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Post by nathan on Oct 6, 2019 21:04:37 GMT -5
Someone wrote: Nov 11, 2010 However, there is no reason to think that Adam and Eve did not have a normal relationship as husband and wife while in the garden of Eden. They were told to “be fruitful and multiply” (Genesis 1:28) which suggests that they engaged in sexual relations from the beginning. No children are described until after they left the garden of Eden.~~ Just like the RCC teachws that Mary the mother of Jesus did NOT have SEXUAL relationship with Joseph her husband after the birth of Jesus as husband and wife. She was a virgin to the time of her death.... That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Joseph had married a beautiful wife and he could NOT have any sexual intimacy time with her after he had obeyed God NOT to have sex with her after the baby Jesus was born.
By the way, Eve was NOT Adam's first wife.... Lilth was! I believe they had SEX with one another in the Garden of Eden before God created Eve to replace Lilth. Adam could NOT have children without a female. Adam and Lilth were created from the same dust of the ground, but Eve from One of Adam's ribs.
Snow... knows about Lilth! She has a good understand on this.
But the pangs of childbirth were not given to Eve until just before they were tossed out of the Garden. So either they had never supposedly gotten fruitful to multiply or sex wasn’t for procreation until after the fall of man, when God gave Eve the curse of childbirth. They had SEXUAL intercourse God said Two shall become ONE FLESH/Ying and Yang... The Pain of child birth was given AFTER they had sinned.... We will NEVER KNOW what child birth was like if they had NOT sinned. Sex is beautiful between a loving husband and a beautiful wife God said let no man/woman comes between the two... Satan entered in the picture and ruined Adam and Eve marriage= bore Cain and Abel. TWO different seeds.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 6, 2019 21:42:00 GMT -5
But the pangs of childbirth were not given to Eve until just before they were tossed out of the Garden. So either they had never supposedly gotten fruitful to multiply or sex wasn’t for procreation until after the fall of man, when God gave Eve the curse of childbirth. They had SEXUAL intercourse God said Two shall become ONE FLESH/Ying and Yang... The Pain of child birth was given AFTER they had sinned.... We will NEVER KNOW what child birth was like if they had NOT sinned. Sex is beautiful between a loving husband and a beautiful wife God said let no man/woman comes between the two... Satan entered in the picture and ruined Adam and Eve marriage= bore Cain and Abel. TWO different seeds.
God said man and wife would become one flesh, and sex is how that happens.
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Post by nathan on Oct 6, 2019 22:07:22 GMT -5
They had SEXUAL intercourse God said Two shall become ONE FLESH/Ying and Yang... The Pain of child birth was given AFTER they had sinned.... We will NEVER KNOW what child birth was like if they had NOT sinned. Sex is beautiful between a loving husband and a beautiful wife God said let no man/woman comes between the two... Satan entered in the picture and ruined Adam and Eve marriage= bore Cain and Abel. TWO different seeds.
God said man and wife would become one flesh, and sex is how that happens. So, I believe Sex between Adam and Eve started in the Garden of Eden before Satan entered the picture.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 22:45:08 GMT -5
God said man and wife would become one flesh, and sex is how that happens. So, I believe Sex between Adam and Eve started in the Garden of Eden before Satan entered the picture.they didn't know they were naked how could they have had sex?
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Post by nathan on Oct 6, 2019 22:46:44 GMT -5
So, I believe Sex between Adam and Eve started in the Garden of Eden before Satan entered the picture. they didn't know they were naked how could they have had sex? They had the ying and the yang... and God told them to Multiply... How are they going to multiply= having kids without having SEX?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 7, 2019 0:21:54 GMT -5
they didn't know they were naked how could they have had sex? They had the ying and the yang... and God told them to Multiply... How are they going to multiply= having kids without having SEX? I believe Wally is right. The thing is we don’t know how long they were in the garden. If they were like the rest of us humans, we sin and fall short of the glory of God every day.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 7, 2019 0:26:08 GMT -5
But the pangs of childbirth were not given to Eve until just before they were tossed out of the Garden. So either they had never supposedly gotten fruitful to multiply or sex wasn’t for procreation until after the fall of man, when God gave Eve the curse of childbirth. They had SEXUAL intercourse God said Two shall become ONE FLESH/Ying and Yang... The Pain of child birth was given AFTER they had sinned.... We will NEVER KNOW what child birth was like if they had NOT sinned. Sex is beautiful between a loving husband and a beautiful wife God said let no man/woman comes between the two... Satan entered in the picture and ruined Adam and Eve marriage= bore Cain and Abel. TWO different seeds. WOW!, -for someone who professes to believe the bible is the word of god, Nathan, you surely take extreme license in adding to it and interpreting as you like!
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Post by nathan on Oct 7, 2019 0:28:27 GMT -5
They had SEXUAL intercourse God said Two shall become ONE FLESH/Ying and Yang... The Pain of child birth was given AFTER they had sinned.... We will NEVER KNOW what child birth was like if they had NOT sinned. Sex is beautiful between a loving husband and a beautiful wife God said let no man/woman comes between the two... Satan entered in the picture and ruined Adam and Eve marriage= bore Cain and Abel. TWO different seeds. WOW!, -for someone who professes to believe the bible is the word of god, Nathan, you surely take extreme license in adding to it and interpreting as you like! This is NOT a New idea or my own... This teaching has been around for a long, long time.... and it makes a lot of sense to me to see and witness all the terrible things are happening in our world today! This world belongs to Satan and he is the king of all humans souls.
Most humans are doomed from the start because of Adam and Eve partake/side with Satan the forbidden fruit= Natural and spiritual death/separation from God fell on their humans children. Satan has created a hybrid half fallen angels and half humans race/his own children to RULE over Adam's seed so they can't enter heaven by keeping them busy with the cares life/paying bills for the rest of their lives as slaves and forfeit their souls to him/Satan.
Through Adam's race Christ/God entered the world as their Redeemer and Savior Jesus... Jesus said, "Ye MUST be born again to enter the kingdom of heaven." Satan is the god of this world and all of Adam's humans seed/souls belong to him or he owns them and after death.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 7, 2019 4:05:14 GMT -5
WOW!, -for someone who professes to believe the bible is the word of god, Nathan, you surely take extreme license in adding to it and interpreting as you like! This is NOT a New idea or my own... This teaching has been around for a long, long time.... and it makes a lot of sense to me to see and witness all the terrible things are happening in our world today! This world belongs to Satan and he is the king of all humans souls.
Most humans are doomed from the start because of Adam and Eve partake/side with Satan the forbidden fruit= Natural and spiritual death/separation from God fell on their humans children. Satan has created a hybrid half fallen angels and half humans race/his own children to RULE over Adam's seed so they can't enter heaven by keeping them busy with the cares life/paying bills for the rest of their lives as slaves and forfeit their souls to him/Satan.
Through Adam's race Christ/God entered the world as their Redeemer and Savior Jesus... Jesus said, "Ye MUST be born again to enter the kingdom of heaven." Satan is the god of this world and all of Adam's humans seed/souls belong to him or he owns them and after death.
It doesn't matter whether it is YOUR idea or NOT, Nathan; -nor how long it has been around!
If it isn't what the bible already says and if you believe the bible is true & reliable; -then mere humans as yourself reworking it over to make it say something that isn't even there would be like insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God as if HE hadn't already did a good enough job of explained it well enough!
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Post by nathan on Oct 7, 2019 7:46:23 GMT -5
This is NOT a New idea or my own... This teaching has been around for a long, long time.... and it makes a lot of sense to me to see and witness all the terrible things are happening in our world today! This world belongs to Satan and he is the king of all humans souls.
Most humans are doomed from the start because of Adam and Eve partake/side with Satan the forbidden fruit= Natural and spiritual death/separation from God fell on their humans children. Satan has created a hybrid half fallen angels and half humans race/his own children to RULE over Adam's seed so they can't enter heaven by keeping them busy with the cares life/paying bills for the rest of their lives as slaves and forfeit their souls to him/Satan.
Through Adam's race Christ/God entered the world as their Redeemer and Savior Jesus... Jesus said, "Ye MUST be born again to enter the kingdom of heaven." Satan is the god of this world and all of Adam's humans seed/souls belong to him or he owns them and after death.
It doesn't matter whether it is YOUR idea or NOT, Nathan; -nor how long it has been around!
If it isn't what the bible already says and if you believe the bible is true & reliable; -then mere humans as yourself reworking it over to make it say something that isn't even there would be like insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God as if HE hadn't already did a good enough job of explained it well enough!
The Two seeds are mentioned throughout the Bible God the Father and Christ/God revealed it in Genesis 3:15 Cain and Abel. The children of God and the children of the devil/Satan. The sheep Vs. goats, the good fish Vs. bad fish, true servants of God Vs. False prophets. The wheat Vs. Tares, the 5 wise virgins Vs. the 5 foolish Virgins. The True bride of Christ (Rev. chapters 11-12) Vs. the False bride (Rev. chapters 17-18).
Jesus said to the Pharisees and Saducees in John 8:44 "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts [desires] of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Satan is a liar."
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Post by openingact34 on Oct 7, 2019 8:54:52 GMT -5
But what you aren't taking into consideration here is that it's man's interpretation or rather the church leaders in the beginning, that have decided what they think their God expects as far as sex. It's a good way to make people feel like they are sinners when it becomes a sin to want sex. But the way I see it, if your God exists, he made us to enjoy sex and then he (his priests) decide that sex is a sin. You said that Adam and Eve were sinless BEFORE they realized that they were naked and started having sex. That means that even sex in marriage is a sinful state. And, I disagree that sex should have ever been categorized as a sin. It's a natural part of life and it's been turned into something wrong. Many people have been really messed up by that teaching. But God considers man and woman married after the first sec act. It tells about in fornicating with harlots, men have become one flesh with harlots. Exactly right. That is why women are commanded to marry their rapist. If she gets raped and then marries another man, she is an adulteress and God will have to torture her in hell for all eternity. A few short decades of abuse are nothing in comparison. And clearly God is a Republican, because he gave rich men a loophole. If you want to screw a woman but don't want to make her your wife or give her offspring any inheritance, just make her a concubine! Praise the Lord!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 7, 2019 9:57:07 GMT -5
But God considers man and woman married after the first sec act. It tells about in fornicating with harlots, men have become one flesh with harlots. Exactly right. That is why women are commanded to marry their rapist. If she gets raped and then marries another man, she is an adulteress and God will have to torture her in hell for all eternity. A few short decades of abuse are nothing in comparison. And clearly God is a Republican, because he gave rich men a loophole. If you want to screw a woman but don't want to make her your wife or give her offspring any inheritance, just make her a concubine! Praise the Lord! LOL!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 11:23:19 GMT -5
They had the ying and the yang... and God told them to Multiply... How are they going to multiply= having kids without having SEX? I believe Wally is right. The thing is we don’t know how long they were in the garden. If they were like the rest of us humans, we sin and fall short of the glory of God every day. apparently about 100 years give or take a year or so...at least thats how old adam was when they had cain and able outside the garden....
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Post by mountain on Oct 7, 2019 14:00:31 GMT -5
No I am not. You have clearly demonstrated over and over again that you are unwilling to consider or think about anything other than what is fixed in your mind. During World War II the German Army's (The Heer) soldiers wore belts with the words 'Gott Mit Uns', or 'God With Us' (Emmanuelle) embossed on the buckles. As you have demonstrated by your reasoning, these belt buckles are God himself! This is how you reason things out. You apply these self same standards in other matters. You’re out of your mind! My reasoning is from the Bible. It hurts and alarms me very much that you don’t believe what the Father has gave in record about his Son. You holler about context. Mountain, anything the Father has said “stands alone” never to be rebutted! That’s the way it is and God measures our presence of faith by the fact whether we believe what the Father has gave in record about his Son. His Son is the Word as so said in John 1:1,2. And it plainly states the Word was in the beginning, the Word was with God, AND the Word WAS GOD! Later in the chapter it says that GOD was made MANIFEST in the FLESH. The Father did NOT beget or have sex with Mary to “BEGAT” his SON. His SON was already begotten, as ISAIAH prophesied “Unto is a Son is GIVEN “. Indicating this Son already was present. John 3:16. For God so loved the world that he “gave” his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth on him shall not perish. Hebrews 10:5 says “Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he(Jesus) saith, ‘Sacrifice and offering thou wouldst not, BUT A BODY THOU HAST PREPARED ME:” The Father “prepared a human body” in Mary’s womb to embody his only begotten Son in, so that that body is the bread which we memorialize in the bread; that body’s life’s blood is what we memorialize in the wine we drink. And above all else to grow spiritually we eat of that body and drink of that blood. Philippians 2:5-7 Let this mind be in you, which also was in Christ Jesus: WHO, BEING IN THE FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took on him ‘the form of a servant’ , and was made in the likeness of men: Meaning the Son of God had every attribute, nature that the Father had. Why not? Because the Father begat him all alone before the world became. He was God’s Son or God the Son as there is only ONE God and the Father separated nothing from or of himself in the begetting if his only begotten Son. He shared of himself. John 8:58. Before Abraham was, I AM! (Reference: Exodus 3:14...I , that I AM...”) Not only are you absolutely unwilling to consider any interpretations other than what you want to believe, you are wearing that belt buckle inside out! Sorry Shaz, but there you have it!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 7, 2019 14:29:57 GMT -5
I believe Wally is right. The thing is we don’t know how long they were in the garden. If they were like the rest of us humans, we sin and fall short of the glory of God every day. apparently about 100 years give or take a year or so...at least thats how old adam was when they had cain and able outside the garden.... I noticed his age at Cain’s birthing. However, I have to wonder just how long the pregnancy took to happen. I’d think with having to set to work and get a home setup and the ground cleared and tilled, it likely was a few years at the least.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 7, 2019 14:34:16 GMT -5
You’re out of your mind! My reasoning is from the Bible. It hurts and alarms me very much that you don’t believe what the Father has gave in record about his Son. You holler about context. Mountain, anything the Father has said “stands alone” never to be rebutted! That’s the way it is and God measures our presence of faith by the fact whether we believe what the Father has gave in record about his Son. His Son is the Word as so said in John 1:1,2. And it plainly states the Word was in the beginning, the Word was with God, AND the Word WAS GOD! Later in the chapter it says that GOD was made MANIFEST in the FLESH. The Father did NOT beget or have sex with Mary to “BEGAT” his SON. His SON was already begotten, as ISAIAH prophesied “Unto is a Son is GIVEN “. Indicating this Son already was present. John 3:16. For God so loved the world that he “gave” his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth on him shall not perish. Hebrews 10:5 says “Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he(Jesus) saith, ‘Sacrifice and offering thou wouldst not, BUT A BODY THOU HAST PREPARED ME:” The Father “prepared a human body” in Mary’s womb to embody his only begotten Son in, so that that body is the bread which we memorialize in the bread; that body’s life’s blood is what we memorialize in the wine we drink. And above all else to grow spiritually we eat of that body and drink of that blood. Philippians 2:5-7 Let this mind be in you, which also was in Christ Jesus: WHO, BEING IN THE FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took on him ‘the form of a servant’ , and was made in the likeness of men: Meaning the Son of God had every attribute, nature that the Father had. Why not? Because the Father begat him all alone before the world became. He was God’s Son or God the Son as there is only ONE God and the Father separated nothing from or of himself in the begetting if his only begotten Son. He shared of himself. John 8:58. Before Abraham was, I AM! (Reference: Exodus 3:14...I , that I AM...”) Not only are you absolutely unwilling to consider any interpretations other than what you want to believe, you are wearing that belt buckle inside out! Sorry Shaz, but there you have it! You are sadly guessing that I haven’t considered any interpretations other then what has been revealed to me by the Holy Spirit. You best back up and remember I was a 2x2 for many many years and heard many different and often erroneous interpretations during those years. Since that time, I have gone to different churches and heard different interpretations there as well. But the things I’m trying to give you freely because I received them free, because they are revealed by the Holy Spirit. That I AM sure about, and if I can avoid doing it again I have no intentions of making God a liar.
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Post by mountain on Oct 7, 2019 15:45:40 GMT -5
The Shaz opined:
You are sadly guessing that I haven’t considered any interpretations other then what has been revealed to me by the Holy Spirit.
You best back up and remember I was a 2x2 for many many years and heard many different and often erroneous interpretations during those years.
Since that time, I have gone to different churches and heard different interpretations there as well. But the things I’m trying to give you freely because I received them free, because they are revealed by the Holy Spirit. That I AM sure about, and if I can avoid doing it again I have no intentions of making God a liar.
Sorry Shaz, I am not guessing. I am going by the very evidence before my eyes.
I don't know why you keep bringing the 2x2s into things? I call a belt buckle a belt buckle!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 7, 2019 18:12:33 GMT -5
The Shaz opined:
You are sadly guessing that I haven’t considered any interpretations other then what has been revealed to me by the Holy Spirit.
You best back up and remember I was a 2x2 for many many years and heard many different and often erroneous interpretations during those years.
Since that time, I have gone to different churches and heard different interpretations there as well. But the things I’m trying to give you freely because I received them free, because they are revealed by the Holy Spirit. That I AM sure about, and if I can avoid doing it again I have no intentions of making God a liar.Sorry Shaz, I am not guessing. I am going by the very evidence before my eyes. I don't know why you keep bringing the 2x2s into things? I call a belt buckle a belt buckle! Belt buckles have nothing to do with reasoning as you’ve so said nor do they have anything to do with Revelations by the Holy Spirit! You are only guessing for you have no idea what different interpretations I’ve or am considering! That’s the cold facts, as far as I am to be concerned! You’ve resorted to insulting what the Holy Spirit has revealed to me and that is supposedly dangerous territory!
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Post by mountain on Oct 8, 2019 13:52:19 GMT -5
The Shaz opined:
You are sadly guessing that I haven’t considered any interpretations other then what has been revealed to me by the Holy Spirit.
You best back up and remember I was a 2x2 for many many years and heard many different and often erroneous interpretations during those years.
Since that time, I have gone to different churches and heard different interpretations there as well. But the things I’m trying to give you freely because I received them free, because they are revealed by the Holy Spirit. That I AM sure about, and if I can avoid doing it again I have no intentions of making God a liar.Sorry Shaz, I am not guessing. I am going by the very evidence before my eyes. I don't know why you keep bringing the 2x2s into things? I call a belt buckle a belt buckle! Belt buckles have nothing to do with reasoning as you’ve so said nor do they have anything to do with Revelations by the Holy Spirit! You are only guessing for you have no idea what different interpretations I’ve or am considering! That’s the cold facts, as far as I am to be concerned! You’ve resorted to insulting what the Holy Spirit has revealed to me and that is supposedly dangerous territory! Whatever you say Shaz, me lass. Whatever you say.
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Post by Ross.Bowden on Oct 8, 2019 16:51:34 GMT -5
The Shaz opined:
You are sadly guessing that I haven’t considered any interpretations other then what has been revealed to me by the Holy Spirit.
You best back up and remember I was a 2x2 for many many years and heard many different and often erroneous interpretations during those years.
Since that time, I have gone to different churches and heard different interpretations there as well. But the things I’m trying to give you freely because I received them free, because they are revealed by the Holy Spirit. That I AM sure about, and if I can avoid doing it again I have no intentions of making God a liar.Sorry Shaz, I am not guessing. I am going by the very evidence before my eyes. I don't know why you keep bringing the 2x2s into things? I call a belt buckle a belt buckle! Belt buckles have nothing to do with reasoning as you’ve so said nor do they have anything to do with Revelations by the Holy Spirit! You are only guessing for you have no idea what different interpretations I’ve or am considering! That’s the cold facts, as far as I am to be concerned! You’ve resorted to insulting what the Holy Spirit has revealed to me and that is supposedly dangerous territory! The interesting thing about any discussion about Christ, who He is, His character and nature, is that it is impossible to read the Scriptures and not see that Christ is eternal, in very nature God, equal with God, shared glory with the Father before the world was created, gives life, forgives sin, raises the dead, raised Himself (it also says that the Father and HS raised Him in different places), controlled the weather, created all things, is in the Father and the Father in Him etc. In short, it is impossible to read Scripture and arrive at a conclusion that Jesus is not eternal and completely divine. In my view, if someone wants to argue that He is not part of the Godhead, is not divine, did not pre-exist etc, they’d have to read Scripture with a completely pre-determined view that they’re unwilling to change or like the JW’s write their own Bible which is a tragedy. It’s not worth arguing because Scripture is 100% clear on the complete divinity of our Lord and Saviour.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 8, 2019 17:27:09 GMT -5
Belt buckles have nothing to do with reasoning as you’ve so said nor do they have anything to do with Revelations by the Holy Spirit! You are only guessing for you have no idea what different interpretations I’ve or am considering! That’s the cold facts, as far as I am to be concerned! You’ve resorted to insulting what the Holy Spirit has revealed to me and that is supposedly dangerous territory! The interesting thing about any discussion about Christ, who He is, His character and nature, is that it is impossible to read the Scriptures and not see that Christ is eternal, in very nature God, equal with God, shared glory with the Father before the world was created, gives life, forgives sin, raises the dead, raised Himself (it also says that the Father and HS raised Him in different places), controlled the weather, created all things, is in the Father and the Father in Him etc. In short, it is impossible to read Scripture and arrive at a conclusion that Jesus is not eternal and completely divine. In my view, if someone wants to argue that He is not part of the Godhead, is not divine, did not pre-exist etc, they’d have to read Scripture with a completely pre-determined view that they’re unwilling to change or like the JW’s write their own Bible which is a tragedy. It’s not worth arguing because Scripture is 100% clear on the complete divinity of our Lord and Saviour. Ross, you know that the very strict anti-Trinity way of workers’ preaching has blinded and hardened hearts just like the Pharisees and scribes that sit in Moses’ seat. I argued with Anne and Nathan a few years ago. Not so much as to deny what they were saying but just because I was blinded and couldn’t see it. With their persistence and my tearful prayers to God, God finally revealed it to me that it WAS vital to my spiritual welfare and then slowly with belief that Anne and Nathan were into something and a bible study from Cherie Kropp I begin to see that it was very true and consistently throughout the Bible. But it was only with the last few months that I saw the real truth of the whole thing and the very inportance of Hebrews1:8 where it says that the Father called his Son “God”. Well I know that if the Father has said something whether I believe it or understand it; that it is truth and final word. Then I incidentally run across the verse in I John 4:10 where it is plainly said if we do not believe what the Father has given on record about his Son then we are making God a liar. It is also plain in that verse that if we don’t believe what the Father has said then we are not a “believer” in Jesus Christ unto salvation nor have the Witness(Holy Spirit) within us. The reality of what I’d done through ignorance for 60 years hit me like a ton of bricks and the sorrow and guilt nearly undone me to know Id made the Father a liar by not believing where he’d called his Son “God”. I’ve beat myself up and had great anger against the workers for not teaching those recorded words of the Father and their import. I know that God in his mercy brought this error to my attention so I could face it now and repent very wholeheartedly. I believe he forgives me, and with his help I hope to forgive myself! This is why I struggle to keep before the unbelievers eyes that which God by the Holy Spirit has been so merciful to reveal to me!
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Post by Pragmatic on Oct 8, 2019 18:05:09 GMT -5
But the pangs of childbirth were not given to Eve until just before they were tossed out of the Garden. So either they had never supposedly gotten fruitful to multiply or sex wasn’t for procreation until after the fall of man, when God gave Eve the curse of childbirth. They had SEXUAL intercourse God said Two shall become ONE FLESH/Ying and Yang... The Pain of child birth was given AFTER they had sinned.... We will NEVER KNOW what child birth was like if they had NOT sinned. Sex is beautiful between a loving husband and a beautiful wife God said let no man/woman comes between the two... Satan entered in the picture and ruined Adam and Eve marriage= bore Cain and Abel. TWO different seeds.
Wow, that is quite a license of interpretation.
So, the Moriori, Australian Aborigines, Mexicans, and some South American tribes have a history that predates anything in the Bible with regard to a human presence.
Cave drawings and other depictions shows the presence of belly buttons....please explain?
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Post by nathan on Oct 8, 2019 18:22:03 GMT -5
They had SEXUAL intercourse God said Two shall become ONE FLESH/Ying and Yang... The Pain of child birth was given AFTER they had sinned.... We will NEVER KNOW what child birth was like if they had NOT sinned. Sex is beautiful between a loving husband and a beautiful wife God said let no man/woman comes between the two... Satan entered in the picture and ruined Adam and Eve marriage= bore Cain and Abel. TWO different seeds.
Wow, that is quite a license of interpretation.
So, the Moriori, Australian Aborigines, Mexicans, and some South American tribes have a history that predates anything in the Bible with regard to a human presence.
Cave drawings and other depictions shows the presence of belly buttons....please explain?
** There were humans created before Adam and Eve race. The TWO Seeds of Adam and Satan were just the beginning of half-angelic and half human= the Nephilim/Giant, Pharaoh, and Illuminati.
In the book of Enoch, the great grand father of Noah revealed 200 fallen angels had sexual intercourse with beautiful earthly women and they bored the Nephlim/giants and they existed in the days of Moses, Joshua, king David's time.
Satan, fallen angels and the Venusians human looking angels have the ability of procreation with humans women.
In the book of Genesis 6:1-5 mention about the Nephilim in the days of Noah.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 8, 2019 19:26:56 GMT -5
Wow, that is quite a license of interpretation. So, the Moriori, Australian Aborigines, Mexicans, and some South American tribes have a history that predates anything in the Bible with regard to a human presence. Cave drawings and other depictions shows the presence of belly buttons....please explain? ** There were humans created before Adam and Eve race. The TWO Seeds of Adam and Satan were just the beginning... In the book of Enoch, the great grand father of Noah revealed 200 fallen angels had sexual intercourse with beautiful earthly women and they bored the Nephlim/giants and they existed in the days of Moses, Joshua, king David's time. Satan, fallen angels and the Venusians human looking angels have the abilitiy of procreation with humans women. In the book of Genesis 6:1-5 mention about the Nephilim in the days of Noah. But the Eve is the mother of all humans thing doesn’t go with this.
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Post by nathan on Oct 8, 2019 20:16:48 GMT -5
** There were humans created before Adam and Eve race. The TWO Seeds of Adam and Satan were just the beginning... In the book of Enoch, the great grand father of Noah revealed 200 fallen angels had sexual intercourse with beautiful earthly women and they bored the Nephlim/giants and they existed in the days of Moses, Joshua, king David's time. Satan, fallen angels and the Venusians human looking angels have the abilitiy of procreation with humans women. In the book of Genesis 6:1-5 mention about the Nephilim in the days of Noah. But the Eve is the mother of all humans thing doesn’t go with this. ** Well, who ever wrote that he didn't know there were others human existed before Eve such as the Neandenthrals and others human races like them existed on the earth.
So, my question is how could Eve be the mother of all human being when other humans existed long before Eve 6000 yrs ago.
The Americans astronauts Apollo 20 mission (Secret Space program) found two women bodies intact on the dark side of the moon. They brought it back to earth to study them, it was dated 1.5 BILLIONS years ago/old. They call her Mona Lisa
You can google: Mona Lisa on the moon Apollo 20 mission and see the video for yourself.
She is about 5 feet 5 tall. She looks like a woman from South America/Spanish looking, VERY beautiful.
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Mona+Lisa+from+the+Apollo+20
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 20:22:37 GMT -5
They had SEXUAL intercourse God said Two shall become ONE FLESH/Ying and Yang... The Pain of child birth was given AFTER they had sinned.... We will NEVER KNOW what child birth was like if they had NOT sinned. Sex is beautiful between a loving husband and a beautiful wife God said let no man/woman comes between the two... Satan entered in the picture and ruined Adam and Eve marriage= bore Cain and Abel. TWO different seeds.
Wow, that is quite a license of interpretation.
So, the Moriori, Australian Aborigines, Mexicans, and some South American tribes have a history that predates anything in the Bible with regard to a human presence.
Cave drawings and other depictions shows the presence of belly buttons....please explain?
ummm...the term mexican i believe didn't appear until after the spanish arrived in the area that history doesn't predate the bible before that it was the land of the aztecs, olmecs and maya...if one completely abandons the biblical timeline for things one might believe in the myths about the others you stated....
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Post by mountain on Oct 9, 2019 1:54:11 GMT -5
Belt buckles have nothing to do with reasoning as you’ve so said nor do they have anything to do with Revelations by the Holy Spirit! You are only guessing for you have no idea what different interpretations I’ve or am considering! That’s the cold facts, as far as I am to be concerned! You’ve resorted to insulting what the Holy Spirit has revealed to me and that is supposedly dangerous territory! The interesting thing about any discussion about Christ, who He is, His character and nature, is that it is impossible to read the Scriptures and not see that Christ is eternal, in very nature God, equal with God, shared glory with the Father before the world was created, gives life, forgives sin, raises the dead, raised Himself (it also says that the Father and HS raised Him in different places), controlled the weather, created all things, is in the Father and the Father in Him etc. In short, it is impossible to read Scripture and arrive at a conclusion that Jesus is not eternal and completely divine. In my view, if someone wants to argue that He is not part of the Godhead, is not divine, did not pre-exist etc, they’d have to read Scripture with a completely pre-determined view that they’re unwilling to change or like the JW’s write their own Bible which is a tragedy. It’s not worth arguing because Scripture is 100% clear on the complete divinity of our Lord and Saviour.
Nothing like trying to force your viewpoint onto others, eh Ross? The emboldened portions are clearly your opinion and are the worst example of tunnel vision ever presented on this board, and boy that is saying something. Believe what you will. What you have stated, in my opinion, is so far distant from the truth it is sheer fantasy. People make a lot of money out of stories like that. Ross, there are two kinds of people on this board. 1) Those who know the trinity is false doctrine, and 2) Those who have yet to realise it. One shakes one's head in wonder. Why do such ideas, imaginings and fables, ever gain currency? Thank goodness for the steadfastness of Virgs!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 9, 2019 4:00:24 GMT -5
The interesting thing about any discussion about Christ, who He is, His character and nature, is that it is impossible to read the Scriptures and not see that Christ is eternal, in very nature God, equal with God, shared glory with the Father before the world was created, gives life, forgives sin, raises the dead, raised Himself (it also says that the Father and HS raised Him in different places), controlled the weather, created all things, is in the Father and the Father in Him etc. In short, it is impossible to read Scripture and arrive at a conclusion that Jesus is not eternal and completely divine. In my view, if someone wants to argue that He is not part of the Godhead, is not divine, did not pre-exist etc, they’d have to read Scripture with a completely pre-determined view that they’re unwilling to change or like the JW’s write their own Bible which is a tragedy. It’s not worth arguing because Scripture is 100% clear on the complete divinity of our Lord and Saviour.
Nothing like trying to force your viewpoint onto others, eh Ross? The emboldened portions are clearly your opinion and are the worst example of tunnel vision ever presented on this board, and boy that is saying something. Believe what you will. What you have stated, in my opinion, is so far distant from the truth it is sheer fantasy. People make a lot of money out of stories like that. Ross, there are two kinds of people on this board. 1) Those who know the trinity is false doctrine, and 2) Those who have yet to realise it. One shakes one's head in wonder. Why do such ideas, imaginings and fables, ever gain currency? Thank goodness for the steadfastness of Virgs! I John 5:10 “...he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.” Philippians 2:6-8. Who being in very nature God, did not consider it equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; Hebrews 1:8. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom. It’s very, very shakey ground for people to defy the record the Father has left about his Son.
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