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Post by Proof on Sept 7, 2017 18:32:30 GMT -5
Do you think you will reap what you "sow" , snow?? Who created you?? ✌️✌️. Thanks! What exactly am I sowing? My parents. I am the end result of what this universe will support. Have you heard about young people "sowing wild oats"?? That's just an example of something that is produced that has very little "value", and in fact, does a lot to suppress what could be an abuntant harvest. ✌️
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Post by snow on Sept 8, 2017 14:49:54 GMT -5
Moral laws are moral laws. Ignoring laws will leave you guilty of Breaking the Law✌️ ✌️✌️ Laws were made to be broken! Isn't that how the saying goes?
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Post by xna on Sept 8, 2017 15:20:15 GMT -5
Moral laws are moral laws. Ignoring laws will leave you guilty of Breaking the Law✌️ ✌️✌️ Laws were made to be broken! Isn't that how the saying goes? more saying....Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.Anonymous Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.Anonymous
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Post by Proof on Sept 8, 2017 18:10:24 GMT -5
Hey, you guys are starting to understand the laws of Science!!
Our Creator made them, and understands their benefits and "limits"
Good to know!
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Post by rational on Sept 8, 2017 19:30:27 GMT -5
Moral laws are moral laws. Ignoring laws will leave you guilty of Breaking the Law✌️ ✌️✌️ It sounds like you believe there are universal moral laws. Can you support that belief?
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Post by rational on Sept 8, 2017 19:34:09 GMT -5
What exactly am I sowing? My parents. I am the end result of what this universe will support. Have you heard about young people "sowing wild oats"?? That's just an example of something that is produced that has very little "value", and in fact, does a lot to suppress what could be an abuntant harvest. ✌️ It sounds like you are saying that the individual that results from young people "sowing wild oats" has little value. What other humans do you feel have little value? Are these christian values?
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Post by rational on Sept 8, 2017 19:37:04 GMT -5
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.Anonymous Usually attributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Post by Proof on Sept 9, 2017 0:00:21 GMT -5
Have you heard about young people "sowing wild oats"?? That's just an example of something that is produced that has very little "value", and in fact, does a lot to suppress what could be an abuntant harvest. ✌️ It sounds like you are saying that the individual that results from young people "sowing wild oats" has little value. What other humans do you feel have little value? Are these christian values? This is an analogy, If you really try to sow wild oats, you would get a crop that has little value. The phrase "sowing ....." , represents doing things of little value. Your example of raising wild oats , doesn't mean raising children?? Unless your culture espouses wild oats to be something other than what they are. ?? ✌️✌️
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Post by Proof on Sept 9, 2017 0:04:16 GMT -5
Moral laws are moral laws. Ignoring laws will leave you guilty of Breaking the Law✌️ ✌️✌️ It sounds like you believe there are universal moral laws. Can you support that belief? Does personal experience count as support?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 0:06:02 GMT -5
It sounds like you believe there are universal moral laws. Can you support that belief? Does personal experience count as support? sorry, not for an atheist....
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Post by Proof on Sept 9, 2017 0:10:55 GMT -5
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.Anonymous Usually attributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca Sounds like "religion" doesn't mean "religion" , anymore.🤔🤔🤔 Pure religion is to visit the widows and the fatherless In their affliction, and keep unspotted from this world. Sounds like a wise goal to me! 👍✌️✌️
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Post by Proof on Sept 9, 2017 0:14:39 GMT -5
To the common man. False religion, is not true.
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Post by xna on Sept 9, 2017 11:26:33 GMT -5
To the common man. False religion, is not true. 😉✌️✌️ People are certain THEIR religion is NOT false.
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Post by xna on Sept 9, 2017 11:32:33 GMT -5
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Post by rational on Sept 9, 2017 12:08:03 GMT -5
It sounds like you believe there are universal moral laws. Can you support that belief? Does personal experience count as support? If you can provide verifiable evidence that can be replicated by others.
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Post by rational on Sept 9, 2017 12:41:59 GMT -5
It sounds like you are saying that the individual that results from young people "sowing wild oats" has little value. What other humans do you feel have little value? Are these christian values? This is an analogy, I think it would qualify as more of a metaphorical idiom. Unless you were trying to raise ornamental grasses. I wonder if that is how farmers feel who are sowing wheat to provide for their families. The generally accepted meaning of the idiom "sowing wild oats" is: To "sow wild oats" normally means (for a man) to have sex with as many women as possible. "Wild oats" here specifically means hypothetical unwanted offspring.Perhaps you should learn about things before expounding on them.
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Post by Proof on Sept 9, 2017 14:22:38 GMT -5
I think it would qualify as more of a metaphorical idiom. Unless you were trying to raise ornamental grasses. I wonder if that is how farmers feel who are sowing wheat to provide for their families. The generally accepted meaning of the idiom "sowing wild oats" is: To "sow wild oats" normally means (for a man) to have sex with as many women as possible. "Wild oats" here specifically means hypothetical unwanted offspring.Perhaps you should learn about things before expounding on them. The phrase was first used in 16 th century to describe Young people wasting time doing things that's adults Considered "value-less" Of course I made it up! 🙄✌️✌️
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Post by Proof on Sept 9, 2017 14:25:14 GMT -5
Does personal experience count as support? If you can provide verifiable evidence that can be replicated by others. Of course you are planning to replicate the origin of life and the universe , someday! ✌️😉😉🙄🙄✌️
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Post by Proof on Sept 9, 2017 14:34:00 GMT -5
I will stick with calling an analogy, I am comparing two events that have equally value-less merit.
If you describe either as having trivial value, the equally trivial value of the other could be espoused.
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Whoever came up with your definition , must of had a Headache 🤕
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Post by Proof on Sept 9, 2017 14:47:05 GMT -5
To the common man. False religion, is not true. 😉✌️✌️ People are certain THEIR religion is NOT false. [ And you have proof for such a erroneous statement?? You seem to be trying to change the meaning of religion?? Pure religion is already defined. False religion is only possible if there is some truth Being falsified... ✌️✌️✌️👍😉
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Post by xna on Sept 9, 2017 15:20:33 GMT -5
People are certain THEIR religion is NOT false. And you have proof for such a erroneous statement?? You seem to be trying to change the meaning of religion?? Pure religion is already defined. ✌️✌️✌️👍😉 I'm not sure what you mean by " pure religion", but I suspect each think their's is the pure one and the other guys is polluted. I understand religion as; " The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods."People believe their god & their brand of religion is the right one and they have the Truth, so the others must be wrong. For proof see godchecker.com which lists almost 4,000 gods. Just for the category; Christian / Protestant there are thousands of denominations Ones god and religion is most likely the same as your parents, religion is often sexually transmitted.
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Post by Grant on Sept 9, 2017 15:33:59 GMT -5
Most denominations believe the same thing and serve the same God.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 15:37:19 GMT -5
Most denominations believe the same thing and serve the same God. that can't be right there are over 40,000 denominations because of differences...they may serve the same God but they don't necessarily believe the same things...
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Post by rational on Sept 9, 2017 16:27:20 GMT -5
The phrase was first used in 16 th century to describe Young people wasting time doing things that's adults Considered "value-less" Of course I made it up! 🙄✌️✌️ If you were writing in the 16th century I would have let it go.
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Post by rational on Sept 9, 2017 16:28:34 GMT -5
Most denominations believe the same thing and serve the same God. But the arreibutes of their god(s) vary from religion to religion.
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Post by Proof on Sept 9, 2017 16:58:35 GMT -5
And according to many definitions of "religion" , atheism qualifies as a religion that believes other religions are all false.
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Post by xna on Sept 9, 2017 17:28:06 GMT -5
And according to many definitions of "religion" , atheism qualifies as a religion that believes other religions are all false. Hmmmm😉✌️✌️✌️ Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 9, 2017 17:55:21 GMT -5
And according to many definitions of "religion" , atheism qualifies as a religion that believes other religions are all false. Hmmmm😉✌️✌️✌️ Not sure what dictionary that you are citing when you say "according to many definitions of "religion", atheism qualifies as a religion." None that I checked stated that.
RELIGION:
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
ATHEISM:
the absence of belief in the existence of deities. position that there are no deities
For any claim that religionists try to make that "atheism qualifies as a religion," they must first distort the definition of the term atheist.
They will try to claim positions that atheists really don't take.
Can't seem to get theists to understand that it ISN'T a belief that atheists take but an absence of belief.
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