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Post by chuck on Mar 24, 2023 5:25:09 GMT -5
Looks like the poop has hit the fan in the US with another scandal. After reading some gushing comments of the now instantly infamous Mr Bruer one cant help but notice the overwhelming characteristic that made Dean such a wonderful fellow, and that characteristic would be his religious form......kinda shows how religious form isn't worth a crumpet but that's was the dominant factor for his godlike status..... evaluating people on their religious performance is not a good idea and here we have another perfect example why....his religious performance didn't mean 💩 at the end of the day......all that matterers if you be a proper person, everything else is self endulgance. Sorry to drag you into this bob but I remember recently someone evaluating your life based on your lack of religous loyalty and beliefs......turns out it's not a reliable factor and you are mostly likely not the spawn of Satan, who knew......... You also can't tell me people didn't notice odd behaviour....... Feeling sad for the victims and the knock-on effect it most definitely has had on people around the victims.... |
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Post by mountain on Mar 24, 2023 8:21:18 GMT -5
The following letter from the current Oregon overseer, Doyle Smith, regarding his predecessor, the late Dean Bruer, is now circulating: I tried to open the link but was denied access. |
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Post by rjkee on Mar 24, 2023 8:28:23 GMT -5
Please let me know if the new link works.
Mountain, can you please delete the URL in your message as it's generating lots of access request emails to me.
Thanks
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Post by mountain on Mar 24, 2023 9:55:06 GMT -5
Try that New Zealand poster. That seems to be his forte? |
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Post by matisse on Mar 24, 2023 10:14:47 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 24, 2023 11:11:12 GMT -5
Letter re: Dean Bruer
March 20, 2023
Our Dear Friends
It is with a very heavy heart we share the following difficult information, but we feel it is imperative that we do so. We
trust vou will understang ano be in goreement
We have come to the tragic conclusion that Dean Bruer had another side to his life that none of us, except victims,
ever witnessed or suspected it has come to the surace in recent months and more so in recent weeks. that Dean was a sexual predator. We never respect or defend such fotally inappropriate behavior among us. There is a very united consensus among us that the only thing to do is to be transparent with all of you for obvious reasons, though this is very difficult. We are very sorry for the hurt this will bring to the hearts of many. Thankfully, he is no longer in a position to hurt anyone.
Some things have come to light from Dean's own records. Dean had his own Best Western Hotel preferred customer account and spent a considerable amount of time and money in motels. As we all know, when he died last June, it was in a motel in Government Camp, OR; a place that he frequented. The receipts often included "two guests.
Victims have come forward, and there was very confirming and incriminating evidence found on his computer and phone.
His actions include rape and abuse of underage victims. He totally abused his authority as an overseer in order to control, manipulate and threaten his victims. We are strongly recommending our staff look at the Ministry Safe Program and possibly other venues that help understand, recognize, and prevent such problems.
Overwhelmingly, our greatest concern in all of this is the victims. known and unknown. We do hope and pray this message somehow reaches the ears of every unknown victim if there are more. We feel very anxious to assure them that we are anxious to do everything possible to be a support. We understand that people like this are dangerously equipped to twist what has happened in such a way that the victim feels it's their fault, and thereby the predator's criminal behavior is hidden from others. We assure you, there is no possibility anyone will lay blame, except at the feet of the ONE very wrong man who has caused your pain. We are sorry! We hope you will have courage to reach out to any of us, or anyone that you feel you can talk to. We understand your need for privacy as well as support working through this, and we all intend to respect that.
None of us had any idea that such terrible things were happening until several woks after his death. There is no possible way that this would not have been immediately reported had we known. Some of us very much regret that we didn't somehow discover his actions and prevent more pain. We all feel betrayed naturally. We have come to the conclusion that the very dangerous thing about people like him is that they do what they do without conscience, thus it's much easier for them to pretend to be something that they aren't. We cannot live a lie when we love truth, and honestly live before God, respecting His approval as the scripture teaches us.
We sang recently, "All through the storm I see they face beaming with love and with saving grace." Our desperate prayer for you all, especially anyone that has been hurt, is that God will show Himself very strong. In Mark 4, the disciples found themselves in the worst storm of their life which caused a lot of distress. But at the conclusion of the storm there was a greater appreciation than ever for the miracle capacity Jesus had to deliver perfect peace despite storms. Our hearts desperately ache for the disappointment and sense of betrayal this will bring to countless hearts and again especially for the pain inflicted to victims. We pray the miracle somehow, someway, someday, will be as great as it was in Mark 4 for all.
Keep close to God dear friends. There is an immense capacity in the hand of God to help us. Thank you for all the prayers we know this will generate!
Sincerely you brother
Doyle S.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 24, 2023 11:13:17 GMT -5
Are they praying for the victims or themselves and the friends ? It wasn’t long ago that someone posted his passing WITH WORDS OF HOW GREAT HE WAS ! Strange that they are thankful he is dead . That doesn’t help the victims !!!!!!!!! Overseer no less . Disgusting 🤢 how they clamped down on the letter and it was buried . But it surfaced as they tried to hide it . The victims get no closure as they are not able to confront him and the other workers . Still happening AND IT WILL CONTINUE ! I truly want to 🤢
You can’t tell me that others didn’t know !!!! Straight up bull-hit . This is going to lawyer’s in YYC
Victims don’t reach out to worker’s , go to professional’s who are trained and have resources .
We never respect or defend such totally inappropriate behavior among us. That is a lie !
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Post by openingact34 on Mar 24, 2023 11:36:53 GMT -5
Letter re: Dean Bruer March 20, 2023 Our Dear Friends It is with a very heavy heart we share the following difficult information, but we feel it is imperative that we do so. We trust vou will understang ano be in goreement We have come to the tragic conclusion that Dean Bruer had another side to his life that none of us, except victims, ever witnessed or suspected it has come to the surace in recent months and more so in recent weeks. that Dean was a sexual predator. We never respect or defend such fotally inappropriate behavior among us. There is a very united consensus among us that the only thing to do is to be transparent with all of you for obvious reasons, though this is very difficult. We are very sorry for the hurt this will bring to the hearts of many. Thankfully, he is no longer in a position to hurt anyone. Some things have come to light from Dean's own records. Dean had his own Best Western Hotel preferred customer account and spent a considerable amount of time and money in motels. As we all know, when he died last June, it was in a motel in Government Camp, OR; a place that he frequented. The receipts often included "two guests. Victims have come forward, and there was very confirming and incriminating evidence found on his computer and phone. His actions include rape and abuse of underage victims. He totally abused his authority as an overseer in order to control, manipulate and threaten his victims. We are strongly recommending our staff look at the Ministry Safe Program and possibly other venues that help understand, recognize, and prevent such problems. Overwhelmingly, our greatest concern in all of this is the victims. known and unknown. We do hope and pray this message somehow reaches the ears of every unknown victim if there are more. We feel very anxious to assure them that we are anxious to do everything possible to be a support. We understand that people like this are dangerously equipped to twist what has happened in such a way that the victim feels it's their fault, and thereby the predator's criminal behavior is hidden from others. We assure you, there is no possibility anyone will lay blame, except at the feet of the ONE very wrong man who has caused your pain. We are sorry! We hope you will have courage to reach out to any of us, or anyone that you feel you can talk to. We understand your need for privacy as well as support working through this, and we all intend to respect that. None of us had any idea that such terrible things were happening until several woks after his death. There is no possible way that this would not have been immediately reported had we known. Some of us very much regret that we didn't somehow discover his actions and prevent more pain. We all feel betrayed naturally. We have come to the conclusion that the very dangerous thing about people like him is that they do what they do without conscience, thus it's much easier for them to pretend to be something that they aren't. We cannot live a lie when we love truth, and honestly live before God, respecting His approval as the scripture teaches us. We sang recently, "All through the storm I see they face beaming with love and with saving grace." Our desperate prayer for you all, especially anyone that has been hurt, is that God will show Himself very strong. In Mark 4, the disciples found themselves in the worst storm of their life which caused a lot of distress. But at the conclusion of the storm there was a greater appreciation than ever for the miracle capacity Jesus had to deliver perfect peace despite storms. Our hearts desperately ache for the disappointment and sense of betrayal this will bring to countless hearts and again especially for the pain inflicted to victims. We pray the miracle somehow, someway, someday, will be as great as it was in Mark 4 for all. Keep close to God dear friends. There is an immense capacity in the hand of God to help us. Thank you for all the prayers we know this will generate! Sincerely you brother Doyle S. The letter doesn't even sound like they've gone to the police! I sure wouldn't want to be the worker or friend in possession of that creeps laptop doing my own amateur detective operation....you'll find yourself preaching the gospel to a lot tougher crowd for the next 30 years |
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Post by openingact34 on Mar 24, 2023 11:43:55 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 24, 2023 11:52:30 GMT -5
No it doesn’t sound like they did . However he traveled extensively for years . There could be victims in Canada and elsewhere . As I stated this is going to legal team . We will never know truly how many victims .
It’s appalling that you just send a letter to those in his field
They didn’t bury it quick enough………………If you are a victim in Canada please report to crime stoppers . You don’t have to give your name . So you can be anonymous if it’s in the best interest of your health and trauma !!!!
🤢🤢🤢 I am seeing red , my anger is at the top level . As I said when I first started here , that if I save one person then my job is done .
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Mar 24, 2023 11:54:55 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 24, 2023 11:54:55 GMT -5
Wow thank you for pointing that out . Of course they knew !!!!!! |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 24, 2023 12:04:33 GMT -5
Is there a coroners report available which lists cause of death?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 24, 2023 12:06:25 GMT -5
Dean Bruers church in the motel and the motel in the church complete with compliant handmaidens.
But at least he was not a transexual aye Wally.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 24, 2023 12:09:04 GMT -5
Is there a coroners report available which lists cause of death? I can request under the IOP act from Canada 🇨🇦 but it will serve better in lawyer’s hands . |
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Post by rudyw on Mar 24, 2023 12:09:37 GMT -5
Is there a coroners report available which lists cause of death? One can order a death certificate from the State of Oregon, Clackamas County. IOnly Next of Kin can order, or a funeral director who made the arrangements. I doubt one could freely the Coroner’s Report, but the death certificate would reveal the Coroner’s findings. www.clackamas.us/how-to-get-a-death-certificate |
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 24, 2023 12:12:26 GMT -5
2 offending workers in 7 months . Both dead now ! I am waiting for documents from the government . Our self appointed watchman has failed many …………….. jus sayin
I am SCREAMING
Trigger but it’s worth it
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Post by mountain on Mar 24, 2023 12:25:27 GMT -5
Letter re: Dean Bruer March 20, 2023 Our Dear Friends It is with a very heavy heart we share the following difficult information, but we feel it is imperative that we do so. We trust vou will understang ano be in goreement We have come to the tragic conclusion that Dean Bruer had another side to his life that none of us, except victims, ever witnessed or suspected it has come to the surace in recent months and more so in recent weeks. that Dean was a sexual predator. We never respect or defend such fotally inappropriate behavior among us. There is a very united consensus among us that the only thing to do is to be transparent with all of you for obvious reasons, though this is very difficult. We are very sorry for the hurt this will bring to the hearts of many. Thankfully, he is no longer in a position to hurt anyone. Some things have come to light from Dean's own records. Dean had his own Best Western Hotel preferred customer account and spent a considerable amount of time and money in motels. As we all know, when he died last June, it was in a motel in Government Camp, OR; a place that he frequented. The receipts often included "two guests. Victims have come forward, and there was very confirming and incriminating evidence found on his computer and phone. His actions include rape and abuse of underage victims. He totally abused his authority as an overseer in order to control, manipulate and threaten his victims. We are strongly recommending our staff look at the Ministry Safe Program and possibly other venues that help understand, recognize, and prevent such problems. Overwhelmingly, our greatest concern in all of this is the victims. known and unknown. We do hope and pray this message somehow reaches the ears of every unknown victim if there are more. We feel very anxious to assure them that we are anxious to do everything possible to be a support. We understand that people like this are dangerously equipped to twist what has happened in such a way that the victim feels it's their fault, and thereby the predator's criminal behavior is hidden from others. We assure you, there is no possibility anyone will lay blame, except at the feet of the ONE very wrong man who has caused your pain. We are sorry! We hope you will have courage to reach out to any of us, or anyone that you feel you can talk to. We understand your need for privacy as well as support working through this, and we all intend to respect that. None of us had any idea that such terrible things were happening until several woks after his death. There is no possible way that this would not have been immediately reported had we known. Some of us very much regret that we didn't somehow discover his actions and prevent more pain. We all feel betrayed naturally. We have come to the conclusion that the very dangerous thing about people like him is that they do what they do without conscience, thus it's much easier for them to pretend to be something that they aren't. We cannot live a lie when we love truth, and honestly live before God, respecting His approval as the scripture teaches us. We sang recently, "All through the storm I see they face beaming with love and with saving grace." Our desperate prayer for you all, especially anyone that has been hurt, is that God will show Himself very strong. In Mark 4, the disciples found themselves in the worst storm of their life which caused a lot of distress. But at the conclusion of the storm there was a greater appreciation than ever for the miracle capacity Jesus had to deliver perfect peace despite storms. Our hearts desperately ache for the disappointment and sense of betrayal this will bring to countless hearts and again especially for the pain inflicted to victims. We pray the miracle somehow, someway, someday, will be as great as it was in Mark 4 for all. Keep close to God dear friends. There is an immense capacity in the hand of God to help us. Thank you for all the prayers we know this will generate! Sincerely you brother Doyle S. The letter doesn't even sound like they've gone to the police! I sure wouldn't want to be the worker or friend in possession of that creeps laptop doing my own amateur detective operation....you'll find yourself preaching the gospel to a lot tougher crowd for the next 30 years I think the police are very much involved in this case. From what is stated in the letter it is obvious to me the workers are acting in the third party. They will have avoided mentioning the police, etc., to try and make the whole matter easier to take. The laptop and phone etc, will have been seized by the police. The tragedy of this case is of the highest magnitude and I am angry, very angry. Years ago I was the FIRST person on these boards to suggest the workers needed to introduce 'immediate' measures to protect minors and other vulnerable persons from being exposed to the type of behaviour mentioned above. This was at a time when such things were only starting to come out AND were quickly dismissed for various reasons. At that time my main focus was on the trust workers had built up by staying in the homes of unrelated people whom they had spiritual control over. A very powerful tool. At that time I was ridiculed for my suggestions. I cannot believe what I am reading, that an Overseer had his own Best Western Hotel preferred customer account and spent a considerable amount of time and money in motels!!! That's bad enough, considering the homeless ministry proclamations, but to be using such a place for his secret life of sex, forced and otherwise, is beyond contemplation. |
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 24, 2023 12:27:05 GMT -5
The letter doesn't even sound like they've gone to the police! I sure wouldn't want to be the worker or friend in possession of that creeps laptop doing my own amateur detective operation....you'll find yourself preaching the gospel to a lot tougher crowd for the next 30 years I think the police are very much involved in this case. From what is stated in the letter it is obvious to me the workers are acting in the third party. They will have avoided mentioning the police, etc., to try and make the whole matter easier to take. The laptop and phone etc, will have been seized by the police. This tragedy of this case is of the highest magnitude and I am angry, very angry. Years ago I was the FIRST person on these boards to suggest the workers needed to introduce 'immediate' measures to protect minors and other vulnerable persons from being exposed to the type of behaviour mentioned above. This was at a time when such things were only starting to come out AND were quickly dismissed for various reasons. At that time my main focus was on the trust workers had built up by staying in the homes of unrelated people whom they had spiritual control over. A very powerful tool. I cannot believe what I am reading, that an Overseer had his own Best Western Hotel preferred customer account and spent a considerable amount of time and money in motels!!! That's bad enough, considering the homeless ministry proclamations, but to be using such place for his secret life of sex, forced and otherwise, is beyond contemplation. I don’t buy their stories for one minute |
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Post by mountain on Mar 24, 2023 12:31:58 GMT -5
I think the police are very much involved in this case. From what is stated in the letter it is obvious to me the workers are acting in the third party. They will have avoided mentioning the police, etc., to try and make the whole matter easier to take. The laptop and phone etc, will have been seized by the police. This tragedy of this case is of the highest magnitude and I am angry, very angry. Years ago I was the FIRST person on these boards to suggest the workers needed to introduce 'immediate' measures to protect minors and other vulnerable persons from being exposed to the type of behaviour mentioned above. This was at a time when such things were only starting to come out AND were quickly dismissed for various reasons. At that time my main focus was on the trust workers had built up by staying in the homes of unrelated people whom they had spiritual control over. A very powerful tool. I cannot believe what I am reading, that an Overseer had his own Best Western Hotel preferred customer account and spent a considerable amount of time and money in motels!!! That's bad enough, considering the homeless ministry proclamations, but to be using such place for his secret life of sex, forced and otherwise, is beyond contemplation. I don’t buy their stories for one minute Have faith. Trust me. With victims coming forward and the details of information found on computer and phone, strongly suggests to me these things have been seized for technical examination. I suspect the above letter is something the workers felt they had to do in view of the bombshell that is about to explode. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2023 12:40:07 GMT -5
Dean Bruers church in the motel and the motel in the church complete with compliant handmaidens. But at least he was not a transexual aye Wally. Cracking jokes about this situation is all we need to know about you nub... |
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Post by verna on Mar 24, 2023 12:40:18 GMT -5
Wow thank you for pointing that out . Of course they knew !!!!!! Chinese whispers- to be accurate this was just put up between yesterday and today. I watched most of them funeral yesterday. |
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 24, 2023 12:42:32 GMT -5
Disturbed’s song
Hello darkness, my old friend, I've come to talk with you again, Because a vision softly creeping, Left Its seeds while I was sleeping,
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence.
In restless dreams I walked alone
Narrow streets of cobblestone,
'Neath the halo of a street lamp;
I turned my collar to the cold and damp
When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence.
And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people, maybe more.
People talking without speaking, People hearing without listening,
People writing songs that voices never share
And no one dared
Disturb the sound of silence.
"Fools"; said I,"You do not know
Silence like a cancer grows.
Hear my words that I might teach you, Take my arms that I might reach you.' But my words like silent raindrops fell,
And echoed
In the wells of silence
And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made.
And the sign flashed out its warning, In the words that it was forming.
And the signs said, The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls And tenement halls.
And whisper'd in the sounds of silence.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2023 12:43:09 GMT -5
2 offending workers in 7 months . Both dead now ! I am waiting for documents from the government . Our self appointed watchman has failed many …………….. jus sayin I am SCREAMING Trigger but it’s worth it Different bailiwick, reading criminal minds isn't my bailiwick either, clown. |
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 24, 2023 12:43:15 GMT -5
Wow thank you for pointing that out . Of course they knew !!!!!! Chinese whispers- to be accurate this was just put up between yesterday and today. I watched most of them funeral yesterday. thx lady you know my wonky brain . |
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 24, 2023 12:44:12 GMT -5
2 offending workers in 7 months . Both dead now ! I am waiting for documents from the government . Our self appointed watchman has failed many …………….. jus sayin I am SCREAMING Trigger but it’s worth it Different bailiwick clown. Stuff it walnuts this is a serious problem . You are damn lucky you have not had to endure such despicable things ! As your God sees your words ! |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 24, 2023 13:04:43 GMT -5
Dean Bruers church in the motel and the motel in the church complete with compliant handmaidens. But at least he was not a transexual aye Wally. Cracking jokes about this situation is all we need to know about you nub... I am sure Bruer was grateful for your donations so he could continue to be a dirty old man. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 24, 2023 13:07:49 GMT -5
2 offending workers in 7 months . Both dead now ! I am waiting for documents from the government . Our self appointed watchman has failed many …………….. jus sayin I am SCREAMING Trigger but it’s worth it Different bailiwick, reading criminal minds isn't my bailiwick either, clown. You are a failure as a watchman. |
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