Post by joanna on Jul 24, 2020 20:40:24 GMT -5
Pragmatic.
There is a contrasting view to your opinion of hunters and hunting Pragmatic and multiple research papers evidence there is a higher rate of domestic and child abuse committed by those who hunt other animals.
Indigenous persons who relied on fishing and hunting for subsistence contrast to individuals who choose to kill healthy animals when compassionate food choices are readily available and recommended on environmental, health and ethical grounds.
It is disingenuous to use a concern for the environment as a reason for hunting and to fail to act on more urgent environmental issues including the land clearing for animal agriculture, use of plastics etc
Research Is recreational hunting an effective form of control? evidences that hunting animals is not an effective method of population reduction.
The methods used by hunters are labour intensive, expensive and not effective in reducing populations of pest animals over large areas for the long term.
The results of these comparisons concur with a growing number of regional studies that find no consistent evidence that sport hunting is functioning as an effective management tool. It may, in fact, be having the opposite results [15, 21, 39]. It is becoming evident that under the guidelines of adaptive management, in the absence of evidence of its efficacy, state agencies should refrain from prescribing sport hunting as a management tool. The Elephant in the room: what we can learn....
This conclusion has been replicated by other studies into the efficacy of hunting to control introduced species.
Control strategies must be ethical and effective and hunting as been proven to fail in both these standards.
Scientific measures using non-lethal controls including immuno-contraception and other methods consistent with evolved societal ethical standards are possible. The obstacle to these being applied is the human species' lack of respect for the experiences and suffering of other sentient beings.
fixit
The article mentions the desire to inflict pain, which I think is way off the mark.
The hunters I know try to minimise the suffering of their prey.
Research contradicts your claims.
Hunting inflicts suffering.
... Death due to blood loss is never instantaneous and the rate of hemorrhaging determines the time from bullet impact to permanent incapacitation. Therefore, animal flight distance conveys information about elapsed time and can be used as a practical indicator for killing efficiency of hunting bullets and cartridges (Stokke et al. 2012;McCann et al. 2016;Kanstrup et al. 2016b;Martin et al. 2017;Stokke et al. 2018). ..
Would you do this to your dog?
Humans rely on false data, including faith-based beliefs, to promote the dichotomy between humans and other animals.
If only we could accept that we are not a special creation but as members of a primate species, we do not have a monopoly over feeling pain, fear, grief and empathising with others.
Empathy is the key.
The manner in which we treat those who cannot self-advocate impacts all of society.
Absolutely. Hunting is not about the kill, unless it’s for some self obsessed trophy hunter shooting captive animals, which I abhor. It’s about the connection of life sustenance to the land which gave it. Indigenous people understand this connection, and it’s not only hunting, but also gathering, fishing, and planting.
As a hunter, do I love the healthy crack and the smell of cordite? Of course. Do I like the kill? No, but it is part of primal man and our instinct to survive.
As for 1080, I know it’s horrible, but in our country, there isn’t a better and more humane alternative yet. And that is why DOC use it.
It is irrelevant that hunters brought silver rabbits, tahr, deer, longhorn sheep, pigs here for hunting. The issue is the situation we have now, and what do with it, and how to best preserve our Takahe, Kokako, Kiwi, Flora and other Fauna.
When I go and dive and bring back Paua, Crayfish and Kina, it give me a great feeling of satisfaction and spiritual connection to the sea, that getting it from the Supermarket will never do. And giving it to those around me also.
If you spend time in the bush with Aboriginals or our Maori, or hunt with the Tongans, only then will you understand.
Any person that kills because he just likes killing probably has a psychopathic streak.
As a hunter, do I love the healthy crack and the smell of cordite? Of course. Do I like the kill? No, but it is part of primal man and our instinct to survive.
As for 1080, I know it’s horrible, but in our country, there isn’t a better and more humane alternative yet. And that is why DOC use it.
It is irrelevant that hunters brought silver rabbits, tahr, deer, longhorn sheep, pigs here for hunting. The issue is the situation we have now, and what do with it, and how to best preserve our Takahe, Kokako, Kiwi, Flora and other Fauna.
When I go and dive and bring back Paua, Crayfish and Kina, it give me a great feeling of satisfaction and spiritual connection to the sea, that getting it from the Supermarket will never do. And giving it to those around me also.
If you spend time in the bush with Aboriginals or our Maori, or hunt with the Tongans, only then will you understand.
Any person that kills because he just likes killing probably has a psychopathic streak.
There is a contrasting view to your opinion of hunters and hunting Pragmatic and multiple research papers evidence there is a higher rate of domestic and child abuse committed by those who hunt other animals.
Indigenous persons who relied on fishing and hunting for subsistence contrast to individuals who choose to kill healthy animals when compassionate food choices are readily available and recommended on environmental, health and ethical grounds.
It is disingenuous to use a concern for the environment as a reason for hunting and to fail to act on more urgent environmental issues including the land clearing for animal agriculture, use of plastics etc
Research Is recreational hunting an effective form of control? evidences that hunting animals is not an effective method of population reduction.
The methods used by hunters are labour intensive, expensive and not effective in reducing populations of pest animals over large areas for the long term.
The results of these comparisons concur with a growing number of regional studies that find no consistent evidence that sport hunting is functioning as an effective management tool. It may, in fact, be having the opposite results [15, 21, 39]. It is becoming evident that under the guidelines of adaptive management, in the absence of evidence of its efficacy, state agencies should refrain from prescribing sport hunting as a management tool. The Elephant in the room: what we can learn....
This conclusion has been replicated by other studies into the efficacy of hunting to control introduced species.
Control strategies must be ethical and effective and hunting as been proven to fail in both these standards.
Scientific measures using non-lethal controls including immuno-contraception and other methods consistent with evolved societal ethical standards are possible. The obstacle to these being applied is the human species' lack of respect for the experiences and suffering of other sentient beings.
fixit
The article mentions the desire to inflict pain, which I think is way off the mark.
The hunters I know try to minimise the suffering of their prey.
Research contradicts your claims.
Hunting inflicts suffering.
... Death due to blood loss is never instantaneous and the rate of hemorrhaging determines the time from bullet impact to permanent incapacitation. Therefore, animal flight distance conveys information about elapsed time and can be used as a practical indicator for killing efficiency of hunting bullets and cartridges (Stokke et al. 2012;McCann et al. 2016;Kanstrup et al. 2016b;Martin et al. 2017;Stokke et al. 2018). ..
Would you do this to your dog?
Humans rely on false data, including faith-based beliefs, to promote the dichotomy between humans and other animals.
If only we could accept that we are not a special creation but as members of a primate species, we do not have a monopoly over feeling pain, fear, grief and empathising with others.
Empathy is the key.
The manner in which we treat those who cannot self-advocate impacts all of society.