palestinians are killed, is that genocide?
But what if 50,000 Palestinians are killed, is that genocide?
Where does retaliation end, and genocide begins?
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Our family records goes back 13 generations in America, and all were Christian. This Israeli Jews tell me everyone came from either a Jew, or an Arab. 