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Post by howitis on Nov 14, 2017 1:09:01 GMT -5
Perhaps the father never wanted his son to destroy their lives....Perhaps that was the guys problem, maybe he never had guidance and love as a child....what if his father never wanted him....how would that feel? Would it make one just a little bit angry? True Yet his father was hiding his sons problems at the same Time Report said that his father reported a theft of laptop and Other, and when they asked about his story, father said “He was in an accident and couldn’t deal with a visit” If that makes any sense?? Makes perfect sense some parents hate to think their children might have a problem it's often hard to admit there's a problem close to home....and how sad if these parents can now just get on with their lives.....without a thought for those that are suffering and did suffer even their son and how sad too if they can't.get on with their lives I mean, not the bit about not thinking of orhers...like how can you equate any of it with "right" |
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 14, 2017 1:49:30 GMT -5
God promised to is not a definition of iniquity, which was my question. God promised to do what? He promised a lot of things and I haven't seen any evidence of him fulfilling any one of those promises yet. That is why patience is considered so essential a virtue, If someone told you you would be guaranteed A trust fund of $100 million , if you would only Learn how to be patient, would you skofff because you know Patience is unattainable to you , or would you find out if There may be a way to verify and prove if these promises Are worth considering. I would check it out and see, but then until that time actually Came I would be cautious I do understand caution, but please give other people the Curtesy they deserve? Thanks
Your original post said; "But thankfully God promised not to send a flood , Yet the world will one day be purged of all iniquity.
In a later post you just stated "god promised"
NOW you are seem to be saying "patience" is a "virtue" and therefore we should be patient for this god to fulfill his promise.
Am I correct?
If so just how long should people have to wait?
This god in which you believe has been around for a very long time and as Snow said, "He promised a lot of things and I haven't seen any evidence of him fulfilling any one of those promises yet." I second her statement.
Also, Just what Curtesy(Courtesy) do you seem to feel you were denied? |
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 14, 2017 1:57:45 GMT -5
Btw, please explain what compassion you show toBelievers , Shall I remind you of your laughter, as you mock and Belittle believers, people that you accuse of being Mean spirited ? And when you mock God, is that Not unbecoming, since you wouldn’t mock the devil would you. |
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 3:36:41 GMT -5
Btw, please explain what compassion you show toBelievers , Shall I remind you of your laughter, as you mock and Belittle believers, people that you accuse of being Mean spirited ? And when you mock God, is that Not unbecoming, since you wouldn’t mock the devil would you. How can you defend foulish propagandizers like : Dawkins. Harris, ( Hitchens) , and a host of other Anti-theists? They are trash talkers and seem to Think they are witty. And you refuse to condemn their Nonsense, it’s disgusting 👎 |
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 14, 2017 3:54:30 GMT -5
Come on! Foul! Snow is none of the things you called her! How can you defend foulish propagandizers like : Dawkins. Harris, ( Hitchens) , and a host of other Anti-theists? They are trash talkers and seem to Think they are witty. And you refuse to condemn their Nonsense, it’s disgusting 👎 But of course the Bible that has been translated more times than we can count is 100% accurate !!!  |
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 4:58:24 GMT -5
How can you defend foulish propagandizers like : Dawkins. Harris, ( Hitchens) , and a host of other Anti-theists? They are trash talkers and seem to Think they are witty. And you refuse to condemn their Nonsense, it’s disgusting 👎 But of course the Bible that has been translated more times than we can count is 100% accurate !!! Well this discussion is concerning the lives of “Militant atheists” , (anti-theists) Will gladly respond to your analysis on the appropriate Discussion? Fair? Thank you |
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Post by rational on Nov 14, 2017 11:57:38 GMT -5
If this was photoshopped, would we know ? The originals are available. I have no agenda. It is a known fact that related to the discussion. Whatever the case, genocide is generally not considered the moral solution. What facts have been distorted? The British had supplied the natives with goods that were known to be infected with smallpox. The leader said it was a good thing. In writing. He suggested "to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Execrable Race." He also suggested hunting them down using dogs. Where do you see the distortion? |
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Post by rational on Nov 14, 2017 12:02:57 GMT -5
Does 50 million make it better? Or 20 million? it matters if your trying to compare it to hitler.... Who is comparing it to anything? I was just pointing out the possibility that while many were killed by disease sometimes those diseases were deliberately passed to the natives. |
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 12:10:58 GMT -5
If this was photoshopped, would we know ? The originals are available. I have no agenda. It is a known fact that related to the discussion. Whatever the case, genocide is generally not considered the moral solution. What facts have been distorted? The British had supplied the natives with goods that were known to be infected with smallpox. The leader said it was a good thing. In writing. He suggested "to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Execrable Race." He also suggested hunting them down using dogs. Where do you see the distortion? It does appear to be a shocking situation What time frame was this occurring? Was this an act of warfare? |
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 12:12:10 GMT -5
Reminds me of Vietnam , weird warfare
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 12:19:48 GMT -5
it matters if your trying to compare it to hitler.... Who is comparing it to anything? I was just pointing out the possibility that while many were killed by disease sometimes those diseases were deliberately passed to the natives. But the implication that this was a religious war ( jihad) And that is not the case,. If you wish to state or make this a discussion, please Do, otherwise I will conclude you want this to be Included In this discussion of (anti-theism) ? Fair? Thanks! |
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 12:24:25 GMT -5
Anti-theists did not subscribe to the native beliefs: (religion)
So they would be just as ormore guilty than all the Christians
That would likely had been drafted as conscientious objectors of
Killing
.✌️ Peace?
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 12:33:47 GMT -5
If you evaluate the moral compass of America (aprox )
Much fighting going on during the “eve of the roaring twenties”
Which in all respect , was brought about by
People lacking spiritual morals.
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Post by rational on Nov 14, 2017 14:04:41 GMT -5
It does appear to be a shocking situation What time frame was this occurring? Was this an act of warfare? You said it was distorted. What was distorted? |
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Post by rational on Nov 14, 2017 14:05:59 GMT -5
Reminds me of Vietnam , weird warfare You said the report was distorted. What distortion? |
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Post by rational on Nov 14, 2017 14:09:08 GMT -5
If you evaluate the moral compass of America (aprox ) Much fighting going on during the “eve of the roaring twenties” Which in all respect , was brought about by People lacking spiritual morals. The issue that you said was distorted was regarding the treatment of the native americans by christians in the mid 1700s. How was it distorted? |
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Post by rational on Nov 14, 2017 14:19:15 GMT -5
Who is comparing it to anything? I was just pointing out the possibility that while many were killed by disease sometimes those diseases were deliberately passed to the natives. But the implication that this was a religious war ( jihad) And that is not the case,. If you wish to state or make this a discussion, please Do, otherwise I will conclude you want this to be Included In this discussion of (anti-theism) ? Fair? Thanks! It was not a religious war but a group of people who wanted to eliminate a different group of people. The natives could have been monotheistic, polytheistic, or some other combination. I think the discussion had to do with how the British, considered to be theists/christians, mistreated the native americans. |
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 14:56:03 GMT -5
If you evaluate the moral compass of America (aprox ) Much fighting going on during the “eve of the roaring twenties” Which in all respect , was brought about by People lacking spiritual morals. The issue that you said was distorted was regarding the treatment of the native americans by christians in the mid 1700s. How was it distorted? It’s a distorted report . You know it |
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 14:57:20 GMT -5
I read the propaganda , it’s lies
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 14:57:41 GMT -5
I read the propaganda , it’s lies
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 15:02:09 GMT -5
Believers do not need to bare arms, they register as
Conscientious objectors to killing, and that would include
Attempting to use viruses to cause death
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 15:04:31 GMT -5
If they fail to register as a CO, they are
Stepping outside the moral guideline
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 15:07:33 GMT -5
If an anti-theist shames his fellow unbelievers, does
That mean the group takes the blame for the actions
Of the few?
This is your call,
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Post by rational on Nov 14, 2017 15:12:19 GMT -5
The issue that you said was distorted was regarding the treatment of the native americans by christians in the mid 1700s. How was it distorted? It’s a distorted report . You know it It is written evidence composed by the people involved. What was distorted? |
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Post by rational on Nov 14, 2017 15:14:40 GMT -5
Believers do not need to bare arms, they register as Conscientious objectors to killing, and that would include Attempting to use viruses to cause death The people involved were professional soldiers. The 'No True Scotsman' logical fallacy is out of place here. What part of the report do you think was distorted? |
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Post by rational on Nov 14, 2017 15:16:54 GMT -5
If an anti-theist shames his fellow unbelievers, does That mean the group takes the blame for the actions Of the few? This is your call, Nope, each individual is responsible for their actions. These were christians passing out goods from a place they knew had smallpox. What part of the report was distorted? |
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 15:42:14 GMT -5
If an anti-theist shames his fellow unbelievers, does That mean the group takes the blame for the actions Of the few? This is your call, Nope, each individual is responsible for their actions. These were christians passing out goods from a place they knew had smallpox. What part of the report was distorted? That’s your call, not mine Some people call themselves Rinos , also |
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Post by So on Nov 14, 2017 15:49:42 GMT -5
Believers do not need to bare arms, they register as Conscientious objectors to killing, and that would include Attempting to use viruses to cause death The people involved were professional soldiers. The 'No True Scotsman' logical fallacy is out of place here. What part of the report do you think was distorted? Calling them Christian, That’s not something congruent with trying to help “Do unto others , As, you would that they do unto you “ Anything to the contrary is sidestepping, CO is nonmurder, etc |
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