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Dean Bruer
Apr 26, 2023 21:34:08 GMT -5
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Post by chuck on Apr 26, 2023 21:34:08 GMT -5
Now that's sad. It did seem too good to be true, but I had really wanted it to be true. There is a genuine need for something exactly like that. Pretty sure it’s for real. I have no idea where the suspicion is coming from. What website is this verna?
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Post by verna on Apr 26, 2023 22:10:48 GMT -5
Pretty sure it’s for real. I have no idea where the suspicion is coming from. What website is this verna? There was a post about an old scam website called something like “worker transition”. I mistook it for a new fb group called “a way out”. I was inadvertently arguing for the legitimacy of the “worker transition” website but I was mistaken. The website Worker Transition is NOT legitimate. The new fb group “A Way Out” IS legitimate. Two separate entities. I hope I am am being clear. More information is forthcoming.
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 26, 2023 22:19:08 GMT -5
Pragmatic: When you tell the truth you don't need to change your story. It remains as I've posted from the beginning: Then your mischief/devious conspiracy theory type statement in your recent post: In that you are telling more about yourself not me!🤷♂️ Which overseer approves the high amount of time you spend on this forum? It’s so wonderful that there are no rules! Do you use the guest wifi when you stay at peoples homes to access the Internet? What are your favorite websites to view when you get bored? Do you use porn blockers on your computers? I’m pretty sure Dean Bruer did not have this software.
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Post by internationalstudies on Apr 26, 2023 22:42:34 GMT -5
Pragmatic: When you tell the truth you don't need to change your story. It remains as I've posted from the beginning: Then your mischief/devious conspiracy theory type statement in your recent post: In that you are telling more about yourself not me!🤷♂️ Which overseer approves the high amount of time you spend on this forum? It’s so wonderful that there are no rules! Do you use the guest wifi when you stay at peoples homes to access the Internet? What are your favorite websites to view when you get bored? Do you use porn blockers on your computers? I’m pretty sure Dean Bruer did not have this software. You have lots of questions for me. I have one for you: I have challenged posters to substantiate wild baseless allegations and statements they have made. I have carefully checked my facts before doing that. If you care to reread you will see that, to the last one, they have been unable to do so. Don't be surprised about that. Do you acknowledge this reality? I won't be in the least surprised if you won't.🤷♂️
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 26, 2023 22:59:18 GMT -5
Which overseer approves the high amount of time you spend on this forum? It’s so wonderful that there are no rules! Do you use the guest wifi when you stay at peoples homes to access the Internet? What are your favorite websites to view when you get bored? Do you use porn blockers on your computers? I’m pretty sure Dean Bruer did not have this software. You have lots of questions for me. I have one for you: I have challenged posters to substantiate wild baseless allegations and statements they have made. I carefully check my facts before doing so. If you care to reread you will see that, to the last one, they have been unable to do so. Do acknowledge this reality? The Qanon style scoop you thought was hilarious?
Ray Zwiefelhofer in Maricopa County, Arizona has a trial date of May 18th, 2023. Ray was arrested in September 2022 and has been charged with possessing 87 sexually explicit videos and photos of children, some less than 10 years old. He is out on bail, is not allowed to be around minors (under age 18).
TEMPE, AZ (3TV/CBS 5) — A president of a software company in Phoenix is facing charges for having child porn, court documents said. According to police, officers searched Raymond Zwiefelhofer’s Tempe home on June 21 and seized multiple electronic devices, including an encrypted microSD card. Investigators said they analyzed the card and found 87 sexually explicit videos and photos of children, some less than 10 years old. TRENDING: Feds removes derogatory Native American term from all public lands, including 65 mentions in Arizona
On Tuesday, around 10:30 a.m., police arrested Zwiefelhofer and booked him into jail on 10 counts of sexual exploitation of a minor. Court paperwork said he’s the president of World Software Corporation.
He is/was an elder in the church
True or false? Still hilarious?
What about the victims?
Are you wanting a ministry that is clean for it's own reputations' sake, or are you wanting it clean, because you want there to be no victims of CSA? Probably both, but where is your emphasis?
How about special meetings where there is a case, for educating and counseling people in how to treat a victim? And to understand the gravity of the deed? (As opposed to some feeling sorry for the perpetrator, "who has a problem", more than they do the victim?
The church has a legal obligation, but it also has a moral obligation. The legal side is not too difficult, but the moral side is harder. But other churches are making an effort.
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Post by internationalstudies on Apr 26, 2023 23:17:59 GMT -5
pragmatic, You want me to answer questions about something in America that I know nothing about. It could all be 100% true I have no idea.If it is I accept truth. But first YOUR postings: a)Incorrect misleading statements, that I have called you out on. b)Your further nonsense earlier today. Your devious conspiracy theory type approach in your next crack at me. Which I have again shown for what it is. Once you have your house in order, you will have the 'moral high ground' you need to start pointing fingers elsewhere.
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Dean Bruer
Apr 26, 2023 23:19:53 GMT -5
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 26, 2023 23:19:53 GMT -5
Which overseer approves the high amount of time you spend on this forum? It’s so wonderful that there are no rules! Do you use the guest wifi when you stay at peoples homes to access the Internet? What are your favorite websites to view when you get bored? Do you use porn blockers on your computers? I’m pretty sure Dean Bruer did not have this software. You have lots of questions for me. I have one for you: I have challenged posters to substantiate wild baseless allegations and statements they have made. I have carefully checked my facts before doing that. If you care to reread you will see that, to the last one, they have been unable to do so. Don't be surprised about that. Do you acknowledge this reality? I won't be in the least surprised if you won't.🤷♂️ Will you answer my questions? If you do I’ll answer your questions.
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Dean Bruer
Apr 26, 2023 23:24:40 GMT -5
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 26, 2023 23:24:40 GMT -5
Here is a quote from Lyle Schober regarding Dean. Thoughts? “As members of this ministry, we want to assure you of how much we love and care for you. We are heartbroken by the disgrace of human failure, but our faith in the Lord’s ministry is unchanged. This is the ministry that our Lord established in the earth. Human failure can compromise its testimony, but it cannot undermine its validity. Judas Iscariot was also a part of this ministry, but in the wake of his betrayal the Holy Spirit still impelled this same ministry forward.” wingsfortruth.info/2023/03/30/lyle-schober-letter-to-texas-friends-march-2023/
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Post by jennyfromtheblock on Apr 26, 2023 23:38:34 GMT -5
Here is a quote from Lyle Schober regarding Dean. Thoughts? “As members of this ministry, we want to assure you of how much we love and care for you. We are heartbroken by the disgrace of human failure, but our faith in the Lord’s ministry is unchanged. This is the ministry that our Lord established in the earth. Human failure can compromise its testimony, but it cannot undermine its validity. Judas Iscariot was also a part of this ministry, but in the wake of his betrayal the Holy Spirit still impelled this same ministry forward.” wingsfortruth.info/2023/03/30/lyle-schober-letter-to-texas-friends-march-2023/What are you getting at? “The One True Way!!” Oh no! Let’s hear your diatribe on this topic again. Make sure you add some information about porn addictions.
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Post by mountain on Apr 26, 2023 23:53:04 GMT -5
Mary miraculously conceived by the agency of the Holy Spirit (no sexual intercourse). The point I was trying to make was that nowadays it is possible for a human being or indeed certain mammals (eg sheep, goats, horses, etc) to become pregnant without the intervention of sexual intercourse, ie through the process of artificial insemination and thus if they were virginal, they could produce virgin births (no sex involved). The definition of a virgin is an unbroken hymen. No woman can give birth and remain a virgin. Artificial insemination of a human. Okay. By the holy spirit? At one point in time in Christian doctrine the holy spirit was female. Quite the feat! Oh my bad, you believe in the trinity which would mean that one of the three must be male? But then I've also been told that God is genderless. Now what? You can see how someone as 'challenged' as I cannot understand all these things. There was real meaning in calling the Spirit 'She'." In the Catholic Church, the Holy Spirit is referred to in English as "He" in liturgical texts; however, the Holy See directs that "the established gender usage of each respective language [is] to be maintained." The cultural definition of a virgin is a female who has not been with a man (sexual intercourse). This is the context of virgin that I was referring to, not the medical definition. I mean. let's be real about this. Whenever anyone hears the term virgin used in general conversation, who automatically thinks that the woman being referred to has an 'unbroken hymen?' In 100% of the times I have heard/used the term it is in reference to a woman not having had sexual intercourse with a man! We can take steps further. Men who have not had sex with a woman are also commonly referred to as virgins nowadays. If the term virgin was commonly held to be a reference to an unbroken hymen, every male would be a virgin! Holy Spirit is definitely male. Jesus tells us it 'proceeds from the Father!' You know fine I do not believe in the trinity. Please Snow, go wash your typing fingers with soap! I bin just about anything that comes from the 'tholic church.
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Dean Bruer
Apr 26, 2023 23:53:16 GMT -5
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 26, 2023 23:53:16 GMT -5
Here is a quote from Lyle Schober regarding Dean. Thoughts? “As members of this ministry, we want to assure you of how much we love and care for you. We are heartbroken by the disgrace of human failure, but our faith in the Lord’s ministry is unchanged. This is the ministry that our Lord established in the earth. Human failure can compromise its testimony, but it cannot undermine its validity. Judas Iscariot was also a part of this ministry, but in the wake of his betrayal the Holy Spirit still impelled this same ministry forward.” wingsfortruth.info/2023/03/30/lyle-schober-letter-to-texas-friends-march-2023/What are you getting at? “The One True Way!!” Oh no! Let’s hear your diatribe on this topic again. Make sure you add some information about porn addictions. I’m sorry you had given me hope that I wasn’t considered a lost sheep.
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Dean Bruer
Apr 26, 2023 23:54:00 GMT -5
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 26, 2023 23:54:00 GMT -5
Here is a quote from Lyle Schober regarding Dean. Thoughts? “As members of this ministry, we want to assure you of how much we love and care for you. We are heartbroken by the disgrace of human failure, but our faith in the Lord’s ministry is unchanged. This is the ministry that our Lord established in the earth. Human failure can compromise its testimony, but it cannot undermine its validity. Judas Iscariot was also a part of this ministry, but in the wake of his betrayal the Holy Spirit still impelled this same ministry forward.” wingsfortruth.info/2023/03/30/lyle-schober-letter-to-texas-friends-march-2023/What are you getting at? “The One True Way!!” Oh no! Let’s hear your diatribe on this topic again. Make sure you add some information about porn addictions. Make sure they don’t have your Wi-Fi password when they stay in your kids bedroom.
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 26, 2023 23:57:11 GMT -5
What are you getting at? “The One True Way!!” Oh no! Let’s hear your diatribe on this topic again. Make sure you add some information about porn addictions. Make sure they don’t have your Wi-Fi password when they stay in your kids bedroom. It makes no difference if they have reasonable data plan on the mobile.
But as I have said earlier, if someone is in doubt, then put the modem/router in diagnostic or verbose logging mode.
If certain sites such as porn, kiddie-porn, gambling, or violence sites have been accessed, you then have a moral dilemma. What do you do with the information?
I would suggest that kiddie porn becomes a legal issue, the others a moral issue.
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Post by jennyfromtheblock on Apr 27, 2023 0:31:35 GMT -5
What are you getting at? “The One True Way!!” Oh no! Let’s hear your diatribe on this topic again. Make sure you add some information about porn addictions. I’m sorry you had given me hope that I wasn’t considered a lost sheep. Yes, sorry. I got a little presumptuous in that last response. I don’t care much if Lyle thinks he’s an apostle for the only way because I don’t personally subscribe to that ideology. I believe the Kingdom of Heaven will be filled with Christian’s from many different denominations and people from all walks of life. Lyle might think he’s part of a special way, and I actually think it is pretty special too. I just don’t share the beliefs about this being the only one way. They’re welcome to believe that, I’ll respect their beliefs just as I try to do with my friends that practice other religions and/or Christian denominations.
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Post by mrdobalina on Apr 27, 2023 0:50:35 GMT -5
I am unmoved the fixit and his 'worker 101' etc. It's the stuff he parrots regularly, it's his mindset! 🤷♂️. His thousands of posts reflecting this. What's new?🤷♂️ I have challenged posters to substantiate wild baseless allegations and statements they have made. I carefully check my facts before doing so. If you care to reread you will see that to the last one, they have been unable to do so. Hence my lack of concern at the flack I am attracting! No knowledge ever entered a head through an open mouth.
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Post by fixit on Apr 27, 2023 1:12:26 GMT -5
I’m sorry you had given me hope that I wasn’t considered a lost sheep. Yes, sorry. I got a little presumptuous in that last response. I don’t care much if Lyle thinks he’s an apostle for the only way because I don’t personally subscribe to that ideology. I believe the Kingdom of Heaven will be filled with Christian’s from many different denominations and people from all walks of life. Lyle might think he’s part of a special way, and I actually think it is pretty special too. I just don’t share the beliefs about this being the only one way. They’re welcome to believe that, I’ll respect their beliefs just as I try to do with my friends that practice other religions and/or Christian denominations. It's a hard sell and turns a lot of people away.
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Post by chuck on Apr 27, 2023 2:00:36 GMT -5
Here is a quote from Lyle Schober regarding Dean. Thoughts? “As members of this ministry, we want to assure you of how much we love and care for you. We are heartbroken by the disgrace of human failure, but our faith in the Lord’s ministry is unchanged. This is the ministry that our Lord established in the earth. Human failure can compromise its testimony, but it cannot undermine its validity. Judas Iscariot was also a part of this ministry, but in the wake of his betrayal the Holy Spirit still impelled this same ministry forward.” wingsfortruth.info/2023/03/30/lyle-schober-letter-to-texas-friends-march-2023/"but our faith in the Lord’s ministry is unchanged. This is the ministry that our Lord established in the earth" Extremely hubris the antithesis of salvation and a higly ignorant comment.
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Post by snow on Apr 27, 2023 13:06:48 GMT -5
The definition of a virgin is an unbroken hymen. No woman can give birth and remain a virgin. Artificial insemination of a human. Okay. By the holy spirit? At one point in time in Christian doctrine the holy spirit was female. Quite the feat! Oh my bad, you believe in the trinity which would mean that one of the three must be male? But then I've also been told that God is genderless. Now what? You can see how someone as 'challenged' as I cannot understand all these things. There was real meaning in calling the Spirit 'She'." In the Catholic Church, the Holy Spirit is referred to in English as "He" in liturgical texts; however, the Holy See directs that "the established gender usage of each respective language [is] to be maintained." It would have been similar I'll bet to Artificial insemination. Just because we've found it now doesn't mean God didn't know how to do it then. And a Creator of the universe would have no problems doing something like it. Well I do realize that belief in a creator is essential to be able to explain many things that make no sense or don't obey the laws of nature in the bible. Why it's necessary to believe something that has to be taken on faith is something I just don't understand.
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Post by snow on Apr 27, 2023 14:48:07 GMT -5
Here is a quote from Lyle Schober regarding Dean. Thoughts? “As members of this ministry, we want to assure you of how much we love and care for you. We are heartbroken by the disgrace of human failure, but our faith in the Lord’s ministry is unchanged. This is the ministry that our Lord established in the earth. Human failure can compromise its testimony, but it cannot undermine its validity. Judas Iscariot was also a part of this ministry, but in the wake of his betrayal the Holy Spirit still impelled this same ministry forward.” wingsfortruth.info/2023/03/30/lyle-schober-letter-to-texas-friends-march-2023/To compare Dean to Judas just makes me angry. Like CSA is somehow equal to Judas who wanted more money. It's been the theme in so many of these letters and it is so transparent. I am so sick of their attempts at trying to downplay what is happening. The disgrace of human failure. You only word something that way when you are more focused on the blow to the workers reputation than on the vile CSA and it's effects on the survivors of CSA. The victims are mentioned very quickly and then the bulk of the letter is all about staying faithful to the group, to the system etc.
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Post by snow on Apr 27, 2023 15:03:55 GMT -5
The definition of a virgin is an unbroken hymen. No woman can give birth and remain a virgin. Artificial insemination of a human. Okay. By the holy spirit? At one point in time in Christian doctrine the holy spirit was female. Quite the feat! Oh my bad, you believe in the trinity which would mean that one of the three must be male? But then I've also been told that God is genderless. Now what? You can see how someone as 'challenged' as I cannot understand all these things. There was real meaning in calling the Spirit 'She'." In the Catholic Church, the Holy Spirit is referred to in English as "He" in liturgical texts; however, the Holy See directs that "the established gender usage of each respective language [is] to be maintained." The cultural definition of a virgin is a female who has not been with a man (sexual intercourse). This is the context of virgin that I was referring to, not the medical definition. I mean. let's be real about this. Whenever anyone hears the term virgin used in general conversation, who automatically thinks that the woman being referred to has an 'unbroken hymen?' In 100% of the times I have heard/used the term it is in reference to a woman not having had sexual intercourse with a man! We can take steps further. Men who have not had sex with a woman are also commonly referred to as virgins nowadays. If the term virgin was commonly held to be a reference to an unbroken hymen, every male would be a virgin! Holy Spirit is definitely male. Jesus tells us it 'proceeds from the Father!' You know fine I do not believe in the trinity. Please Snow, go wash your typing fingers with soap! I bin just about anything that comes from the 'tholic church. How do you know the holy spirit is male? Because the RCC claims it's so? You just asked me to wash my fingers because I referred to the catholic church and the trinity yet you are more than willing to take their definition of what gender the holy spirit is. Originally the holy spirit was considered 'she'. Yes culturally a virgin is someone that hasn't had intercourse. We also know that intercourse isn't always required to get pregnant and artificial insemination isn't needed. We can also bring up the fact that the word 'virgin' as it's noted in the bible language meant a young woman. Not any particular 'kind' of a young woman. I get you believe this. So my thoughts are not important.
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Post by mountain on Apr 27, 2023 16:44:51 GMT -5
The cultural definition of a virgin is a female who has not been with a man (sexual intercourse). This is the context of virgin that I was referring to, not the medical definition. I mean. let's be real about this. Whenever anyone hears the term virgin used in general conversation, who automatically thinks that the woman being referred to has an 'unbroken hymen?' In 100% of the times I have heard/used the term it is in reference to a woman not having had sexual intercourse with a man! We can take steps further. Men who have not had sex with a woman are also commonly referred to as virgins nowadays. If the term virgin was commonly held to be a reference to an unbroken hymen, every male would be a virgin! Holy Spirit is definitely male. Jesus tells us it 'proceeds from the Father!' You know fine I do not believe in the trinity. Please Snow, go wash your typing fingers with soap! I bin just about anything that comes from the 'tholic church. How do you know the holy spirit is male? Because the RCC claims it's so? You just asked me to wash my fingers because I referred to the catholic church and the trinity yet you are more than willing to take their definition of what gender the holy spirit is. Originally the holy spirit was considered 'she'. Yes culturally a virgin is someone that hasn't had intercourse. We also know that intercourse isn't always required to get pregnant and artificial insemination isn't needed. We can also bring up the fact that the word 'virgin' as it's noted in the bible language meant a young woman. Not any particular 'kind' of a young woman. I get you believe this. So my thoughts are not important. God created man in his own image. Adam. Adam was male. God saw that it was not good for man to be alone so he created a helper for him, a woman. Woman was created from a rib bone taken from the man. God is always referred to as 'he', never she or they. God is a one person God. Transgenderism is a thing for these last days when a male can be a female, vice versa and anything in between. This is anathema to God and does not represent his character. Please don't include myself in with Catholic beliefs. I don't know what they believe so it's inappropriate to assume that I believe things because they say so. Best keep them out of our dialogue. It causes confusion. Putting anything the Catholic Church says aside, can you show me where the Holy Spirit is referred to as 'she?' From the scripture that is. I have seen he and I have seen 'it' but never she. Also the Holy Spirit is God's spirit and God is a 'he!' Yes virgin often referred to a 'young woman' in the scripture, but it was generally an unmarried young woman who were accepted as not having been with a man until marriage.
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 27, 2023 16:53:12 GMT -5
And was also sometimes a Monastic Order. I like Dave Allen's take on God after creating Adam......he looked down on him, and saw that he was happy!
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Post by snow on Apr 27, 2023 17:13:32 GMT -5
How do you know the holy spirit is male? Because the RCC claims it's so? You just asked me to wash my fingers because I referred to the catholic church and the trinity yet you are more than willing to take their definition of what gender the holy spirit is. Originally the holy spirit was considered 'she'. Yes culturally a virgin is someone that hasn't had intercourse. We also know that intercourse isn't always required to get pregnant and artificial insemination isn't needed. We can also bring up the fact that the word 'virgin' as it's noted in the bible language meant a young woman. Not any particular 'kind' of a young woman. I get you believe this. So my thoughts are not important. God created man in his own image. Adam. Adam was male. God saw that it was not good for man to be alone so he created a helper for him, a woman. Woman was created from a rib bone taken from the man. God is always referred to as 'he', never she or they. God is a one person God. Transgenderism is a thing for these last days when a male can be a female, vice versa and anything in between. This is anathema to God and does not represent his character. Please don't include myself in with Catholic beliefs. I don't know what they believe so it's inappropriate to assume that I believe things because they say so. Best keep them out of our dialogue. It causes confusion. Putting anything the Catholic Church says aside, can you show me where the Holy Spirit is referred to as 'she?' From the scripture that is. I have seen he and I have seen 'it' but never she. Also the Holy Spirit is God's spirit and God is a 'he!' Yes virgin often referred to a 'young woman' in the scripture, but it was generally an unmarried young woman who were accepted as not having been with a man until marriage. Early Christian groups, mostly made up of Jews considered the Holy spirit to be feminine. As I said it was seen as feminine at one point in time. The word ruach in Hebrew was mostly used as a feminine and ruach is spirit. Also the Holy spirit has been described as wisdom and in the early churches Sophia was described as knowledge/wisdom and was definitely feminine. The spirit of the Lord is also defined as wisdom, again viewed as feminine. It also makes sense that the HS is feminine as Jesus claims you must be born again of the holy spirit and sometimes in Hebrew calls it 'mother'. www.mothergodexperiment.com/is-the-holy-spirit-feminine/This is from a Jewish site that you might find interesting reading. In any case, this isn't the thread to discuss this really. And I really don't care if the HS is female or male. blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-importance-of-hebrew-with-regards-to-the-holy-spirit-in-christianity/ www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0259-94222016000100026#:~:text=Wisdom%20is%20equated%20with%20the,traditions%20express%20the%20same%20concept.
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Post by mrdobalina on Apr 27, 2023 17:23:06 GMT -5
Pragmatic: When you tell the truth you don't need to change your story. It remains as I've posted from the beginning: Then your mischief/devious conspiracy theory type statement in your recent post: In that you are telling more about yourself not me!🤷♂️ Which overseer approves the high amount of time you spend on this forum? It’s so wonderful that there are no rules! Do you use the guest wifi when you stay at peoples homes to access the Internet? What are your favorite websites to view when you get bored? Do you use porn blockers on your computers? I’m pretty sure Dean Bruer did not have this software. His overseer is Wayne Dean.
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Dean Bruer
Apr 27, 2023 17:49:08 GMT -5
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 27, 2023 17:49:08 GMT -5
Which overseer approves the high amount of time you spend on this forum? It’s so wonderful that there are no rules! Do you use the guest wifi when you stay at peoples homes to access the Internet? What are your favorite websites to view when you get bored? Do you use porn blockers on your computers? I’m pretty sure Dean Bruer did not have this software. His overseer is Wayne Dean. Wow! I Never thought my question would be answered! Thanks!
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Post by mrdobalina on Apr 27, 2023 17:54:32 GMT -5
His overseer is Wayne Dean. Wow! I Never thought my question would be answered! Thanks! The Lord works in mysterious ways. I'm simply a vessel to be filled . . . . preferably with beer and barbecue ribs.
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 27, 2023 18:12:41 GMT -5
Wow! I Never thought my question would be answered! Thanks! The Lord works in mysterious ways. I'm simply a vessel to be filled . . . . preferably with beer and barbecue ribs. I prefer a few emotes with my ribs 😝😳👍😄 it really provides for plausible deniability if you think I’m being in appropriate!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 27, 2023 18:25:46 GMT -5
And was also sometimes a Monastic Order. I like Dave Allen's take on God after creating Adam......he looked down on him, and saw that he was happy! Careful now.
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