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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 25, 2015 20:42:36 GMT -5
Yes Dmm we have ! So lets get back to the topic The Church You Read About in The Bible !
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Post by Mary on Jan 25, 2015 20:43:59 GMT -5
ettu wrote: ...I accept anyone as a fellow Christian who accepts Jesus as his/her Lord and Savior and is trusting only in Him ... for their salvation. I don't care where they go to church. I don't care what they wear. I don't care who made the building they worship in.... I know two-by-twos who are genuine Christians because they are trusting in Christ ...
After reading the above, I had to say, yeah, y'know what, I believe that too..! This is good.
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So if you believe that why do you not meet with other Christians too?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 20:53:36 GMT -5
The way is not used as often as The truth. The Way was used more by the older folk. You do not seem to be denying that The truth is used as a name amongst you. Did people use these terms for their church in the NT?
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Post by Mary on Jan 25, 2015 20:57:22 GMT -5
So you are now trying to justify calling yourself the way and the truth. You have been saying all the long that you have no name and do not have a name, now you are trying to find a reason for having a name.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 25, 2015 21:03:58 GMT -5
"The Way" as I see it, refers to a manner of living, or what "path" we take in life, or even a moral a standard. Jesus' request, "Come follow me" sounded much like, "live as I live" with the exception when Jesus used it to ask some to literally follow him, or go into the Ministry. The Gospels give the testimony of those who witnessed Jesus. The Epistles give us the story of the church which Jesus founded. There shouldn't be any argument about this. And when it comes to something like holy days my own church does not believe them (other than the new Sabbath) because a - they were not a part of the first church b - we were warned about churches who started observing them c - implicit in the doctrine of the NT - no symbols other than the Eucharist. Bert where did Jesus say "Live as I live ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 21:05:42 GMT -5
oops somehow I created two posts the same... How does one delete a post? Click on the gear in the upper right part of the post box and select delete. Thanks for the help Greg, got it.
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Post by Mary on Jan 25, 2015 21:07:02 GMT -5
What about name Christian Conventions or variations of it. Did you know your church was registered just like any other church? That is your official name. Can you find the name Christian Conventions in the Bible? Surely we can pluck a verse in the Bible to justify that.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 25, 2015 21:09:42 GMT -5
MARKS OF THE ELECT Here are some good guidelines for our everyday living!
SOME OF THE MARKS OF THE ELECT
They are sincere in a world of "put-on".
They walk with open faces; they are transparent, having nothing to hide.
They have nothing to fear and speak from the heart.
There is no guile in them,
Being pure in heart, in mind, they cannot understand deceit or suspicion or evil in others.
They are loyal and never betray a friend or take advantage of an enemy.
They may suffer in the hands of others, but never return evil for evil.
Sorrow comes to them as it does to all, but they come forth from it as pure as gold.
Suffering does not sour them, but sweetens their spirits and teaches them lessons of pity and sympathy.
They are generous and what they do is done from pure motives. What to many would be a duty would be to them an opportunity.
They would be kind if all the world were cruel, and because there is no vanity in them, they do not suffer from praise. It does not spoil them.
They are humble, but do not know it, and of course, do not speak of it.
They are meek, but not the meekness of fear, which is slavish.
They do not boast of what they are, for they know God is to be thanked for any good that is in them, and they do not feel superior to others, although they are so.
Their goodness is an unconsciousness of itself and therefore pure.
They are gentle towards all and knowing what stuff men are made of, they are compassionate. When others look for faults in friends, they seek for virtues, and when they err from justice, the lean to mercy.
Their hearts beat to the world's needs, and thus are kept soft and in tune.
They are cheerful; their presence dispels the gloom from troubled hearts as the rising sun does the morning clouds.
No matter how heavy their own hearts are, they will smile and speak words of cheer.
They have learned that misery is diminished when shared by sympathy.
They help to carry the burdens of others, but never expect or ask theirs to be carried.
They have themselves under complete control. Their good temper is not dependent upon pleasant company, but at all times, under all circumstances, they sail on an even keel.
They are calm and serious in the midst of storms and because peace rules in their hearts, fear is far from them.
They draw needy and troubled souls to them and comfort all who mourn.
Their hearts are large enough to mother an orphan world.
To know them is to be made strong.
They are brave.
In time of stress and worry they are at their best.
Outward things only serve to perfect them.
When others lose head and heart, they are bolder than at other times.
They are honorable.
They have a deep, true faith in God, and take all that comes.
When others complain they give thanks.
Whatever their lot, they make the best of it and look at all that comes to them as better than they deserve.
They are free from envy and rejoice in others' good fortune as if it were their own.
They do not strive, but let an adversary have both sides of a dispute. In dark times they live in hope.
-George Walker- 1877-1981
"The way of God: It is a walkway and not a talkway. It is a proven way, a protected way, and a humble way. It is a lighted way, one need not stumble therein."
George Walker was an old servant of God who lived more than 100 years. To those of us who were privileged to rub shoulders with him, we knew of a humble spiritual giant in our midst.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 25, 2015 21:11:26 GMT -5
What about name Christian Conventions or variations of it. Did you know your church was registered just like any other church? That is your official name. Can you find the name Christian Conventions in the Bible? Surely we can pluck a verse in the Bible to justify that. Christian Conventions Of Victoria, there is one to check about ! Even got an ABN number ! Listed as a Charity !
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Post by Greg on Jan 25, 2015 21:21:03 GMT -5
What about name Christian Conventions or variations of it. Did you know your church was registered just like any other church? That is your official name. Can you find the name Christian Conventions in the Bible? Surely we can pluck a verse in the Bible to justify that. Not really "just like any other church." There might be a few (3 - 5) or more that have officially registered as a church with a federal or national government. I do not know of any registration for tax-exempt or non-profit (not for profit) organization status, which I think is what most churches do. From what I have read, the few registrations by the friends and workers (the powers that be workers, that is) has been for minister/preacher/worker access to a country and for conscientious objector status.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 21:28:50 GMT -5
What about name Christian Conventions or variations of it. Did you know your church was registered just like any other church? That is your official name. Can you find the name Christian Conventions in the Bible? Surely we can pluck a verse in the Bible to justify that. There is no reference to Jesus calling Himself "Christian" either. How you live your life shouldn't come with a religious name. The name "Christian" was pejorative and worn as a badge of honor. It was also useful for Roman administration purposes. But again... those people who followed Jesus did not call themselves Christian.
If you have found a name then please let us know.
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Post by Greg on Jan 25, 2015 21:36:12 GMT -5
What about name Christian Conventions or variations of it. Did you know your church was registered just like any other church? That is your official name. Can you find the name Christian Conventions in the Bible? Surely we can pluck a verse in the Bible to justify that. Christian Conventions Of Victoria, there is one to check about ! Even got an ABN number ! Listed as a Charity ! From a PDF. Search Christian Conventions of Victoria for more info. Name - Christian Conventions Of Victoria Other Name Charity ABN - 33833155319 Charity Address for Service - CCoVmail@gmail.com Charity Street Address - 523 Neerim Rd Murrumbeena VIC 3163 AUSTRALIA Website E-Mail ccovmail@gmail.com Phone Charity Details About the Charity Date Established - 01/01/1929 Who the Charity Benefits - Other beneficiaries not listed Size of Charity - Small Financial Year End - 30/06 Where the Charity Operates Operating State(s) - TAS VIC acnc.gov.au 1/26/2015 1:22:03 PM ACNC Charity Register Summary Christian Conventions Of Victoria
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Post by CherieKropp on Jan 25, 2015 21:40:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 21:54:41 GMT -5
Quote - "Bert where did Jesus say "Live as I live ?"
Just about in every chapter. You won't read that in the Secret Sect, of course, because its philosophy is that all ways lead to God, even those Jesus himself never walked or asked anyone else to walk.
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Post by Mary on Jan 25, 2015 21:58:25 GMT -5
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Post by Mary on Jan 25, 2015 22:18:20 GMT -5
Churches do it for a good cause Nathan. Mostly to avoid confusion.They do not use the mask that we are the true church so don't need a name. What I grew up with was all other churches were a break away from us so they need a name but we don't because we are fronm Jesus and Jesus never had a name (for his/Our church).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 22:20:18 GMT -5
Oh okay... let's ignore e.v.er.y.t.h.i.n.g relating to this matter and play the game....
Christian Conventions of Victoria.
Is this Victoria as in the state of Victoria? If so, who do Americans call themselves? Or, maybe, Christian Conventions of Victoria refers to the Victorian era? What do you think?
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Post by CherieKropp on Jan 25, 2015 22:28:02 GMT -5
Bert: Good questions, Bert. I asked the same thing myself. I find its always a good idea to clarify any ambiguous terms. Check out the address of the organization. Do a reverse lookup of the address. It belongs to some Robinsons. As in John Robinson maybe? Bruce Robinson? Also notice when it was created: 1929--in Bill Carroll's time. If you havent already read it, I suggest you check out the thread Christian Conventions of Victoriaand bring yourself up to speed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 22:36:35 GMT -5
So, Christian Conventions of Victoria is the s.e.c.r.e.t name the American friends call themselves?
If so then c.l.e.a.r.l.y the name "Victorian" is some coded message for Victorian era values?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 25, 2015 23:06:52 GMT -5
Quote - "Bert where did Jesus say "Live as I live ?" Just about in every chapter. You won't read that in the Secret Sect, of course, because its philosophy is that all ways lead to God, even those Jesus himself never walked or asked anyone else to walk.Bert can you please give me the Chapter & verses where Jesus said: Live as I live ? Did he say live as he lived in the Bible days ? Are we suppose to dress how he dressed ? Or what exactly do you mean by "live as he lived" ?
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Post by CherieKropp on Jan 25, 2015 23:07:02 GMT -5
So, Christian Conventions of Victoria is the s.e.c.r.e.t name the American friends call themselves? If so then c.l.e.a.r.l.y the name "Victorian" is some coded message for Victorian era values? You're being silly, Bert.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 25, 2015 23:09:24 GMT -5
So, Christian Conventions of Victoria is the s.e.c.r.e.t name the American friends call themselves? If so then c.l.e.a.r.l.y the name "Victorian" is some coded message for Victorian era values? Bert open your eyes ! Can't you read what Cherie has posted? Don't you know what an ABN is !
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 25, 2015 23:10:46 GMT -5
So, Christian Conventions of Victoria is the s.e.c.r.e.t name the American friends call themselves? If so then c.l.e.a.r.l.y the name "Victorian" is some coded message for Victorian era values? You're being silly, Bert. Maybe he is still living in the Victorian Era !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 23:13:36 GMT -5
Quote - "So, Christian Conventions of Victoria is the s.e.c.r.e.t name the American friends call themselves? If so then c.l.e.a.r.l.y the name "Victorian" is some coded message for Victorian era values?"
You're being silly, Bert.
Quote - "Bert can you please give me the Chapter & verses where Jesus said: Live as I live ? Did he say live as he lived in the Bible days ? Are we suppose to dress how he dressed ? Or what exactly do you mean by "live as he lived"?
Quote - "Bert open your eyes ! Can't you read what Cherie has posted? Don't you know what an ABN is !"
The level of debate here is pretty low.
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Post by Mary on Jan 25, 2015 23:17:03 GMT -5
Nathan the Christian Convention Church does not give to charities or the needy that is why you don't hear about it. How come you know about it if no one knows about it? The Faith Mission came down the mainstream denominational line and Wiliam Irvine broke away from them so they are from the Catholic line. Most churches are honest about it.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 25, 2015 23:17:35 GMT -5
Quote - "So, Christian Conventions of Victoria is the s.e.c.r.e.t name the American friends call themselves? If so then c.l.e.a.r.l.y the name "Victorian" is some coded message for Victorian era values?" You're being silly, Bert. Quote - "Bert can you please give me the Chapter & verses where Jesus said: Live as I live ? Did he say live as he lived in the Bible days ? Are we suppose to dress how he dressed ? Or what exactly do you mean by "live as he lived"? Quote - "Bert open your eyes ! Can't you read what Cherie has posted? Don't you know what an ABN is !" The level of debate here is pretty low.Is that the best you have Bert ! You have made a statement now back it up !
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 25, 2015 23:22:03 GMT -5
Or is it too big of a shock to realise that you too have been lied to for so many years !!! All the no-name, no money rubbish is starting to prove to be lies is it Bert ! But of course you could never admit that !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 23:23:35 GMT -5
Yes, it's true!!!! You can go to any American convention and there you will see the secret Christian Convention of Victorianites, riding camels, checking their ABN's.
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