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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2012 10:50:06 GMT -5
  A senior worker that was in Tasmania and Victoria, stayed in my parents home. We were going to a mission that was an hour away. He insisted in riding in the back of the car with my sister and I. My father had asked him several times that he should sit in the front and my mother would sit in the back with my sister and I. On the way to the mission he touched my leg several times, even though I moved away he kept doing it. On the way home he continued to do it. I felt very confused as I was a teenage girl and had feelings. He never did it to my sister, she had a bigger voice than me. As I know now, they know which victim to pray on . This same man was in the work with the other VIC worker than has been convicted. He used to stand outside my sister and my bedroom door late after my parents went to bed. I can only thank my sister, and her big voice that protected me from him. He is still a senior worker in the work today! I am too scared to ever contact anyone about this, but I thought posting on here is a start. I have only recently told my parents of this, who are still professing. And they are livid! That's a horrible experience to have to deal with, especially knowing that this person may well be continuing in his offenses. WINGS exists to help victims of abuse and to help prevent future victims from those who are in positions of power which make offenses easier for them to commit. I would recommend contacting WINGS for private and confidential advice on the direction to go on this. Scott Ross, who is well known and respected here, is the Admin of WINGS. I am sure you will get some good feedback and help from him. www.wingsfortruth.info/contactus.htmMain page: www.wingsfortruth.info/index.htm |
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Post by taswegian on Jun 24, 2012 17:18:20 GMT -5
Nothing special about me... 3 other lots have people have confirmed receivign the letter from the workers...
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Post by to TAS GIRL on Jun 24, 2012 17:45:11 GMT -5
Sounds like you were being "groomed" by this worker - wonder how many other girls he has done this to?
Clearday has suggested you send the Admins at WingsBTS a private message - can I urge you to do the same.
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2012 19:51:18 GMT -5
A senior worker that was in Tasmania and Victoria, stayed in my parents home. We were going to a mission that was an hour away. He insisted in riding in the back of the car with my sister and I. My father had asked him several times that he should sit in the front and my mother would sit in the back with my sister and I. On the way to the mission he touched my leg several times, even though I moved away he kept doing it. On the way home he continued to do it. I felt very confused as I was a teenage girl and had feelings. He never did it to my sister, she had a bigger voice than me. As I know now, they know which victim to pray on . This same man was in the work with the other VIC worker than has been convicted. He used to stand outside my sister and my bedroom door late after my parents went to bed. I can only thank my sister, and her big voice that protected me from him. He is still a senior worker in the work today! I am too scared to ever contact anyone about this, but I thought posting on here is a start. I have only recently told my parents of this, who are still professing. And they are livid! Dear TAS GIRL, This is a very serious matter. I am sorry for what you suffered. It is a disgrace. The reason that you need to report what happened to you is because this man is still free and at large as a Worker in the states where you live. Because of the unusual nature of being a Worker, this man who will be living in the homes of Friends will continue to have access to children and goodness knows how many he may yet do the same as what he did to you and perhaps far worse, if he is not exposed and stopped. You can remain completely anonymous and make a report either over at Wings or to me here (you will need to register with an anonymous account and send me a PM with the name of this predator Worker). I guarantee you will remain anonymous. There are senior Workers who will take very seriously your claim and this man will be exposed and removed from the Work in a twinkling. Thank you for your courage, it is the bravery of you victims which will stop this rot. admin PS the unequivocal policy of TMB is as stated "Personal information of registered members will never be divulged to third parties by the admin team. In particular, workers have no access to personal details." You can be completely assured of your privacy and that your name will never be revealed (nor do you need to provide it). This protection does not apply to the names of any alleged perpetrators of child abuse. Protection of children is our highest priority. |
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Post by Ju on Jun 24, 2012 19:53:20 GMT -5
TAS GIRL, I shudder at your experience, how horrible for you. Thank goodness you had a big sister to look out for you. Sorry also to hear he continues in the work... I wonder how many people are at risk?
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Post by TAS GIRL on Jun 24, 2012 21:36:53 GMT -5
A senior worker that was in Tasmania and Victoria, stayed in my parents home. We were going to a mission that was an hour away. He insisted in riding in the back of the car with my sister and I. My father had asked him several times that he should sit in the front and my mother would sit in the back with my sister and I. On the way to the mission he touched my leg several times, even though I moved away he kept doing it. On the way home he continued to do it. I felt very confused as I was a teenage girl and had feelings. He never did it to my sister, she had a bigger voice than me. As I know now, they know which victim to pray on . This same man was in the work with the other VIC worker than has been convicted. He used to stand outside my sister and my bedroom door late after my parents went to bed. I can only thank my sister, and her big voice that protected me from him. He is still a senior worker in the work today! I am too scared to ever contact anyone about this, but I thought posting on here is a start. I have only recently told my parents of this, who are still professing. And they are livid! Many years later I contacted this same worker, by letter as he used to write to me constantly. Strangely he never used to write to my sister. I discussed with him that where I was attending my sunday morning meetings and wednesday night meetings, an elder was trying to touch me inappropriately. As I had moved out of home and was living away from my family to start in the work force. I was an easy target. He wrote back saying that I had brought shame on myself and god's kingdom for even suggesting that it had happened and that I was to blame and a liar, because I didn't have the right spirit. I became so desperate to escape the whole meetings and abuse that I met a older man who did not go to meetings and had a relationship with him as an excuse to escape. He abused me further. I am just getting my life back on track but am very fearful of the friends and the workers. I am scared that if I report this, this worker will know who has reported it and am afraid of the repercussions. I sadly destroyed a lot of the letters that he wrote to me as they were a reminder of HELL I told one of the female friends at the time about the Elder in the meeting and was told, "Yes he can be a bit like that you just have to avoid his hands." This man has now passed away, so justice will never be done |
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Post by TAS GIRL on Jun 24, 2012 21:56:20 GMT -5
Many years later, the worker came to visit my parents, in which I happened to be there at the same time with my child. He picked up my child with out my consent and rubbed his face in the childs chest and stomach. My child struggled to get down as it was quite clearly uncomfortable. Due to being in my parents house and the fact that they were still professing, and pass history with this worker I was scared to say put down my child in case I was out of line. My mother knew that it was wrong and I think she had said put down the child, not sure but he did. My mother was furious as well as myself. I was shaking and angry. My mother had told my father that what he had done and that she did not want him back in the home. He seemed aggressive that day and highly strung. My mother felt very intimidated as well.
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Post by Ju on Jun 24, 2012 22:15:45 GMT -5
TAS GIRL sadly you are not alone in your experiences. I have found WINGS staff and the discussion board wingsbts.proboards.com/index.cgi? to be really helpful. Through this board I have met a group of people who are supportive and understanding. Amazing how years later these experiences come back to us with such clarity. There are no excuses for behaviour of this nature and innocent children must be protected. |
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2012 22:19:25 GMT -5
Many years later, the worker came to visit my parents, in which I happened to be there at the same time with my child. He picked up my child with out my consent and rubbed his face in the childs chest and stomach. My child struggled to get down as it was quite clearly uncomfortable. Due to being in my parents house and the fact that they were still professing, and pass history with this worker I was scared to say put down my child in case I was out of line. My mother knew that it was wrong and I think she had said put down the child, not sure but he did. My mother was furious as well as myself. I was shaking and angry. My mother had told my father that what he had done and that she did not want him back in the home. He seemed aggressive that day and highly strung. My mother felt very intimidated as well. TAS GIRL, You need to report this man. From your account, he is an ongoing threat to children. We need to protect them as far as we are able. As I have said above, your name can be completely protected and you need not fear this alleged perpetrator because once you report him, you will be completely safe and protected by the law, by the weight of people who will support you, and I believe by God himself. admin |
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Post by TAS GIRL on Jun 24, 2012 22:35:42 GMT -5
okay thanks for listening to me. It has been very hard. I have told my mother and she has also said that if I want to I should report it. What will happen to this worker, I am very scared. Sick to my stomach in having the courage to even do this? If I give this workers name confidentially, can I be protected and my parents? Will they remain anonymous. How can I contact the appropriate source? I am a guest on this board.
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Post by TAS GIRL on Jun 24, 2012 22:38:12 GMT -5
I don't want to go to court. My nerves could never stand it. If I reveal who this is, will that happen?
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Post by TAS GIRL on Jun 24, 2012 22:39:51 GMT -5
What if he denies it? What then??  |
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2012 22:43:53 GMT -5
Hi TAS GIRL,
You will need to register on TMB with an anonymous account and send me a PM (personal message, sent to admin) with the name of this worker.
I understand your nervousness and care for your parents. I can only promise you that I will fully respect that and do this in a way that you and your family will not be known or suffer any consequences.
I do believe that I know the people who will be able to fully protect you and your family.
The intention is that the worker will be removed from his position in the ministry which enables him opportunity to molest and terrorize other children until someone stops him.
Ideally, child molesters should be reported to police but I appreciate that sometimes that step is not possible or just too scary.
You have my word.
admin
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Post by Ju on Jun 24, 2012 23:06:07 GMT -5
TAS GIRL I encourage you to follow Admins advice. If you do not feel you can register then perhaps email Scott Ross, he posted on page one of this thread and had his email at the bottom of his message.
bescottross@aol.com
Congratulations on posting here, that must be a huge step for you. Take one day at a time and one step at a time. Maybe the next step is making contact with people who can support you as mentioned here.
So nice to know you have a Mum who will support you in your decisions.
Ju
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2012 23:16:42 GMT -5
I don't want to go to court. My nerves could never stand it. If I reveal who this is, will that happen? Dear TAS GIRL, The decision about whether to report him to police is entirely in your hands. There is no pressure. It sounds to me like you are not ready for that step at the moment. So we need to work in other ways. Scott on here has the contacts that can protect children in professing homes in Vic & Tas from this man in the future. I believe that this should be our aim right at this moment. And again, thank you for your courage and bravery. admin  |
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Post by mangochango on Jun 24, 2012 23:32:39 GMT -5
Dear Tas Girl...my heart goes out to you in a very special way having just faced exposing a violator. Please know that Scott Ross will do everything he can to help you and so will I. There are people with whom you can be put in touch with down under who will support and care for you. If you want to write my addy is mangochango7@gmail.com ...much care & concern
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Post by emmarr75 on Jun 25, 2012 0:26:15 GMT -5
Dear TAs GIRL
My heart also goes out to you and your family. It's a scary place when you are intimidated into silence by this worker. But by speaking out you are beginning to take the first steps towards your own journey of recovery and healing.
You can contact authorities such as police and Department of Human Service to make a report - big steps - but remember they have training and experience to handle the situation should you become emotional (and understandably so). They also have really good contacts with counseling services to help you in your recovery. You do not need to go any further than making the report - and can ask for advice before making the rest about how anonymous it can be.
I would also encourage you to contact Scott Ross for further contact details of friends in Vic/Tas who have had experience in supporting other victims As they can provide you with further ongoing support.
My prayers are with you and your family
Emma
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Post by Ju on Jun 25, 2012 0:35:16 GMT -5
TAS GIRL Emma has given some good advice... if you are in Tasmania this is a good point of contact, free and confidential...
24/7 Response and Counselling Line
SASS provides a 24/7 phone support and counselling service to people of all genders and ages who have been sexually abused at any time of their lives; the parents or carers of children who have been abused; the partners of people who have been abused, and professionals who are assisting people who have experienced sexual abuse.
This service can be used by people who have never before accessed a SASS service or by current or past clients. People can access this service directly on 6231 1817 (24/7) or be referred by other services
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2012 3:03:33 GMT -5
I don't want to go to court. My nerves could never stand it. If I reveal who this is, will that happen? Tas Girl my heart goes out to you. Please follow the advice given to you by others here. It seems to me that you are in dire need of help and support. I know it is a massive hurdle to bring these things out into the open and each step seems like there's a ten foot wall in your path. However once you start to speak to professional people you will feel a huge weight being lifted from your shoulders. Do not think too far ahead, about what "he" will think and do, your standing in the church, court cases etc. Just take one step at a time. You have already stepped out courageously here. Let me assure you that you have nothing to fear in going to the authorities and/or seeking professional help. They are there to help you. They are there to listen to you, to believe you and understand you. Consulting the authorities does not necessarily mean that you will have to officially report the matter, ie start an investigation, attend court etc. They will do what is right by you. In short they want to help you. Please take the next step soon and try and not worry about it. You will find you are surrounded by "friends" who understand and care and will likely say to yourself "I wish I had done this sooner." This man is a predator that clearly has you living in fear. This position needs reversed quickly. Please follow Admin's advice on disclosing who this is to either him or Scott. |
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Post by watson on Jun 25, 2012 5:51:23 GMT -5
This same man was in the work with the other VIC worker than has been convicted. He used to stand outside my sister and my bedroom door late after my parents went to bed. I can only thank my sister, and her big voice that protected me from him. He is still a senior worker in the work today! I am too scared to ever contact anyone about this, but I thought posting on here is a start. I have only recently told my parents of this, who are still professing. And they are livid! So who was a companion of EB presumably in Tas and when? |
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Post by spiders on Jun 25, 2012 6:40:37 GMT -5
This same man was in the work with the other VIC worker than has been convicted. He used to stand outside my sister and my bedroom door late after my parents went to bed. I can only thank my sister, and her big voice that protected me from him. He is still a senior worker in the work today! I am too scared to ever contact anyone about this, but I thought posting on here is a start. I have only recently told my parents of this, who are still professing. And they are livid! So who was a companion of EB presumably in Tas and when? This is a case for Detective A. Mouse ;D |
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Post by spiders on Jun 25, 2012 6:50:29 GMT -5
Eeeek. What happened to my post. Its super-imposed itself on yours Spiders. Ok Daddy-long-legs, I have seen no letter. Obviously not old enough!!!!! So Spiders (I know I shouldnt presume, but I presume you are a man), if you know someone who got a letter why couldnt you have a leetle look. Was she an old auntie. Not sure if the traps are scarier or that Kitteecat Not sure how you did that Mousey girl How do you know I am a Daddy-long-legs......I might be a more dangerous variety. Are you a friendly Field Mouse or one of those little critters that bite The person who I am told got the letter lives a long way from me and is not an old Auntie, so I cannot take a leetle peek ;D |
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Post by watson on Jun 25, 2012 6:59:50 GMT -5
EB was in Tassie in '96, anybody got an old worker's list?
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Post by taswegian on Jun 25, 2012 7:12:17 GMT -5
1996 North West Coast EB CP
1997 Launceston EB GC- GC no longer in work
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Post by jimmy on Jun 25, 2012 8:11:39 GMT -5
Your courage to post here Tas Girl is to be commended. I wish you well in your journey forward. I would also urge you to at least identify to someone who your abuser was as it may well save another person suffering as you had.
I do hope David continues to be proactive in dealing with these issues as Victoria sure needs some quality leadership.
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Post by TAS GIRL on Jun 25, 2012 21:03:27 GMT -5
I would appreciate it if people on this board would stop the search for who they think it is. Let me deal with it the right way, without the board deciding and starting rumor! I am contacting Scott Ross, with who it is. I feel the damage has been done. I do not want this man to go to court. Being removed from the work is enough punishment. I feel very pressure and scared so just let me take it one day at a time please. |
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Post by TAS GIRL on Jun 25, 2012 21:09:12 GMT -5
I DO not want to contact the police or authorities or take anyone to court. I just want to know that it will never happen to anyone again. I have had professional help and I have come as far as I can. I just need people to understand and not judge. Because of this I have many issues with the friends and some of my family. At the end of the day I know that they would be there for me. So thank you people for the positive advice, but I must do the right thing now. I don't feel bitter just feel nothing.
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Post by Admin on Jun 25, 2012 21:19:55 GMT -5
I just want to know that it will never happen to anyone again. I have had professional help and I have come as far as I can. Thank you, TAS GIRL. These are the two most important issues, your well-being and healing (and having professional help is so important and excellent to hear), and doing all we can together to ensure that it will never happen again to another child. Being removed from the work is enough punishment. I feel very pressure and scared so just let me take it one day at a time please. With Scott, I will work to ensure that your wishes are what happens. Also you will be completely safe, I assure you. God bless, you brave person! admin |
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A senior worker that was in Tasmania and Victoria, stayed in my parents home. We were going to a mission that was an hour away. He insisted in riding in the back of the car with my sister and I. My father had asked him several times that he should sit in the front and my mother would sit in the back with my sister and I. On the way to the mission he touched my leg several times, even though I moved away he kept doing it. On the way home he continued to do it. I felt very confused as I was a teenage girl and had feelings. He never did it to my sister, she had a bigger voice than me. As I know now, they know which victim to pray on . This same man was in the work with the other VIC worker than has been convicted. He used to stand outside my sister and my bedroom door late after my parents went to bed. I can only thank my sister, and her big voice that protected me from him. He is still a senior worker in the work today! I am too scared to ever contact anyone about this, but I thought posting on here is a start. I have only recently told my parents of this, who are still professing. And they are livid!
