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Post by rational on Apr 22, 2014 18:57:35 GMT -5
the only thing i have noticed is that the women sometimes dont wear panty hose... Yikes! Do you mean to say they've reverted to wearing the old-fashioned stockings with a garter belt? And how would you know? During the high kicks of the Can-Can it all becomes evident!
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Post by Gene on Apr 22, 2014 19:11:05 GMT -5
Yikes! Do you mean to say they've reverted to wearing the old-fashioned stockings with a garter belt? And how would you know? During the high kicks of the Can-Can it all becomes evident! Well, of course -- but I never suspected Wally was aware of what goes on at worker's meetings!
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Post by rational on Apr 22, 2014 19:12:16 GMT -5
Isn't it interesting that the modest stockings and garter belts of the up tight Victorian crowd are now the dress of people in the sex trade (or so I have been told!!).
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 22, 2014 19:33:07 GMT -5
Isn't it interesting that the modest stockings and garter belts of the up tight Victorian crowd are now the dress of people in the sex trade (or so I have been told!!). Yeh! Sure!
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Post by ellie on Apr 26, 2014 23:31:54 GMT -5
Really you can spot toeless tights without staring? The only "toeless tights" I have are a kind of support hose. I think that no toes helps them go on easier. Toeless tights or pantyhose have two openings at the bottom of each leg, one for the big toe and one for the rest of the toes. They are usually around 5-8 denier, are fairly invisible and most importantly make legs look good. I might wear them for special occasions with sandals or open toe shoes to avoid the webbed or reinforced toes look.
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Post by Persona non grata on Apr 27, 2014 8:00:35 GMT -5
With regard to modesty and standards of dress, one of the best quotes I've heard is:
"One aught not be conspicuously in fashion, nor conspicuously out of fashion." - NZ sister worker, Anne Seager
It could be reasonably proposed that the dress standards of many of today's workers makes them conspicuous. More so than the workers of the early 1900s.
It would also be reasonable to say that a perfectly acceptable standard of dress for an 80 year old would be look rather conspicuous on someone in their 20s. And vice versa.
Also, what is perfectly inconspicuous attire on the streets of Bellymena would be rather conspicuous in Copacabana. And vice versa.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 8:07:01 GMT -5
With regard to modesty and standards of dress, one of the best quotes I've heard is: One aught not be conspicuously in fashion, nor conspicuously out of fashion. - NZ sister worker, Anne Seager It could be reasonably proposed that the dress standards of many of todays workers makes them conspicuous. More so than the workers of the early 1900s. It would also be reasonable to say that a perfectly acceptable standard of dress for an 80 year old would be look rather conspicuous on someone in their 20s. And vice versa. Also, what is perfectly inconspicuous attire on the streets of Bellymena would be rather conspicuous in Copacabana. And vice versa. Excellent commonsensical quote by Ms.Seager for those who subscribe to the principles of living modestly and moderately. I presume she appeared to be living by her own advice?
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Post by Persona non grata on Apr 27, 2014 8:28:34 GMT -5
With regard to modesty and standards of dress, one of the best quotes I've heard is: One aught not be conspicuously in fashion, nor conspicuously out of fashion. - NZ sister worker, Anne Seager It could be reasonably proposed that the dress standards of many of todays workers makes them conspicuous. More so than the workers of the early 1900s. It would also be reasonable to say that a perfectly acceptable standard of dress for an 80 year old would be look rather conspicuous on someone in their 20s. And vice versa. Also, what is perfectly inconspicuous attire on the streets of Bellymena would be rather conspicuous in Copacabana. And vice versa. Excellent commonsensical quote by Ms.Seager for those who subscribe to the principles of living modestly and moderately. I presume she appeared to be living by her own advice? Hmmmm, I suppose that for a women of her age, she dresses appropriately. If, however, she were to expect younger sister workers or friends to emulate her attire, I think that would be inappropriate and out of line with her own advice. She was known to be rather imposing and outspoken on various matters (although she has perhaps mellowed somewhat in later years). There was a lot that she said and did to which I wouldn't recommend paying much heed but that one quote has remained with me and is something I have valued since.
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Post by timber on Apr 28, 2014 20:27:41 GMT -5
I used to wear a tie to Sunday am, but no longer do so. I have given up on 'tie'thing you see. lol. I actually overheard a recently professed man saying that he couldn't understand why it was so important that he wear a tie to meeting. I silently joined him the next meeting by not wearing a tie. I will wear a tie to special meetings, but no suit. I think its ridiculous. But to each his or her own.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2014 13:47:34 GMT -5
According to this board what you wear, how you speak, where you spend your Sunday mornings, how you do your hair, who you mix with, what you watch, what you read and who or what you have sex with DOESN'T MATTER. Good luck on that. My understanding is that the things I wear, the words I speak, where I spend my Sunday mornings, how I wear my hair, who I associate with, how I'm entertained and my sex life are not matters of salvation. Meaning I can't expect to wear a certain thing that will get me into Heaven...I can't just go to church every Sunday and get into Heaven...I can't just hang out with the right people and get into Heaven, etc. Are you claiming otherwise? If you say you are a Christian, if you are claiming to be a person who has placed your faith and trust in Jesus to save you and are being made in His image by the work of the Holy Spirit indwelling your life, then absolutely I have every right to expect you to be different than a person for whom those things are not the case. But why? Is it not because they are being led by the Spirit? It's certainly not because they are just trying to ACT like a Christian by changing the outside...they are being transformed from the inside out. Behavior modification without heart transformation is absolutely meaningless. I guess my point is I wouldn't go so far as to say they absolutely don't matter...however, if they're being done for the wrong reasons or with the wrong motivation, then I believe that no, they don't matter. In the scope of eternity anyway.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2014 11:22:12 GMT -5
.. A rather enlightening thread ' a woman's health can be determined by the state of her legs'
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Post by Annan on May 3, 2014 12:08:58 GMT -5
According to this board what you wear, how you speak, where you spend your Sunday mornings, how you do your hair, who you mix with, what you watch, what you read and who or what you have sex with DOESN'T MATTER. Good luck on that. My understanding is that the things I wear, the words I speak, where I spend my Sunday mornings, how I wear my hair, who I associate with, how I'm entertained and my sex life are not matters of salvation. Meaning I can't expect to wear a certain thing that will get me into Heaven...I can't just go to church every Sunday and get into Heaven...I can't just hang out with the right people and get into Heaven, etc. Are you claiming otherwise? If you say you are a Christian, if you are claiming to be a person who has placed your faith and trust in Jesus to save you and are being made in His image by the work of the Holy Spirit indwelling your life, then absolutely I have every right to expect you to be different than a person for whom those things are not the case. But why? Is it not because they are being led by the Spirit? It's certainly not because they are just trying to ACT like a Christian by changing the outside...they are being transformed from the inside out. Behavior modification without heart transformation is absolutely meaningless. I guess my point is I wouldn't go so far as to say they absolutely don't matter...however, if they're being done for the wrong reasons or with the wrong motivation, then I believe that no, they don't matter. In the scope of eternity anyway. Great post, Beth. Love your sig line too.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2014 12:19:33 GMT -5
.. A rather enlightening thread ' a woman's health can be determined by the state of her legs' Actually the health of any individual can be seen in the state of a person's legs; male or female...For example, what kind of condition is the skin in? Is it dry and flakey? Are there open sores? Are they discolored purplish/red? Is there swelling? Is there weeping edema? Fluid retention and fluid overload often shows up first with swelling in the lower extremities and can go hand in hand with congestive heart failure. The legs also tell you about a person's circulation. Is there venous insufficiency? This is actually more common than we realize. As to pantyhose: Depending on the type, they can be worn as support hose as well and are recommended for people who are on their feet for long periods of time to promote good circulatory return and help fight those darn varicose veins, which can be painful. Good support hose helps fight against the formation of blood clots. However, putting them on is a pain.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2014 12:22:55 GMT -5
.. A rather enlightening thread ' a woman's health can be determined by the state of her legs' Actually the health of any individual can be seen in the state of a person's legs; male or female...For example, what kind of condition is the skin in? Is it dry and flakey? Are there open sores? Are they discolored purplish/red? Is there swelling? Is there weeping edema? Fluid retention and fluid overload often shows up first with swelling in the lower extremities and can go hand in hand with congestive heart failure. The legs also tell you about a person's circulation. Is there venous insufficiency? This is actually more common than we realize. As to pantyhose: Depending on the type, they can be worn as support hose as well and are recommended for people who are on their feet for long periods of time to promote good circulatory return and help fight those darn varicose veins, which can be painful. Good support hose helps fight against the formation of blood clots. However, putting them on is a pain. . ... .. . no need to get so technical .. . i was thinking more along the lines of what kind of shape a woman's legs are in is a good indicator of how fit she is .. . ...as in physical fitness .. . but the i guess it also stands to reason that the better the circulation and everything is to the lower extremities, the better oxygenated blood supply will be getting to the skin on the lower extremities
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Post by dmmichgood on May 4, 2014 2:24:59 GMT -5
I'm so blessed!
My legs look so great and without any hose what -so-ever!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 8:32:26 GMT -5
Annan's Amazing Quote - "My understanding is that the things I wear, the words I speak, where I spend my Sunday mornings, how I wear my hair, who I associate with, how I'm entertained and my sex life are not matters of salvation."
What you wear is proscribed by scripture. Are your words anything like the "filthy talk of the wicked""? Do you "forsake the assembling of ourselves together as the manner of some is." ? Your hair also gets a mention - both men and women. Along with exhortations regards the company we keep. Entertainment gets a belting in the bible, too. And don't get me reaching for every book in the bible regards sex behavior.
Frankly Annan, if you have this mentality, why bother with the notion of salvation? You wouldn't like it there anyhow.
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Post by slowtosee on May 4, 2014 8:48:06 GMT -5
" love the Lord Jesus christ with your whole body, soul, and spirit, and Then do whatever you want". Sounds wrong but is actually a safe statement. Many rules and regulations are followed to the letter, without the love of christ, and it can cause a lot of harm. The pharisees were excellent rule followers . Excellent. Alvin
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 9:13:20 GMT -5
Slowtosee. Maybe you should "love the Lord Jesus christ with your whole body, soul, and spirit... and then follow Chris's rules and regulations to the letter" ?
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Post by slowtosee on May 4, 2014 9:23:21 GMT -5
Sure, but understanding it is humanly impossible, to follow all rules all the time, and somehow love,simply, just transcends and trumps rules. Following rules tends to create atmosphere of how well did I score, and judging other people's performance, often resulting in self righteousness because we tend to judge ourselves a little easier than the next guy.love is stronger than rules. Alvin
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 9:26:35 GMT -5
Quote - "but understanding it is humanly impossible" That's not what it says in the bible.
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Post by slowtosee on May 4, 2014 9:27:42 GMT -5
Are you capable of being perfect in yourself? I am not. I am very dependant on the grace of God and others also. Alvin
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Post by Annan on May 4, 2014 10:36:11 GMT -5
Annan's Amazing Quote - " My understanding is that the things I wear, the words I speak, where I spend my Sunday mornings, how I wear my hair, who I associate with, how I'm entertained and my sex life are not matters of salvation."What you wear is proscribed by scripture. Are your words anything like the "filthy talk of the wicked""? Do you " forsake the assembling of ourselves together as the manner of some is." ? Your hair also gets a mention - both men and women. Along with exhortations regards the company we keep. Entertainment gets a belting in the bible, too. And don't get me reaching for every book in the bible regards sex behavior. Frankly Annan, if you have this mentality, why bother with the notion of salvation? You wouldn't like it there anyhow. Sorry, sweetie, but this is not my quote. But, please, let me consume your world.
This so reminds me of how infatuated Jason Landless was with me. When I get under your skin, there is no getting rid of me.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 12:47:27 GMT -5
Hmmm... Ask ten people what is tacky - tachy -and u will likely get ten different answers --- some women would do better to wear pantyhose ,, and no I 'm talking about a pair of panties hooked up to a hose .......
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 12:51:00 GMT -5
" love the Lord Jesus christ with your whole body, soul, and spirit, and Then do whatever you want". Sounds wrong but is actually a safe statement. Many rules and regulations are followed to the letter, without the love of christ, and it can cause a lot of harm. The pharisees were excellent rule followers . Excellent. Alvin - some people seem to be more comfortable following rules rather than letting the Spirit lead and guide ..
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Post by findingtruth on May 5, 2014 21:09:11 GMT -5
" love the Lord Jesus christ with your whole body, soul, and spirit, and Then do whatever you want". Sounds wrong but is actually a safe statement. Many rules and regulations are followed to the letter, without the love of christ, and it can cause a lot of harm. The pharisees were excellent rule followers . Excellent. Alvin - some people seem to be more comfortable following rules rather than letting the Spirit lead and guide .. This is likely a result of NO faith in what they "claim" to have faith in. In other words these people like to talk about Jesus and their faith in Jesus but in reality they don't really believe in his words. At least this is my personal view.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 21:20:17 GMT -5
- some people seem to be more comfortable following rules rather than letting the Spirit lead and guide .. This is likely a result of NO faith in what they "claim" to have faith in. In other words these people like to talk about Jesus and their faith in Jesus but in reality they don't really believe in his words. At least this is my personal view. .. Yes, it does take faith to trust in the Spirit
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Post by rational on May 5, 2014 22:32:53 GMT -5
- some people seem to be more comfortable following rules rather than letting the Spirit lead and guide .. I wonder how many times the spirit leading and guiding a person leads in a direction with which the person agrees.
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Post by rational on May 5, 2014 22:34:53 GMT -5
.. Yes, it does take faith to trust in the Spirit I am guessing about the same amount of faith it takes to believe in yourself and your own moral compass.
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