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Post by Grant on Apr 16, 2023 14:57:02 GMT -5
Vinny, I'm all confused! Why, but yesterday you posted about me aka captain pervert protector I don't think you are a person who keeps your word? You have not blocked me like you said you would. But here you are with your 'highest level military and police training experience' 'on my case' again. I'm beginning to feel you are in fact rather fond of me and can't leave me alone? đł You can't stop posts from appearing in the quote section that someone else has replied to. I also notice that you said Chuck had 2000 more posts on another thead, to go before he reached 10,000. He has more like nearly 3,000, in fact 2,800 to go. |
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Post by internationalstudies on Apr 16, 2023 15:01:03 GMT -5
Vinny, I'm all confused! Why, but yesterday you posted about me aka captain pervert protector I don't think you are a person who keeps your word? You have not blocked me like you said you would. But here you are with your 'highest level military and police training experience' 'on my case' again. I'm beginning to feel you are in fact rather fond of me and can't leave me alone? đł You can't stop posts from appearing in the quote section that someone else has replied to. I also notice that you said Chuck had 2000 more posts on another thead, to go before he reached 10,000. He has more like nearly 3,000, in fact 2,800 to go. Appreciate this correction, thank you enuf!  It is important that the correct number of posts that chuck has made is stated. I was exaggerating by about 1000. |
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 16, 2023 15:02:04 GMT -5
The worse part of all of this is this 2x2 church doesnât want to be a church. So regardless of website itâs designed to be setup like the mafia to keep the government free of identifying a paper trail that points to guilty leaders in the church. The website is only useful if people use the website. Who will monitor the website? Who will document feedback from reports on the website? Who will document actions taken by whom as a result is the report? How will meeting notes between leadership discussing the issue be recorded and reported? How will doctrine be changed to ensure that the friends are clearly told they are not the original apostles of Christ and that the workers do not have the authority that even Paul had over the church. And that the man William Irvine started the church and that he was not a prophet like the gap between the OT and the NT. And that Jesus is the true way and that other churches also follow Jesus so itâs ok to have fellowship with them. These would be good first steps. Amen luke2236! You need to appoint yourself as the consultant to the workers and their website project. So that they take these salient points on board. They are hopeless incapable dishonest lot and they'll botch it up except you appoint yourself to this role. Thanks for the validation and confidence. |
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Post by mrdobalina on Apr 16, 2023 15:27:24 GMT -5
Fact 1 we all know the lie you just can't seem to face up to. Fact 2 At least two of your overseers (one deceased) are proven pedophiles, and so is the 2x2 elder I reported, with over 200 more complaints pending. Why are you choking on the facts? Yes there have been/are CSA offenders amongst friends and workers. If restating again what we all already know and acknowledge is therapeutic for you/ gives you cathartic release, then excellent, I'm happy for you. Regarding the false and baseless accusation you made about me: "Given that you pedal lies and pedophiles I wouldn't be too cocky though,"
If doing this meets some need/'spins your wheels' for you.... then please continue! I won't lose sleep over it! đ¤ˇââď¸  I restated it with clarification because you claimed I was making false and baseless accusations, not because it gives me some kind of therapeutic release as you claim. Your constant attempts to turn yourself into the victim and me into some kind of unbalanced villan is the absolute height of narcissim. |
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Post by internationalstudies on Apr 16, 2023 15:52:16 GMT -5
Yes there have been/are CSA offenders amongst friends and workers. If restating again what we all already know and acknowledge is therapeutic for you/ gives you cathartic release, then excellent, I'm happy for you. Regarding the false and baseless accusation you made about me: "Given that you pedal lies and pedophiles I wouldn't be too cocky though,"
If doing this meets some need/'spins your wheels' for you.... then please continue! I won't lose sleep over it! đ¤ˇââď¸ I restated it with clarification because you claimed I was making false and baseless accusations, not because it gives me some kind of therapeutic release as you claim. Your constant attempts to turn yourself into the victim and me into some kind of unbalanced villan is the absolute height of narcissim. You are digging yourself deeper into your hole of dishonesty! You remind me of the workers, they are like that. đ |
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Post by mrdobalina on Apr 16, 2023 15:54:39 GMT -5
I restated it with clarification because you claimed I was making false and baseless accusations, not because it gives me some kind of therapeutic release as you claim. Your constant attempts to turn yourself into the victim and me into some kind of unbalanced villan is the absolute height of narcissim. You are digging yourself deeper into your hole of dishonesty! You remind me of the workers, they are like that. đ And more of the same. The only thing you can do with a narcissist is to walk away. Good luck concealing that pathetic lie you claim gives people hope and joy. Oh, I forgot, narcissists believe their own lies . . . . . |
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Post by Vinny T. on Apr 16, 2023 16:00:13 GMT -5
Vinny, I'm all confused! Why, but yesterday you posted about me aka captain pervert protector I don't think you are a person who keeps your word? You have not blocked me like you said you would. But here you are with your 'highest level military and police training experience' 'on my case' again. I'm beginning to feel you are in fact rather fond of me and can't leave me alone? đł You can't stop posts from appearing in the quote section that someone else has replied to. I also notice that you said Chuck had 2000 more posts on another thead, to go before he reached 10,000. He has more like nearly 3,000, in fact 2,800 to go. Mr idontstudy only has one agenda to cause problems by being aggressive, argumentative and an agitator. I have in fact blocked him. He is an evil man in my opinion who wants to protect the perverts and the church regardless of the damage they do to others and their families by committing these vile acts then consistently covering them up. I have zero desire to engage with someone like that. He can keep provoking me all he wants. The man is not good. |
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Post by Vinny T. on Apr 16, 2023 16:02:08 GMT -5
You are digging yourself deeper into your hole of dishonesty! You remind me of the workers, they are like that. đ And more of the same. The only thing you can do with a narcissist is to walk away. Good luck concealing that pathetic lie you claim gives people hope and joy. Oh, I forgot, narcissists believe their own lies . . . . . How many is this guy isn't arguing with? |
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Post by mrdobalina on Apr 16, 2023 16:06:07 GMT -5
You can't stop posts from appearing in the quote section that someone else has replied to. I also notice that you said Chuck had 2000 more posts on another thead, to go before he reached 10,000. He has more like nearly 3,000, in fact 2,800 to go. Mr idontstudy only has one agenda to cause problems by being aggressive, argumentative and an agitator. I have in fact blocked him. He is an evil man in my opinion who wants to protect the perverts and the church regardless of the damage they do to others and their families by committing these vile acts then consistently covering them up. I have zero desire to engage with someone like that. He can keep provoking me all he wants. The man is not good. Yes, he certainly comes across as the pervert protector. Honesty welcomes scrutiny. That speaks volumes about his own values and behaviour. The higher the horse the greater the fall. |
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Post by chuck on Apr 16, 2023 16:26:32 GMT -5
It wasn't my allegation. I was commenting on someone elses observation and it did not surprise me. Chuck the allegator: I KNEW that the basis of your allegation would be something as weak and pathetic as this, that is why I challenged you on it! đ You are mistaken. I said I know it to be true that overseers direct money to trusted elders. That's it. The observation by someone else that elders may have used these funds for their benefit was something that would not suprise me. I also said I was not going to name my source or sources as good people would end up hurt. Anything else was constructed by you. |
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Post by internationalstudies on Apr 16, 2023 16:30:45 GMT -5
Mr idontstudy only has one agenda to cause problems by being aggressive, argumentative and an agitator. I have in fact blocked him. He is an evil man in my opinion who wants to protect the perverts and the church regardless of the damage they do to others and their families by committing these vile acts then consistently covering them up. I have zero desire to engage with someone like that. He can keep provoking me all he wants. The man is not good. Yes, he certainly comes across as the pervert protector. That speaks volumes about his own values and behaviour. The higher the horse the greater the fall. You are giving me a good chuckle! You seem to be a lovely happy soul, revealing and sharing that in all your posts here! đ¤ |
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Post by internationalstudies on Apr 16, 2023 16:31:52 GMT -5
Chuck the allegator: I KNEW that the basis of your allegation would be something as weak and pathetic as this, that is why I challenged you on it! đ You are mistaken. I said I know it to be true that overseers direct money to trusted elders. That's it. The observation by someone else that elders may have used these funds for their benefit was something that would not suprise me. I also said I was not going to name my source or sources as good people would end up hurt. Anything else was constructed by you. Yes yes!  |
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Post by mrdobalina on Apr 16, 2023 16:35:00 GMT -5
Yes, he certainly comes across as the pervert protector. That speaks volumes about his own values and behaviour. The higher the horse the greater the fall. You are giving me a good chuckle! You seem to be a lovely happy soul, revealing and sharing that in all your posts here! đ¤ Thank you, yes I certainly am a happy soul, and my fantastic wife often says I am lovely, both to myself and others, so at least you are on point there. |
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Post by internationalstudies on Apr 16, 2023 16:46:08 GMT -5
You are giving me a good chuckle! You seem to be a lovely happy soul, revealing and sharing that in all your posts here! đ¤ Thank you, yes I certainly am a happy soul, and my fantastic wife often says I am lovely, both to myself and others, so at least you are on point there. That's terrific! Glad you have this necessary confirmation from your fantastic wife!đ She's obviously not a pervert protector like me or nasty and unpleasant like the workers mostly are. |
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Post by chuck on Apr 16, 2023 17:08:29 GMT -5
The worse part of all of this is this 2x2 church doesnât want to be a church. So regardless of website itâs designed to be setup like the mafia to keep the government free of identifying a paper trail that points to guilty leaders in the church. The website is only useful if people use the website. Who will monitor the website? Who will document feedback from reports on the website? Who will document actions taken by whom as a result is the report? How will meeting notes between leadership discussing the issue be recorded and reported? How will doctrine be changed to ensure that the friends are clearly told they are not the original apostles of Christ and that the workers do not have the authority that even Paul had over the church. And that the man William Irvine started the church and that he was not a prophet like the gap between the OT and the NT. And that Jesus is the true way and that other churches also follow Jesus so itâs ok to have fellowship with them. These would be good first steps. Amen luke2236! You need to appoint yourself as the consultant to the workers and their website project. So that they take these salient points on board. They are hopeless incapable dishonest lot and they'll botch it up except you appoint yourself to this role. The only reason you are here is because there have been lots of things botched....this is the inevitable result of too many people in positions of power who are removed from reality. I also might add the position workers take is power no man should have. |
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Post by internationalstudies on Apr 16, 2023 17:14:05 GMT -5
Amen luke2236! You need to appoint yourself as the consultant to the workers and their website project. So that they take these salient points on board. They are hopeless incapable dishonest lot and they'll botch it up except you appoint yourself to this role. The only reason you are here is because there have been lots of things botched....this is the inevitable result of too many people in positions of power who are removed from reality. I also might add the position workers take is power no man should have. Appreciate your valuable help and advice about the botched workers (who usurp power that no man should have) and the silly friends who, on the whole, seem to be deceived by them. How helpful and refreshing to have you posting here about all their errors and delusion. oh p.s. Glad of also the therapeutic benefit there for you to be able to unload on this forum about the whole silly bunch of them. They really 'get on your goat' don't they? You are trying to save them and show them their errors but they unfortunately seem rather unreceptive to it and to change according as you have told them they need to? What to do? Post a few more thousand posts, perhaps they'll then start to sit up and listen and see the error of their ways? Who knows, it's worth you trying anyway! |
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Post by luke2236 on Apr 16, 2023 17:15:01 GMT -5
Amen luke2236! You need to appoint yourself as the consultant to the workers and their website project. So that they take these salient points on board. They are hopeless incapable dishonest lot and they'll botch it up except you appoint yourself to this role. The only reason you are here is because there have been lots of things botched....this is the inevitable result of too many people in positions of power who are removed from reality. I also might add the position workers take is power no man should have. Chuck give the guy credit from his last post he had a lot of good points! |
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Post by internationalstudies on Apr 16, 2023 17:24:29 GMT -5
And more of the same. The only thing you can do with a narcissist is to walk away. Good luck concealing that pathetic lie you claim gives people hope and joy. Oh, I forgot, narcissists believe their own lies . . . . . How many is this guy isn't arguing with? You have let me down Vinny! You haven't kept your word! You said you had blocked me. But here is black and white proof that you haven't. I'm going to recommend to the cops and military that you train they need to be careful about you. You don't keep your word. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2023 18:28:38 GMT -5
Vinny, I'm all confused! Why, but yesterday you posted about me: I don't think you are a person who keeps your word? You have not blocked me like you said you would. But here you are with your 'highest level military and police training experience' 'on my case' again. I'm beginning to feel you are in fact rather fond of me and can't leave me alone? đł If someone blocks you and then someone else replies to your msg, they can see it...and you can always peek... |
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 16, 2023 19:09:48 GMT -5
Vinny, I'm all confused! Why, but yesterday you posted about me: I don't think you are a person who keeps your word? You have not blocked me like you said you would. But here you are with your 'highest level military and police training experience'  'on my case' again. I'm beginning to feel you are in fact rather fond of me and can't leave me alone? đł If someone blocks you and then someone else replies to your msg, they can see it...and you can always peek... Damn it kudoâs to Wally ! WTH 3 times in a week đ |
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Post by mrdobalina on Apr 16, 2023 19:15:13 GMT -5
If someone blocks you and then someone else replies to your msg, they can see it...and you can always peek... Damn it kudoâs to Wally ! WTH 3 times in a week đ He's getting quite good lately, I've nearly worn out the like button on him. |
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 16, 2023 20:11:39 GMT -5
No kidding . I think itâs awesome ! I was really truly troubled by the thought he would have possibly been MHâs companion . I am so glad he didnât end up in that situation . I AM đŻ % sure Wally would have drawn the line . That I am absolutely SURE OF ! Regardless of our verbal 2x4âs
that he would not have tolerated MHâS behavior . True dat !
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 16, 2023 20:38:48 GMT -5
No kidding . I think itâs awesome ! I was really truly troubled by the thought he would have possibly been MHâs companion . I am so glad he didnât end up in that situation . I AM đŻ % sure Wally would have drawn the line . That I am absolutely SURE OF ! Regardless of our verbal 2x4âs that he would not have tolerated MHâS behavior . True dat ! Yup, Wally and I have had some strong debates in the past, and he does call a spade a drain-digger, but I get the strong impression, that he would not have tolerated that sort of behaviour one bit. Who knows, the conceal and carry might have lost the conceal bit!
And yes, he is right on the block issue, and good on ya Wally for saying it straight.
Happy belated birthday CW
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Post by chuck on Apr 16, 2023 21:40:50 GMT -5
The only reason you are here is because there have been lots of things botched....this is the inevitable result of too many people in positions of power who are removed from reality. I also might add the position workers take is power no man should have. Appreciate your valuable help and advice about the botched workers (who usurp power that no man should have) and the silly friends who, on the whole, seem to be deceived by them. How helpful and refreshing to have you posting here about all their errors and delusion. oh p.s. Glad of also the therapeutic benefit there for you to be able to unload on this forum about the whole silly bunch of them. They really 'get on your goat' don't they? You are trying to save them and show them their errors but they unfortunately seem rather unreceptive to it and to change according as you have told them they need to? What to do? Post a few more thousand posts, perhaps they'll then start to sit up and listen and see the error of their ways? Who knows, it's worth you trying anyway! What gets on my goat is dsimissive attitudes from system enablers lead to the Dean Bruer tragedy. |
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Post by mrdobalina on Apr 16, 2023 22:29:18 GMT -5
The only reason you are here is because there have been lots of things botched....this is the inevitable result of too many people in positions of power who are removed from reality. I also might add the position workers take is power no man should have. Appreciate your valuable help and advice about the botched workers (who usurp power that no man should have) and the silly friends who, on the whole, seem to be deceived by them. How helpful and refreshing to have you posting here about all their errors and delusion. oh p.s. Glad of also the therapeutic benefit there for you to be able to unload on this forum about the whole silly bunch of them. They really 'get on your goat' don't they? You are trying to save them and show them their errors but they unfortunately seem rather unreceptive to it and to change according as you have told them they need to? What to do? Post a few more thousand posts, perhaps they'll then start to sit up and listen and see the error of their ways? Who knows, it's worth you trying anyway! Are you capable of holding a rational and adult debate? Or do you simply resort to sarcasm, childish put downs, personal attacks and snarky comments as some kind of defence mechanism when someone does not entirely agree with your point of view? |
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Post by internationalstudies on Apr 17, 2023 0:48:14 GMT -5
Appreciate your valuable help and advice about the botched workers (who usurp power that no man should have) and the silly friends who, on the whole, seem to be deceived by them. How helpful and refreshing to have you posting here about all their errors and delusion. oh p.s. Glad of also the therapeutic benefit there for you to be able to unload on this forum about the whole silly bunch of them. They really 'get on your goat' don't they? You are trying to save them and show them their errors but they unfortunately seem rather unreceptive to it and to change according as you have told them they need to? What to do? Post a few more thousand posts, perhaps they'll then start to sit up and listen and see the error of their ways? Who knows, it's worth you trying anyway! Are you capable of holding a rational and adult debate? Or do you simply resort to sarcasm, childish put downs, personal attacks and snarky comments as some kind of defence mechanism when someone does not entirely agree with your point of view? I won't be entering into a slanging match with you! I called you out, on your postings of slander and disinformation. Simple as that.đ¤ˇââď¸ Please rant and carry on and insult me more. Please display  more of your character, integrity and true colours. đ     |
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Post by mrdobalina on Apr 17, 2023 0:59:20 GMT -5
Are you capable of holding a rational and adult debate? Or do you simply resort to sarcasm, childish put downs, personal attacks and snarky comments as some kind of defence mechanism when someone does not entirely agree with your point of view? I won't be entering into a slanging match with you! I called you out, on your postings of slander and misinformation. Simple as that.đ¤ˇââď¸ Please rant and carry on and insult me more. Please display more of your character, integrity and true colours. đ But it wasn't slander or misinformation, regardless of wether that's what you call it or not in the hope that you may fool other viewers of this forum, it was simple fact, as I demonstrated to you. I'm not in a slanging match, ranting or insulting you, I'm simply pulling you up on your poor form. Accusing me of the exact behaviour you are displaying is called projection. |
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Post by fixit on Apr 17, 2023 1:11:07 GMT -5
Appreciate your valuable help and advice about the botched workers (who usurp power that no man should have) and the silly friends who, on the whole, seem to be deceived by them. How helpful and refreshing to have you posting here about all their errors and delusion. oh p.s. Glad of also the therapeutic benefit there for you to be able to unload on this forum about the whole silly bunch of them. They really 'get on your goat' don't they? You are trying to save them and show them their errors but they unfortunately seem rather unreceptive to it and to change according as you have told them they need to? What to do? Post a few more thousand posts, perhaps they'll then start to sit up and listen and see the error of their ways? Who knows, it's worth you trying anyway! Are you capable of holding a rational and adult debate? Or do you simply resort to sarcasm, childish put downs, personal attacks and snarky comments as some kind of defence mechanism when someone does not entirely agree with your point of view? I haven't found anything of value in internationalstudies posts on this thread. Are they intended to pollute the thread and distract those who want to find something useful here? |
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It is important that the correct number of posts that chuck has made is stated. I was exaggerating by about 1000.
