think
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Post by think on Jan 3, 2006 21:52:05 GMT -5
To Alan C: Sorry mate your story does not add up … after having just talked with Steve NONE of what you posted was even hinted at or mentioned or discussed, and believe you me we covered a lot. Not sure what kind of wacky toebacky your smoking but I did not even get a hint of what you stated in your posts. Frankly I don't really care if the story don't add up for you Just telling how it is here If you disagree. then disagree. Oh by the way did you ask by what name they take? Or what he calls himself? Alan C, You wouldn't happen to be the same Alan C that Steve lived with briefly after leaving the Midwest, would you?
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Post by Alan C on Jan 3, 2006 22:39:56 GMT -5
Frankly I don't really care if the story don't add up for you Just telling how it is here If you disagree. then disagree. Oh by the way did you ask by what name they take? Or what he calls himself? Alan C, You wouldn't happen to be the same Alan C that Steve lived with briefly after leaving the Midwest, would you? No sorry.
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Post by sarahjane on Jan 3, 2006 23:16:50 GMT -5
Hmmmm. I think it's not very wonderful that some on this thread so flippantly judge a person, and have decided that their own judgement is the true authority and refuse to see it from the other side or from the other person's shoes. Didn't Jesus himself say that judging is terrible? We are not to judge because we will always get it wrong!
No one knows Steve's story or his relationship with God and so no one has any right to go about blabbing what they say is "his story."
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Post by jge on Jan 3, 2006 23:59:08 GMT -5
To D : I spent the better part of a day with Steve over the Xmas holidays in Alberta. I do not believe he is grappling with depression. I am sure it is hard to see the workers list and you are not on it, and were NOT told ahead of reading the list.. To Alan C: Sorry mate your story does not add up … after having just talked with Steve NONE of what you posted was even hinted at or mentioned or discussed, and believe you me we covered a lot. Not sure what kind of wacky toebacky your smoking but I did not even get a hint of what you stated in your posts. To Nathan Barker: Perhaps the ring that you are hearing Nathan is the true ring and not the workers ring you are so accustom to hearing … so yes it will be different To Cherrie K: I appreciated the time I spent with Steve and our talk on many subjects. Steve is not in the workers 2x2 ministry and is now not welcome in most Countries, States, or Provinces for 2x2 fellowship. However there are some system folks that have asked him to come and visit them as they do not believe the personal attacks & slander on him that go with not conforming to the upper management of the 2x2 system. Steve mentioned he felt a strong need to visit those in Alberta that were dealt with by the 2x2 Higher Than Thou management. As in most cases it takes a little time to get to understand and get used to how ruthless the system can be, by most of its members – workers and friends. Steves learning. I am not sure just what Steves plans are but do know that he has spent some time in NZ and Australia recently at the request of some proff. system folks. Seems like things down under are not so system UNITED as one is lead to believe.
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Post by jge on Jan 4, 2006 0:00:45 GMT -5
To D : I spent the better part of a day with Steve over the Xmas holidays in Alberta. I do not believe he is grappling with depression. I am sure it is hard to see the workers list and you are not on it, and were NOT told ahead of reading the list.. To Alan C: Sorry mate your story does not add up … after having just talked with Steve NONE of what you posted was even hinted at or mentioned or discussed, and believe you me we covered a lot. Not sure what kind of wacky toebacky your smoking but I did not even get a hint of what you stated in your posts. To Nathan Barker: Perhaps the ring that you are hearing Nathan is the true ring and not the workers ring you are so accustom to hearing … so yes it will be different To Cherrie K: I appreciated the time I spent with Steve and our talk on many subjects. Steve is not in the workers 2x2 ministry and is now not welcome in most Countries, States, or Provinces for 2x2 fellowship. However there are some system folks that have asked him to come and visit them as they do not believe the personal attacks & slander on him that go with not conforming to the upper management of the 2x2 system. Steve mentioned he felt a strong need to visit those in Alberta that were dealt with by the 2x2 Higher Than Thou management. As in most cases it takes a little time to get to understand and get used to how ruthless the system can be, by most of its members – workers and friends. Steves learning. I am not sure just what Steves plans are but do know that he has spent some time in NZ and Australia recently at the request of some proff. system folks. Seems like things down under are not so system UNITED as one is lead to believe.
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Post by Bob Magowan on Jan 6, 2006 20:11:30 GMT -5
All I can say is that Steve and his friend seem to be doing what I would like to do if I were able Bob Magowan
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Post by ilylo on Jan 7, 2006 1:28:28 GMT -5
I have heard a worker (an overseer) who spoke on the Grace of God, the Trinity (a senior worker) at special meetings, and Jesus is God (another overseer) and convention last year. They are still in the work. ;D Yet more unsubstantiated claims from nate.
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Post by you on Jan 7, 2006 2:31:18 GMT -5
I have heard a worker (an overseer) who spoke on the Grace of God, the Trinity (a senior worker) at special meetings, and Jesus is God (another overseer) and convention last year. They are still in the work. ;D Yet more unsubstantiated claims from nate. you can talk wobbly gob ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2006 9:55:48 GMT -5
I have also heard workers speak on the Trinity and were still preaching until their death. In fact, I have a letter from a now deceased very well respected overseer who wrote about the Trinity and said that George Walker spoke about the Trinity many times. What is the big deal. We know, the word isn't in the Bible, but neither are a lot of other words we use in the fellowship.
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Post by Midwesterner on Jan 7, 2006 13:02:56 GMT -5
The trinity argument is getting old-the Father,the Son and the Holy Spirit are all three separate entities but are all of the same mind; other wise was heaven empty when Jesus can to this earth-who was he praying to -himself???
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Post by Midwesterner on Jan 7, 2006 13:14:50 GMT -5
sorry about the fast typing-I meant came not can
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2006 17:23:45 GMT -5
I would very much like to get in touch with Steve. Do any of you have an e-mail address for him?
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Post by a friend on Jan 10, 2006 12:33:52 GMT -5
Steve's E-mail address is: rsb3345@juno.com
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Post by bobmagowan on Jan 10, 2006 15:00:55 GMT -5
Steve and his friend Gary visited me for two days and we all visited a local disgruntled ex. I believe we all thoroughly profited from our three hour visit. I repeat something I have said before. I believe that Steve is doing what I would like to do if I were capable Bob Magowan
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Post by To Bobby on Jan 10, 2006 15:35:28 GMT -5
Steve and his friend Gary visited me for two days and we all visited a local disgruntled ex. I believe we all thoroughly profited from our three hour visit. I repeat something I have said before. I believe that Steve is doing what I would like to do if I were capable Bob Magowan What's stoppin' ya Bobby?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2006 15:46:17 GMT -5
Can you be more specific what it is that Steve is doing and what it is that you would like to do. It can be a bit difficult to read between the lines.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2006 20:25:51 GMT -5
Don't know if he's still in the Work, but do know that he's had some major issues. Not what he appears to be.
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Post by mrtindrucvionging on Jan 19, 2006 22:20:51 GMT -5
You can bet I will praying for Steve tonight! Do you think he would mind if I sent him an email to the above address?
thanx, mr. t
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Post by Alan C on Jan 19, 2006 23:02:08 GMT -5
This is a withdrawal statement. A while ago I made some comments on Steve Blubaugh which some have taken offence to. I withdraw all that I posted about Steve to help a brother. I will not discuss what I posted, whether it be true or false. The information I received I took in good faith. It was said to me, since I had never meet with Steven I could not really comment on what was happening in his life. I took what this brother said to me on board and I completely withdraw all I said and apologize for any hurt that was caused to the brothers of Chris and Steven.
Alan C.
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Post by gabriel on Jan 20, 2006 17:41:40 GMT -5
Alan,
We, the readers on his board, thank you, and accept your apology.
It is correct that it is imperitive that one must know the whole truth, and nothing but the truth from every side of the coin, to be able to even begin making a comment. Or even thoughts within about it. But, more than that, whether what you hear be true or false, it is up to all of us to continue to show the fruits of the Holy Spirit to all. These are part of the doctrine of Christ. This is our calling on this Earth. It is God's calling to have the vengence. NOT OUR'S.
You said you will not discuss what you posted. Thats VERY good, Alan. As someone recently said, when there is a house fire, we must close the door, to stop it spreading. By speaking out, we spread the fire.
You said the information you received was in good faith. We all have to learn the same lesson, that no information received is in good faith, unless we first take it to the Lord in prayer and get peace within about it.
You remarked on the information being true or false. Everything we ever hear is true or false, or part thereof. How do we know whether to believe it or not? Does it matter? We must continue to show the marks of the Lord Jesus, and not condemn anyone.
Steve Blubaugh is a man like anyone else. His name (along with others) has been hung, drawn and quartered before the whole world in the fellowship. Only God knows the whole and real truth. Even if he had done wrong, his name and Soul would not be hung, drawn and quartered with the Lord God Almighty. That is not how God works. Sadly however, it is how the carnal mind thinks and works.
Finally, in defence of Steve, from someone who knows him personally, someone within the fellowship, who knows the trials he has been facing in the fellowship in the past year, we have only ever seen that he has a true heart for the Lord. He puts the Lord before everything and everyone, and if he is misunderstood, then he knows he must still do what he is led by the Lord to do and be. We have only seen a Godly and true heart from Steven Blubaugh.
I plead on his absent behalf that all who read this thread pray for him from pure hearts of compassion, as our Lord and Master had and taught. That we all show him God's true love, not only on this board, and not only if we come across him on his travels, but most importantly, feel this for him in our hearts. After all, what we speak forth, comes from the intents and condition of our hearts. That is where purity begins.
Thankyou again, Alan, your post has been much appreciated by many. May the Lord be with you and bless you in your continued pursuit for the truth of God, His honest and purity.
Gabriel
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Post by Great post on Jan 20, 2006 17:45:51 GMT -5
Alan, We, the readers on his board, thank you, and accept your apology. It is correct that it is imperitive that one must know the whole truth, and nothing but the truth from every side of the coin, to be able to even begin making a comment. Or even thoughts within about it. But, more than that, whether what you hear be true or false, it is up to all of us to continue to show the fruits of the Holy Spirit to all. These are part of the doctrine of Christ. This is our calling on this Earth. It is God's calling to have the vengence. NOT OUR'S. You said you will not discuss what you posted. Thats VERY good, Alan. As someone recently said, when there is a house fire, we must close the door, to stop it spreading. By speaking out, we spread the fire. You said the information you received was in good faith. We all have to learn the same lesson, that no information received is in good faith, unless we first take it to the Lord in prayer and get peace within about it. You remarked on the information being true or false. Everything we ever hear is true or false, or part thereof. How do we know whether to believe it or not? Does it matter? We must continue to show the marks of the Lord Jesus, and not condemn anyone. Steve Blubaugh is a man like anyone else. His name (along with others) has been hung, drawn and quartered before the whole world in the fellowship. Only God knows the whole and real truth. Even if he had done wrong, his name and Soul would not be hung, drawn and quartered with the Lord God Almighty. That is not how God works. Sadly however, it is how the carnal mind thinks and works. Finally, in defence of Steve, from someone who knows him personally, someone within the fellowship, who knows the trials he has been facing in the fellowship in the past year, we have only ever seen that he has a true heart for the Lord. He puts the Lord before everything and everyone, and if he is misunderstood, then he knows he must still do what he is led by the Lord to do and be. We have only seen a Godly and true heart from Steven Blubaugh. I plead on his absent behalf that all who read this thread pray for him from pure hearts of compassion, as our Lord and Master had and taught. That we all show him God's true love, not only on this board, and not only if we come across him on his travels, but most importantly, feel this for him in our hearts. After all, what we speak forth, comes from the intents and condition of our hearts. That is where purity begins. Thankyou again, Alan, your post has been much appreciated by many. May the Lord be with you and bless you in your continued pursuit for the truth of God, His honest and purity. Gabriel Amen, brother!
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Post by HRL on Jan 20, 2006 20:34:49 GMT -5
I will most certainly pray for Steve and if I see him, I would be happy to treat him like a dearly beloved brethren.
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Post by Sandi on Jan 20, 2006 20:40:03 GMT -5
To Bob Magowan: I don't consider myself a disgruntled EX but rather an outsider who had been held captive inside the 2x2s because of FEAR. I can now shout from the roof tops because I am no longer in the clutches of that system. ...... Had I been falsely sent to prison for 14 years and later released because of a wrong verdict I think I would have similar feelings. Ilylo, I'm glad Steve mentioned the web sites! Information DOES work! - Sandi
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Post by Weldone on Jan 20, 2006 22:25:32 GMT -5
Thank you Alan for your courage, and thank you Gabriel for your Godly counsel.
Psalms 133:1 Behold, how good and how pleasant [it is] for brethren to dwell together in unity!
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Post by ilylo on Jan 20, 2006 22:38:13 GMT -5
Ilylo, I'm glad Steve mentioned the web sites! Information DOES work! - Sandi Agreed. Steve planted the idea for me to go looking, and your site came up first. So thanks to both of you for helping me open my eyes.
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Post by LGY on Jan 23, 2006 11:34:15 GMT -5
Steven Blubaugh is a man of GOD led by the Holy Spirit to help needy souls find the Kingdom of Heaven within. Many thanks are offered to Gabriel for the Holy counsel that was brought forth, as opposed to that of the unholy carnal minds that harbour gossip, pride and darkness.
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Post by smokie on Jan 23, 2006 17:10:08 GMT -5
ever heard the saying.............there's no smoke without fire? lot of smoke about this dude
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Post by Shamgar on Jan 24, 2006 19:20:56 GMT -5
Dear Smokie ever heard the saying.............there's no smoke without fire? lot of smoke about this dude There was a lot of smoke around the martyrs burned at the stake during the years of the Inquisition. Smoke created by the "righteous" defending their opinions and position and prepared to annihiliate anyone brave enough to be led by God. Fortunately the opinionators of the church today are limited only to crucifying the reputation of todays victims.
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