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Post by Proof on Oct 9, 2017 4:58:44 GMT -5
Greek alphabet also has this feature
But , the principal features of the Hebrew, do not
Correlate to the Greek, hence the Greek word for "earth" , does not have a numeric value correlation to the (diameter of the earth). Etc
Same with Greek names for colours,,,
We see correlation, and then we can consider if
there was a purpose to the correlation.
Hebrew has an information correlating to its numeric
Assignment.
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Post by snow on Oct 9, 2017 13:23:16 GMT -5
So now we're into numerology? If I take the numbers of my name and add them up they come out as the same as Albert Einstein. If you take the numbers of the day he died and the day I was conceived you get the same numbers. According to numerologists that told me this, I am the reincarnation of Albert. I am absolutely positive this is not true! I love physics, I'm bad at math (like him) but I am not real good at physics (like him). This is an example of just how twisted things get when you're not being logical. Could be an error here. Albert was not bad at math. theeconomyofmeaning.com/2013/07/27/science-myths-did-einstein-failed-his-fourth-grade-math-class/LOL didn't know he was said to have failed his 4th grade math. I'm sure he was better at it than that. However, in one book I read about Albert they made the comment that his math wasn't as strong as some of the other physicists of his era. Obviously he knew enough to come up with his general relativity theory etc. so he wasn't a dummy. btw I don't believe I'm the reincarnation of Albert, just in case anyone thinks that's what I think. It was a post to prove the opposite actually. When it comes to numerology it's not 'proof' as Proof states. The above proves it's not proof. Just a silly parlor game. |
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Post by snow on Oct 9, 2017 13:25:24 GMT -5
So now we're into numerology? If I take the numbers of my name and add them up they come out as the same as Albert Einstein. If you take the numbers of the day he died and the day I was conceived you get the same numbers. According to numerologists that told me this, I am the reincarnation of Albert. I am absolutely positive this is not true! I love physics, I'm bad at math (like him) but I am not real good at physics (like him). This is an example of just how twisted things get when you're not being logical. ?? I think you are being very illogical Hebrew language uses their alphabet "letters" to also Represent numbers English is rather clumsy in that: it's easier to use 18 than eighteen, even though How is it being illogical to not believe in numerology? I most certainly am not the reincarnation of Einstein! But that's what the numbers can be manipulated to say. |
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Post by rational on Oct 9, 2017 14:53:51 GMT -5
Greek alphabet also has this feature But , the principal features of the Hebrew, do not Correlate to the Greek, hence the Greek word for "earth" , does not have a numeric value correlation to the (diameter of the earth). Etc Same with Greek names for colours,,, We see correlation, and then we can consider if there was a purpose to the correlation. Hebrew has an information correlating to its numeric Assignment. So what is the Hebrew word for 'earth' and what are the values of the letters in that word. Also, what are the units of measurement. I see the claims being made but always without the details to explain how the value was derived. Alas, I am guessing you are just quoting something you read on the internet and are clueless as to whether there is any backup for the claims. |
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Post by Proof on Oct 9, 2017 20:57:46 GMT -5
youtu.be/QvKlP7hEo-QOk, it's all in the book that you said you glanced/skimmed through but there is the condensed video of the book And it gives the Hebrew name for Earth , it's something like : Eretz
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Post by rational on Oct 10, 2017 0:02:44 GMT -5
youtu.be/QvKlP7hEo-QOk, it's all in the book that you said you glanced/skimmed through but there is the condensed video of the book And it gives the Hebrew name for Earth , it's something like : Eretz Here is what the author claims regarding the Hebrew word for earth: (HA’ARETZ) ... earth ...   - 5  - 1  - 200  - 90 So there you have it - a sum of 296. Not evenly divided by 7. The diameter of the earth is about 12,756 km or 7926 mi. Your claim was that the hebrew word for earth contained the diameter of the earth. 296 of what unit would satisfy that claim? Let's consider the word red in hebrew:  - 1  - 20  - 50  - 40 For a total of 111. The wavelength of red light is between 620–750 nm The frequency of red light is between 400–484 THz Your claim was that the name of the colors in hebrew equaled the wavelength. Two of the claims made checked and found to be BS. The sad thing is that even when presented with the BS that you have read you continue to believe it. |
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Post by Proof on Oct 10, 2017 6:21:29 GMT -5
youtu.be/QvKlP7hEo-QOk, it's all in the book that you said you glanced/skimmed through but there is the condensed video of the book And it gives the Hebrew name for Earth , it's something like : Eretz Here is what the author claims regarding the Hebrew word for earth: (HA’ARETZ) ... earth ... - 5 - 1 - 200 - 90 So there you have it - a sum of 296. Not evenly divided by 7. The diameter of the earth is about 12,756 km or 7926 mi. Your claim was that the hebrew word for earth contained the diameter of the earth. 296 of what unit would satisfy that claim? Let's consider the word red in hebrew: - 1 - 20 - 50 - 40 For a total of 111. The wavelength of red light is between 620–750 nm The frequency of red light is between 400–484 THz Your claim was that the name of the colors in hebrew equaled the wavelength. Two of the claims made checked and found to be BS. The sad thing is that even when presented with the BS that you have read you continue to believe it. You missed it |
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Post by matisse on Oct 10, 2017 6:23:17 GMT -5
Here is what the author claims regarding the Hebrew word for earth: (HA’ARETZ) ... earth ... - 5 - 1 - 200 - 90 So there you have it - a sum of 296. Not evenly divided by 7. The diameter of the earth is about 12,756 km or 7926 mi. Your claim was that the hebrew word for earth contained the diameter of the earth. 296 of what unit would satisfy that claim? Let's consider the word red in hebrew: - 1 - 20 - 50 - 40 For a total of 111. The wavelength of red light is between 620–750 nm The frequency of red light is between 400–484 THz Your claim was that the name of the colors in hebrew equaled the wavelength. Two of the claims made checked and found to be BS. The sad thing is that even when presented with the BS that you have read you continue to believe it. You missed it Rational showed his work. Time for you to show yours. |
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Post by Proof on Oct 10, 2017 6:34:09 GMT -5
The video showed the correlation, that the language of the words (Hebraic)
Have a (DIRECT) correlation to its essential
Properties . This point is described and also thoughtfully demonstrated
If you chose to believe that the Hebrew language
does not correlate the word with what the word describes it to be ?
Then you can chose the Language that gives you what
You want to read and understand.
This book , isn't about making a new , it's about
Discovering what a word , ( such as a chemical expression,)
Can enlighten us with, and with Hebrew, I like
what can be understood, and the correlation stands,
Whether or not YOU agree with IT. ✅✅👍
But nevertheless, THANK you for Sharing a thoughtful
Reply!
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Post by Proof on Oct 10, 2017 6:37:32 GMT -5
Rational showed his work. Time for you to show yours. The book/video showed it, sorry it wasn't Understood, I cannot do any better than They did!!! ✌️ |
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Post by matisse on Oct 10, 2017 6:39:58 GMT -5
Rational showed his work. Time for you to show yours. The book/video showed it, sorry it wasn't Understood, I cannot do any better than They did!!! ✌️ If Rational's approach is not correct, show how he is wrong. Otherwise, it looks like he has debunked the video. |
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Post by Proof on Oct 10, 2017 6:49:01 GMT -5
Rational showed his work. Time for you to show yours. ?? , I agree with the analysis done in the book, Now write another supplement ? |
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Post by Proof on Oct 10, 2017 7:01:40 GMT -5
The book/video showed it, sorry it wasn't Understood, I cannot do any better than They did!!! ✌️ If Rational's approach is not correct, show how he is wrong. Otherwise, it looks like he has debunked the video. Well, twisting words isn't my idea of " debunking", But enjoy it if you like! 😉 |
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Post by rational on Oct 10, 2017 13:48:11 GMT -5
The video showed the correlation, that the language of the words (Hebraic) Have a (DIRECT) correlation to its essential Properties . This point is described and also thoughtfully demonstrated If you chose to believe that the Hebrew language does not correlate the word with what the word describes it to be ? Then you can chose the Language that gives you what You want to read and understand. This book , isn't about making a new , it's about Discovering what a word , ( such as a chemical expression,) Can enlighten us with, and with Hebrew, I like what can be understood, and the correlation stands, Whether or not YOU agree with IT. ✅✅👍 But nevertheless, THANK you for Sharing a thoughtful Reply! As I expected, you have nothing to show how the points I presented were not correct. And you have nothing to show, for example, how the words for various colors have the wave length encoded in the letters. I demonstrated in detail how the author you quoted was wrong in the first two words I picked. Do you have anything at all to support your claims? You keep saying you do but so far have provided nothing but a few YouTube videos without supporting references. It would be much the same if I used the Disney film Dumbo to support a claim that elephants can fly. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 10, 2017 15:50:34 GMT -5
The video showed the correlation, that the language of the words (Hebraic) Have a (DIRECT) correlation to its essential Properties . This point is described and also thoughtfully demonstrated If you chose to believe that the Hebrew language does not correlate the word with what the word describes it to be ? Then you can chose the Language that gives you what You want to read and understand. This book , isn't about making a new , it's about Discovering what a word , ( such as a chemical expression,) Can enlighten us with, and with Hebrew, I like what can be understood, and the correlation stands, Whether or not YOU agree with IT. ✅✅👍 But nevertheless, THANK you for Sharing a thoughtful Reply!
It isn't just the material itself that is on trial as to it's authenticity but the very method used by someone like him.
For those who are unaware of how these methods are used to construct something, the conclusion may seem logical but is really a bunch of chaff!
The best way to test such a method is for you, yourself to take a bunch of numbers about yourself & construct something you know is false.
If shouldn't take very long for you to construct a story that sounds logical but you, yourself know is not true.
Go ahead try it.
It's a good exercise.
You refute Rational's work and you can continue to argue for Mordechai Kraft's idea until doomsday but it won't help you until you understand that it is Mordechai Kraft's method that is the problem. |
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Post by Proof on Oct 10, 2017 17:46:59 GMT -5
The video showed the correlation, that the language of the words (Hebraic) Have a (DIRECT) correlation to its essential Properties . This point is described and also thoughtfully demonstrated If you chose to believe that the Hebrew language does not correlate the word with what the word describes it to be ? Then you can chose the Language that gives you what You want to read and understand. This book , isn't about making a new , it's about Discovering what a word , ( such as a chemical expression,) Can enlighten us with, and with Hebrew, I like what can be understood, and the correlation stands, Whether or not YOU agree with IT. ✅✅👍 But nevertheless, THANK you for Sharing a thoughtful Reply!
It isn't just the material itself that is on trial as to it's authenticity but the very method used by someone like him.
For those who are unaware of how these methods are used to construct something, the conclusion may seem logical but is really a bunch of chaff!
The best way to test such a method is for you, yourself to take a bunch of numbers about yourself & construct something you know is false.
If shouldn't take very long for you to construct a story that sounds logical but you, yourself know is not true.
Go ahead try it.
It's a good exercise.
You refute Rational's work and you can continue to argue for Mordechai Kraft's idea until doomsday but it won't help you until you understand that it is Mordechai Kraft's method that is the problem. Suit yourself,. I see it differently, I understand when someone calls water, by its chemical name H2O. And people that use that language have A big head start , when they take chemistry. It gives information as well as designated. If you understood ? The purpose of having a language that Contains a vast amount of information in wording concepts, There is more logic to the language. A "hot and bright light", aught to correlate to something Like "the Sun" Why not put the design of wavelength , in the letters for the color, Especially since it can be done! It has been demonstrated that this type of language is Possible, and according to the book, it's REALLY true I like it!! It's very cool!! 😉✌️ |
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Post by rational on Oct 10, 2017 22:20:53 GMT -5
Suit yourself,. I see it differently, I understand when someone calls water, by its chemical name H2O. And people that use that language have A big head start , when they take chemistry. H2O is not the chemical name for water - it is the chemical formula of water. The name might be dihydrogen monoxide And yet, as I demonstrated, it is not as claimed. I posted two examples where the said correlation does not exist. While perhaps it can be done you have yet to demonstrate that it has been done. |
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Post by Proof on Oct 11, 2017 4:04:58 GMT -5
The Torah name for earth is Eretz , not the name you
Presented, The HNV of Eretz is : 271
Other than what you claimed as you refutation of
Wavelengths, have you actually read or watched
Any of the information. ?
Of course we all have our personal prejudices,
I felt the case was very well made, imo
But I do understand that these types of reports/books
Could offend someone that believes Hebrew was
Derived from pagan language(s) ??
Eh?
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Post by Proof on Oct 11, 2017 4:12:42 GMT -5
It's interesting to read some of the many reports about
The Hebrew language, it certainly is an impressive
History.
One letter can represent a word, one word can represent
A whole sentence,
The language revolves around the reality of , the God of Torah.
I may post some more videos, as there are hundreds
😉
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Post by Proof on Oct 11, 2017 4:36:35 GMT -5
H2O is not the chemical name for water - it is the chemical formula of water. ][/quote] I read that according to some , water is the correct chemical name for H2O. But it isn't a big deal to me either,. ✅ |
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Post by rational on Oct 11, 2017 10:14:03 GMT -5
The Torah name for earth is Eretz , not the name you Presented, The HNV of Eretz is : 271 Other than what you claimed as you refutation of Wavelengths, have you actually read or watched Any of the information. ? Of course we all have our personal prejudices, I felt the case was very well made, imo But I do understand that these types of reports/books Could offend someone that believes Hebrew was Derived from pagan language(s) ?? Eh? ✌️ OK Original Word: אָ֫רֶץ Here is what the author claims regarding the Hebrew word for earth: (ERETZ) ... earth ...
ALEPH - 1
RESH - 200
TZADI - 90
So there you have it - a sum of 291. Not evenly divided by 7. The diameter of the earth is about 12,756 km or 7926 mi. Your claim was that the hebrew word for earth contained the diameter of the earth. 291 of what unit would satisfy that claim? Or looking at your claim that the sum is 271 (Of course you did not provide any support for your calculation so there is no way to know how you derived that value.) Using the value you claim, how does 271 relate to the diameter of the earth? FWIW - it looks like whoever you got your information from confused the final Tzadik (value 90) with Ain (value 70). The material you are quoting was poorly researched. Now in three of the cases you have mentioned there is no relationship between the word and some value to which it relates. It also appears that the research included the misspelling of the hebrew word ERETZ. And the use of the word ERETZ that actually means land and not earth. Original Word: אָ֫רֶץ Part of Speech: Noun Feminine Transliteration: erets Phonetic Spelling: (eh'-rets) Short Definition: land ’eretz: land (1543 times in KJV), earth (712 times), country (140 times), way (3 times), ground.
To follow Tyndale and translate ’eretz as “earth” is to mislead the modern-day reader into picturing “Planet Earth,” for this is what the word “earth” inevitably conjures up for us in the context of a cosmology. As before, what Tyndale could get away with (without doing injustice to the Hebrew text) is no longer possible for us. “Land”—the most frequently used English equivalent for ’eretz—is much less likely to mislead. This, however, is not merely land as in real estate, but also (and often) land as in “promised land” or “land of Israel” (’Eretz Israel is now the state of Israel).
Therefore:’eretz = land (not earth).So far, nothing claimed has been what you said. The research on the most basic level has been poorly done. There is no peer review od what was claimed. It is BS. |
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Post by Proof on Oct 11, 2017 16:55:43 GMT -5
The Torah says God " created the" (eretz)
That is the word that the Hebrew Torah
Uses.
That is the point made by video, NOT
My opinion
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Post by Proof on Oct 11, 2017 18:44:29 GMT -5
It's explained at the time (7:15 minutes)
Using log(e) formatting , and correlating the results
With the results of (moon and sun)
Showing the diameters in kilometers ,
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Post by eyedeetentee on Oct 15, 2017 15:20:28 GMT -5
dmmichgood I am relieved that you do not see my writings as "nonsensical junk." I stayed up every night since reading your post in 2014 and hoped that your mind had traveled far from the sands. My writings cannot be proven unless one has the same knowledge as I from the same dimension. Very few exist that know these things. I have made progress into the seventeenth dimension, though the progress was bumpy and chaotic. I believe the eighteenth dimension may be much the same as previous dimensions. Luckily, some dingbat's interpretation of Hebrew lettering has no bearing on travel.
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Post by Proof on Oct 15, 2017 18:45:38 GMT -5
Spoken languages are invisible. The zero dimension, imo
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Post by Proof on Oct 25, 2017 17:10:22 GMT -5
Do you believe that God heard Sarah ,(laugh) , when
God told her she would bare a son in her very old age?
Do you?
Do you?
If you say you do, then the whole narrative that we read
About flows as it should and acceptance is as real
As Sarah hearing that God was interested in Sarah (and Abraham)
Believing that they Did in fact have communication as provided in text.
If this is acceptable, the be know that God had a personal
Communication with Abraham and Sarah
Then, as we find out later , Gideon thought he heard
What God asked him to do, and he asked God to
Show and to prove that it was true,
The narrative explains the method of proof ,
It was carried out as such , and the proof stood as
It should
If God (our Creator - no less) proves that He is speaking
To you, it behooves reasonable people , to consider
His proof as sufficient evidence that we do it or
Accept the results of such
During conversation, it may be helpful to know
the reward/penalty for either obedience/refusal
if you are a good advocate and able to defend
on basis of thinking humanly, can the giver and taker
If life also be able to defend who He will defend.
It's all about faith in the Giver of life!
👍 Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 17:13:33 GMT -5
Normally we all have three choices: be good, be bad or be indifferent. If we are unable to decide which one we can put them in a hat, close our eyes and pick one out of the hat.  Does a person choose to be bad? My belief is that some do. |
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Post by Proof on Oct 25, 2017 17:29:38 GMT -5
Abraham is the father of all faiths: Judaic-Christian,Chosen Hebrews, Muslim, Hindu, probably others ...descendants innumerable...
And it's profoundly arrogant to think he was deficient,
.... I say he did pretty good for a father in his old age!!
👍👍
(Don't think it bothers him to be falsely accused at this
Moment ? )
Cheers. 🙂
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