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Post by CherieKropp on Jan 1, 2006 20:26:13 GMT -5
Anyone know what has become of this worker? Originally from state of KS Thanx, CK
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Post by Hol not logged on Jan 1, 2006 22:31:27 GMT -5
Cherie,
There was a much earlier thread entitled something like "where are these workers today" and Steve's name came up. Apparently he's out of the work (and possibly, according to the thread, completely "out") and living in California. I remember him back in the 70s in NC as a really fun, young worker. He could play football and basketball like no one else!!!!
Hol
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Post by D on Jan 2, 2006 2:25:46 GMT -5
I have heard that Steve is living with some of the friends in the Northeast and is grapling with depression. I am from Kansas, and after 30+ years in Truth, I have seldom heard a worker speak who made more sense or had a deeper connection with God than Steve. He was sincere, profound, and truly enlightened as to the fundamentals for salvation. He was not caught up in all this rhetoric over doctrine and rules. I cannot express enough how much he is missed in this state, and I pray that God will bring him back to us again some day, if it is His will.
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Post by ilylo on Jan 2, 2006 2:46:58 GMT -5
Back when my home was still open Steve was a very welcome guest, as he had been an acquaintance of my family for a couple of decades. His visits were always friendly and helpful, and I can't recall a single negative utterance coming from him.
While visiting once, he made mention of "those websites". That got me searching, and I found VOT the next day. So I suppose it would be fitting to express my thanks to Steve for his help (in more ways than one).
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Post by Alan C on Jan 2, 2006 3:29:44 GMT -5
Anyone know what has become of this worker? Originally from state of KS Thanx, CK He is running around the world trying to insert his ideas into this fellowship. He is one of the leaders of a group of people called the children of the divine light and he is called the holy prophet.
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Post by remember on Jan 2, 2006 7:19:36 GMT -5
Cherie, I remember him back in the 70s in NC as a really fun, young worker. He could play football and basketball like no one else!!!! Hol Hol, I also remember him in the 70's in NC and remember the same as you. Young, athletic and lots of fun. He made going to preps a lot more enjoyable.
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Post by CherieK to AlanC on Jan 2, 2006 12:28:39 GMT -5
RE: He is running around the world trying to insert his ideas into this fellowship. He is one of the leaders of a group of people called the children of the divine light and he is called the holy prophet. Do what? Are these people still going to meetings? Pls share more with us about the children of the divine light! What do they believe? Thanx
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Post by nathan7 on Jan 2, 2006 13:41:25 GMT -5
Anyone know what has become of this worker? Originally from state of KS Thanx, CK He is running around the world trying to insert his ideas into this fellowship. He is one of the leaders of a group of people called the children of the divine light and he is called the holy prophet. I have read some of Steve B. beliefs for two yrs and there is a different kind of ring to it. Time will tell what he is up to.
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Post by slow to see on Jan 2, 2006 13:57:18 GMT -5
I have read some of Steve B. beliefs for two yrs and there is a different kind of ring to it. Time will tell what he is up to.[/quote]
Hi Nathan, Where is it possible to read some of these beliefs?? Did you recieve letters personally or on the internet or??? Like others, I VERY much appreciated him and his message, when he was here for special meetings a few years ago, as did others here. He was a help and encouraging to visit with. What do you mean by "a different kind of ring"? Alvin
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Post by another slaunder on Jan 2, 2006 14:05:23 GMT -5
Anyone know what has become of this worker? Originally from state of KS Thanx, CK He is running around the world trying to insert his ideas into this fellowship. He is one of the leaders of a group of people called the children of the divine light and he is called the holy prophet. This is a new one on me. Typical slander about those who leave the fellowship. Exes have been accused of having started their own church, as not being willing, as having gone bitter, etc.etc, William Irvine was branded as having gone mad and I have heard this said of others and I have even heard of someone who has become a Christian as having become religious, but this latest is a new one to me.
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Post by to Alan C on Jan 2, 2006 16:17:52 GMT -5
Alan, can you share more?
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Post by gregleeinnd on Jan 2, 2006 16:48:15 GMT -5
Alan, can you share more? Likely he can as he is either just having his type of fun or trying to make a point about the question even being asked.
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Post by nathan7 on Jan 2, 2006 16:52:25 GMT -5
I have read some of Steve B. beliefs for two yrs and there is a different kind of ring to it. Time will tell what he is up to. Hi Nathan, Where is it possible to read some of these beliefs?? Did you recieve letters personally or on the internet or??? Like others, I VERY much appreciated him and his message, when he was here for special meetings a few years ago, as did others here. He was a help and encouraging to visit with. What do you mean by "a different kind of ring"? Alvin[/quote] Steve B. and I were on the same emailing list so I read many of his posts, beliefs, etc.... Yes, I heard he was in your parts of the world couple years ago. I wasn't surprised when I heard he left the ministry. I wish him the best.
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Post by Alan C on Jan 2, 2006 17:09:50 GMT -5
RE: He is running around the world trying to insert his ideas into this fellowship. He is one of the leaders of a group of people called the children of the divine light and he is called the holy prophet. Do what? Are these people still going to meetings? Pls share more with us about the children of the divine light! What do they believe? Thanx Yes here they are but you can see a different spirit in them that it has started to break families. They are not being kicked out but are being left to make up their own mind as to what they will do. I do not know what it is they do or believe but I know it is different.
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Post by Alan C on Jan 2, 2006 17:11:33 GMT -5
He is running around the world trying to insert his ideas into this fellowship. He is one of the leaders of a group of people called the children of the divine light and he is called the holy prophet. This is a new one on me. Typical slander about those who leave the fellowship. Exes have been accused of having started their own church, as not being willing, as having gone bitter, etc.etc, William Irvine was branded as having gone mad and I have heard this said of others and I have even heard of someone who has become a Christian as having become religious, but this latest is a new one to me. Read your post again and you might just see how silly it is
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Post by Alan C on Jan 2, 2006 17:12:42 GMT -5
Alan, can you share more? Sorry no. I don't wish to know more.
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Post by Alan C on Jan 2, 2006 17:14:28 GMT -5
Alan, can you share more? Likely he can as he is either just having his type of fun or trying to make a point about the question even being asked. And it seems likely you don't know
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Post by gregleeinnd on Jan 2, 2006 17:15:13 GMT -5
Alan, can you share more? Sorry no. I don't wish to know more. Have you related what you " know" from first hand (or ear) experience or from what you have heard?
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Post by gregleeinnd on Jan 2, 2006 17:33:05 GMT -5
Likely he can as he is either just having his type of fun or trying to make a point about the question even being asked. And it seems likely you don't know Correct.
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Post by Walter on Jan 3, 2006 0:08:39 GMT -5
To D : I spent the better part of a day with Steve over the Xmas holidays in Alberta. I do not believe he is grappling with depression. I am sure it is hard to see the workers list and you are not on it, and were NOT told ahead of reading the list.. To Alan C: Sorry mate your story does not add up … after having just talked with Steve NONE of what you posted was even hinted at or mentioned or discussed, and believe you me we covered a lot. Not sure what kind of wacky toebacky your smoking but I did not even get a hint of what you stated in your posts. To Nathan Barker: Perhaps the ring that you are hearing Nathan is the true ring and not the workers ring you are so accustom to hearing … so yes it will be different To Cherrie K: I appreciated the time I spent with Steve and our talk on many subjects. Steve is not in the workers 2x2 ministry and is now not welcome in most Countries, States, or Provinces for 2x2 fellowship. However there are some system folks that have asked him to come and visit them as they do not believe the personal attacks & slander on him that go with not conforming to the upper management of the 2x2 system. Steve mentioned he felt a strong need to visit those in Alberta that were dealt with by the 2x2 Higher Than Thou management. As in most cases it takes a little time to get to understand and get used to how ruthless the system can be, by most of its members – workers and friends. Steves learning. I am not sure just what Steves plans are but do know that he has spent some time in NZ and Australia recently at the request of some proff. system folks. Seems like things down under are not so system UNITED as one is lead to believe.
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Post by nathan7 on Jan 3, 2006 0:28:37 GMT -5
To D : I spent the better part of a day with Steve over the Xmas holidays in Alberta. I do not believe he is grappling with depression. I am sure it is hard to see the workers list and you are not on it, and were NOT told ahead of reading the list.. To Alan C: Sorry mate your story does not add up … after having just talked with Steve NONE of what you posted was even hinted at or mentioned or discussed, and believe you me we covered a lot. Not sure what kind of wacky toebacky your smoking but I did not even get a hint of what you stated in your posts. To Nathan Barker: Perhaps the ring that you are hearing Nathan is the true ring and not the workers ring you are so accustom to hearing … so yes it will be different To Cherrie K: I appreciated the time I spent with Steve and our talk on many subjects. Steve is not in the workers 2x2 ministry and is now not welcome in most Countries, States, or Provinces for 2x2 fellowship. However there are some system folks that have asked him to come and visit them as they do not believe the personal attacks & slander on him that go with not conforming to the upper management of the 2x2 system. Steve mentioned he felt a strong need to visit those in Alberta that were dealt with by the 2x2 Higher Than Thou management. As in most cases it takes a little time to get to understand and get used to how ruthless the system can be, by most of its members – workers and friends. Steves learning. I am not sure just what Steves plans are but do know that he has spent some time in NZ and Australia recently at the request of some proff. system folks. Seems like things down under are not so system UNITED as one is lead to believe. Walter, time will tell about the different kind of a Ring I mentioned in my previous post. I wish him the best because I know leaving the ministry is not an easy experience. May the Lord keeps Steve B's heart soft.
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Post by concerned on Jan 3, 2006 1:51:05 GMT -5
If all that's being said is true about Steve B(I don't know you),but I just want to assure you that God is still in control.He has promised..Lo, I am with you always,even unto the end of the world. Be strong in the Lord .....this too shall pass...it is just a test..
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Post by gregleeinnd on Jan 3, 2006 1:55:50 GMT -5
I visted with someone who said Steve left North Dakota, but not the work, to be near his ailing mother in Kansas. that was in 1998.
Then sometime later a brother committed suicide and he left Kansas (still in the work) to go to South Dakota. That was in 2002.
Then when in South Dakota he wrote letters or emails to tell people he was leaving the work to deal with his insomia. That was in 2003.
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Post by Elaine on Jan 3, 2006 2:15:22 GMT -5
I know first hand that Steve believed a different Gospel to the other workers at our convention in 1999 because I heard him. He spoke of grace, the trinity and Christ's imputed righteousness. He spoke his mind and I guessed it wouldn't be too long before he would be removed one way or another.
I sincerely hope and pray that Steve will find the peace he needs in the truth of God's word and God's Gospel of Grace.
To be a round peg in a square hole is very difficult and leaves it's mark.
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Post by Alan C on Jan 3, 2006 2:23:45 GMT -5
To Alan C: Sorry mate your story does not add up … after having just talked with Steve NONE of what you posted was even hinted at or mentioned or discussed, and believe you me we covered a lot. Not sure what kind of wacky toebacky your smoking but I did not even get a hint of what you stated in your posts. Frankly I don't really care if the story don't add up for you Just telling how it is here If you disagree. then disagree. Oh by the way did you ask by what name they take? Or what he calls himself?
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Post by gregleeinnd on Jan 3, 2006 2:31:26 GMT -5
I know first hand that Steve believed a different Gospel to the other workers at our convention in 1999... Elaine, what convention was that?
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Post by nathan7 on Jan 3, 2006 3:04:05 GMT -5
I know first hand that Steve believed a different Gospel to the other workers at our convention in 1999 because I heard him. He spoke of grace, the trinity and Christ's imputed righteousness. He spoke his mind and I guessed it wouldn't be too long before he would be removed one way or another. I sincerely hope and pray that Steve will find the peace he needs in the truth of God's word and God's Gospel of Grace. To be a round peg in a square hole is very difficult and leaves it's mark. Come on Elaine.... I have heard a worker (an overseer) who spoke on the Grace of God, the Trinity (a senior worker) at special meetings, and Jesus is God (another overseer) and convention last year. They are still in the work. ;D
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Post by Bob M on Jan 3, 2006 21:24:27 GMT -5
Steve and a friend spent two days visiting me in BC to indicate how WRONG some workers are to have excommunicated faithful people from the F&W fellowship They have previously and, I believe still are visiting in Alberta with the purpose of helping those abused by power hungry workers and those who worship workers rather than the Lord whom they are trying to replace as the most high Authority on righteousness. Bob M
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