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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 21, 2020 18:18:55 GMT -5
So they said they were just on vacation ! So they can be seen in another country ? Zoom , Skype , messenger , FaceTime . Let the sheep have a break and not look to the friends for a holiday . Let the sheep have a vacation with their family . Jus sayin IMO
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 21, 2020 18:23:36 GMT -5
Wait those funds could be used for mental health illnesses caused by misdeeds of the TRUTH ! There we go !
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 21, 2020 19:21:27 GMT -5
(but I thought you just said "our reward is based on our works.")
My son and I were just discussing this very idea: Belief in Christ blots out sin," -about how wrong it is for someone else to die for our sins. He feels that they are OUR "sins" & it is totally wrong that someone else should have to die for them!
My position also and that it is a cop-out; -just a easy way for us to get rid of our mistakes & not have to bear the consequences of those mistakes. If a baby spills his milk and you clean it up, is it totally wrong that you had to clean-up the mess? Is it a cop-out for the baby not to bear the consequences for the mistake?
The consequences for our mistakes is death, Jesus simply paid the debt for our transgressions and he did it for the same reason you'd clean-up babies mess, because you love your kid.
We can't get rid of our own mistakes. Christians aren't judged in a condemning fashion, they are judged (rewarded) for their righteous works. "Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me" (Matthew 25:36).
..."a baby spills his milk and you clean it up,"
I didn't know we were talking about "babies!" I thought we were talking about adults! Is that how you feel about your relationship to Jesus?
I'm sorry but I can't except your analogy. That analogy itself is a cop-out.
As to your statement that "consequences for our mistakes is death," -is that why you believe that we die? Are you going clear back to the story of Genesis?
Also are you aware that long before Jesus came along that there are multiple earlier stories about gods who died as saviors for mankind and then were resurrected again? It is a common re-occurring story told through out the history of mankind.
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Post by chuck on Oct 21, 2020 22:50:35 GMT -5
Why not?. I'm pretty sure some other cultures will have similar reasons as the Hebrew people. Dynamic Progressive Revelation. Chuck, -Here is why I think that by your "concentrating only on the bible & not attempting to understand people in other religious cultures ," -it is that you are doing yourself a huge disfavor.
What you are missing is the much larger insight into the reasons behind why different religious cultures form different beliefs yet very often for the same reasons!
Thanks for you link:
Dynamic Progressive Revelation. Progressive revelation
Christianity
Progressive revelation is the doctrine in Christianity that the sections of the Bible that were written later contain a fuller revelation of God than the earlier sections. God didn't tell people His entire plan all at once. They wouldn't be able to handle it. "Progressive revelation does not mean to say that the Old Testament is somehow less true than the New Testament. The progress was not from untruth to truth - it was from less information to more full information." ~Don Stewart:: What Is Progressive Revelation?
But of course since Don Stewart is a Pentecostal minister and purported faith healer, -he is just another apologist and not even a very honest one at that. In fact he's fraud.
I believe I already said I conectrate on the bible because I was indoctrinated with it. I don't believe or have ever said it is more important than anything else, or other cultures beliefs are less important and their progression of conciousness. I didn't know I posted a link?. If Don Stewart thinks he can heal people, he and I have a very different understanding of the progressive dynamic revelation of God Even if his language is similar. My Idea of Faith healing is going to see the person that can actually heal you if you are healable. Not some hocus pocus. Jeremiah 22:16 [16]He judged the cause of the poor and needy; then it was well with him: was not this to know me? saith the LORD. This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters.If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth. - 1 John 3:16-18 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1John3:16-18&version=NIVThe person who can actually heal because he or she put the time and effort (sacrifice) into learning their profession and always expanding their knowledge(ten talents) so that he or she can help people because they want to. That is God to me. And I hope they get rich doing it. I highly doubt the miracles of healing in the scriptures are literally physical truth's. There will always be meaning behind it. I don't know what they are but I am not going to be dogmatic about something that seems physically impossible. If that's all it means I fear we have missed the point.
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Post by Dan on Oct 22, 2020 1:50:12 GMT -5
"Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me" (Matthew 25:36). [/div] [/quote] Welfare will take care of the first one, if you pay your taxes. Medical insurance would satisfy the second requirement. How many prisoners have you visited? Don't complain -- it's YOUR reward you're working on. [/quote]
Yes, in that sense its a government mandate that we pay for the needy, even the lazy. Problem is, I've never paid any income tax. Wasn't complaining, just explaining that rewards are based on good works. We always focus on what we're not suppose to do (commandments), but forget the good things we're inspired to do.
If a baby spills his milk and you clean it up, is it totally wrong that you had to clean-up the mess? Is it a cop-out for the baby not to bear the consequences for the mistake?
The consequences for our mistakes is death, Jesus simply paid the debt for our transgressions and he did it for the same reason you'd clean-up babies mess, because you love your kid.
We can't get rid of our own mistakes. Christians aren't judged in a condemning fashion, they are judged (rewarded) for their righteous works. "Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me" (Matthew 25:36).
..."a baby spills his milk and you clean it up,"
I didn't know we were talking about "babies!" I thought we were talking about adults! Is that how you feel about your relationship to Jesus?
I'm sorry but I can't except your analogy. That analogy itself is a cop-out.
As to your statement that "consequences for our mistakes is death," -is that why you believe that we die? Are you going clear back to the story of Genesis?
Also are you aware that long before Jesus came along that there are multiple earlier stories about gods who died as saviors for mankind and then were resurrected again? It is a common re-occurring story told through out the history of mankind.
Granted, my analogy was a bit lame, but we are just children to God. A loving Father would put everything on the line for his children, just as our heavenly Father did for us.
And yes, sin = death, so we are either alive in Christ or dead to sin.
I'm semi-familiar with those pagan stories, and imo none are very comparable to Christ, so I don't believe they have influenced the theology of Christianity.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 22, 2020 2:43:04 GMT -5
[/div] [/quote] Welfare will take care of the first one, if you pay your taxes. Medical insurance would satisfy the second requirement. How many prisoners have you visited? Don't complain -- it's YOUR reward you're working on. [/quote] Yes, in that sense its a government mandate that we pay for the needy, even the lazy. Problem is, I've never paid any income tax. Wasn't complaining, just explaining that rewards are based on good works. We always focus on what we're not suppose to do (commandments), but forget the good things we're inspired to do.
..."a baby spills his milk and you clean it up,"
I didn't know we were talking about "babies!" I thought we were talking about adults! Is that how you feel about your relationship to Jesus?
I'm sorry but I can't except your analogy. That analogy itself is a cop-out.
As to your statement that "consequences for our mistakes is death," -is that why you believe that we die? Are you going clear back to the story of Genesis?
Also are you aware that long before Jesus came along that there are multiple earlier stories about gods who died as saviors for mankind and then were resurrected again? It is a common re-occurring story told through out the history of mankind.
Granted, my analogy was a bit lame, but we are just children to God. A loving Father would put everything on the line for his children, just as our heavenly Father did for us. And yes, sin = death, so we are either alive in Christ or dead to sin.
I'm semi-familiar with those pagan stories, and imo none are very comparable to Christ, so I don't believe they have influenced the theology of Christianity.
[/quote] Wow! So, like Trump, You have never paid any income tax? No wonder you are blow the trumpet for Trump!
So, it is we who are paying for all the government services that you receive, like US mail delivery, -the roads & bridges that you travel on etc. ... and you complain about people who are "lazy" and get welfare?
Then it is also beginning to make sense why you believe that you have a "loving heavenly father" who also exonerates you of your mistakes. I guess, for you then, that your "baby" analogy might make sense after all.
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Post by chuck on Oct 22, 2020 6:47:30 GMT -5
[/div] [/quote] Welfare will take care of the first one, if you pay your taxes. Medical insurance would satisfy the second requirement. How many prisoners have you visited? Don't complain -- it's YOUR reward you're working on. [/quote] Yes, in that sense its a government mandate that we pay for the needy, even the lazy. Problem is, I've never paid any income tax. Wasn't complaining, just explaining that rewards are based on good works. We always focus on what we're not suppose to do (commandments), but forget the good things we're inspired to do.
..."a baby spills his milk and you clean it up,"
I didn't know we were talking about "babies!" I thought we were talking about adults! Is that how you feel about your relationship to Jesus?
I'm sorry but I can't except your analogy. That analogy itself is a cop-out.
As to your statement that "consequences for our mistakes is death," -is that why you believe that we die? Are you going clear back to the story of Genesis?
Also are you aware that long before Jesus came along that there are multiple earlier stories about gods who died as saviors for mankind and then were resurrected again? It is a common re-occurring story told through out the history of mankind.
Granted, my analogy was a bit lame, but we are just children to God. A loving Father would put everything on the line for his children, just as our heavenly Father did for us. And yes, sin = death, so we are either alive in Christ or dead to sin.
I'm semi-familiar with those pagan stories, and imo none are very comparable to Christ, so I don't believe they have influenced the theology of Christianity.
[/quote] Wow! So, like Trump, You have never paid any income tax? No wonder you are blow the trumpet for Trump!
So, it is we who are paying for all the government services that you receive, like US mail delivery, -the roads & bridges that you travel on etc. ... and you complain about people who are "lazy" and get welfare?
Then it is also beginning to make sense why you believe that you have a "loving heavenly father" who also exonerates you of your mistakes. I guess, for you then, that your "baby" analogy might make sense after all.
[/quote] youtu.be/0eB-xjDMGdQ
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Post by Dan on Oct 22, 2020 15:30:54 GMT -5
I actually did pay $279 in 1979, but that was due to an accounting error.. But as mentioned, I believe God has forgiven me for that mistake
Its not unusual for businesses not to pay income taxes, we simply re-invest any profits to avoid it. That's capitalism and the government inspires it.. Amazon, John Deere, Facebook, Trump, and Dan, rarely if ever pay income taxes. But we do pay a lot of payroll and unemployment taxes.
Consider that when Reagan took office, the tax rate on businesses was 70%, after he lowered it to 28%, tax revenues actually increased and the economy took off.. Democrats have never understood why capitalism works.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 22, 2020 18:57:39 GMT -5
Yes, in that sense its a government mandate that we pay for the needy, even the lazy. Problem is, I've never paid any income tax. And you consider yourself not a privileged individual. I pay thousands of dollars in income tax -- and I'd bet money that you make more a year than I do. How come YOU get exempt from the good citizen requirement of paying your taxes? Even Trump pays $750 a year, some years. No wonder you think he's great.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 22, 2020 22:31:27 GMT -5
I actually did pay $279 in 1979, but that was due to an accounting error.. But as mentioned, I believe God has forgiven me for that mistake
Its not unusual for businesses not to pay income taxes, we simply re-invest any profits to avoid it. That's capitalism and the government inspires it.. Amazon, John Deere, Facebook, Trump, and Dan, rarely if ever pay income taxes. But we do pay a lot of payroll and unemployment taxes.
Consider that when Reagan too office, the tax rate on businesses was 70%, after he lowered it to 28%, tax revenues actually increased and the economy took off.. Democrats have never understood why capitalism works.
Would it be fair to say that the payroll taxes are collected by you as a deduction from your employees pay and then paid to your IRS?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 22, 2020 22:42:03 GMT -5
youtu.be/0eB-xjDMGdQAh! Thanks for that. - very interesting!
Trump has said so many things about his taxes through the years, -often contradicting himself, -that it has been difficult to really get at the truth.
One thing I distinctly remember that Trump said this during his first presidential debate of 2016.
Was that "not paying federal taxes made him "smart."
So I guess we mere peons are just not "smart" who pay our share of taxes so that EVERYONE, -Trump , Dan and many others can enjoy safe roads, good schools for their children plus multiple other services that help everyone to survive & prosper.
Yet, in spite their lack of concern for what happens to others of their fellowmen/women/children, -they also claim at the same time to believe what Jesus said in Matthew 25:36.
"Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me."
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Post by Dan on Oct 23, 2020 2:06:13 GMT -5
Yes, in that sense its a government mandate that we pay for the needy, even the lazy. Problem is, I've never paid any income tax. And you consider yourself not a privileged individual. I pay thousands of dollars in income tax -- and I'd bet money that you make more a year than I do. How come YOU get exempt from the good citizen requirement of paying your taxes? Even Trump pays $750 a year, some years. No wonder you think he's great.
I get no preferential treatment, so no I'm not privileged, the same tax system treats everyone the same way. Sorry you pay so much, but starting a business and finding deductions might reduce your tax burden.
It makes you an enterprising young man, not a bad citizen. I actually did pay $279 in 1979, but that was due to an accounting error.. But as mentioned, I believe God has forgiven me for that mistake
Its not unusual for businesses not to pay income taxes, we simply re-invest any profits to avoid it. That's capitalism and the government inspires it.. Amazon, John Deere, Facebook, Trump, and Dan, rarely if ever pay income taxes. But we do pay a lot of payroll and unemployment taxes.
Consider that when Reagan too office, the tax rate on businesses was 70%, after he lowered it to 28%, tax revenues actually increased and the economy took off.. Democrats have never understood why capitalism works.
Would it be fair to say that the payroll taxes are collected by you as a deduction from your employees pay and then paid to your IRS?
Yes, but social security taxes deducted from employee's are matched by the employer. In other words, employers deduct 6.2%, but pay in 12.4%.. I use to pay an 8.5% unemployment tax too, so combined, that's a +15% tax burden that normal people don't pay.. So there's no free ride.
youtu.be/0eB-xjDMGdQAh! Thanks for that. - very interesting!
Trump has said so many things about his taxes through the years, -often contradicting himself, -that it has been difficult to really get at the truth.
One thing I distinctly remember that Trump said this during his first presidential debate of 2016.
Was that "not paying federal taxes made him "smart."
So I guess we mere peons are just not "smart" who pay our share of taxes so that EVERYONE, -Trump , Dan and many others can enjoy safe roads, good schools for their children plus multiple other services that help everyone to survive & prosper.
Yet, in spite their lack of concern for what happens to others of their fellowmen/women/children, -they also claim at the same time to believe what Jesus said in Matthew 25:36.
"Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me."
From a business perspective, not handing over income taxes to the government is smart, you always try to have your net profit for the year as near to zero as possible. Most road construction is paid by gasoline taxes & schools are funded by property taxes. Since I pay both, consider me a patriotic tax payer
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 23, 2020 17:39:35 GMT -5
From a business perspective, not handing over income taxes to the government is smart, you always try to have your net profit for the year as near to zero as possible. Surprise -- you're not at all keeping your net profit as close to zero as possible. You're keeping your "taxable income" as close to zero as possible. Smart is how the Trumps of the world control the flow of wealth into the bank accounts of the very rich. If the capitalist system works the way it's supposed to work, the successful businesses wouldn't be needing incentives from the government.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 23, 2020 20:08:33 GMT -5
Wow some hard hitters on this pro board ! Ya know who you are ! Just reading is eye 👁 opening .
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 23, 2020 22:04:22 GMT -5
youtu.be/0eB-xjDMGdQAh! Thanks for that. - very interesting!
Trump has said so many things about his taxes through the years, -often contradicting himself, -that it has been difficult to really get at the truth.
One thing I distinctly remember that Trump said this during his first presidential debate of 2016.
Was that "not paying federal taxes made him "smart."
So I guess we mere peons are just not "smart" who pay our share of taxes so that EVERYONE, -Trump , Dan and many others can enjoy safe roads, good schools for their children plus multiple other services that help everyone to survive & prosper.
Yet, in spite their lack of concern for what happens to others of their fellowmen/women/children, -they also claim at the same time to believe what Jesus said in Matthew 25:36.
"Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me." From a business perspective, not handing over income taxes to the government is smart, you always try to have your net profit for the year as near to zero as possible. Most road construction is paid by gasoline taxes & schools are funded by property taxes. Since I pay both, consider me a patriotic tax payer I wasn't talking about a "business perspective," -I was talking about a "moral perspective." "Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me."
If one can't personally do as Jesus said, by helping "cloth" others , & "visiting" people who are sick or in prison" -surly they realize that by paying their income tax it does provide some of the help that they can't personally provide.
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Post by Dan on Oct 23, 2020 22:50:39 GMT -5
From a business perspective, not handing over income taxes to the government is smart, you always try to have your net profit for the year as near to zero as possible. Surprise -- you're not at all keeping your net profit as close to zero as possible. You're keeping your "taxable income" as close to zero as possible. Smart is how the Trumps of the world control the flow of wealth into the bank accounts of the very rich. If the capitalist system works the way it's supposed to work, the successful businesses wouldn't be needing incentives from the government.
Bottom line is that the government prefers that businesses re-invest their money instead of keeping it and paying income tax.
Imagine a guy running a carpet cleaning service. He has 2 vans running everyday with 2 employees cleaning carpets. At years end, he has a $40k profit. He can either keep the profit and pay taxes on it, or he can invest it in a third van and hire another employee to expand his business. The government prefers the latter, because instead of paying a one time tax on the $40k profit, the new employee will pay income taxes on his $40k salary year after year. A growing business functions as a conduit for tax revenues, and when growth stops, stagnation begins.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 24, 2020 1:00:13 GMT -5
Surprise -- you're not at all keeping your net profit as close to zero as possible. You're keeping your "taxable income" as close to zero as possible. Smart is how the Trumps of the world control the flow of wealth into the bank accounts of the very rich. If the capitalist system works the way it's supposed to work, the successful businesses wouldn't be needing incentives from the government. Bottom line is that the government prefers that businesses re-invest their money instead of keeping it and paying income tax.
OF course they do. What is supposed to be the "government of the people by the people for the people has decided that the bigger the business the more money they should get to keep for themselves. They scrupulously never got around to enforcing the re-invest their money part in law. And the part about "for the people" is the group who pay the HIGHEST RATE OF INCOME TAX IN THE COUNTRY. Do you have any idea who freaking poor one has to be in this country to get off with paying only $750.00?
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 24, 2020 1:02:03 GMT -5
From a business perspective, not handing over income taxes to the government is smart, you always try to have your net profit for the year as near to zero as possible. Most road construction is paid by gasoline taxes & schools are funded by property taxes. Since I pay both, consider me a patriotic tax payer I wasn't talking about a "business perspective," -I was talking about a "moral perspective." "Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me."
If one can't personally do as Jesus said, by helping "cloth" others , & "visiting" people who are sick or in prison" -surly they realize that by paying their income tax it does provide some of the help that they can't personally provide.
This is really the government "of the people, by the oligarchy, for predatory capitalists".
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Post by Grant on Oct 24, 2020 2:30:44 GMT -5
Surprise -- you're not at all keeping your net profit as close to zero as possible. You're keeping your "taxable income" as close to zero as possible. Smart is how the Trumps of the world control the flow of wealth into the bank accounts of the very rich. If the capitalist system works the way it's supposed to work, the successful businesses wouldn't be needing incentives from the government. Bottom line is that the government prefers that businesses re-invest their money instead of keeping it and paying income tax.
Imagine a guy running a carpet cleaning service. He has 2 vans running everyday with 2 employees cleaning carpets. At years end, he has a $40k profit. He can either keep the profit and pay taxes on it, or he can invest it in a third van and hire another employee to expand his business. The government prefers the latter, because instead of paying a one time tax on the $40k profit, the new employee will pay income taxes on his $40k salary year after year. A growing business functions as a conduit for tax revenues, and when growth stops, stagnation begins.
Don't you take any wages out of the business to live on? Living expenses would be taxable. Rent or mortgage, clothes, food and so on.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 24, 2020 8:37:05 GMT -5
Chuck, -Here is why I think that by your "concentrating only on the bible & not attempting to understand people in other religious cultures ," -it is that you are doing yourself a huge disfavor.
What you are missing is the much larger insight into the reasons behind why different religious cultures form different beliefs yet very often for the same reasons!
Thanks for you link:
Dynamic Progressive Revelation. Progressive revelation
Christianity
Progressive revelation is the doctrine in Christianity that the sections of the Bible that were written later contain a fuller revelation of God than the earlier sections. God didn't tell people His entire plan all at once. They wouldn't be able to handle it. "Progressive revelation does not mean to say that the Old Testament is somehow less true than the New Testament. The progress was not from untruth to truth - it was from less information to more full information." ~Don Stewart:: What Is Progressive Revelation?
But of course since Don Stewart is a Pentecostal minister and purported faith healer, -he is just another apologist and not even a very honest one at that. In fact he's fraud.
I believe I already said I conectrate on the bible because I was indoctrinated with it. I don't believe or have ever said it is more important than anything else, or other cultures beliefs are less important and their progression of conciousness. I didn't know I posted a link?. If Don Stewart thinks he can heal people, he and I have a very different understanding of the progressive dynamic revelation of God Even if his language is similar. My Idea of Faith healing is going to see the person that can actually heal you if you are healable. Not some hocus pocus. Jeremiah 22:16 [16]He judged the cause of the poor and needy; then it was well with him: was not this to know me? saith the LORD. This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters.If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth. - 1 John 3:16-18 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1John3:16-18&version=NIVThe person who can actually heal because he or she put the time and effort (sacrifice) into learning their profession and always expanding their knowledge(ten talents) so that he or she can help people because they want to. That is God to me. And I hope they get rich doing it. I highly doubt the miracles of healing in the scriptures are literally physical truth's. There will always be meaning behind it. I don't know what they are but I am not going to be dogmatic about something that seems physically impossible. If that's all it means I fear we have missed the point. You didn't "post a link to" Dynamic Progressive Revelation as such , -however you did use the term "Dynamic Progressive Revelation" in your post.Progressive revelation
Christianity
Progressive revelation is the doctrine in Christianity that the sections of the Bible that were written later contain a fuller revelation of God than the earlier sections. God didn't tell people His entire plan all at once. They wouldn't be able to handle it. "Progressive revelation does not mean to say that the Old Testament is somehow less true than the New Testament. The progress was not from untruth to truth - it was from less information to more full information." ~Don Stewart:: What Is Progressive Revelation?Isn't that idea the same as your have been claiming?
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Post by Dan on Oct 24, 2020 20:46:20 GMT -5
Bottom line is that the government prefers that businesses re-invest their money instead of keeping it and paying income tax.
Imagine a guy running a carpet cleaning service. He has 2 vans running everyday with 2 employees cleaning carpets. At years end, he has a $40k profit. He can either keep the profit and pay taxes on it, or he can invest it in a third van and hire another employee to expand his business. The government prefers the latter, because instead of paying a one time tax on the $40k profit, the new employee will pay income taxes on his $40k salary year after year. A growing business functions as a conduit for tax revenues, and when growth stops, stagnation begins.
Don't you take any wages out of the business to live on? Living expenses would be taxable. Rent or mortgage, clothes, food and so on.
No wages.. After exemptions and deductions, no taxes are usually due. I deducted for a repair shop in my home, also an office, cloths are uniforms, vacations are business trips, etc.
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Post by Grant on Oct 24, 2020 21:35:07 GMT -5
Don't you take any wages out of the business to live on? Living expenses would be taxable. Rent or mortgage, clothes, food and so on. No wages.. After exemptions and deductions, no taxes are usually due. I deducted for a repair shop in my home, also an office, cloths are uniforms, vacations are business trips, etc. And household food? Private use of motor vehicle? % of private use of home?
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 24, 2020 22:04:29 GMT -5
Don't you take any wages out of the business to live on? Living expenses would be taxable. Rent or mortgage, clothes, food and so on. No wages.. After exemptions and deductions, no taxes are usually due. I deducted for a repair shop in my home, also an office, cloths are uniforms, vacations are business trips, etc. Sounds like Trump.
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Post by Dan on Oct 24, 2020 22:22:43 GMT -5
No wages.. After exemptions and deductions, no taxes are usually due. I deducted for a repair shop in my home, also an office, cloths are uniforms, vacations are business trips, etc. And household food? Private use of motor vehicle? % of private use of home?
Sure, there were personal expenses like food and all, but the $12,200 exemption covered those expenses of about $9,460, making my taxable income -0-
On a much smaller scale, yes.... Next year will be another story since I sold my business in August, that income and capital gains might actually force me to write the IRS a check? That's going to sting.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 24, 2020 22:27:10 GMT -5
And household food? Private use of motor vehicle? % of private use of home? Sure, there were personal expenses like food and all, but the $12,200 exemption covered those expenses of about $9,460, making my taxable income -0-
On a much smaller scale, yes.... Next year will be another story since I sold my business in August, that income and capital gains might actually force me to write the IRS a check? That's going to sting. Join the common people.
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Post by chuck on Oct 25, 2020 4:38:54 GMT -5
Don't you take any wages out of the business to live on? Living expenses would be taxable. Rent or mortgage, clothes, food and so on.
No wages.. After exemptions and deductions, no taxes are usually due. I deducted for a repair shop in my home, also an office, cloths are uniforms, vacations are business trips, etc. And this is why you shouldn't boast your a Christian. Dude your a dishonest chump if your claiming your personal vacations as a business trip.
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Post by chuck on Oct 25, 2020 5:06:33 GMT -5
I believe I already said I conectrate on the bible because I was indoctrinated with it. I don't believe or have ever said it is more important than anything else, or other cultures beliefs are less important and their progression of conciousness. I didn't know I posted a link?. If Don Stewart thinks he can heal people, he and I have a very different understanding of the progressive dynamic revelation of God Even if his language is similar. My Idea of Faith healing is going to see the person that can actually heal you if you are healable. Not some hocus pocus. Jeremiah 22:16 [16]He judged the cause of the poor and needy; then it was well with him: was not this to know me? saith the LORD. This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters.If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth. - 1 John 3:16-18 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1John3:16-18&version=NIVThe person who can actually heal because he or she put the time and effort (sacrifice) into learning their profession and always expanding their knowledge(ten talents) so that he or she can help people because they want to. That is God to me. And I hope they get rich doing it. I highly doubt the miracles of healing in the scriptures are literally physical truth's. There will always be meaning behind it. I don't know what they are but I am not going to be dogmatic about something that seems physically impossible. If that's all it means I fear we have missed the point. You didn't "post a link to" Dynamic Progressive Revelation as such , -however you did use the term "Dynamic Progressive Revelation" in your post.Progressive revelation
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Progressive revelation is the doctrine in Christianity that the sections of the Bible that were written later contain a fuller revelation of God than the earlier sections. God didn't tell people His entire plan all at once. They wouldn't be able to handle it. "Progressive revelation does not mean to say that the Old Testament is somehow less true than the New Testament. The progress was not from untruth to truth - it was from less information to more full information." ~Don Stewart:: What Is Progressive Revelation?Isn't that idea the same as your have been claiming?Yes I used that term. I partially agree with some of the terminology but that's about it. As soon as I hear "plan" its like uh oh. To me the word "plan" is just a way out. Pretty easy to dismiss a heap of horrible things with that language. "Oh that was just part of God's plan". What a cop out. To suggest some dude somewhere else that we have no idea were, has a plan is silly. The progressive dynamic revelation does not reveal this. It reveals a divine nature that if lived out in your life, will always bring the best outcomes regardless what hand in life you are dealt.
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Post by Dan on Oct 25, 2020 11:31:59 GMT -5
No wages.. After exemptions and deductions, no taxes are usually due. I deducted for a repair shop in my home, also an office, cloths are uniforms, vacations are business trips, etc. And this is why you shouldn't boast your a Christian. Dude your a dishonest chump if your claiming your personal vacations as a business trip.
A trip can be both business and pleasure. Just attending a seminar , an exposition, or an event involving further education in your field can be a write-off. If you wanted to expand your business into Florida and took a trip down there to explore the real estate cost of a new location, its perfectly legal and honest to deduct the expense of the trip. You'd be a chump not to do that. If you have a problem with it being a legal deduction, then your problem is with the tax system, not the people who are allowed these legal deductions. And I don't boast of being Christian, its just a point of fact. Also, I've been audited twice with no problems, so apparently the IRS didn't find the cost of any trips we deducted to be dishonest.
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