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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 6, 2014 21:33:03 GMT -5
Didn't the biblical quote contain the phrase: Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you;Sounds like animals qualify as food. Humans would also qualify as food - right? What are your thoughts on that? Yes, my pet lion find humans delicious. In the short term, yes, human flesh will sustain life rather satisfactorily. The problem is that sustained eating of one's own species causes something like mad cow disease happened in cows.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 6, 2014 21:34:34 GMT -5
Didn't the biblical quote contain the phrase: Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you;Sounds like animals qualify as food. Humans would also qualify as food - right? What are your thoughts on that? I think that must have started the custom of Noah and his family eating flesh. There would be so much of it lying around, and they wouldn't have to comit murder to get it.
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Post by snow on Jul 6, 2014 21:39:13 GMT -5
Never mind the devastation from all that water for so long, also what the salt water would have done to any vegetation. After all, this was a worldwide flood so that would mean there would be salt water involved. I think God must have created a soft antibiotic mist that rose out of the ground in the cool of the day and cleansed the earth of all past iniquity. Haha, but we just couldn't leave it well enough alone and here we are... iniquity everywhere and if Bert is to be believed, just getting worse by the minute!
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 6, 2014 23:11:58 GMT -5
I think God must have created a soft antibiotic mist that rose out of the ground in the cool of the day and cleansed the earth of all past iniquity. Haha, but we just couldn't leave it well enough alone and here we are... iniquity everywhere and if Bert is to be believed, just getting worse by the minute! I don't know -- I think we've forgotten more than we remembered. Some of those ancient things that people did seem truly extatifying, but no one wants to do that any more. It's all this boring stuff, and nothing new under the sun. What has this world come to now?
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Post by rational on Jul 7, 2014 6:07:32 GMT -5
Didn't the biblical quote contain the phrase: Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you;Sounds like animals qualify as food. Humans would also qualify as food - right? What are your thoughts on that? They certainly do. Dead humans don't simply melt away. And there are many other species that thinks man looks a lot like dinner. Perhaps human empathy prevents one person from looking at another as potential food stock! Although, if you're hungry...
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Post by rational on Jul 7, 2014 6:10:40 GMT -5
Haha, but we just couldn't leave it well enough alone and here we are... iniquity everywhere and if Bert is to be believed, just getting worse by the minute! I don't know -- I think we've forgotten more than we remembered. Some of those ancient things that people did seem truly extatifying, but no one wants to do that any more. It's all this boring stuff, and nothing new under the sun. What has this world come to now? extatifying?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jul 7, 2014 12:56:53 GMT -5
Early biblical times people lived long years....well, they were vegetarians....however also we read that people's sins were noted by different body diseases and/or problems. Didn't the biblical quote contain the phrase: Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you;Sounds like animals qualify as food. It wasn't so at the first.....Gen 1:29 "28God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth." 29Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food"; and it was so.…" No evidence that man consumed animal flesh until after the flood in Noah's day...this also was noted by God: Gen 9:3 3"Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant." Please note that even that which you quoted speaks of God having given the "green plant" previously!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jul 7, 2014 13:05:55 GMT -5
Humans would also qualify as food - right? What are your thoughts on that? Yes, my pet lion find humans delicious. In the short term, yes, human flesh will sustain life rather satisfactorily. The problem is that sustained eating of one's own species causes something like mad cow disease happened in cows. I remembered a story I read about a covered wagon expedition going to CA sometime probably about the time of the beginning of the gold rush...but anyway this particular group was kind of pushing late into the year and there was only one place they could c ross the Rocky Mountains in CO. they met up with all kinds of problems and finally the few that were left made it to the top of the pass in CO. and they were looking to see where to bury their recent dead and so they found the ground covered in deep snow and frozed deeper then that....so the leader assigned a particular tight built cabin and they put their dead folk in there until the spring thaw or so that was their initial plan. They ran out of food, the wild animals were closing in on them and they were getting too weak to help themselves or protect themselves and others...so they final decided they'd have to eat part of the frozen flesh of their recent dead! It was a shock for many of them to do it, but their survival depended on their getting food somehow.....and when the wild life begin to circle that cabin they had to begin to set up guards around that cabin for the grizzlies wanted to shake it down or tear it down and they knew once it started down there'd be no way to stop the grizzlies and when the grizzlies and other wild animals took their fill, that th epeople alive would be their target next! Just the wild life getting a taste of human flesh would set them onto the smell of the life people and realizing that there was still game there! I hated that book...seems it was a requirement in one of my college courses....it was that one or something sci-fi and I do not like sci fi! lah!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jul 7, 2014 13:11:24 GMT -5
Early biblical times people lived long years....well, they were vegetarians....however also we read that people's sins were noted by different body diseases and/or problems. But thinking about early man beginning to eat animal flesh, fish and eggs...they would have not had a cookbook on how to cook them to prevent the passing of various diseases from eating said meats. It does say that Noah and sons had built an altar and sacrificed clean animals and ate of those sacrifices, but we know if they sacrificed that much of animal meat then perhaps the cooking of it wasn't timely or hot enough either....so there on began to be the process of diseases passing into man.... With all due respect, you know that this is nothing more than an uneducated guess at how the Bible story could be true as told. I find it quite fanciful that the minute Noah stepped out of the ark life resumed as usual, and there is no mention of the mess left in its wake. I don't know where you got it that NOah stepped right off that boat and life went right on as before! FAct is Noah lived on that boat for a certain time...he sent birds out to find out what was out there and until the dove returned with an olive branch twig, he did not open that ark door. Now think about it! How long does it take an olive tree to grow? Particularly as Snow puts it, having been dusted with salt water the ground likely would have NOT been able to sprout an olive tree for a couple of years and washing rains in between. The story of Noah has to be considered in a different light then thinking it is all reported per se, IMO. There's just hints here and there that there was a whole lot more time that passed before Noah and his family and all of his good and bad animals exited onto a fertile soil!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jul 7, 2014 13:23:58 GMT -5
it wasn't me that tried to link eating meat with diseases i think you should really ask sharingtheriches...but yahoo had an article today trying to link breast cancer with eating red meat i don't neccesarily believe that... I don't believe it of necessity either -- I just believe in he logic of it. Seems nearly every day we see "red meat consumption" in the news and that it has disastrous affects on human lives! So since mankind has taken and domesticated the all sweet lowing cow and her offspring and raise such to feed their family and sell the rest to feed other people's family that the increase in diseases over the years have increases seemingly along the lines of the increasingly selling of red meat for human consumption! I think there's a lot of truth in those who name red meat as one thing that caused in increases the event of certain health issues, from my own experiences! Also strangely enough, my husband did not like cooked chicken, he was into beef and ham......and that's what we mostly had...I got him started on some chicken by Buffalo hot business. Otherwise he never got any chicken....he said that chicken just got bigger the longer he chewed it....so I could understand his aversion to it. I can no longer cooked chicken from stage of raw to stage of complete cooked for serving and eat any of it.....that smell as it starts to cook gets me every time. I even can't eat it the next day either! Someone else can cook chicken and I can usually eat some of it. My husband loved ham and he didn't like fresh pork chops but loved cured pork chops....so he got his ham one way or another....lah! I know that I've order pork chops in a restaurant and when I sliced into it for my first bite and it was pink and running blood...I was finished...I can't stand the smell of half cooked pork! But Trichinosis seems to be a fairly common disease found amongst pork eaters....and yes, I know it's from eaten poorly cooked pork, etc
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Post by rational on Jul 7, 2014 13:36:36 GMT -5
Didn't the biblical quote contain the phrase: Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you;Sounds like animals qualify as food. It wasn't so at the first.....Gen 1:29 "28God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth." 29Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food"; and it was so.…" No evidence that man consumed animal flesh until after the flood in Noah's day...this also was noted by God: Gen 9:3 3"Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant." Please note that even that which you quoted speaks of God having given the "green plant" previously! Sounds like there were only herbivores! No doubt the carnivores were not at all happy! Or healthy.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 7, 2014 15:20:42 GMT -5
I don't know -- I think we've forgotten more than we remembered. Some of those ancient things that people did seem truly extatifying, but no one wants to do that any more. It's all this boring stuff, and nothing new under the sun. What has this world come to now? extatifying? Yes. It's wonderful. Everyone should try it.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 7, 2014 15:28:29 GMT -5
With all due respect, you know that this is nothing more than an uneducated guess at how the Bible story could be true as told. I find it quite fanciful that the minute Noah stepped out of the ark life resumed as usual, and there is no mention of the mess left in its wake. I don't know where you got it that NOah stepped right off that boat and life went right on as before! FAct is Noah lived on that boat for a certain time...he sent birds out to find out what was out there and until the dove returned with an olive branch twig, he did not open that ark door. Now think about it! How long does it take an olive tree to grow? Particularly as Snow puts it, having been dusted with salt water the ground likely would have NOT been able to sprout an olive tree for a couple of years and washing rains in between. The story of Noah has to be considered in a different light then thinking it is all reported per se, IMO. There's just hints here and there that there was a whole lot more time that passed before Noah and his family and all of his good and bad animals exited onto a fertile soil! Now are you agreeing with me or disagreeing? Anyway, according to the Bible Noah did indeed step off the boat, however, there is recorded not a single mention of any disadvantage of life for him after the flood. In fact, after all the animals on earth were killed, he got to eat the ones that had been saved in the ark.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 7, 2014 15:34:14 GMT -5
I don't believe it of necessity either -- I just believe in he logic of it. Seems nearly every day we see "red meat consumption" in the news and that it has disastrous affects on human lives! So since mankind has taken and domesticated the all sweet lowing cow and her offspring and raise such to feed their family and sell the rest to feed other people's family that the increase in diseases over the years have increases seemingly along the lines of the increasingly selling of red meat for human consumption! I think there's a lot of truth in those who name red meat as one thing that caused in increases the event of certain health issues, from my own experiences! Also strangely enough, my husband did not like cooked chicken, he was into beef and ham......and that's what we mostly had...I got him started on some chicken by Buffalo hot business. Otherwise he never got any chicken....he said that chicken just got bigger the longer he chewed it....so I could understand his aversion to it. I can no longer cooked chicken from stage of raw to stage of complete cooked for serving and eat any of it.....that smell as it starts to cook gets me every time. I even can't eat it the next day either! Someone else can cook chicken and I can usually eat some of it. My husband loved ham and he didn't like fresh pork chops but loved cured pork chops....so he got his ham one way or another....lah! I know that I've order pork chops in a restaurant and when I sliced into it for my first bite and it was pink and running blood...I was finished...I can't stand the smell of half cooked pork! But Trichinosis seems to be a fairly common disease found amongst pork eaters....and yes, I know it's from eaten poorly cooked pork, etc It's not the red meat that causes cancer -- it's too much of it that causes cancer. It upsets the balance of the healthy human body and interferes with the body's immune function. Kind of like walking in the street. Walking in the street will never hurt you -- it's really good for your health. But if you insist on walking in the street too long, it can cause things that can kill you. People can even overdose on water.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 7, 2014 16:01:07 GMT -5
Diseases used to be called being possessed by evil spirits. Early biblical times people lived long years....well, they were vegetarians....however also we read that people's sins were noted by different body diseases and/or problems. But thinking about early man beginning to eat animal flesh, fish and eggs...they would have not had a cookbook on how to cook them to prevent the passing of various diseases from eating said meats. It does say that Noah and sons had built an altar and sacrificed clean animals and ate of those sacrifices, but we know if they sacrificed that much of animal meat then perhaps the cooking of it wasn't timely or hot enough either....so there on began to be the process of diseases passing into man....though it has been said by vets that diseases won't cross species...but I've seen some that do...which likely are exceptions to the rule! I had a Boston Terrier female that always took my colds and/or flu when I had them...and bless her heart she really suffered with them being so pugged nosed! The other Boston Terrers I had never got my cold or hers and that was something strange...the vets couldn't explain that one other then she had gotten my cold or flu. Hold it! Wait a minute now! If we are going to figure out whether human's were vegetarians and/or carnivores and one MUST go by the bible to establish this, -don't forget Cain & Abel!
One tended the animals and one was a farmer.
Who was left? the one that tended the animals, -in fact his was the one whose "sacrifice was pleasing to the Lord."
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jul 8, 2014 9:21:47 GMT -5
It wasn't so at the first.....Gen 1:29 "28God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth." 29Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food"; and it was so.…" No evidence that man consumed animal flesh until after the flood in Noah's day...this also was noted by God: Gen 9:3 3"Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant." Please note that even that which you quoted speaks of God having given the "green plant" previously! Sounds like there were only herbivores! No doubt the carnivores were not at all happy! Or healthy. Plenty of roughage no doubt...I noticed that it says they were to eat the herb of the fields that bore seed....well, seems that's what we do these days, eh? What with wheat, oats, bran, corn, etc So perhaps those carnivores were satisfied with the fields of corn? Perhaps this is when the dinosaurs got really vicious, and that is because the humans were eating up that which the dinosaurs were depending on satisfying their appetites? I'm just glad I wasn't there at the beginning of whatever! ha ha
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jul 8, 2014 9:26:48 GMT -5
Early biblical times people lived long years....well, they were vegetarians....however also we read that people's sins were noted by different body diseases and/or problems. But thinking about early man beginning to eat animal flesh, fish and eggs...they would have not had a cookbook on how to cook them to prevent the passing of various diseases from eating said meats. It does say that Noah and sons had built an altar and sacrificed clean animals and ate of those sacrifices, but we know if they sacrificed that much of animal meat then perhaps the cooking of it wasn't timely or hot enough either....so there on began to be the process of diseases passing into man....though it has been said by vets that diseases won't cross species...but I've seen some that do...which likely are exceptions to the rule! I had a Boston Terrier female that always took my colds and/or flu when I had them...and bless her heart she really suffered with them being so pugged nosed! The other Boston Terrers I had never got my cold or hers and that was something strange...the vets couldn't explain that one other then she had gotten my cold or flu. Hold it! Wait a minute now! If we are going to figure out whether human's were vegetarians and/or carnivores and one MUST go by the bible to establish this, -don't forget Cain & Abel!
One tended the animals and one was a farmer.
Who was left? the one that tended the animals, -in fact his was the one whose "sacrifice was pleasing to the Lord."
It was his "sacrifice" that was pleasing to the Lord. Again remember what another brother sold to his brother for his birthright and that was a pottage or what I guess we'd called cream of wheat, oats or something...it still was herb of the field....It isn't spoken of the "okay" to EAT the animals until AFTER NOah landed the ark and finally escaped out of it.....naturally all he had at that time were animals.....but again Noah had not begun to eat animals until God told him that He gave him the clean animals to eat as God had given them the green plants of the field. I always thought that to mean that Noah'a sacrifice was totally burnt up on the altar of sacrifice and NOah nor any of his family partook of animal flesh until God told him it was alright. I doubt man's mental abilities were quite as developed as your's or Rat's in those days. NOt much experience by forefathers, etc to teach them such...not much Wikipedia infor, etc lah!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jul 8, 2014 9:31:23 GMT -5
Would they not then be responsible for all the genetic diseases/conditions? Well if we all came from such a small gene pool... All of that inbreeding that seemed to be absolutely necessary in order to populate the earth perhaps had some bearing on genetic problems....it does these days any way and it was said once in my hearing that for inbreeding now for animal or human these days it is very bad because we're already inbred several times during our fore, fore fathers' time.....plus eating inbred animals? Now we're into breeding our animals/fowls/fish we eat with all kinds of laboratory improvements...so what can we expect?
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Post by snow on Jul 8, 2014 12:32:21 GMT -5
Well if we all came from such a small gene pool... All of that inbreeding that seemed to be absolutely necessary in order to populate the earth perhaps had some bearing on genetic problems....it does these days any way and it was said once in my hearing that for inbreeding now for animal or human these days it is very bad because we're already inbred several times during our fore, fore fathers' time.....plus eating inbred animals? Now we're into breeding our animals/fowls/fish we eat with all kinds of laboratory improvements...so what can we expect? For me this is another reason why I don't believe humanity started from just 2 people and then Noah's family. Too small a gene pool, too many issues.
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Post by xna on Jul 8, 2014 14:21:08 GMT -5
All of that inbreeding that seemed to be absolutely necessary in order to populate the earth perhaps had some bearing on genetic problems....it does these days any way and it was said once in my hearing that for inbreeding now for animal or human these days it is very bad because we're already inbred several times during our fore, fore fathers' time.....plus eating inbred animals? Now we're into breeding our animals/fowls/fish we eat with all kinds of laboratory improvements...so what can we expect? For me this is another reason why I don't believe humanity started from just 2 people and then Noah's family. Too small a gene pool, too many issues. Or a gene pool of one, if you believe the rib story.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 8, 2014 16:21:43 GMT -5
Hold it! Wait a minute now! If we are going to figure out whether human's were vegetarians and/or carnivores and one MUST go by the bible to establish this, -don't forget Cain & Abel!
One tended the animals and one was a farmer.
Who was left? the one that tended the animals, -in fact his was the one whose "sacrifice was pleasing to the Lord."
It was his "sacrifice" that was pleasing to the Lord. Again remember what another brother sold to his brother for his birthright and that was a pottage or what I guess we'd called cream of wheat, oats or something...it still was herb of the field....It isn't spoken of the "okay" to EAT the animals until AFTER NOah landed the ark and finally escaped out of it.....naturally all he had at that time were animals.....but again Noah had not begun to eat animals until God told him that He gave him the clean animals to eat as God had given them the green plants of the field. I always thought that to mean that Noah'a sacrifice was totally burnt up on the altar of sacrifice and NOah nor any of his family partook of animal flesh until God told him it was alright. I doubt man's mental abilities were quite as developed as your's or Rat's in those days. NOt much experience by forefathers, etc to teach them such...not much Wikipedia infor, etc lah! The only sacrifices that were not eaten (by people) were "whole burnt offerings". Other offerings were consumed. The offering part was in the "giving of life", not the "loss of food".
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Post by rational on Jul 8, 2014 16:22:20 GMT -5
Well if we all came from such a small gene pool... All of that inbreeding that seemed to be absolutely necessary in order to populate the earth perhaps had some bearing on genetic problems....it does these days any way and it was said once in my hearing that for inbreeding now for animal or human these days it is very bad because we're already inbred several times during our fore, fore fathers' time.....plus eating inbred animals? Now we're into breeding our animals/fowls/fish we eat with all kinds of laboratory improvements...so what can we expect? Plants that produce higher yields? Plants that are drought resistant? Plants that are not killed by some herbicides? Glow in the dark animals will be easier to hunt!
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 8, 2014 16:26:06 GMT -5
All of that inbreeding that seemed to be absolutely necessary in order to populate the earth perhaps had some bearing on genetic problems....it does these days any way and it was said once in my hearing that for inbreeding now for animal or human these days it is very bad because we're already inbred several times during our fore, fore fathers' time.....plus eating inbred animals? Now we're into breeding our animals/fowls/fish we eat with all kinds of laboratory improvements...so what can we expect? For me this is another reason why I don't believe humanity started from just 2 people and then Noah's family. Too small a gene pool, too many issues. Don't tell them what really happened -- they will all vomit.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 8, 2014 16:27:41 GMT -5
All of that inbreeding that seemed to be absolutely necessary in order to populate the earth perhaps had some bearing on genetic problems....it does these days any way and it was said once in my hearing that for inbreeding now for animal or human these days it is very bad because we're already inbred several times during our fore, fore fathers' time.....plus eating inbred animals? Now we're into breeding our animals/fowls/fish we eat with all kinds of laboratory improvements...so what can we expect? Plants that produce higher yields? Plants that are drought resistant? Plants that are not killed by some herbicides? Glow in the dark animals will be easier to hunt! Maybe if we let all the cows go loose so we could hunt them, the beef would be better for us.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jul 9, 2014 11:10:32 GMT -5
All of that inbreeding that seemed to be absolutely necessary in order to populate the earth perhaps had some bearing on genetic problems....it does these days any way and it was said once in my hearing that for inbreeding now for animal or human these days it is very bad because we're already inbred several times during our fore, fore fathers' time.....plus eating inbred animals? Now we're into breeding our animals/fowls/fish we eat with all kinds of laboratory improvements...so what can we expect? For me this is another reason why I don't believe humanity started from just 2 people and then Noah's family. Too small a gene pool, too many issues. Well, the way I look at it, is that when God had to kick Adam and Eve out of the garden of Paradise...he likely decided He should make more humans out of the dust and dew so that they could populate the earth! There isn't anything in the bible that speaks for that or certainly nothing against God doing such a thing....I believe He likely did form more humans. And I'm not certain the "rib" story is what we should believe....just a story to show the woman was subject to the man!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jul 9, 2014 11:17:22 GMT -5
Plants that produce higher yields? Plants that are drought resistant? Plants that are not killed by some herbicides? Glow in the dark animals will be easier to hunt! Maybe if we let all the cows go loose so we could hunt them, the beef would be better for us. You might have a point...at least the cattle would be moving continually to find the best grazing! And if a cow is happy with her food, she becomes quite the real heifer for milk and/or beef! Good grass grazed beef is good beef. It comes in second to the grain fed beef as to flavor and meat quality! But of course, we always have to watch the "age" of the animal for human consumption....trying to butcher a 10 year old bull stud for beef consumption will likely put everybody off of beef consumption...usually stringy, tough and often smells pretty strong. If a farmer sends such an animal to the sale barn he would expect the dog and cat food people to buy it! And of course, it likely would bring less per lb. but not always so. My nephew works for a dog treat and food factory in Topeka, KS and he says they are very picky of the quality of ingredients they use there.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 9, 2014 12:38:51 GMT -5
Maybe if we let all the cows go loose so we could hunt them, the beef would be better for us. You might have a point...at least the cattle would be moving continually to find the best grazing! And if a cow is happy with her food, she becomes quite the real heifer for milk and/or beef! Good grass grazed beef is good beef. It comes in second to the grain fed beef as to flavor and meat quality! But of course, we always have to watch the "age" of the animal for human consumption....trying to butcher a 10 year old bull stud for beef consumption will likely put everybody off of beef consumption...usually stringy, tough and often smells pretty strong. If a farmer sends such an animal to the sale barn he would expect the dog and cat food people to buy it! And of course, it likely would bring less per lb. but not always so. My nephew works for a dog treat and food factory in Topeka, KS and he says they are very picky of the quality of ingredients they use there. I didn't expect you would consider my proposition practical. We actually owe the lives of most of humanity to what we've done with the food supply.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 9, 2014 12:42:27 GMT -5
For me this is another reason why I don't believe humanity started from just 2 people and then Noah's family. Too small a gene pool, too many issues. Well, the way I look at it, is that when God had to kick Adam and Eve out of the garden of Paradise...he likely decided He should make more humans out of the dust and dew so that they could populate the earth! There isn't anything in the bible that speaks for that or certainly nothing against God doing such a thing....I believe He likely did form more humans. And I'm not certain the "rib" story is what we should believe....just a story to show the woman was subject to the man! Sounds like "adding to" and "taking away" -- doesn't it? Of course, it makes as much sense as most other fundamentalist type interpretations, as long as God broke the rules it must be true.
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