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Dean Bruer
Apr 27, 2023 22:01:12 GMT -5
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 27, 2023 22:01:12 GMT -5
Make sure they don’t have your Wi-Fi password when they stay in your kids bedroom. It makes no difference if they have reasonable data plan on the mobile.
But as I have said earlier, if someone is in doubt, then put the modem/router in diagnostic or verbose logging mode.
If certain sites such as porn, kiddie-porn, gambling, or violence sites have been accessed, you then have a moral dilemma. What do you do with the information?
I would suggest that kiddie porn becomes a legal issue, the others a moral issue.
It’s not about tracking it’s about having them just not do it in my house. They don’t have any training or education on the celibate life so everyone figures it out on their own, while staying in our houses.
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 27, 2023 22:39:26 GMT -5
It makes no difference if they have reasonable data plan on the mobile.
But as I have said earlier, if someone is in doubt, then put the modem/router in diagnostic or verbose logging mode.
If certain sites such as porn, kiddie-porn, gambling, or violence sites have been accessed, you then have a moral dilemma. What do you do with the information?
I would suggest that kiddie porn becomes a legal issue, the others a moral issue.
It’s not about tracking it’s about having them just not do it in my house. They don’t have any training or education on the celibate life so everyone figures it out on their own, while staying in our houses. I don't think there's an easy answer to be honest. It's about trust, and I would like to think I can trust people invited to stay in my home.
I am also aware, that so long as there are bathrooms with locks, and bedrooms with doors, there's only so much one can do. But to be honest, I like the workers to feeling welcome, and to enjoy the freedom of "feeling at home", and I will just accept the risk.
when the kids were young, we were careful, and wise, with people, not just workers, in our home and without showing distrust.
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Post by Mary on Apr 28, 2023 18:45:05 GMT -5
I feel for you 1chinesewhispers, having to relive all this. It's good though that victims are coming forward. There's hope that the culture of denial, victim intimidation, victim blaming, deflection, cover-up, answering questions with non-answers......is all coming to an end. I agree fixit and thank you . Presently I am ready to smash my iPad and iPhone . This is wearing me out . Yes it is triggering me ! But I am glad people are coming forward . However as I stated from the beginning if I can save one person then I have helped . That is my bottom line . Full-stop ! Anyhow air buds going in for some Van Halen . Not checking anymore email till Friday ! One of the symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) is: DMS5: C. Persistent avoidance of stimuli associated with the traumatic event(s) beginning after the traumatic event(s) occured as evidenced by one or both of the following: 1. Avoidance of or efforts to avoid distressing memories, thoughts, or feelings about or closely associated with the traumatic event(s). 2: Avoidance of or efforts to avoid external reminders (people, places, conversations, activities, objects, situations) that arouse distressing memories, thought or feelings about or closely associated with the traumatic event(s). It is my experience that if one is experiencing PTSD they would likely avoid this topic as they often report avoiding reading even newspaper articles, conversations etc related to sexual abuse.
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Post by matisse on Apr 28, 2023 18:52:06 GMT -5
For starters, an entrenched religious belief system with a male god and his son at the top. No goddess. No daughter. Oh, and women only exist because the male god created them as an afterthought. I have never heard that used to bombard women don't count and only men count. I'm sure it has been used but I have never experienced it or heard it insinuated. I'm surprised. But then, the absence of a female deity in the Judaic Parthenon might not catch your attention or feel demeaning to you, since males are well represented at "the top". Can you imagine a belief system in which the roles are flipped and there are ONLY female deities? What might a young boy indoctrinated with this kind of belief system conclude? The story of the creation of Eve from Adam's rib, very clearly articulates women as being an afterthought. That there is an "alternate" story of creation, does not take away what IMO, is a horrible concept to perpetuate. The story of Eve and the serpent has definitely been held against women. Wally made a snide reference to it just a few hours ago.
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Dean Bruer
Apr 28, 2023 19:47:05 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 28, 2023 19:47:05 GMT -5
I agree fixit and thank you . Presently I am ready to smash my iPad and iPhone . This is wearing me out . Yes it is triggering me ! But I am glad people are coming forward . However as I stated from the beginning if I can save one person then I have helped . That is my bottom line . Full-stop ! Anyhow air buds going in for some Van Halen . Not checking anymore email till Friday ! One of the symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) is: DMS5: C. Persistent avoidance of stimuli associated with the traumatic event(s) beginning after the traumatic event(s) occured as evidenced by one or both of the following: 1. Avoidance of or efforts to avoid distressing memories, thoughts, or feelings about or closely associated with the traumatic event(s). 2: Avoidance of or efforts to avoid external reminders (people, places, conversations, activities, objects, situations) that arouse distressing memories, thought or feelings about or closely associated with the traumatic event(s). It is my experience that if one is experiencing PTSD they would likely avoid this topic as they often report avoiding reading even newspaper articles, conversations etc related to sexual abuse. I suffer from PTSD and severe depression and anxiety and panic disorder . I don’t just have panic attacks , I am in flight mode or fight mode 24/7 . I am still working with my sex worker have been in therapy all my life . So I do take meds to be able to even walk out my door !!!
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 28, 2023 19:49:29 GMT -5
I have a duty to PROTECT CHILDREN . My own daughter was a CSA at Didsbury convention the night she professed . She was with her grandparents . I failed to protect my child , I will continue to bring forward anyone who ends up in my email . Thank you for your words of kindness . Kingsley Stone was offered up to me and it was a TEAM EFFORT . Thanks to all who jumped in when needed . I can’t imagine how hard it was to put him out right before he was to speak and dismiss him from convention grounds .. I am not a mandatory reporter I am just a human who cares . I am a great grandma and I want all my children safe .
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Post by matisse on Apr 28, 2023 20:16:06 GMT -5
I'm surprised. But then, the absence of a female deity in the Judaic Parthenon might not catch your attention or feel demeaning to you, since males are well represented at "the top". Can you imagine a belief system in which the roles are flipped and there are ONLY female deities? What might a young boy indoctrinated with this kind of belief system conclude? The story of the creation of Eve from Adam's rib, very clearly articulates women as being an afterthought. That there is an "alternate" story of creation, does not take away what IMO, is a horrible concept to perpetuate. The story of Eve and the serpent has definitely been held against women. Wally made a snide reference to it just a few hours ago. 1 Cor 11 is extremely clear as well: For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the manOnly males are made in the image of God. Women are an afterthought made from a rib, and were explicitly made for the man. It really is a no-brainer that Brother Workers have a long history of dismissing the concerns of Sister Workers.
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Post by Admin on Apr 29, 2023 7:58:58 GMT -5
The topic of this thread is 'Dean Bruer'. Posts unrelated to the topic will be removed.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 29, 2023 9:16:28 GMT -5
I noticed internationalstudies is on a (break) . On the Dean and other situation . Very peaceful !
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Post by matisse on Apr 29, 2023 10:41:55 GMT -5
God created man in his own image. Adam. Adam was male. God saw that it was not good for man to be alone so he created a helper for him, a woman. Woman was created from a rib bone taken from the man. God is always referred to as 'he', never she or they. God is a one person God. Transgenderism is a thing for these last days when a male can be a female, vice versa and anything in between. This is anathema to God and does not represent his character. Please don't include myself in with Catholic beliefs. I don't know what they believe so it's inappropriate to assume that I believe things because they say so. Best keep them out of our dialogue. It causes confusion. Putting anything the Catholic Church says aside, can you show me where the Holy Spirit is referred to as 'she?' From the scripture that is. I have seen he and I have seen 'it' but never she. Also the Holy Spirit is God's spirit and God is a 'he!' Yes virgin often referred to a 'young woman' in the scripture, but it was generally an unmarried young woman who were accepted as not having been with a man until marriage. Early Christian groups, mostly made up of Jews considered the Holy spirit to be feminine. As I said it was seen as feminine at one point in time. The word ruach in Hebrew was mostly used as a feminine and ruach is spirit. Also the Holy spirit has been described as wisdom and in the early churches Sophia was described as knowledge/wisdom and was definitely feminine. The spirit of the Lord is also defined as wisdom, again viewed as feminine. It also makes sense that the HS is feminine as Jesus claims you must be born again of the holy spirit and sometimes in Hebrew calls it 'mother'. www.mothergodexperiment.com/is-the-holy-spirit-feminine/This is from a Jewish site that you might find interesting reading. In any case, this isn't the thread to discuss this really. And I really don't care if the HS is female or male. blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-importance-of-hebrew-with-regards-to-the-holy-spirit-in-christianity/ www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0259-94222016000100026#:~:text=Wisdom%20is%20equated%20with%20the,traditions%20express%20the%20same%20concept. Thank you, snow. I was so very hungry as a girl for this sort of validation that was missing in 2x2 culture, and in the larger culture, for that matter. I think it is a timely topic of discussion. IMO, the subjugation and routine dismissal of the concerns of women in 2x2 culture are integral to a history of sexual abuse within the 2x2s that likely goes back to the very beginnings of the group. I agree it should be in a separate thread.
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 29, 2023 10:49:18 GMT -5
I noticed internationalstudies is on a (break) . On the Dean and other situation . Very peaceful ! He is probably in a bad Wi-Fi area or in tour with his overseer and they have to share a room
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Dean Bruer
Apr 29, 2023 11:06:33 GMT -5
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 29, 2023 11:06:33 GMT -5
professing.proboards.com/thread/25089/2x2-business-model-exposedFound this from 2017. Really makes you think and wonder how many victims would have been prevented if the 2x2 had an accounting system that held Dean and others accountable. “ The beauty of this business model, despite being illegal, is that if one of the 'Workers' commits a crime such as sexually assaulting a child, the victims of the crime are unable to successfully sue for damages from the Worker since the Worker himself/herself has no personal assets to seize. In a normal organization, the victims could sue the organization as well. But in 2x2ism case who do you sue since you don't even know who controls what or where the money is? Furthermore, there is no 2x2 legal entity to sue. This is the exact legal defense that a 2x2 Overseer used - that he was not a minister since there was no church that he was a minister of, and therefore how could he be held accountable. Beautiful. This is exactly how organized crime is set up. Even worse, all that hidden away money is then used by Overseers to pay for expensive lawyers to defend any 2x2 minister charged with a crime. What a racket. Or to put it in legal terms - racketeering. Thankfully in the US the Dept of Justice can use the RICO act to pierce the organizational structure. ”
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Post by Vinny T. on Apr 29, 2023 11:18:16 GMT -5
I have no hate. Did I say something incorrect? Pops does argue with ANYONE who reports things and uses obsurd references like Qanon like we're just Making stuff up. He does say everyone is lying regardless well except him of course. He does ask for real identities. He does argue and poke at everyone. What did I say that Pops has not done? I love it when I am emoted. How am I hating by calling out the guy that causes more issues than anyone? How am I hating by stating facts about Pops and the Truth? It IS standard procedure to silence victims, then convince them to not report and then offer no help and only shame the victims. Then they move the perpetrator to a new area fresh with new victims. The Truth allows pedophiles and rapists to attend meeting and convention. The Truth has ex communicated or kicked out victims who pushed the issue of what happened to them or a loved one. The Truth does not help the victims yet helps the perpetrators. The Truth does not report crimes as we have seen several Overseers be jailed for doing that very same thing. How am I hating? I have Stated several times most of the people in the Truth are good people. I know some very very very well. They are severely confused on these matters and how to handle them but very good people. I've stated there are many very concerning things about the truth such as shunning the victims and protecting the rapists and pedophiles and the shuffling of the money. It's very mason/mafiaesque. How do I come across as hateful by stating facts? That's confusing to me. I’m sorry I was being sarcastic. Fill me in on the money movement theory. I’ve heard this for years but there hasn’t been any clear meat. I don’t know who would benefit from the money. And if it’s not true it takes attention away from the real problems . OK, cool. I have found a good article about the money aspect: professing.proboards.com/thread/25089/2x2-business-model-exposed
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Post by verna on Apr 29, 2023 11:25:31 GMT -5
I’m sorry I was being sarcastic. Fill me in on the money movement theory. I’ve heard this for years but there hasn’t been any clear meat. I don’t know who would benefit from the money. And if it’s not true it takes attention away from the real problems . OK, cool. I have found a good article about the money aspect: professing.proboards.com/thread/25089/2x2-business-model-exposedDo you have reason to believe that this synopsis is true Vinny? I do not mean is there any truth in it - I mean in its extremity. I am having trouble believing the extent of it.
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Post by Vinny T. on Apr 29, 2023 11:35:54 GMT -5
I am easily intreated and inspired by truth and sincerity. There are church and non church members who post with such on TMB! Then there are church and non church members who in their posts reveal otherwise. Not easy to be intreated by them. I understand this to be discernment/wisdom from above. Workers need to do more praying and less preying. Try it, you might like it. Walk away KO! The Win goes to Curlywurly. PoPs just can get a win here folks. That's what happens when lies are out in fro t of truth. Far too aggressive and has no chance of proving anything other than him favoring Workers and will say ANYTHING to lessen the blows of truth.
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Post by Vinny T. on Apr 29, 2023 11:44:00 GMT -5
A conspiracy theories is an attempt to relate two unrelated matters/statements. This is the mind game pragmatic is attempting here! a) Pragmatic doesn't like " liars, bigots, kiddie fiddlers, rapists and wife beaters, especially if they're gift wrapped to appear as pillars of the church" ....... Quite a profound statement/a moral high ground he is taking!!! Who does like such?!!! 🤔 b) Then he deviously but unsuccessfully attempts to relate that to an unrelated statement I have made about posters like himself, fixit, mrbalino etc etc. Notice how he does it with the use of 'according.....! Nice try pragmatic, but we are wise to the game you play, you are too 'clever' for your own good!🤷♂️ You can fool some of the people some of the time but not TMB readers all of the time. This is beside other mischief you get up to, posting factually incorrect statement about situation where I happen to 100% know the facts. Another attempt to mislead!🤷♂️ Pops is an expert on Conpiracy theories. He a full fledged Qanoner. Explains why he knows no truth.
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Post by Vinny T. on Apr 29, 2023 11:51:35 GMT -5
A conspiracy theories is an attempt to relate two unrelated matters/statements. This is the mind game pragmatic is attempting here! a) Pragmatic doesn't like " liars, bigots, kiddie fiddlers, rapists and wife beaters, especially if they're gift wrapped to appear as pillars of the church" ....... Quite a profound statement/a moral high ground he is taking!!! Who does like such?!!! 🤔 b) Then he deviously but unsuccessfully attempts to relate that to an unrelated statement I have made about posters like himself, fixit, mrbalino etc etc. Notice how he does it with the use of 'according.....! Nice try pragmatic, but we are wise to the game you play, you are too 'clever' for your own good!🤷♂️ You can fool some of the people some of the time but not TMB readers all of the time. This is beside other mischief you get up to, posting factually incorrect statement about situation where I happen to 100% know the facts. Another attempt to mislead!🤷♂️ Rubbish - I was simply poking some fun at your grammar which could be taken to read that people opposing liars bigots etc had a sick mindset!
With regard to a particular case. My wife is close friends with one of the victims, and was discussing the case only a few weeks ago. If that is the what the victim understands, then church failed in it's duty to protect the victim. Part of what the church should do is make sure that justice is also seen to be done, and the friends are not blaming the victim(s), and feeling sorry for the perpetrator.
I understand that in the case you mentioned where you considered the church had done the right thing, a similar situation was also the result, and the victim felt as if the blame was apportioned to her by the friends. If that was true, then again, the church failed in it's duty of pastoral care.
With respect to the Phoenix case, where I posted up a journalist's entry, and you mocked it as being a Qanon style scoop.
The details are:
He is a wealthy elder. Qanon scoop?
Mocking and scoffing should not be your modus operandi
He cannot control himself. He's acting like a guilty party in my opinion. Think about it. He's arguing with almost everyone on here. Why?
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Dean Bruer
Apr 29, 2023 12:02:18 GMT -5
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 29, 2023 12:02:18 GMT -5
Do you have reason to believe that this synopsis is true Vinny? I do not mean is there any truth in it - I mean in its extremity. I am having trouble believing the extent of it. professing.proboards.com/thread/25089/2x2-business-model-exposedThis part really seems viable considering people keep getting molested and no one is able to sue. Imagine how different this would be if 10 years ago they fixed the system to one that is accountable and legal. How many victims would be prevented? How much civil action could be taken to prevent future victimization and coverup? “ The beauty of this business model, despite being illegal, is that if one of the 'Workers' commits a crime such as sexually assaulting a child, the victims of the crime are unable to successfully sue for damages from the Worker since the Worker himself/herself has no personal assets to seize. In a normal organization, the victims could sue the organization as well. But in 2x2ism case who do you sue since you don't even know who controls what or where the money is? Furthermore, there is no 2x2 legal entity to sue. This is the exact legal defense that a 2x2 Overseer used - that he was not a minister since there was no church that he was a minister of, and therefore how could he be held accountable. Beautiful. This is exactly how organized crime is set up. Even worse, all that hidden away money is then used by Overseers to pay for expensive lawyers to defend any 2x2 minister charged with a crime. What a racket. Or to put it in legal terms - racketeering. Thankfully in the US the Dept of Justice can use the RICO act to pierce the organizational structure. ”
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Post by Vinny T. on Apr 29, 2023 12:04:29 GMT -5
I am unmoved the fixit and his 'worker 101' etc. It's the stuff he parrots regularly, it's his mindset! 🤷♂️. His thousands of posts reflecting this. What's new?🤷♂️ I have challenged posters to substantiate wild baseless allegations and statements they have made. I carefully check my facts before doing so. If you care to reread you will see that to the last one, they have been unable to do so. Hence my lack of concern at the flack I am attracting! No knowledge ever entered a head through an open mouth. * * And the submission goes to Mr Dobolina. Pops just can't keep from getting g tangled in his own words. He tried to prove "some" validity to the church by making up a baseless claim that the church has at one point turned someone in for pedophilia. Yet he is the ONLY person who knows this information. Turns out it was a failed attempt at credibility and only proves how much of a protector or perverts he actually is. Seems to me he is acting very guilty. PoPs keeps on trying and keeps on getting KOed. Good job Mr Dobolina. You and Curlywurly are undefeated against PoPs.
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Dean Bruer
Apr 29, 2023 12:46:20 GMT -5
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Post by verna on Apr 29, 2023 12:46:20 GMT -5
Do you have reason to believe that this synopsis is true Vinny? I do not mean is there any truth in it - I mean in its extremity. I am having trouble believing the extent of it. professing.proboards.com/thread/25089/2x2-business-model-exposedThis part really seems viable considering people keep getting molested and no one is able to sue. Imagine how different this would be if 10 years ago they fixed the system to one that is accountable and legal. How many victims would be prevented? How much civil action could be taken to prevent future victimization and coverup? “ The beauty of this business model, despite being illegal, is that if one of the 'Workers' commits a crime such as sexually assaulting a child, the victims of the crime are unable to successfully sue for damages from the Worker since the Worker himself/herself has no personal assets to seize. In a normal organization, the victims could sue the organization as well. But in 2x2ism case who do you sue since you don't even know who controls what or where the money is? Furthermore, there is no 2x2 legal entity to sue. This is the exact legal defense that a 2x2 Overseer used - that he was not a minister since there was no church that he was a minister of, and therefore how could he be held accountable. Beautiful. This is exactly how organized crime is set up. Even worse, all that hidden away money is then used by Overseers to pay for expensive lawyers to defend any 2x2 minister charged with a crime. What a racket. Or to put it in legal terms - racketeering. Thankfully in the US the Dept of Justice can use the RICO act to pierce the organizational structure. ” Yes this part sounds credible.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 29, 2023 13:16:00 GMT -5
I noticed internationalstudies is on a (break) . On the Dean and other situation . Very peaceful ! He is probably in a bad Wi-Fi area or in tour with his overseer and they have to share a room Touring various motels to check out their suitability to hold gospel meetings for prostitutes.
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Post by Vinny T. on Apr 29, 2023 13:18:31 GMT -5
Do you have reason to believe that this synopsis is true Vinny? I do not mean is there any truth in it - I mean in its extremity. I am having trouble believing the extent of it. I do not know how true any of it is. However I do believe it is accurate from what people have came forward to say. All the money is being investigated I do know that for 100% certainty. There is massive amounts of money laundering going on and have been. Because the founder of the 2x2s William Irvine was a Freemason and if you look at how things are set up it is very mason/mafiaesque. It's all a shell game with the money. Shuffled from place to place and person to person in country after country in secret. There is a large religious sect that has no public identity where there are "workers" who do not work yet they live a good life of travel. Then there are "Overseers" who run sometimes several States with hundreds of workers. They dont have jobs so where does the mo ey come from? They have many people who's entire estates have been bequeathed to the 2x2s. 2here does the money go from the estates? Where does all the "donations" go? There is a lot of nefarious things going on with the money. The rapes and pedophilia run rampant in this sect. The higher up you go the worse it gets. Believe what you want. I do know there are more secrets about this sect than there are answers because of the level of indoctrination and Co trol they have over the members. Purely based on the language and sayings it's meant to hide the truth from even it's own members.
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Dean Bruer
Apr 29, 2023 13:24:18 GMT -5
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 29, 2023 13:24:18 GMT -5
He is probably in a bad Wi-Fi area or in tour with his overseer and they have to share a room Touring various motels to check out their suitability to hold gospel meetings for prostitutes. How dare you, that’s never happened before…
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Post by verna on Apr 29, 2023 13:55:33 GMT -5
Do you have reason to believe that this synopsis is true Vinny? I do not mean is there any truth in it - I mean in its extremity. I am having trouble believing the extent of it. I do not know how true any of it is. However I do believe it is accurate from what people have came forward to say. All the money is being investigated I do know that for 100% certainty. There is massive amounts of money laundering going on and have been. Because the founder of the 2x2s William Irvine was a Freemason and if you look at how things are set up it is very mason/mafiaesque. It's all a shell game with the money. Shuffled from place to place and person to person in country after country in secret. There is a large religious sect that has no public identity where there are "workers" who do not work yet they live a good life of travel. Then there are "Overseers" who run sometimes several States with hundreds of workers. They dont have jobs so where does the mo ey come from? They have many people who's entire estates have been bequeathed to the 2x2s. 2here does the money go from the estates? Where does all the "donations" go? There is a lot of nefarious things going on with the money. The rapes and pedophilia run rampant in this sect. The higher up you go the worse it gets. Believe what you want. I do know there are more secrets about this sect than there are answers because of the level of indoctrination and Co trol they have over the members. Purely based on the language and sayings it's meant to hide the truth from even it's own members. I don’t know what to believe. I am waiting for facts to emerge. I do believe there is something rotten but I am hesitant to assume it is, at it’s heart a money laundering and pedophilia ring.
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Dean Bruer
Apr 29, 2023 14:11:34 GMT -5
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 29, 2023 14:11:34 GMT -5
I do not know how true any of it is. However I do believe it is accurate from what people have came forward to say. All the money is being investigated I do know that for 100% certainty. There is massive amounts of money laundering going on and have been. Because the founder of the 2x2s William Irvine was a Freemason and if you look at how things are set up it is very mason/mafiaesque. It's all a shell game with the money. Shuffled from place to place and person to person in country after country in secret. There is a large religious sect that has no public identity where there are "workers" who do not work yet they live a good life of travel. Then there are "Overseers" who run sometimes several States with hundreds of workers. They dont have jobs so where does the mo ey come from? They have many people who's entire estates have been bequeathed to the 2x2s. 2here does the money go from the estates? Where does all the "donations" go? There is a lot of nefarious things going on with the money. The rapes and pedophilia run rampant in this sect. The higher up you go the worse it gets. Believe what you want. I do know there are more secrets about this sect than there are answers because of the level of indoctrination and Co trol they have over the members. Purely based on the language and sayings it's meant to hide the truth from even it's own members. I don’t know what to believe. I am waiting for facts to emerge. I do believe there is something rotten but I am hesitant to assume it is, at it’s heart a money laundering and pedophilia ring. I actually agree with you Verna, in fact I think conspiracy theories that are impossible to prove actually cause people with real points to lose their credibility. The part of the general money laundering argument that is accurate is the 2x2 setup is considered mafia style laundering even if it’s considered a “miracle or the way” and not an intentional crime. If the 2x2lowercase way wanted to stop illegal activity, they would do it by setting up a legal church structure where money is tracked, salaries and benefits are made known, taxes on salaries and benefits are paid, and victims have a way to sue so they can fight coverup of SA and CSA instead of feel like they can do nothing.
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Post by Vinny T. on Apr 29, 2023 14:27:00 GMT -5
I noticed internationalstudies is on a (break) . On the Dean and other situation . Very peaceful ! He is probably in a bad Wi-Fi area or in tour with his overseer and they have to share a room Or he himself is now under investigation 🤔
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 29, 2023 15:00:30 GMT -5
He is probably in a bad Wi-Fi area or in tour with his overseer and they have to share a room Or he himself is now under investigation 🤔 He probably just changed screen names again, I’m sure he lost a lot of peace over all of the people who are spreading so much hate in his mind.
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Post by internationalstudies on Apr 29, 2023 15:04:43 GMT -5
No international studies is here. I have achieved what I set out to do, so nothing more to say. I have challenged posters to substantiate wild baseless allegations and statements they have made. I have carefully checked my facts before doing that. If you care to reread you will see that, to the last one, they have been unable to do so. I have also revealed the hypocrisy of posters who squeal and howl about me for doing this. I don't intend getting drawn into more pointless time consuming nonsense with them. Jonathan is the 'textbook' case worker that you all need to chum up with, he doesn't challenge wild baseless allegations and statements. fixit says "From what I've seen of Jonathan's posts I believe the vast majority of TMBers would happily chat with him over coffee." Enjoy coffee with him! You don't need to face uncomfortable truths there. 👿🤷♂️
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