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Post by snow on Jun 18, 2023 13:20:15 GMT -5
Woodstock 2023 - the final actJonathan Freeburn has now responded: Dear Bob and Stacy, Thanks for your email. We have been thinking a lot about the convention also. I think you are right about your first point; we have already asked any people with allegations against them in the past to not come to the convention. Even with that, we really think that it will be difficult to have the meetings there at your place without causing some kind of distress or conflict. We feel like we can’t really be sure to arrange the meetings there in a way that makes you feel at ease. As well, there are others who usually come there for convention, but they don’t feel comfortable coming. I don’t think it is right for you to have to leave during the time that we are there, and I would not want to have invited someone there causing you to feel like your principles have been violated This situation has put many in bondage, so we have looked into getting a neutral location in a hall near Fredericton where we can have the meetings. There is a hall which is available from Friday to Sunday. There is room and facilities to have the meetings there. All things considered, it seems best for this year. We do hope that we can have a profitable time together, and that you will feel free to be there also. All the best, and hope to see you in a couple of weeks. If something happens on their property, are they liable? If for no other reason than that, the workers should be on board with the conditions. Of course they should be on board with not allowing predators too, but I guess that's not on there radar since now they can still attend the convention in the hall. The line where they say 'I don't think it is right for you to have to leave during the time that we are there' just blew my mind! The audacity of them even considering telling them to leave their home while the workers allowed predators on their property reaches a whole new level of arrogance imo. Thankfully they declined from asking that of them but they thought it and made sure Bob and Stacy knew just how 'accommodating' the workers were in respecting their right to stay on their property. They show their arrogance over and over and I have to wonder if they even know just how they come across when they are speaking so condescendingly to people. Probably think they are being sooo holy and humble for not making them leave. It's truly unbelievable behavior.
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Post by snow on Jun 18, 2023 13:28:21 GMT -5
Dale's attitude is so anti-Christ! Matthew 20:24 When the ten heard it, they were angry with the two brothers. 25 But Jesus called them to him and said, “You know that the rulers of the gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones are tyrants over them. 26 It will not be so among you, but whoever wishes to be great among you must be your servant, 27 and whoever wishes to be first among you must be your slave, 28 just as the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve and to give his life a ransom for many.” Dale's attitude is pro-Dale. That's it. Nothing more. He loves going into a situation to come out of it looking like the hero who saved the day where everyone will admire him and comment on his effectiveness, and he doesn't care one bit who he hurts along the way. A total control freak. But the tides are turning, Dale! They're pulling the rug out from under you, and all the dirt you've swept under the rug is being revealed, piece by piece. Isn't he the one that said that the friends needed to obey the workers even if the workers might not be right, because they had to show respect for them? The Alberta fiasco letter I believe he said something like that.
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Post by fixit on Jun 18, 2023 14:17:40 GMT -5
Dale's attitude is pro-Dale. That's it. Nothing more. He loves going into a situation to come out of it looking like the hero who saved the day where everyone will admire him and comment on his effectiveness, and he doesn't care one bit who he hurts along the way. A total control freak. But the tides are turning, Dale! They're pulling the rug out from under you, and all the dirt you've swept under the rug is being revealed, piece by piece. Isn't he the one that said that the friends needed to obey the workers even if the workers might not be right, because they had to show respect for them? The Alberta fiasco letter I believe he said something like that. Yes, he was bringing God into subjection to the overseer hierarchy over a quarter century ago... We also know that a point could be reached in these different relationships in which submission is generally expected where, because of some deep conviction before God, we would feel that we could not submit to something that is being asked of us. www.tellingthetruth.info/workers_later/shultz-AB.php
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 19, 2023 17:02:30 GMT -5
Woodstock 2023 - the final actJonathan Freeburn has now responded: Dear Bob and Stacy, Thanks for your email. We have been thinking a lot about the convention also. I think you are right about your first point; we have already asked any people with allegations against them in the past to not come to the convention. Even with that, we really think that it will be difficult to have the meetings there at your place without causing some kind of distress or conflict. We feel like we can’t really be sure to arrange the meetings there in a way that makes you feel at ease. As well, there are others who usually come there for convention, but they don’t feel comfortable coming. I don’t think it is right for you to have to leave during the time that we are there, and I would not want to have invited someone there causing you to feel like your principles have been violated This situation has put many in bondage, so we have looked into getting a neutral location in a hall near Fredericton where we can have the meetings. There is a hall which is available from Friday to Sunday. There is room and facilities to have the meetings there. All things considered, it seems best for this year. We do hope that we can have a profitable time together, and that you will feel free to be there also. All the best, and hope to see you in a couple of weeks. If something happens on their property, are they liable? If for no other reason than that, the workers should be on board with the conditions. Of course they should be on board with not allowing predators too, but I guess that's not on there radar since now they can still attend the convention in the hall. The line where they say 'I don't think it is right for you to have to leave during the time that we are there' just blew my mind! The audacity of them even considering telling them to leave their home while the workers allowed predators on their property reaches a whole new level of arrogance imo. Thankfully they declined from asking that of them but they thought it and made sure Bob and Stacy knew just how 'accommodating' the workers were in respecting their right to stay on their property. They show their arrogance over and over and I have to wonder if they even know just how they come across when they are speaking so condescendingly to people. Probably think they are being sooo holy and humble for not making them leave. It's truly unbelievable behavior. The owners of the property are responsible for the safety of individuals on their property. They can be sued for accidents that happen like someone who falls down a stairway where there is no handrail. The property owner can sue guests that destroy property when they are there. The law considers convention attendees the guests of the property owner, and property owner responsibilities apply. In a rented facility, the owners may sue the individuals (workers) responsible for the rental, for any damages incurred by any of the attendees.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 19, 2023 18:00:19 GMT -5
Dale's attitude is pro-Dale. That's it. Nothing more. He loves going into a situation to come out of it looking like the hero who saved the day where everyone will admire him and comment on his effectiveness, and he doesn't care one bit who he hurts along the way. A total control freak. But the tides are turning, Dale! They're pulling the rug out from under you, and all the dirt you've swept under the rug is being revealed, piece by piece. Isn't he the one that said that the friends needed to obey the workers even if the workers might not be right, because they had to show respect for them? The Alberta fiasco letter I believe he said something like that. He's the one.
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Post by kaitlinjanern on Jul 2, 2023 12:01:19 GMT -5
I hope they get this message! Wish one could support them in more concrete way's, but how? Loved that there are still people wanting to live on our true cornerstone of Jesus and the Word regardless of what people think. I too am slandered to this day for leaving a marriage that was abusive and yet I’m the one off of the deepend. I could care less about my name or reputation because now I have full confidence in Who I stand with. Blessings to you all. I believe God cares and will begin separating tares and wheat.
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Post by ForeverFree on Jul 2, 2023 14:07:19 GMT -5
Dale's attitude is pro-Dale. That's it. Nothing more. He loves going into a situation to come out of it looking like the hero who saved the day where everyone will admire him and comment on his effectiveness, and he doesn't care one bit who he hurts along the way. A total control freak. But the tides are turning, Dale! They're pulling the rug out from under you, and all the dirt you've swept under the rug is being revealed, piece by piece. Isn't he the one that said that the friends needed to obey the workers even if the workers might not be right, because they had to show respect for them? The Alberta fiasco letter I believe he said something like that. Dale Shultz still seems to be trying to stay under the radar about how he harbored, smuggled and protected sexual abuse offenders across North America. Keeping quiet makes him look even more guilty; like he has something to hide. Personally, I think he's living in fear in the Canadian Maritimes; probably panics with every knock at the door, every unrecognized phone call and dreads opening his email.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Jul 2, 2023 15:50:06 GMT -5
His is hiding but email still arrives . Didsbury convention starts soon ! Duck , in coming messages ! I have known him for years . No mercy granted . Yes he is the one who made families break up in THE ALBERTA PROBLEM ! However I meet with my detectives tomorrow …..
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Post by ForeverFree on Jul 29, 2023 17:56:43 GMT -5
Isn't he the one that said that the friends needed to obey the workers even if the workers might not be right, because they had to show respect for them? The Alberta fiasco letter I believe he said something like that. Dale Shultz still seems to be trying to stay under the radar about how he harbored, smuggled and protected sexual abuse offenders across North America. Keeping quiet makes him look even more guilty; like he has something to hide. Personally, I think he's living in fear in the Canadian Maritimes; probably panics with every knock at the door, every unrecognized phone call and dreads opening his email. Hymn 401 version for Dale Shultz: Lift thy head, the day draws near When the Mounties shall appear; Let thy heart be filled with fear, Ready, watching, praying.
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Post by ForeverFree on Jul 30, 2023 13:13:32 GMT -5
Maybe CTV W5 or CBC Investigates would be interested in interviewing Dale Shultz on how he shuffled pedophiles and abusers around the country and across the border to hide his dirty little secrets.
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Post by snow on Jul 30, 2023 14:16:35 GMT -5
Maybe CTV W5 or CBC Investigates would be interested in interviewing Dale Shultz on how he shuffled pedophiles and abusers around the country and across the border to hide his dirty little secrets. I think the only way he will be held accountable is for a class action suit against him for enabling pedophiles and other abusers in the church.
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Post by ForeverFree on Jul 31, 2023 19:22:56 GMT -5
Matthew 25:40 Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
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Post by SharonArnold on Jul 31, 2023 20:14:11 GMT -5
Matthew 25:40 Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Oh, yeah.
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Post by ForeverFree on Aug 6, 2023 0:41:54 GMT -5
As I read through posts here and on AFT, a hymn keeps coming to mind. It's a hymn the workers and friends have sung hundreds of times I'm sure.
Live for others every day: Be a blessing while you may, Ever loving, kind and true, Jesus-like in all you do.
How many times has Dale Shultz sang this hymn, really thinking about the words having meaning in his own life?
Live for others every day - He only lives for himself and the image of power bestowed on him by worker worshippers. Be a blessing while you may - You would think this one would mean something to him, especially lately. "While you may"... He may not have a lot of chances for a whole lot longer. He's an old man headed for the grave and if the law catches up with him first, how many will be seeing him as a blessing behind bars? Ever loving, kind and true - Nope! He's a control freak who thinks he is untouchable and will excommunicate you or even physically assault you if you cross him, but will hide your filthy, dirty secrets if you bow down to him. Jesus-like in all you do - Again... Nope! Did Jesus have child molesters as his disciples and move them city to city each time he found out what they were doing, but kept it hush hush to save his own image?
Dale Shultz needs to be publicly exposed and has got to go. He is not a godly man; he is evil.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
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Post by snow on Aug 6, 2023 13:26:12 GMT -5
As I read through posts here and on AFT, a hymn keeps coming to mind. It's a hymn the workers and friends have sung hundreds of times I'm sure. Live for others every day: Be a blessing while you may, Ever loving, kind and true, Jesus-like in all you do.How many times has Dale Shultz sang this hymn, really thinking about the words having meaning in his own life? Live for others every day - He only lives for himself and the image of power bestowed on him by worker worshippers. Be a blessing while you may - You would think this one would mean something to him, especially lately. "While you may"... He may not have a lot of chances for a whole lot longer. He's an old man headed for the grave and if the law catches up with him first, how many will be seeing him as a blessing behind bars? Ever loving, kind and true - Nope! He's a control freak who thinks he is untouchable and will excommunicate you or even physically assault you if you cross him, but will hide your filthy, dirty secrets if you bow down to him. Jesus-like in all you do - Again... Nope! Did Jesus have child molesters as his disciples and move them city to city each time he found out what they were doing, but kept it hush hush to save his own image? Dale Shultz needs to be publicly exposed and has got to go. He is not a godly man; he is evil. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. I really have to wonder why he hasn't been forced to step down along with Barkley and Hoffman on the east coast. Also Affleck and other overseers on the west coast that have really mishandled predators.
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Post by fixit on Aug 6, 2023 14:03:16 GMT -5
I really have to wonder why he hasn't been forced to step down along with Barkley and Hoffman on the east coast. Also Affleck and other overseers on the west coast that have really mishandled predators. Has any worker anywhere disagreed with Dale Shultz's letter to "the concerned ones" over the disgusting behavior of the Western Alliance ministry a quarter century ago? www.tellingthetruth.info/workers_later/shultz-AB.phpWhen the hierarchy puts itself above an individual's "deep conviction before God" it's deeply troubling. If an individual's "deep conviction before God" is not encouraged, and instead people are forced to follow Shultz and Barkley and Hoffman like lemmings, it will come to grief.
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Post by SharonArnold on Aug 6, 2023 14:41:39 GMT -5
I really have to wonder why he hasn't been forced to step down along with Barkley and Hoffman on the east coast. Also Affleck and other overseers on the west coast that have really mishandled predators. Has any worker anywhere disagreed with Dale Shultz's letter to "the concerned ones" over the disgusting behavior of the Western Alliance ministry a quarter century ago? www.tellingthetruth.info/workers_later/shultz-AB.phpWhen the hierarchy puts itself above an individual's "deep conviction before God" it's deeply troubling. If an individual's "deep conviction before God" is not encouraged, and instead people are forced to follow Shultz and Barkley and Hoffman like lemmings, it will come to grief. It has already come to grief. Hasn't it? Anybody who doesn't know this yet is not paying attention.
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Post by fixit on Aug 6, 2023 15:28:18 GMT -5
Has any worker anywhere disagreed with Dale Shultz's letter to "the concerned ones" over the disgusting behavior of the Western Alliance ministry a quarter century ago? www.tellingthetruth.info/workers_later/shultz-AB.phpWhen the hierarchy puts itself above an individual's "deep conviction before God" it's deeply troubling. If an individual's "deep conviction before God" is not encouraged, and instead people are forced to follow Shultz and Barkley and Hoffman like lemmings, it will come to grief. It has already come to grief. Hasn't it? Anybody who doesn't know this yet is not paying attention. I almost added that, but it seemed like stating the obvious. Spiritual leaders should encourage people to get for themselves "deep conviction before God". Isn't that what prayer is about? If our calling is to simply follow Shultz and Barkley and Hoffman no matter what, does that leave any roon for a personal relationship with God? These are fundamental questions that need to be answered.
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Post by snow on Aug 6, 2023 15:44:23 GMT -5
I really have to wonder why he hasn't been forced to step down along with Barkley and Hoffman on the east coast. Also Affleck and other overseers on the west coast that have really mishandled predators. Has any worker anywhere disagreed with Dale Shultz's letter to "the concerned ones" over the disgusting behavior of the Western Alliance ministry a quarter century ago? www.tellingthetruth.info/workers_later/shultz-AB.phpWhen the hierarchy puts itself above an individual's "deep conviction before God" it's deeply troubling. If an individual's "deep conviction before God" is not encouraged, and instead people are forced to follow Shultz and Barkley and Hoffman like lemmings, it will come to grief. Good point. He wrote that and I don't see where many of the workers disagreed with him. The friends and workers that did got excommunicated. I remember reading about the worker Meg Magowan (sp?) getting kicked out because she refused to not visit the excommunicated friends. That seems to be the fate of those who disagreed vocally and in action against what Dale Shultz dictates.
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Post by SharonArnold on Aug 6, 2023 16:26:13 GMT -5
It has already come to grief. Hasn't it? Anybody who doesn't know this yet is not paying attention. I almost added that, but it seemed like stating the obvious. Spiritual leaders should encourage people to get for themselves "deep conviction before God". Isn't that what prayer is about? If our calling is to simply follow Shultz and Barkley and Hoffman no matter what, does that leave any roon for a personal relationship with God? These are fundamental questions that need to be answered. IMO, there is NOTHING else that matters more than your "deep conviction before God". It precisely encapsulates why I am no longer a member. I would take that one step further. In my exiting years, I would frequently express "I would defy God himself, if I thought he was wrong." Which, of course, is absurd. But it expressed how deeply committed I am to Truth (whatever that is). Damn the consequences. I still stand solidly there. No regrets. None.
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Post by SharonArnold on Aug 6, 2023 18:40:07 GMT -5
As I read through posts here and on AFT, a hymn keeps coming to mind. It's a hymn the workers and friends have sung hundreds of times I'm sure. Live for others every day: Be a blessing while you may, Ever loving, kind and true, Jesus-like in all you do.How many times has Dale Shultz sang this hymn, really thinking about the words having meaning in his own life? Live for others every day - He only lives for himself and the image of power bestowed on him by worker worshippers. Be a blessing while you may - You would think this one would mean something to him, especially lately. "While you may"... He may not have a lot of chances for a whole lot longer. He's an old man headed for the grave and if the law catches up with him first, how many will be seeing him as a blessing behind bars? Ever loving, kind and true - Nope! He's a control freak who thinks he is untouchable and will excommunicate you or even physically assault you if you cross him, but will hide your filthy, dirty secrets if you bow down to him. Jesus-like in all you do - Again... Nope! Did Jesus have child molesters as his disciples and move them city to city each time he found out what they were doing, but kept it hush hush to save his own image? Dale Shultz needs to be publicly exposed and has got to go. He is not a godly man; he is evil. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. I spend a lot more time than you might ever imagine, thinking about the stuff you post. I don't know how old Dale Shultz is, relative to me, probably in his 80's now? But, yes, anyway you look at it, God is coming for him soon. My earliest memories of Dale - at Antler convention. I would have been young - less than 10 yo? - and he would have been a relatively young worker. Still, he had the kinky red hair, and the four-sided Cheshire cat grin. At the very end of convention, he would publicly acknowledge and thank Don and Betty for the use of their farm. As a very young and earnest 2X2, I would squirm and feel embarrassed for them, because I was well-schooled in the not-letting-your-left-hand-know-what-your-right-hand-was-doing doctrine. That is, you did stuff, maybe even lotsa stuff, but you didn't ever want recognition or acknowledgement for any of it. God knew, and that was all that mattered. I was never able to reconcile this within my young 2X2 mind. A couple of decades later, Dale was a frequent guest in my home. He was a good guest. Very considerate. He was ascetic, in terms of our personal resources, aptly now defined by Google as "a person who practices great self-denial and austerities and abstains from worldly comforts and pleasures, esp for religious reasons". I won't get into the particulars, but this was Dale. He had a young companion for at least one of these years, whose personal qualities, I greatly liked, admired. This companion was probably responsible for me spending at least a couple more years within 2X2ism, than I might otherwise have done, such was my respect for him. I was witness to this young companion being disciplined by Dale. This young companion obviously did not last long in the work. Now, I have never heard the slightest whisper of impropriety by Dale in regards to conduct towards any other human being in a personal sense. So I am left wondering WHY. WHY? WHY would he ever cover for misconduct and wrongdoing by others, which he so clearly has done. WHY? If he was a predator, covering for other predators, it would make sense, but that does not seem to be the case. Is the image of the Church so important to him, that he would excuse wrongdoing in order to protect it? Why would he ever imagine that God would be okay with that? Or??? Still wondering. Still scratching my head.
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Post by fixit on Aug 6, 2023 18:40:29 GMT -5
I almost added that, but it seemed like stating the obvious. Spiritual leaders should encourage people to get for themselves "deep conviction before God". Isn't that what prayer is about? If our calling is to simply follow Shultz and Barkley and Hoffman no matter what, does that leave any roon for a personal relationship with God? These are fundamental questions that need to be answered. IMO, there is NOTHING else that matters more than your "deep conviction before God". It precisely encapsulates why I am no longer a member. I would take that one step further. In my exiting years, I would frequently express "I would defy God himself, if I thought he was wrong." Which, of course, is absurd. But it expressed how deeply committed I am to Truth (whatever that is). Damn the consequences. I still stand solidly there. No regrets. None. We are called to defy "God himself" in the sense that man is continually dishing up to us varying perceptions of God and his will. Our "deep conviction before God" is much more trustworthy than man's perception of God and the demands of narcissistic men.
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Post by fixit on Aug 6, 2023 18:46:45 GMT -5
Now, I have never heard the slightest whisper of impropriety by Dale in regards to conduct towards any other human being in a personal sense. So I am left wondering WHY. WHY? WHY would he ever cover for misconduct and wrongdoing by others, which he so clearly has done. WHY? If he was a predator, covering for other predators, it would make sense, but that does not seem to be the case. Is the image of the Church so important to him, that he would excuse wrongdoing in order to protect it? Why would he ever imagine that God would be okay with that? Or??? Still wondering. Still scratching my head. It seems that the higher up the hierarchy they climb the more political they become. CSA splits families and communities, while overseers are focused on preserving unity. It's a conflict of interest.
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Post by SharonArnold on Aug 6, 2023 18:58:41 GMT -5
Now, I have never heard the slightest whisper of impropriety by Dale in regards to conduct towards any other human being in a personal sense. So I am left wondering WHY. WHY? WHY would he ever cover for misconduct and wrongdoing by others, which he so clearly has done. WHY? If he was a predator, covering for other predators, it would make sense, but that does not seem to be the case. Is the image of the Church so important to him, that he would excuse wrongdoing in order to protect it? Why would he ever imagine that God would be okay with that? Or??? Still wondering. Still scratching my head. It seems that the higher up the hierarchy they climb the more political they become. CSA splits families and communities, while overseers are focused on preserving unity. It's a conflict of interest. Preserving unity, or preserving control?
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Post by fixit on Aug 6, 2023 20:22:58 GMT -5
It seems that the higher up the hierarchy they climb the more political they become. CSA splits families and communities, while overseers are focused on preserving unity. It's a conflict of interest. Preserving unity, or preserving control? You're probably right, it's about control. Any leader of an organisation has to maintain control. That's their job. And Dale was good at it.
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Post by Dan on Aug 6, 2023 20:51:59 GMT -5
IMO, there is NOTHING else that matters more than your "deep conviction before God". It precisely encapsulates why I am no longer a member. I would take that one step further. In my exiting years, I would frequently express "I would defy God himself, if I thought he was wrong." Which, of course, is absurd. But it expressed how deeply committed I am to Truth (whatever that is). Damn the consequences. I still stand solidly there. No regrets. None.
I don't get that? The embolden sounds like something Satan would say? Do you still feel that way? It seems to contradict your first sentence.
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Post by SharonArnold on Aug 6, 2023 22:28:14 GMT -5
IMO, there is NOTHING else that matters more than your "deep conviction before God". It precisely encapsulates why I am no longer a member. I would take that one step further. In my exiting years, I would frequently express "I would defy God himself, if I thought he was wrong." Which, of course, is absurd. But it expressed how deeply committed I am to Truth (whatever that is). Damn the consequences. I still stand solidly there. No regrets. None.I don't get that? The embolden sounds like something Satan would say? Do you still feel that way? It seems to contradict your first sentence. No, don't overthink it, it's not that deep (or clear). I was simply expressing my opinion (a little hyperbolically) about the importance of one's personal conviction and commitment to doing the right thing, regardless of anyone else's opinion. Read fixit's reply to this, he gets precisely what I mean: We are called to defy "God himself" in the sense that man is continually dishing up to us varying perceptions of God and his will. Our "deep conviction before God" is much more trustworthy than man's perception of God and the demands of narcissistic men.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 8, 2023 0:36:28 GMT -5
As I read through posts here and on AFT, a hymn keeps coming to mind. It's a hymn the workers and friends have sung hundreds of times I'm sure. Live for others every day: Be a blessing while you may, Ever loving, kind and true, Jesus-like in all you do.How many times has Dale Shultz sang this hymn, really thinking about the words having meaning in his own life? Live for others every day - He only lives for himself and the image of power bestowed on him by worker worshippers. Be a blessing while you may - You would think this one would mean something to him, especially lately. "While you may"... He may not have a lot of chances for a whole lot longer. He's an old man headed for the grave and if the law catches up with him first, how many will be seeing him as a blessing behind bars? Ever loving, kind and true - Nope! He's a control freak who thinks he is untouchable and will excommunicate you or even physically assault you if you cross him, but will hide your filthy, dirty secrets if you bow down to him. Jesus-like in all you do - Again... Nope! Did Jesus have child molesters as his disciples and move them city to city each time he found out what they were doing, but kept it hush hush to save his own image? Dale Shultz needs to be publicly exposed and has got to go. He is not a godly man; he is evil. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. I really have to wonder why he hasn't been forced to step down along with Barkley and Hoffman on the east coast. Also Affleck and other overseers on the west coast that have really mishandled predators. I don't know all the details of any of these names cases, but I think they're going to remain comfortable in their places until there is a guilty verdict for some perpetrator they have known about under their watch and they didn't report the perpetrator to the law. It would be easier to prosecute them after there is established proof that the ones they let pass were actually proven guilty too.
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