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Post by peacefulheart on Jul 2, 2014 22:47:40 GMT -5
I'm sure the kids loved you too! A great sense of humor and you had fun with them....I remember having teachers like that, it gave me something to look forward to every day at school. There were the teachers who took things wayyyyyy to serious and didn't even know how to smile, that was the class no one wanted to go to for sure, ha! One of the things I really tried to do with the really violent kids is teach them a sense of humor. They take life too seriously and have no concept of just letting the rules of society take care of things. The meanest 15 year old I ever met hugged me before they took him off to state prison. I never got beat up once -- I ducked punches very quickly. Good job on the ducking-LOL! It says a lot that the kid hugged you...I'd say you were making a difference in those kids lives!
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 2, 2014 23:38:29 GMT -5
One of the things I really tried to do with the really violent kids is teach them a sense of humor. They take life too seriously and have no concept of just letting the rules of society take care of things. The meanest 15 year old I ever met hugged me before they took him off to state prison. I never got beat up once -- I ducked punches very quickly. Good job on the ducking-LOL! It says a lot that the kid hugged you...I'd say you were making a difference in those kids lives! It always surprised me who it was to thanked me the most. I will never forget the graduation day when one of my students came to me and thanked me for "saving his life". What did I ever do to save his life. "Your first period government class was so interesting that I stopped getting high the night before so I could get everything you told us." He dropped by three years later to tell me that he had signed up for an archaeological tour in the Middle East. Observing kids learning was totally fascinating.
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Post by peacefulheart on Jul 3, 2014 0:14:32 GMT -5
Good job on the ducking-LOL! It says a lot that the kid hugged you...I'd say you were making a difference in those kids lives! It always surprised me who it was to thanked me the most. I will never forget the graduation day when one of my students came to me and thanked me for "saving his life". What did I ever do to save his life. "Your first period government class was so interesting that I stopped getting high the night before so I could get everything you told us." He dropped by three years later to tell me that he had signed up for an archaeological tour in the Middle East. Observing kids learning was totally fascinating. That is so cool, what a rewarding career!
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Post by rational on Jul 3, 2014 0:29:25 GMT -5
42 years, wow that's a long time & a LOT of patience :) But I was having a lot of fun too. Otherwise I'd never have been able to do it. Best job I ever had!
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Post by peacefulheart on Jul 3, 2014 0:59:25 GMT -5
But I was having a lot of fun too. Otherwise I'd never have been able to do it. Best job I ever had! Rational, you were a teacher too?
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Post by rational on Jul 3, 2014 2:40:41 GMT -5
Rational, you were a teacher too? Yes, I was.
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Post by Annan on Jul 3, 2014 9:20:49 GMT -5
Rational, you were a teacher too? Yes, I was. And you still are a teacher in that you are always challenging us to think outside the box.
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Post by peacefulheart on Jul 3, 2014 10:07:03 GMT -5
And you still are a teacher in that you are always challenging us to think outside the box. Annan, this is so true...he is still teaching.
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Post by rational on Jul 4, 2014 7:24:27 GMT -5
And you still are a teacher in that you are always challenging us to think outside the box. :) Annan, this is so true...he is still teaching. :) I appreciate these comments. I wasn't going to respond but - well, you know! For those of us who are lazy, traditional teaching is far too much work. Lectures/lessons to prepare, syllabuses to create, tests to create and grade, etc. I quickly discovered that all you had to do was to get the students interested, ask them questions that challenged their beliefs, ask them questions that stimulated their interests, provide them with the opportunity to prove the teacher wrong, and they will teach themselves. A rewarding moment came when a student returned for a visit and said(as best I can remember it): "You know, I never missed your classes because we just sat around and bullsh itted about interesting stuff. It wasn't until I started college that I found out how much learning you had sneaked in while we were looking the other way! You taught us how to learn."
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Post by peacefulheart on Jul 4, 2014 21:51:45 GMT -5
Annan, this is so true...he is still teaching. I appreciate these comments. I wasn't going to respond but - well, you know! For those of us who are lazy, traditional teaching is far too much work. Lectures/lessons to prepare, syllabuses to create, tests to create and grade, etc. I quickly discovered that all you had to do was to get the students interested, ask them questions that challenged their beliefs, ask them questions that stimulated their interests, provide them with the opportunity to prove the teacher wrong, and they will teach themselves. A rewarding moment came when a student returned for a visit and said(as best I can remember it): "You know, I never missed your classes because we just sat around and bullsh itted about interesting stuff. It wasn't until I started college that I found out how much learning you had sneaked in while we were looking the other way! You taught us how to learn." Rational, that's awesome! That's a great teacher to be able to keep conversation going with interest. It is not easy to learn if it is so dull and boring. Challenging the kids beliefs with interesting questions would absolutely get the wheels in the head turning more! I know it does mine . Now I understand better as to why your responses to posts involve questioning so often -ph-
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Post by Annan on Jul 5, 2014 7:42:19 GMT -5
Challenging the kids beliefs with interesting questions would absolutely get the wheels in the head turning more! I know it does mine . I remember a pastor once saying that Jesus taught in parables so that those who God had called would hear and understand. Coming from a Jewish heritage, I know very well that parables are a very typical Jewish way of teaching. My father taught us children in parables. While it was frustrating at times, it forced us kids to think and reason for ourselves. I never used parables with my children, but I would ask them questions to get them to think and reason the answer for themselves. I taught them that what is an acceptable answer for me might not be an acceptable answer for someone else. I taught my children not to accept, but to think, reason, taste and see.
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Post by rational on Jul 5, 2014 9:09:13 GMT -5
I never used parables with my children, but I would ask them questions to get them to think and reason the answer for themselves. I taught them that what is an acceptable answer for me might not be an acceptable answer for someone else. I taught my children not to accept, but to think, reason, taste and see. And I would be remiss if I did not ask you why you felt that was the right thing to do!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jul 5, 2014 10:05:50 GMT -5
But I was having a lot of fun too. Otherwise I'd never have been able to do it. I'm sure the kids loved you too! A great sense of humor and you had fun with them....I remember having teachers like that, it gave me something to look forward to every day at school. There were the teachers who took things wayyyyyy to serious and didn't even know how to smile, that was the class no one wanted to go to for sure, ha! Reminded me of my one of my history professors in college....he was a big joker and was able to hold the young folks attention and we all got to laugh frequently over his vocal interpretations of the day's lesson. However when it came to testing time, that which was on the test wasn't HOW he had presented the subject matter at all and for the first several weeks none of us passed the tests! Finally one of the history major students, himself went to the CEO of the college to complain that the lectures were nothing but a laugh and literally at that...no one was immune to the professor's style of funny! But when the tests came down on our desks there was nothing on those tests that were even close to what his lectures were.
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Post by Annan on Jul 5, 2014 11:54:41 GMT -5
I never used parables with my children, but I would ask them questions to get them to think and reason the answer for themselves. I taught them that what is an acceptable answer for me might not be an acceptable answer for someone else. I taught my children not to accept, but to think, reason, taste and see. And I would be remiss if I did not ask you why you felt that was the right thing to do! I don't believe handing someone a answer teaches them anything. Although as a kid I could have screamed every time my dad started his twenty questions routine. It was easier to do my own research or reason things out than to put up the drilling he put us kids through. I will add that my children knew how I operated and often decided it wasn't worth the time and effort it cost them when all they wanted was a quick answer. At least a classroom keeps them captive long enough to hopefully trigger their interest and participation.
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Post by peacefulheart on Jul 5, 2014 11:57:47 GMT -5
I'm sure the kids loved you too! A great sense of humor and you had fun with them....I remember having teachers like that, it gave me something to look forward to every day at school. There were the teachers who took things wayyyyyy to serious and didn't even know how to smile, that was the class no one wanted to go to for sure, ha! Reminded me of my one of my history professors in college....he was a big joker and was able to hold the young folks attention and we all got to laugh frequently over his vocal interpretations of the day's lesson. However when it came to testing time, that which was on the test wasn't HOW he had presented the subject matter at all and for the first several weeks none of us passed the tests! Finally one of the history major students, himself went to the CEO of the college to complain that the lectures were nothing but a laugh and literally at that...no one was immune to the professor's style of funny! But when the tests came down on our desks there was nothing on those tests that were even close to what his lectures were. That's not good! In that case something needed to be said. I remember the funny teachers I had actually helped me learn in the process. Some even giving funny sayings to help us remember.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 5, 2014 22:42:22 GMT -5
Annan, this is so true...he is still teaching. I appreciate these comments. I wasn't going to respond but - well, you know! For those of us who are lazy, traditional teaching is far too much work. Lectures/lessons to prepare, syllabuses to create, tests to create and grade, etc. I quickly discovered that all you had to do was to get the students interested, ask them questions that challenged their beliefs, ask them questions that stimulated their interests, provide them with the opportunity to prove the teacher wrong, and they will teach themselves. A rewarding moment came when a student returned for a visit and said(as best I can remember it): "You know, I never missed your classes because we just sat around and bullsh itted about interesting stuff. It wasn't until I started college that I found out how much learning you had sneaked in while we were looking the other way! You taught us how to learn." I was explaining to the class how/why the US helped Panama get its independence from Columbia, and added that after the secret meeting in the New York hotel the rebels came out first, smiling. A while later the President came out and he was smiling even wider. Half the kids who chose to answer that question on the test mentioned how it made the President smile. And I told them than on the morning that the rebels started harassing the Columbians in Colon, that just by chance a US warship showed up in the harbor - what a stroke of luck, This little guy with a lisp in the back seat leaned out from behind the really big girl sitting in front of him and said, "Mithter Williston, you don't believe that thit, do you?" "Well, that's what they said in the newspaper." "Thankth. I knew you wath trying to tell uth thumthing."
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Post by rational on Jul 6, 2014 6:52:43 GMT -5
And I would be remiss if I did not ask you why you felt that was the right thing to do! :D :P I don't believe handing someone a answer teaches them anything. Although as a kid I could have screamed every time my dad started his twenty questions routine. ;-| It was easier to do my own research or reason things out than to put up the drilling he put us kids through. :D I will add that my children knew how I operated and often decided it wasn't worth the time and effort it cost them when all they wanted was a quick answer. At least a classroom keeps them captive long enough to hopefully trigger their interest and participation. I had hoped you knew I was joking!
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Post by Annan on Jul 6, 2014 8:43:07 GMT -5
I had hoped you knew I was joking! I did, but I felt obligated to answer anyway. You have a way of doing that to people. :-D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 11:21:35 GMT -5
i personally think disease's were created after the flood...
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Post by xna on Jul 6, 2014 11:22:12 GMT -5
i personally think disease's were created after the flood... Why?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 11:27:31 GMT -5
i personally think disease's were created after the flood... Why? just a hunch...its obvious(to me) that noah and his sons couldn't be carriers of all of earths diseases so something had to happen after the flood...
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Post by snow on Jul 6, 2014 11:34:45 GMT -5
just a hunch...its obvious(to me) that noah and his sons couldn't be carriers of all of earths diseases so something had to happen after the flood... like what? If noah and sons and wives were the only people seems likely they started things rolling doesn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 11:48:05 GMT -5
just a hunch...its obvious(to me) that noah and his sons couldn't be carriers of all of earths diseases so something had to happen after the flood... like what? If noah and sons and wives were the only people seems likely they started things rolling doesn't it? if they had been carrying all the earths diseases they would have been the walking dead or for an example...mumps can make you sterile(not always) if they all would have had the mumps someone would have surely been sterile and therefore no children and that didn't happen. in fact there is no record that any of noahs sons were sick of anything.
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Post by xna on Jul 6, 2014 12:33:51 GMT -5
i personally think disease's were created after the flood... If not from the original creation story, then do you think these diseases evolved from some other created organism, or are you thinking there was a second creation?
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Post by snow on Jul 6, 2014 13:14:15 GMT -5
like what? If noah and sons and wives were the only people seems likely they started things rolling doesn't it? if they had been carrying all the earths diseases they would have been the walking dead or for an example...mumps can make you sterile(not always) if they all would have had the mumps someone would have surely been sterile and therefore no children and that didn't happen. in fact there is no record that any of noahs sons were sick of anything. I would think that belief alone would make you question your other beliefs? I'm not sure if you agree with evolution or believe that God created everything the way it is, but if Noah and family didn't carry those diseases then where did they come from. Do you think they might have evolved from other organisms? Or I guess the other answer is that God made them and put them on the earth in earth's humans after the flood.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 14:37:25 GMT -5
i personally think disease's were created after the flood... If not from the original creation story, then do you think these diseases evolved from some other created organism, or are you thinking there was a second creation? a second creation after the flood...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 14:38:18 GMT -5
if they had been carrying all the earths diseases they would have been the walking dead or for an example...mumps can make you sterile(not always) if they all would have had the mumps someone would have surely been sterile and therefore no children and that didn't happen. in fact there is no record that any of noahs sons were sick of anything. I would think that belief alone would make you question your other beliefs? I'm not sure if you agree with evolution or believe that God created everything the way it is, but if Noah and family didn't carry those diseases then where did they come from. Do you think they might have evolved from other organisms? Or I guess the other answer is that God made them and put them on the earth in earth's humans after the flood. evolution and adaptation after the flood is okay with me...
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