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Post by Proof on Sept 9, 2017 18:02:51 GMT -5
And according to many definitions of "religion" , atheism qualifies as a religion that believes other religions are all false. Hmmmm😉✌️✌️✌️ Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. Try googling! You'll find many things you wished weren't ✌️✌️ Just cause you don't like to have a religion, don't mean it isn't!! 😉✌️✌️ |
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Post by Proof on Sept 9, 2017 18:06:11 GMT -5
Although like so many " beliefs" , it , too, is a false belief.
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 9, 2017 22:24:39 GMT -5
I think it would qualify as more of a metaphorical idiom. Unless you were trying to raise ornamental grasses. I wonder if that is how farmers feel who are sowing wheat to provide for their families. The generally accepted meaning of the idiom "sowing wild oats" is: To "sow wild oats" normally means (for a man) to have sex with as many women as possible. "Wild oats" here specifically means hypothetical unwanted offspring.Perhaps you should learn about things before expounding on them. The phrase was first used in 16 th century to describe Young people wasting time doing things that's adults Considered "value-less" Of course I made it up! 🙄✌️✌️
"If a young man sows his wild oats, he has a period of his life when he does a lot of exciting things and has a lot of sexual relationships."
So, Proof, - guess if you think that the results of those "wild oats," -which would be children, -are worthless, -then do you think it perhaps reflects something about your own morality? |
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Post by Proof on Sept 10, 2017 4:45:14 GMT -5
Hmm, it seems that the Scientologists,
Registered as a religion.....
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Not sure if it's a false one ....
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Post by Proof on Sept 10, 2017 4:56:15 GMT -5
Occasionally a farmer 👨🌾
Will have very good seed oats, and
the seed has some wild oats mixed into
It!!
Imagine his wife was readying for
divorce, when she found out her
Husband was out seeding wild oats...
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Post by Proof on Sept 10, 2017 5:02:08 GMT -5
I guess whatever kind of oats they seed,
People WILL have a crop to harvest,
whether they are one or the other ...
You DO reap what you SOW!!!
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Post by Proof on Sept 10, 2017 5:04:48 GMT -5
Never heard anyone consider
Sowing wild oats to be a profitable
Project??
Where ever , 🙄✌️✌️
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Post by Proof on Sept 10, 2017 5:12:10 GMT -5
Sowing wild oats is a "stupidity". It should
NEVER be done.
But if it happens you have to deal with it.
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Post by snow on Sept 10, 2017 12:38:09 GMT -5
And according to many definitions of "religion" , atheism qualifies
as a religion that believes other religions are all false. Hmmmm😉✌️✌️✌️
None that I checked stated that.
RELIGION:
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
ATHEISM:
the absence of belief in the existence of deities.
position that there are no deities
For any claim that religionists try to make that "atheism qualifies as a religion," they must first distort the definition of the term atheist.
They will try to claim positions that atheists really don't take.
Can't seem to get theists to understand that it ISN'T a belief that atheists take but an absence of belief.
It's not all that surprising though, after all it's what their lives revolve around, belief. To have no belief in a supernatural entity is beyond their ability to understand right now. For them it's all about beliefs and not facts. |
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Post by rational on Sept 10, 2017 13:10:02 GMT -5
Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. Try googling! You'll find many things you wished weren't ✌️✌️ Just cause you don't like to have a religion, don't mean it isn't!! 😉✌️✌️ Just because it says so in some internet site does now mean it is true. Commonly accepted definition: religion the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.Which one are you using? |
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Post by rational on Sept 10, 2017 13:13:32 GMT -5
Sowing wild oats is a "stupidity". It should NEVER be done. But if it happens you have to deal with it. ✌️✌️😉 Sowing wild oats is an idiom. It is generally accepted to mean young males engaging in indiscriminate sexual relations - sowing/spreading their 'seed'. Saying it is stupidity and should never be done adds little to the discussion. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 11, 2017 0:35:04 GMT -5
Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. Try googling! You'll find many things you wished weren't ✌️✌️ Just cause you don't like to have a religion, don't mean it isn't!! 😉✌️✌️
You will find that the links which claim "Yes" are all Christian apologists sites like the Creationist site.
Would you like it if we atheists defined what you are you?
Don't you think that we know what we are and that we don't need your help to define us?
Definition of religion in English:
The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 11, 2017 0:46:07 GMT -5
Hmm, it seems that the Scientologists, Registered as a religion..... 😉✌️✌️✌️ Not sure if it's a false one ....
Are you thinking that it has something to do with gaining information using the "scientific method?"
It doesn't you know.
The religion Scientology comprises a body of knowledge which extends from certain fundamental truths.
Prime among these are:
Man is an immortal spiritual being.
His experience extends well beyond a single lifetime.
His capabilities are unlimited, even if not presently realized.
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 11, 2017 0:52:49 GMT -5
It sounds like you are saying that the individual that results from young people "sowing wild oats" has little value. What other humans do you feel have little value? Are these christian values? This is an analogy, If you really try to sow wild oats, you would get a crop that has little value. The phrase "sowing ....." , represents doing things of little value. Your example of raising wild oats , doesn't mean raising children?? Unless your culture espouses wild oats to be something other than what they are. ?? ✌️✌️ |
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Post by Proof on Sept 11, 2017 4:18:36 GMT -5
This is an analogy, If you really try to sow wild oats, you would get a crop that has little value. The phrase "sowing ....." , represents doing things of little value. Your example of raising wild oats , doesn't mean raising children?? Unless your culture espouses wild oats to be something other than what they are. ?? ✌️✌️ The fact is that you will reap what you sow, and some people sow weeds. ✌️✌️ |
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Post by Proof on Sept 11, 2017 4:28:09 GMT -5
Sowing wild oats is a "stupidity". It should NEVER be done. But if it happens you have to deal with it. ✌️✌️😉 Sowing wild oats is an idiom. It is generally accepted to mean young males engaging in indiscriminate sexual relations - sowing/spreading their 'seed'. Saying it is stupidity and should never be done adds little to the discussion. And your research on the history is incorrect. It was first known to be used in 1542, and meant doing foolish and worthless activities, and this meaning is still Widely used in all areas, (unless you don't know!) I'll stick with the true analogy of the expression, not some Idiot that doesn't know that we don't come from wild oat seed!!🙄🙄🙄🙄✌️✌️ |
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Post by Proof on Sept 11, 2017 4:42:12 GMT -5
Try googling! You'll find many things you wished weren't ✌️✌️ Just cause you don't like to have a religion, don't mean it isn't!! 😉✌️✌️
Would you like it if we atheists defined what you are you?
Don't you think that we know what we are and that we don't need your help to define us?
Definition of religion in English:
The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.[ At best , atheism is a false belief, if that's what you want to have |
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Post by rational on Sept 12, 2017 0:00:03 GMT -5
At best , atheism is a false belief, if that's what you want to have Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity or deities. The lack of belief can hardly be called false. Of course, once you provide verifiable proof of whatever deity or deities you believe atheists, will have to re-evaluate their understanding of the existence of paranormal beings. BTW - do you have the proof that you have mentioned in the past? |
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Post by Proof on Sept 12, 2017 8:56:22 GMT -5
At best , atheism is a false belief, if that's what you want to have Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity or deities. The lack of belief can hardly be called false. Of course, once you provide verifiable proof of whatever deity or deities you believe atheists, will have to re-evaluate their understanding of the existence of paranormal beings. BTW - do you have the proof that you have mentioned in the past? Yes, it's called forensic scientific proof! Imagine that!!✌️👍😉 |
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Post by Proof on Sept 12, 2017 9:04:08 GMT -5
Example one: (of many)
The statement or similar opines: i cant believe that
One plus one equals two??
But it is a fact that cannot be negated!!!
Thus the form belief is falsified, or false .
Even if it's a negating belief, you are responsible
For it's worth! ✌️👍😉
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Post by rational on Sept 13, 2017 8:01:42 GMT -5
Yes, it's called forensic scientific proof! Imagine that!!✌️👍😉 I think the proof is indeed in your imagination! Stating a possible methodology is not proof. Where is the data/evidence that this methodology had produced? Sort of like saying fingerprinting is a method of getting proof but failing to actually provide any fingerprints. |
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Post by rational on Sept 13, 2017 8:06:20 GMT -5
Example one: (of many) The statement or similar opines: i cant believe that One plus one equals two?? But it is a fact that cannot be negated!!! Thus the form belief is falsified, or false . Even if it's a negating belief, you are responsible For it's worth! ✌️👍😉 I think you indeed made the point. Someone states that 1 + 1 does not equal 2. And then the facts/data show that it does. I state there is not deity or deities. Now where is the data/facts/evidence to prove my statement incorrect? You state that a deity or deities exist. Where are your facts/data/evidence to support your claim? |
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Post by Proof on Sept 13, 2017 9:40:18 GMT -5
Does not nature, "itself" , teach us (humans, at least!!)
that life is "sacred" .
That is certainly not animalistic, is it?? ✌️✌️
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Post by Proof on Sept 13, 2017 15:26:18 GMT -5
Example one: (of many) The statement or similar opines: i cant believe that One plus one equals two?? But it is a fact that cannot be negated!!! Thus the form belief is falsified, or false . Even if it's a negating belief, you are responsible For it's worth! ✌️👍😉 I think you indeed made the point. Someone states that 1 + 1 does not equal 2. And then the facts/data show that it does. I state there is not deity or deities. Now where is the data/facts/evidence to prove my statement incorrect? You state that a deity or deities exist. Where are your facts/data/evidence to support your claim? Then again, it would be quite simple to demonstrate that 1 +1= 3 is a false statement, unless you could prove it to be true! Ok??✌️✌️😉 |
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Post by rational on Sept 13, 2017 17:52:18 GMT -5
Does not nature, "itself" , teach us (humans, at least!!) that life is "sacred" . That is certainly not animalistic, is it?? ✌️✌️ Today I watched a red tail hawk drop and hit a squirrel and tear it to bits and eat it while it was still alive. I didn't get the feeling that the hark thought life was sacred. What makes you think that nature teaches life is sacred? Why do you think it is? |
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Post by rational on Sept 13, 2017 17:57:41 GMT -5
I think you indeed made the point. Someone states that 1 + 1 does not equal 2. And then the facts/data show that it does. I state there is not deity or deities. Now where is the data/facts/evidence to prove my statement incorrect? You state that a deity or deities exist. Where are your facts/data/evidence to support your claim? Then again, it would be quite simple to demonstrate that 1 +1= 3 is a false statement, unless you could prove it to be true! Ok??✌️✌️😉 And if you could prove that there is a deity or deities you would be able to prove that my claim that there are no paranormal beings is false. You still have to come up with any verifiable proof. You keep talking about it but never deliver. |
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Post by Proof on Sept 13, 2017 19:40:57 GMT -5
Does not nature, "itself" , teach us (humans, at least!!) that life is "sacred" . That is certainly not animalistic, is it?? ✌️✌️ Today I watched a red tail hawk drop and hit a squirrel and tear it to bits and eat it while it was still alive. I didn't get the feeling that the hark thought life was sacred. What makes you think that nature teaches life is sacred? Why do you think it is? Only our Creator can give or take "life" Humanity does recognize this, and we do what we canto Not interfere, even to the point of our moral Laws supporting this opinion . ✌️✌️😉 |
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Post by Proof on Sept 13, 2017 19:45:02 GMT -5
Then again, it would be quite simple to demonstrate that 1 +1= 3 is a false statement, unless you could prove it to be true! Ok??✌️✌️😉 And if you could prove that there is a deity or deities you would be able to prove that my claim that there are no paranormal beings is false. You still have to come up with any verifiable proof. You keep talking about it but never deliver. If you cannot prove that 1+1= 3 , then I will Excuse you for not being able to prove things that you do not believe are true.. ✌️✌️😉 |
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