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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 19:25:42 GMT -5
from what i remember if correct review did not support the alien theory but when nathan stuck to scripture they would tend to agree...IMO he did the same to me, he didn't agree with firearms in meetings but if i stuck to scripture he would agree or like the post.... Did Review just use Nathan as part of his anti-fixit agenda? well hes in your bailiwick you ask him....
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 16, 2020 20:58:19 GMT -5
Did Review just use Nathan as part of his anti-fixit agenda? ** No, I told review a little bit about you and there was no anti- FIXIT agenda between us. What do you know about fixit nathan ? Do you know him personally ? Have you ever met him ?
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Post by nathan on Jul 17, 2020 0:12:52 GMT -5
** No, I told review a little bit about you and there was no anti- FIXIT agenda between us. So you squealed to the workers on fixit, too? That makes you a stool pigeon. I don't squeal, I just told review what I know about fixit... Review, already knew these things he found the truth about fixit, for himself and posted on TMB what he thought of fixit. Review, had been observing fixit for many years and from reading his posts on here.... openingact collected/copied what Review wrote for years on fixit and posted on TMB for all to read awhile back.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 17, 2020 0:16:02 GMT -5
So you squealed to the workers on fixit, too? That makes you a stool pigeon. I don't squeal, I just told review what I know about fixit... Review, already knew these things he found the truth about fixit, for himself and posted on TMB what he thought of fixit. Review, had been observing fixit for many years and from reading his posts on here.... openingact collected/copied what Review wrote for years on fixit and posted on TMB for all to read awhile back.
You and JW are well suited to each other.
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Post by Dan on Jul 17, 2020 0:49:37 GMT -5
Just on a side note, a Jewish Rabbi once told me that the word "jealous" or "zealous" is better translated as "impassioned".
What does your Rabbi friend say about Jesus is God theory?
He doesn't believe that of course.. He believes Jesus was a Prophet and nothing more.
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Post by nathan on Jul 17, 2020 0:57:24 GMT -5
I don't squeal, I just told review what I know about fixit... Review, already knew these things he found the truth about fixit, for himself and posted on TMB what he thought of fixit. Review, had been observing fixit for many years and from reading his posts on here.... openingact collected/copied what Review wrote for years on fixit and posted on TMB for all to read awhile back.
You and JW are well suited to each other. Sorry, I dislike JW doctrines with all my heart, you have to try it again.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 17, 2020 0:57:53 GMT -5
So you squealed to the workers on fixit, too? That makes you a stool pigeon. I don't squeal, I just told review what I know about fixit... Review, already knew these things he found the truth about fixit, for himself and posted on TMB what he thought of fixit. Review, had been observing fixit for many years and from reading his posts on here.... openingact collected/copied what Review wrote for years on fixit and posted on TMB for all to read awhile back.
Right. You do it in a nice calming voice instead.
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Post by nathan on Jul 17, 2020 1:01:15 GMT -5
I don't squeal, I just told review what I know about fixit... Review, already knew these things he found the truth about fixit, for himself and posted on TMB what he thought of fixit. Review, had been observing fixit for many years and from reading his posts on here.... openingact collected/copied what Review wrote for years on fixit and posted on TMB for all to read awhile back.
Right. You do it in a nice calming voice instead. Yes, I try as much quite as I can.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 17, 2020 1:07:26 GMT -5
Right. You do it in a nice calming voice instead. Yes, I try as much quite as I can.It's still called squealing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 1:08:40 GMT -5
So you squealed to the workers on fixit, too? That makes you a stool pigeon. I don't squeal, I just told review what I know about fixit... Review, already knew these things he found the truth about fixit, for himself and posted on TMB what he thought of fixit. Review, had been observing fixit for many years and from reading his posts on here.... openingact collected/copied what Review wrote for years on fixit and posted on TMB for all to read awhile back.
If you lived in this country, you would of heard more negative things about worker Review ( sadly) than you would hear about Fixit. I have never heard any negativity re Fixit in my country ( believe me, N.Z. Is considerably smaller than USA). I lived in the same city,(cities are considerable smaller here than USA), my family and his wife’s family were friends for years, we have mutual friends today ...I’m sure I would of heard something... not that I’m the slightest bit interested in ‘seeking out’ gossip of the friendless, I left that behind years ago! But Nathan you are not interested in ‘truth’, you uphold & accept fabrication because it suits you to. That’s sad. (Worthy of mention: Brad had been observing you for a while too by the sounds of it and it wasnt pretty was it?)
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Post by nathan on Jul 17, 2020 1:09:30 GMT -5
Yes, I try as much quite as I can. It's still called squealing. Call whatever you want... Truth is truth... and the readers can see it for themselves.
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Post by Grant on Jul 17, 2020 1:51:59 GMT -5
You and JW are well suited to each other. Sorry, I dislike JW doctrines with all my heart, you have to try it again.JW meaning review. I thought you said you knew and have talked to him. How can you dislike a worker's doctrine with all your heart yet still belong to the same church?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 17, 2020 2:16:41 GMT -5
So you squealed to the workers on fixit, too? That makes you a stool pigeon. I don't squeal, I just told review what I know about fixit... Review, already knew these things he found the truth about fixit, for himself and posted on TMB what he thought of fixit. Review, had been observing fixit for many years and from reading his posts on here.... openingact collected/copied what Review wrote for years on fixit and posted on TMB for all to read awhile back.
Oh so you are a "tittle tat" then nathan ? I am sure we can all make up our own minds about who we believe, nathan ...!
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Post by chuck on Jul 17, 2020 2:41:52 GMT -5
You address only part. You take a snippet of what I say and take it out of context. I said my belief isnt based in the supernatural. So if the birth/resurection of Christ is proven to be a story or have some other explanation it does not faze me or my belief in Christ because that is what Christianity should be about, living out the Character of Christ, the divine nature of God.
Nothing supernatural about that at all, not man made religion either. I believe most of my posts have ? in them. hey are never answered, its a trend around here. Do I have to put you in the back line with Speak, Nathan and wally for great side steps? 😁 No, - I don't just take a snippet of what I say and take it out of context. I read everything that you say and have done from the very beginning of your posts on the subject.
I think that I understand that you want to keep your belief in Jesus but as the only one that anyone can follow as to how to live one's life, -but why just Jesus? There are many people throughout the history of mankind that has advocated the same! To a degree that is true in what Jesus said as to treating others as one would want to be treated is an axiom one would do well to follow.
However, that so called "golden rule" was around long before Jesus's day.
The idea dates at least to the early Confucian times (551–479 BC), according to Rushworth Kidder, who identifies that this concept appears prominently in Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, Taoism, Zoroastrianism, and "the rest of the world's major religions".
143 leaders of the world's major faiths endorsed the Golden Rule as part of the 1993 "Declaration Toward a Global Ethic". According to Greg M. Epstein, it is "a concept that essentially no religion misses entirely", but belief in God is not necessary to endorse it. Simon Blackburn also states that the Golden Rule can be "found in some form in almost every ethical tradition"\ from wiki
The stance that you seem to have taken in is one that many Christians have taken when they are finally confronted with the fact that what is claimed as to miracles etc. and other supernatural incidents in Jesus life would have been totally impossible.
However in the time when it was written such ideas as resurrections of the dead (or virgin births either for that matter) were not that unusual and had been believed by many cultures throughout the history of mankind. It was just the way people thought at that time throughout the world. But As thoughtful people of our day began to realize that part of their belief was impossible there was a crisis that Christians had to resolve.
You can see their struggle in many of their statements.
But your comments such as "living out the Character of Christ, the divine nature of God." is STILL putting your belief in a "religious context" -in spite of your continual denial that it has anything to do with "religion!"
There were many others who advocated living the same kind of life as Jesus, so my question to you has always been is why do you confine your believe only in him? I disagree, you take what I say and put it into your context of what God is and how it was sold to you that you now do not believe. When you say follow Jesus this thinking is based in 2x2ism and religion, like I explained above you argue from this position, even when you don't believe it you argue your disbelief from that base. Where you a 2x2 once?. Can you show me a progressive dynamic revelation of the "golden rule" out side of the Hebrew people that has had as big of effect in shaping the world for the better as we know it today?. The Hebrew people are responsible for a lot of this original thought that has made the world better. And this was well before your 551bc. Let's say you are right and the supernatural events are not true literally. What do you think that would mean to me?. Living out the Character of Christ the divine nature of God is religous to you by way of my first point. I say its not religous of all because of the progressive dynamic revelation of the Hebrew people in their understanding of God. Until you can see this it will always be religion to you. Living out the Character of Christ requires what in a religious context?.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 17, 2020 3:13:12 GMT -5
It's still called squealing. Call whatever you want... Truth is truth... and the readers can see it for themselves.You are the most unlikely person to be speaking about truth. Can you lie straight in bed at night?
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Post by chuck on Jul 17, 2020 3:55:06 GMT -5
Call whatever you want... Truth is truth... and the readers can see it for themselves. You are the most unlikely person to be speaking about truth. Can you lie straight in bed at night? I shouldn't but.... Probably not. If he's preparing for Venus it will get quite crowded with every tribe tongue and race turning up to live underground as well.
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Post by nathan on Jul 17, 2020 8:41:11 GMT -5
Sorry, I dislike JW doctrines with all my heart, you have to try it again. JW meaning review. I thought you said you knew and have talked to him. How can you dislike a worker's doctrine with all your heart yet still belong to the same church? haha.. I thought you guys meant Jehovah Witnesses! Next time write Review because most readers KNOW him by that name not JW. Review is NOT Jehovah Witness. I hardly dislike the workers teachings and doctrines, why do you I become a 2x2 if I dislike or disagree with MOST or ALL of their teachings. I just disagree with very few doctrines and interpretations that is all, the REST of what they and the early workers teach are A+. Sorry, for the confusion.. WRITE Review not JW to save the confusion.
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Post by nathan on Jul 17, 2020 8:44:28 GMT -5
You are the most unlikely person to be speaking about truth. Can you lie straight in bed at night? I shouldn't but.... Probably not. If he's preparing for Venus it will get quite crowded with every tribe tongue and race turning up to live underground as well. NOT crowded because the Old and Testament believers exist in heaven/Venus as souls/spirits NOT in physical bodies! Once Jesus returns to RULE and REIGN on the earth they will receive NEW resurrection bodies on earth, it can appear and disappear at will like the ONE Jesus has right now.
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