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Post by xna on May 8, 2024 17:40:40 GMT -5
An interesting take on Netanyahu & Gaza
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Post by xna on May 8, 2024 18:49:30 GMT -5
Chris Hedges explains Israel's master plan for Gaza and it is horrifying.
Chris Hedges is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who was a foreign correspondent for fifteen years for The New York Times, where he served as the Middle East Bureau Chief and Balkan Bureau Chief for the paper.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 8, 2024 22:52:24 GMT -5
Chris Hedges explains Israel's master plan for Gaza and it is horrifying.
Chris Hedges is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who was a foreign correspondent for fifteen years for The New York Times, where he served as the Middle East Bureau Chief and Balkan Bureau Chief for the paper. There's a serious lack of appropriate education on the meaning and work of such political ideologies. |
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Post by fixit on May 8, 2024 23:18:32 GMT -5
Chris Hedges explains Israel's master plan for Gaza and it is horrifying.
Chris Hedges is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who was a foreign correspondent for fifteen years for The New York Times, where he served as the Middle East Bureau Chief and Balkan Bureau Chief for the paper. There's a serious lack of appropriate education on the meaning and work of such political ideologies. Hedges is an angry polemicist and plagiarist: newrepublic.com/article/118114/chris-hedges-pulitzer-winner-lefty-hero-plagiarist |
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Post by BobWilliston on May 9, 2024 0:30:27 GMT -5
I have to admit that he only confirmed every one of my suspicions. |
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Post by xna on May 9, 2024 7:24:37 GMT -5
Lets say Hedges is the worst messenger ever. What then do you find inaccurate with the message? |
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Post by xna on May 9, 2024 7:45:18 GMT -5
Biden warns U.S. will withhold weapons shipments if Israel invades Rafah
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Post by xna on May 9, 2024 14:06:17 GMT -5
In a nutshell
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Post by Dan on May 9, 2024 15:55:30 GMT -5
Its was only a matter of time before Biden and Sanders fell to their knees and began brown nosing Hamas.
How else do they expect Israel to stop the terrorism when they insist on making Rafah a safe haven?
I hope Israel doesn't yield to world pressure. Its imperative that they don't stop until they've killed every one of those bastards.
But as history has shown, Israel never completes the job, Hamas and Hezbollah will live to fight another day.
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Post by xna on May 9, 2024 16:05:50 GMT -5
Its was only a matter of time before Biden and Sanders fell to their knees and began brown nosing Hamas.
How else do they expect Israel to stop the terrorism when they insist on making Rafah a safe haven?
I hope Israel doesn't yield to world pressure. Its imperative that they don't stop until they've killed every one of those bastards.
But as history has shown, Israel never completes the job, Hamas and Hezbollah will live to fight another day.
They could bring out the nukes. |
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Post by BobWilliston on May 9, 2024 16:39:46 GMT -5
Its was only a matter of time before Biden and Sanders fell to their knees and began brown nosing Hamas.
How else do they expect Israel to stop the terrorism when they insist on making Rafah a safe haven?
I hope Israel doesn't yield to world pressure. Its imperative that they don't stop until they've killed every one of those bastards.
But as history has shown, Israel never completes the job, Hamas and Hezbollah will live to fight another day.
They could bring out the nukes. Someone will always let slip a party-line secret weapon. |
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Post by fixit on May 9, 2024 17:47:20 GMT -5
I watched Golda last night:
Golda as a little girl endured the pogroms in Tsarist Russia, hiding from those who were hunting and killing Jewish men women and children.
She moved to British Mandate Palestine in the 1930s and contributed a lot to the establishment of a Jewish homeland.
In 1967 Israel struck first when they could see the Arabs were ready to destroy them.
After that they promised the Americans not to strike first again, resulting in the near destruction of their young nation in 1973.
All the land Israel occupies was won at great cost from those who worked hard to destroy them.
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Post by xna on May 9, 2024 19:13:50 GMT -5
I watched Golda last night: Many people / tribes / groups have been wiped out in history and mostly no one knew about it. In the early days of the USA many places in the USA had constant battles with the Indians. In the history of my family in the 1600's one of my relatives came home to find his wife and all his children killed by Indians. But today no one in my family has any problems with Indian raids. That's because the white men killed all the Indians or drove them away. Today is different, you can't get away with genocide like in "the good old days."  |
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Post by xna on May 9, 2024 20:20:01 GMT -5
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Post by fixit on May 9, 2024 21:06:51 GMT -5
I watched Golda last night: Many people / tribes / groups have been wiped out in history and mostly no one knew about it. In the early days of the USA many places in the USA had constant battles with the Indians. In the history of my family in the 1600's one of my relatives came home to find his wife and all his children killed by Indians. But today no one in my family has any problems with Indian raids. That's because the white men killed all the Indians or drove them away. Today is different, you can't get away with genocide like in "the good old days." Just remember that the Arabs intended, and many still do intend, to destroy every Jew in the area. If Israel intended genocide they would have destroyed a whole lot more Gazans than the tiny percentage killed so far in this war that the government of Gaza started. |
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Post by Dan on May 9, 2024 23:09:02 GMT -5
Its was only a matter of time before Biden and Sanders fell to their knees and began brown nosing Hamas.
How else do they expect Israel to stop the terrorism when they insist on making Rafah a safe haven?
I hope Israel doesn't yield to world pressure. Its imperative that they don't stop until they've killed every one of those bastards.
But as history has shown, Israel never completes the job, Hamas and Hezbollah will live to fight another day.
They could bring out the nukes.
That will never happen, the world wouldn't permit it and neither would God. The radioactive fallout would hurt Israel as much as Gaza. Israel has 90 nukes, but as long as Iran doesn't launch one at Israel, they wouldn't use nukes offensively. I'm guessing that after having Biden deny them precision weapons, Israel will start manufacturing their own guided missiles in the coming years. They are in a fight or be killed situation, I hope they finish the job despite our cowardly president, who's the biggest wimp on earth imo. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 10, 2024 0:15:55 GMT -5
Its was only a matter of time before Biden and Sanders fell to their knees and began brown nosing Hamas.
How else do they expect Israel to stop the terrorism when they insist on making Rafah a safe haven?
I hope Israel doesn't yield to world pressure. Its imperative that they don't stop until they've killed every one of those bastards.
But as history has shown, Israel never completes the job, Hamas and Hezbollah will live to fight another day.
Both Biden and Sanders are pragmatists. Both realize that there are millions of young voters in the USA who do not believe in the mythology that you believe in and is the basis for Israel's existence. It is not Hamas he is brown nosing but he is seeking the votes of those who have wised up to the scam that is your religion. I don't blame him at all for that. It's a smart move. |
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Post by fixit on May 10, 2024 1:01:28 GMT -5
They are in a fight or be killed situation, I hope they finish the job despite our cowardly president, who's the biggest wimp on earth imo. I think Bone-Spur Trump would be the biggest wimp - he appeases Putin. |
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Post by xna on May 10, 2024 7:25:14 GMT -5
Many people / tribes / groups have been wiped out in history and mostly no one knew about it. In the early days of the USA many places in the USA had constant battles with the Indians. In the history of my family in the 1600's one of my relatives came home to find his wife and all his children killed by Indians. But today no one in my family has any problems with Indian raids. That's because the white men killed all the Indians or drove them away. Today is different, you can't get away with genocide like in "the good old days." Just remember that the Arabs intended, and many still do intend, to destroy every Jew in the area. If Israel intended genocide they would have destroyed a whole lot more Gazans than the tiny percentage killed so far in this war that the government of Gaza started. It's their religions that drives them crazy |
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Post by xna on May 10, 2024 7:32:09 GMT -5
They could bring out the nukes.
That will never happen, the world wouldn't permit it and neither would God. The radioactive fallout would hurt Israel as much as Gaza. Israel has 90 nukes, but as long as Iran doesn't launch one at Israel, they wouldn't use nukes offensively. I'm guessing that after having Biden deny them precision weapons, Israel will start manufacturing their own guided missiles in the coming years. They are in a fight or be killed situation, I hope they finish the job despite our cowardly president, who's the biggest wimp on earth imo. - Israel already makes and exports smart bombs. Israel Aerospace Industries and Rafael Advanced Defense Systems, has been at the forefront of developing such technologies. These smart bombs utilize advanced guidance systems such as GPS, laser, or inertial guidance to precisely hit their intended targets. They want USA bombs because these are free, and using their own costs them money. - If they use a neutron bomb the residual radiation could last only a few days. |
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Post by xna on May 10, 2024 10:23:30 GMT -5
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Post by xna on May 10, 2024 14:09:11 GMT -5
Some more history that was new to me.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 10, 2024 21:12:55 GMT -5
Some more history that was new to me. Revealing |
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Post by snow on May 12, 2024 10:51:08 GMT -5
People have been saying that Israel has to fight till they kill all the Hamas. That is absolutely impossible because what Israel is currently doing is just creating more Hamas. They will never kill them all so they would be wise to find a way to live with them. Killing civilians, starving civilians etc is a very good way of continuing to create more enemies.
Israel would be stupid to use nukes in such close proximity to themselves. God has nothing to do with all of this and he certainly won't stop them from using nukes if they are stupid enough to go down that road. Having said that God has nothing to do with all of this, it is both sides belief that there is a god that is the biggest reason why there is so much strife in the region. Any 'people' that claim God gave them land and that claim they are the chosen people are bound to believe that they are superior. I find it ironic that they are in the same mindset as Hitler was when he was trying to get rid of the Jews. He thought his 'race/people' were superior and had rights the Jews didn't. Fighting over which God is right has caused more heartache than unity.
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Post by xna on May 12, 2024 11:30:01 GMT -5
People have been saying that Israel has to fight till they kill all the Hamas. That is absolutely impossible because what Israel is currently doing is just creating more Hamas. They will never kill them all so they would be wise to find a way to live with them. Killing civilians, starving civilians etc is a very good way of continuing to create more enemies.
Israel would be stupid to use nukes in such close proximity to themselves. God has nothing to do with all of this and he certainly won't stop them from using nukes if they are stupid enough to go down that road. Having said that God has nothing to do with all of this, it is both sides belief that there is a god that is the biggest reason why there is so much strife in the region. Any 'people' that claim God gave them land and that claim they are the chosen people are bound to believe that they are superior. I find it ironic that they are in the same mindset as Hitler was when he was trying to get rid of the Jews. He thought his 'race/people' were superior and had rights the Jews didn't. Fighting over which God is right has caused more heartache than unity. Christians have an even more grandiose entitlement program - Christian Dominionism. Christian Dominionsim, Zionism, Hindu Nationalism, and Shia Law can't coexist. Each wants to control the world according to their own ideas. ------------------------------- From AI
Christian dominionism, also known as dominion theology, is the belief that Christians have a divine mandate to take control of all governing institutions and establish a nation ruled by biblical law.
Here are the key points about Christian dominionism:
- It is based on an interpretation of Genesis 1:28 that God gave humans the command to have "dominion" over the earth, which dominionists extend to mean taking control of all societal institutions (government, education, media, etc.).
-Dominionists believe Christians must work toward building a "Christian nation" governed solely by a conservative interpretation of biblical law. This goes beyond simply influencing society with
Christian values.
- There are two main branches: Christian Reconstructionism (advocated by R.J. Rushdoony) which seeks to restructure society according to Old Testament biblical law, and the "Seven Mountains" mandate which calls for Christians to take dominion over seven key spheres of societal influence.
- It differs from premillennial dispensationalism, which expects society to deteriorate before Christ's return. Dominionists are postmillennial, believing they can and must establish a biblical kingdom on earth before the second coming.
Critics view dominionism as a threat to religious pluralism and democratic governance, as it seeks to replace secular laws with a particular interpretation of biblical law.
While most evangelical Christians do not explicitly embrace dominionism, the belief has gained influence in some conservative Christian political movements in recent decades
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Post by Dan on May 12, 2024 13:37:29 GMT -5
People have been saying that Israel has to fight till they kill all the Hamas. That is absolutely impossible because what Israel is currently doing is just creating more Hamas. They will never kill them all so they would be wise to find a way to live with them. Killing civilians, starving civilians etc is a very good way of continuing to create more enemies. Israel would be stupid to use nukes in such close proximity to themselves. God has nothing to do with all of this and he certainly won't stop them from using nukes if they are stupid enough to go down that road. Having said that God has nothing to do with all of this, it is both sides belief that there is a god that is the biggest reason why there is so much strife in the region. Any 'people' that claim God gave them land and that claim they are the chosen people are bound to believe that they are superior. I find it ironic that they are in the same mindset as Hitler was when he was trying to get rid of the Jews. He thought his 'race/people' were superior and had rights the Jews didn't. Fighting over which God is right has caused more heartache than unity.
Israel needs to rid Gaza of Hamas, they don't care if they go elsewhere. You can't have terrorist living next door, so I suspect the ultimate goal is to force the removal or death of all terrorist residing in Gaza.
You cannot live with an enemy that is hell bent on cutting your throat, that's a fantasy that will never work. Doesn't matter if the hatred is over politics, religion, or land. Its a kill or be killed scenario with no compromise. The last few decades have proven that a 2 state solution won't work. Peace will only come by separating the combatants, and a flimsy border alone just won't cut it, the ongoing repetitive rocket attacks have proven that.
Once Hamas has been eradicated from Gaza, Israel's challenge will be to guard against a resurgence by governing the Gaza Strip themselves. The Palestinians aren't innocent, they support terror and condone Hamas, so without suffering serious repercussions, nothing will change. I have a feeling Gaza will be uninhabitable for a decade, with all the infrastructure destroyed and over 60% of the buildings, its going to be hell to live there in the aftermath.
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Post by fixit on May 12, 2024 18:52:06 GMT -5
People have been saying that Israel has to fight till they kill all the Hamas. That is absolutely impossible because what Israel is currently doing is just creating more Hamas. They will never kill them all so they would be wise to find a way to live with them. Killing civilians, starving civilians etc is a very good way of continuing to create more enemies. I'm not seeing any good alternative to Israeli military control of the Gaza strip because the government of Gaza is sworn to the destruction of Israel. Gaza ceasefires have never held for long and have only impoverished the people of Gaza. Many Israeli Jews or their forebears were expelled, or fled for their lives, from their ancentral homelands. Do you think the Jews should just abandon the State of Israel, and find somewhere else to live if they could? If anyone is interested in balance, the interviews in this video are good: |
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Post by fixit on May 12, 2024 18:57:20 GMT -5
I have a feeling Gaza will be uninhabitable for a decade, with all the infrastructure destroyed and over 60% of the buildings, its going to be hell to live there in the aftermath. Gaza has been rebuilt a few times before and it can be rebuilt again but it's essential to get good governance in there. It will always be hell to live there while Hamas is there. Once they are defeated it will be better. Hamas kills Gazan citizens who oppose them, so the IDF is their only hope of improving their situation. |
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