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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 20, 2014 23:01:46 GMT -5
according to the workers yes... Sounds like traditions of men..... Especially neckties -- what significance does a necktie have for one's salvation?
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Post by whyisitso on Apr 20, 2014 23:04:41 GMT -5
Sounds like traditions of men..... Especially neckties -- what significance does a necktie have for one's salvation? Dunno. Ask Wally.
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 20, 2014 23:26:54 GMT -5
i don't know about you but i can tell the difference esp. if they have open toed shoes... Wally, do you think that you may have a fetish about women's stockings?
I wonder, maybe Bob could send you a pair of his panty hose.
If you are afraid to wear them during the day for fear they might be detectible, (especially with open-toed shoes) you could wear at night and it would help you feel better!
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 20, 2014 23:30:21 GMT -5
i don't know about you but i can tell the difference esp. if they have open toed shoes... Wally, do you think that you may have a fetish about women's stockings?
I wonder, maybe Bob could send you a pair of his panty hose.
If you are afraid to wear them during the day for fear they might be detectible, (especially with open-toed shoes) you could wear at night and it would help you feel better!
And if you wear them at night, make sure you give the police no reason to stop you. I saw them getting a truck driver out of his truck one night (on TV) and he had a difficult time explaining not only his pantyhose, but his bra and panties as well. ... But he wasn't drunk.
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Post by whyisitso on Apr 20, 2014 23:44:20 GMT -5
i don't know about you but i can tell the difference esp. if they have open toed shoes... Open toed shoes? I thought that was a no no. That tradition must've changed too.
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Post by jondough on Apr 21, 2014 1:59:12 GMT -5
according to the workers yes... according to SOME workers....and depending on the occasion. Even the ones that wear them, some of them do out of obligation to fit in, and don't expect it out of the Friends.
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Post by rational on Apr 21, 2014 5:54:16 GMT -5
according to the workers yes... Yes, that's true for a lot of them. I've been told that some of the children in Papua New Guinea thought the sister workers were web-footed when everyone took off their shoes to wade across a stream. The sister workers may have thought pantyhose would reduce the possibility of schistosomiasis!
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Post by rational on Apr 21, 2014 5:56:50 GMT -5
Sounds like traditions of men..... Especially neckties -- what significance does a necktie have for one's salvation? >:( Until the increased use of clip-on ties, they were useful in leading people around. And much less painful than a nose ring.
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Post by rational on Apr 21, 2014 6:18:20 GMT -5
i don't know about you but i can tell the difference esp. if they have open toed shoes... Wally, do you think that you may have a fetish about women's stockings?
I wonder, maybe Bob could send you a pair of his panty hose.
If you are afraid to wear them during the day for fear they might be detectible, (especially with open-toed shoes) you could wear at night and it would help you feel better!
Before going off on a tangent, a lot of men wear pantyhose/tights. Manufacturers estimate it at about 3% of the market. During cold weather it is not uncommon to see male and female joggers in shorts and tights. Men, and women, with circulatory problems use them as light-weight compression garments. After listening to the complaints from regular users I tried putting on pantyhose to gather real-time data. After the 10 minute struggle getting them sort of on, my next concern was to get them off as soon as possible. Perhaps I should have shaved my legs - they seemed to be fighting with each and every hair!
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Post by jj on Apr 21, 2014 7:13:30 GMT -5
I hate stockings with a passion!! I had offered for the work and was trying to reconcile myself to that fact that I'd have to wear stockings most of my waking hours for the rest of my life, no wonder I felt stifled by these traditions of men!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 7:14:32 GMT -5
And I guess there are some who are relieved you weren't accepted.
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Post by Annan on Apr 21, 2014 7:50:50 GMT -5
the only thing i have noticed is that the women sometimes dont wear panty hose... When I see a woman in nylons, I can't help thinking how old fashioned she is. Nylons are so not the style anymore. Haven't been for years. I don't understand what purpose nylons serve. A woman's legs can still be seen.
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Post by Annan on Apr 21, 2014 7:55:24 GMT -5
Sounds like traditions of men..... Especially neckties -- what significance does a necktie have for one's salvation? I once knew a guy who was refused pay raises because he refused to wear a tie at work. Ties do look nice, but I fail to see the purpose of them. Just another rule that makes no sense.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 8:27:48 GMT -5
Especially neckties -- what significance does a necktie have for one's salvation? I once knew a guy who was refused pay raises because he refused to wear a tie at work. Ties do look nice, but I fail to see the purpose of them. Just another rule that makes no sense. It all started out a few centuries ago as scarves to keep the neck warm and evolved from there. Evolution has led it to become something men wear to make themselves appear more sophisticated than what they really are.......so we have come a long ways from the neckwarmers!
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Post by jondough on Apr 21, 2014 9:05:27 GMT -5
Lets face it. Dress, or dressing up can be a respect thing.
Sure, I'd love to show up to the office everyday in shorts and a t-shirt. However, this would not promote a professional attitude in our office. Its just part of our culture.
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Post by snow on Apr 21, 2014 11:01:32 GMT -5
Lets face it. Dress, or dressing up can be a respect thing. Sure, I'd love to show up to the office everyday in shorts and a t-shirt. However, this would not promote a professional attitude in our office. Its just part of our culture. and that's fine. It's when it becomes something God wants or you can't be 'saved' that it becomes a ridiculous mindset. Fashion is fashion and I really don't think any God would care about fashion.
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 21, 2014 12:01:33 GMT -5
Wally, do you think that you may have a fetish about women's stockings?
I wonder, maybe Bob could send you a pair of his panty hose.
If you are afraid to wear them during the day for fear they might be detectible, (especially with open-toed shoes) you could wear at night and it would help you feel better!
Before going off on a tangent, a lot of men wear pantyhose/tights. Manufacturers estimate it at about 3% of the market. During cold weather it is not uncommon to see male and female joggers in shorts and tights. Men, and women, with circulatory problems use them as light-weight compression garments. After listening to the complaints from regular users I tried putting on pantyhose to gather real-time data. After the 10 minute struggle getting them sort of on, my next concern was to get them off as soon as possible. Perhaps I should have shaved my legs - they seemed to be fighting with each and every hair! ! Now you know what discomfort women face every working day trying to get those things on!
Good for you to try them on!
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 21, 2014 13:17:26 GMT -5
Wally, do you think that you may have a fetish about women's stockings?
I wonder, maybe Bob could send you a pair of his panty hose.
If you are afraid to wear them during the day for fear they might be detectible, (especially with open-toed shoes) you could wear at night and it would help you feel better!
Seems like you're just joking around, but I think you gotta give this one a rest. It is very easy to tell the difference, and does not require staring or longing glances. So basically, if you notice anything other than a person's eyes (through eye contact) you need to quit staring at their body parts and must have a fetish (otherwise how did you notice it?) Are you offended?
Yes, partly I am joking.
However, Wally never mentioned any other part of female clothing. It was always about stockings. Did he ever get even up to eye level, let alone above eye level?
The observation of female legs and what was on those legs has long been a contentious subject, no only in the **TRUTH** but the rest of society as well.
Men were supposed to turn to lust at the sight of a female ankle at one time. (Which is really an insult to men)
Never-the-less, the length of a woman's dress has always been contentious.
At one time in the **TRUTH** properly "professing" women was supposed to measure the length of their hem lines by using the height of one of our hymn books from the floor.
One had to wear black stockings if you professed and made of cotton, not silk or nylon.
One worker use to say,
"you know you are being led by the nose if you are wearing silk hose"
So, indeed, women's legs & hosiery are apparently even now and have always been, a very serious subject!
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Post by rational on Apr 21, 2014 14:33:06 GMT -5
Fair statements, my only point was to stick up for Wally with the ribbing he was taking, because it is not difficult to tell (even without staring or purposefully looking at their legs) if a women is wearing stockings. If it is something that really makes a difference be up front about it and ask.
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Post by sunshine on Apr 21, 2014 18:03:27 GMT -5
I wear stockings only in the winter.The rest of the year it's sandals or better-looking flip flops (not cruddy ones) to meeting.
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Post by snow on Apr 21, 2014 18:38:53 GMT -5
and that's fine. It's when it becomes something God wants or you can't be 'saved' that it becomes a ridiculous mindset. Fashion is fashion and I really don't think any God would care about fashion. I agree it's ridiculous to get to bent out of shape about it.... but dressing for the occasion is usually a good idea. If you willingly go to a church were men wear ties, then probably don't wear your pajamas or it could rightfully be considered disrespectful. I'm often the only man not wearing a tie in my meeting. Mostly because I have more semi-dress shirts that don't go well with ties than the fancier shirts that usually are worn with ties. But I'm still dressed in the same general range of dressiness, and I'm fairly certain my salvation or lack thereof won't be determined by a necktie. I pretty much agree, it makes sense to dress the part if you're going to do the event. I wouldn't show up at a company Christmas party in a pair of sweats.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 19:13:43 GMT -5
According to this board what you wear, how you speak, where you spend your Sunday mornings, how you do your hair, who you mix with, what you watch, what you read and who or what you have sex with DOESN'T MATTER.
Good luck on that.
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Post by fixit on Apr 21, 2014 19:23:25 GMT -5
According to this board what you wear, how you speak, where you spend your Sunday mornings, how you do your hair, who you mix with, what you watch, what you read and who or what you have sex with DOESN'T MATTER. Good luck on that. You mean there's a consensus? Good luck on that.
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Post by ellie on Apr 22, 2014 5:30:32 GMT -5
Are you offended?
Yes, partly I am joking.
However, Wally never mentioned any other part of female clothing. It was always about stockings. Did he ever get even up to eye level, let alone above eye level?
The observation of female legs and what was on those legs has long been a contentious subject, no only in the **TRUTH** but the rest of society as well.
Men were supposed to turn to lust at the sight of a female ankle at one time. (Which is really an insult to men)
Never-the-less, the length of a woman's dress has always been contentious.
At one time in the **TRUTH** properly "professing" women was supposed to measure the length of their hem lines by using the height of one of our hymn books from the floor.
One had to wear black stockings if you professed and made of cotton, not silk or nylon.
One worker use to say,
"you know you are being led by the nose if you are wearing silk hose"
So, indeed, women's legs & hosiery are apparently even now and have always been, a very serious subject!
Fair statements, my only point was to stick up for Wally with the ribbing he was taking, because it is not difficult to tell (even without staring or purposefully looking at their legs) if a women is wearing stockings. Really you can spot toeless tights without staring?
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Post by rational on Apr 22, 2014 6:33:01 GMT -5
Fair statements, my only point was to stick up for Wally with the ribbing he was taking, because it is not difficult to tell (even without staring or purposefully looking at their legs) if a women is wearing stockings. This is true. At times I have had to resort to a tactile examination. Very difficult if the subject won't stand still or is running.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 7:17:34 GMT -5
Fair statements, my only point was to stick up for Wally with the ribbing he was taking, because it is not difficult to tell (even without staring or purposefully looking at their legs) if a women is wearing stockings. This is true. At times I have had to resort to a tactile examination. Very difficult if the subject won't stand still or is running. Tactile examination could land you in a lot more trouble than Wally's wandering eyes!
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Post by rational on Apr 22, 2014 8:06:47 GMT -5
This is true. At times I have had to resort to a tactile examination. Very difficult if the subject won't stand still or is running. Tactile examination could land you in a lot more trouble than Wally's wandering eyes! Possibly, but I have to admit that it has also led to some delightful interludes of exploring. At the time I was licensed to examine all types of clothing to be certain they were up to meeting standards! Sometimes it required many re-checks to be certain ... well, it was never established what was being re-checked. Just seemed like the thing to do! Ahh, the halcyon days of youth. They do much to warm the cockles of my heart in the autumn of my life and will hopefully be remembered in my dotage!
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 22, 2014 15:32:43 GMT -5
Fair statements, my only point was to stick up for Wally with the ribbing he was taking, because it is not difficult to tell (even without staring or purposefully looking at their legs) if a women is wearing stockings. Really you can spot toeless tights without staring? The only "toeless tights" I have are a kind of support hose. I think that no toes helps them go on easier.
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