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Post by Proof on Sept 13, 2017 19:47:02 GMT -5
Oops, I meant that as : prove 1+1= 3 is a false statement
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Post by Proof on Sept 13, 2017 19:50:45 GMT -5
A video produced by David Berlinski, rebuffing a book
By an atheist , is straightforward forensic evidence of a Creator
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Post by rational on Sept 13, 2017 20:37:15 GMT -5
Today I watched a red tail hawk drop and hit a squirrel and tear it to bits and eat it while it was still alive. I didn't get the feeling that the hark thought life was sacred. What makes you think that nature teaches life is sacred? Why do you think it is? Only our Creator can give or take "life" This is BS. I have killed many plants simply by not providing them with water! What makes you think that nature teaches life is sacred? Why do you think it is? |
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Post by rational on Sept 13, 2017 21:03:32 GMT -5
A video produced by David Berlinski, rebuffing a book By an atheist , is straightforward forensic evidence of a Creator He works for the Discovery Institute - an organization that promotes ID. What did you expect. But to be fair, list the arguments that Berlinski put forth, ignoring the old tired creationist arguments, and we can examine them. After all, Berlinski does claim he is not a creationist so he must have some arguments of his own. Thanks in advance. I am looking forward to reading his arguments. |
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Post by rational on Sept 13, 2017 21:39:45 GMT -5
Oops, I meant that as : prove 1+1= 3 is a false statement Why prove it false? Let: X = Y Therefore: X - y + Y = Y Divide both sides by X - Y: X - Y + Y Y --------- = ------ X - Y X - Y Factoring: X - Y Y Y ----- + ----- = ------ X - Y X - Y X - Y Reducing: Y Y 1 + ------ = ------- X - Y X - Y Y Subtracting ----- from both sides of the equation: X - Y 1 = 0 Therefore: 0 = 1 1 = 1 1 = 1 --------------------- 0 + 1 + 1 = 1 + 1 + 1 it follows that: 1 + 1 = 3Do you feel there is an error in this proof? |
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Post by Proof on Sept 14, 2017 15:13:05 GMT -5
Oops, I meant that as : prove 1+1= 3 is a false statement Why prove it false? Let: X = Y Therefore: X - y + Y = Y Divide both sides by X - Y: X - Y + Y Y --------- = ------ X - Y X - Y Factoring: X - Y Y Y ----- + ----- = ------ X - Y X - Y X - Y Reducing: Y Y 1 + ------ = ------- X - Y X - Y Y Subtracting ----- from both sides of the equation: X - Y 1 = 0 Therefore: 0 = 1 1 = 1 1 = 1 --------------------- 0 + 1 + 1 = 1 + 1 + 1 it follows that: 1 + 1 = 3Do you feel there is an error in this proof? Rationally , it uses the same evidence that proves you can get something from nothing. And in the material world it does not compute .., you knew that!!✌️✌️😉 |
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Post by Proof on Sept 14, 2017 15:36:57 GMT -5
A video produced by David Berlinski, rebuffing a book By an atheist , is straightforward forensic evidence of a Creator He works for the Discovery Institute - an organization that promotes ID. What did you expect. But to be fair, list the arguments that Berlinski put forth, ignoring the old tired creationist arguments, and we can examine them. After all, Berlinski does claim he is not a creationist so he must have some arguments of his own. Thanks in advance. I am looking forward to reading his arguments. That's what I knew you would reply with.. It seems the only proof you would look at is a proof written by an aThe-ist, that proves We need a Creator. Ok, but is it ok if he changed beliefs in the Process, as many affirm so. !! ✌️✌️😉😉 |
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Post by Proof on Sept 14, 2017 15:39:43 GMT -5
And wouldn't it most likely to be accepted
In ID institute. than the less rationed Institution
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Post by rational on Sept 14, 2017 18:12:40 GMT -5
He works for the Discovery Institute - an organization that promotes ID. What did you expect. But to be fair, list the arguments that Berlinski put forth, ignoring the old tired creationist arguments, and we can examine them. After all, Berlinski does claim he is not a creationist so he must have some arguments of his own. Thanks in advance. I am looking forward to reading his arguments. That's what I knew you would reply with.. It seems the only proof you would look at is a proof written by an aThe-ist, that proves We need a Creator. Ok, but is it ok if he changed beliefs in the Process, as many affirm so. !! ✌️✌️😉😉 Again, not a sign of the proof you claim to have. And I also noticed you did not list the evidence that you claim Berlinski presented. Can we look forward to that in the foreseeable future or just more evasion? |
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Post by xna on Sept 14, 2017 20:29:07 GMT -5
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 14, 2017 20:36:56 GMT -5
Yes, -please do "google" "Is Atheism a religion?"
Would you like it if we atheists defined what you are you?
Don't you think that we know what we are and that we don't need your help to define us?
Definition of religion in English:
The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. At best , atheism is a false belief, if that's what you want to have
Do you believe in ghosts?
If not, is your lack of belief in ghosts false? |
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 14, 2017 20:46:50 GMT -5
He works for the Discovery Institute - an organization that promotes ID. What did you expect. But to be fair, list the arguments that Berlinski put forth, ignoring the old tired creationist arguments, and we can examine them. After all, Berlinski does claim he is not a creationist so he must have some arguments of his own. Thanks in advance. I am looking forward to reading his arguments. That's what I knew you would reply with.. It seems the only proof you would look at is a proof written by an aThe-ist, that proves We need a Creator. Ok, but is it ok if he changed beliefs in the Process, as many affirm so. !! ✌️✌️😉😉
Then we can discuss those amongst ourselves. |
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Post by snow on Sept 15, 2017 15:21:00 GMT -5
So many things that theists do because the bible justifies it really bother me. But this one, choosing a bible belief over the life and well being of a child not only bothers me greatly but it also angers me. How can anyone justify their ritual if it is harming a child. |
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Post by xna on Sept 15, 2017 20:32:41 GMT -5
So many things that theists do because the bible justifies it really bother me. But this one, choosing a bible belief over the life and well being of a child not only bothers me greatly but it also angers me. How can anyone justify their ritual if it is harming a child. He is the big shot too in AU but I wonder if he is just trying to save his own neck, or then he may see the RCC image as more important than one or a few people. |
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Post by snow on Sept 16, 2017 11:32:28 GMT -5
So many things that theists do because the bible justifies it really bother me. But this one, choosing a bible belief over the life and well being of a child not only bothers me greatly but it also angers me. How can anyone justify their ritual if it is harming a child. He is the big shot too in AU but I wonder if he is just trying to save his own neck, or then he may see the RCC image as more important than one or a few people. The leaders of religious groups are most times a heck of a lot worse than any of their members. What bothers me is that secular society (court judges) allows these guys to get away with child abuse because they are preachers/priests! Come on! That is just bogus! |
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Post by Proof on Sept 17, 2017 6:57:08 GMT -5
That's what I knew you would reply with.. It seems the only proof you would look at is a proof written by an aThe-ist, that proves We need a Creator. Ok, but is it ok if he changed beliefs in the Process, as many affirm so. !! ✌️✌️😉😉 Again, not a sign of the proof you claim to have. And I also noticed you did not list the evidence that you claim Berlinski presented. Can we look forward to that in the foreseeable future or just more evasion? It would be interesting to hear you question Some of the hundreds of forensic evidences Put forth by Berlinski , in his books, videos , Etc. He is much more eloquent than I could hope To Be!! 😉✌️✌️ |
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Post by Proof on Sept 17, 2017 7:02:55 GMT -5
i have a few reasons collected, that are
Personal to my self,
for one, the ancient Hebrew language ,
Proves that it was the created by the Same Creator that created all things . ✌️👍
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Post by rational on Sept 17, 2017 8:28:04 GMT -5
Again, not a sign of the proof you claim to have. And I also noticed you did not list the evidence that you claim Berlinski presented. Can we look forward to that in the foreseeable future or just more evasion? It would be interesting to hear you question Some of the hundreds of forensic evidences Put forth by Berlinski , in his books, videos , Etc. He is much more eloquent than I could hope To Be!! 😉✌️✌️ Quote Berlinski directly. So far your 'proof' has been a video clip without references. As I said, post some of the points that he made and we can all discuss them. We are not looking for eloquence, great oratory, or grandiloquent speeches. We are looking for verifiable data. So far - nothing from you. |
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Post by rational on Sept 17, 2017 8:41:21 GMT -5
i have a few reasons collected, that are Personal to my self, for one, the ancient Hebrew language , Proves that it was the created by the Same Creator that created all things . ✌️👍 That is far from a proof. Egyptian, Old Chinese, Luwian, Sumerian, etc. all predate the Hebrew language. You will need to explain how the existence of a single language among many supports your claim. |
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Post by Proof on Sept 17, 2017 12:19:18 GMT -5
i have a few reasons collected, that are Personal to my self, for one, the ancient Hebrew language , Proves that it was the created by the Same Creator that created all things . ✌️👍 That is far from a proof. Egyptian, Old Chinese, Luwian, Sumerian, etc. all predate the Hebrew language. You will need to explain how the existence of a single language among many supports your claim. How can you verify the origin of a spoken language? |
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Post by Proof on Sept 17, 2017 12:28:34 GMT -5
The language was handed down from Creator, to enable
a fellow shipping, communication.👍👍😉
Do you believe the Hebrew invented their language, in
the thought that it would be necessary for God to
Understand what they needed??? God already knows
Our needs, after all He Created our DNA , and that
is a self addressed instruction manual of what and when
to get life. God supplies the need
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Post by Proof on Sept 17, 2017 12:30:03 GMT -5
Hebrew language is divine in origin
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Post by snow on Sept 17, 2017 20:35:46 GMT -5
All you need is popcorn!
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Post by xna on Sept 17, 2017 20:42:39 GMT -5
I haven't seen this for while  |
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 17, 2017 20:49:24 GMT -5
Again, not a sign of the proof you claim to have. And I also noticed you did not list the evidence that you claim Berlinski presented. Can we look forward to that in the foreseeable future or just more evasion? It would be interesting to hear you question Some of the hundreds of forensic evidences Put forth by Berlinski , in his books, videos , Etc. He is much more eloquent than I could hope To Be!! 😉✌️✌️
Don't underrate yourself.
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 17, 2017 20:51:03 GMT -5
Hebrew language is divine in origin |
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Post by Proof on Sept 18, 2017 1:12:54 GMT -5
Check it!!
Video::
"The Hebrew language, the "DNA"
Of creation! "
Great topic, it could be very useful to watch and
try to grasp the meanings of ..
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 18, 2017 1:25:36 GMT -5
Check it!! Video:: "The Hebrew language, the "DNA" Of creation! " Great topic, it could be very useful to watch and try to grasp the meanings of ..
And just WHO is this "Rabbi Mordechai Kraft" that we should believe him? |
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