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Post by déjà vu on Mar 30, 2014 21:38:14 GMT -5
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Post by rational on Mar 31, 2014 7:07:30 GMT -5
Which of the people on the ark carried smallpox? Malaria? Rational ~ I cannot remember anything being discussed in the movie about someone being sick on the boat, or maybe I dozed off for a few minutes and missed that part? Here's a link about what diseases could have been found on the ark, but in the movie everybody was lulled into a deep sleep ~ obviously for about a year. Personally, taking on such an assignment and trying to make it appear logical must have really taken some imagination.
creation.com/diseases-on-the-ark
There is no need for logic. The god of the gaps has already been thrown in.
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Post by rational on Mar 31, 2014 11:17:13 GMT -5
To those who don't believe in God..... How did thousands and thousands of animals from different species around the world KNOW and Believing about the COMING Flood on the earth and Fled to the Ark for a place of refuge? Short answer - they didn't.
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Post by embers on Mar 31, 2014 13:44:08 GMT -5
I heard that the movie God's Not Dead is good. I might break my tradition of not going to the theater and check this one out. godsnotdeadthemovie.com/
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Post by rational on Mar 31, 2014 15:02:50 GMT -5
Short answer - they didn't. What do you mean they didn't?I mean the story is a myth. If not all of it, at least the bulk of it. [/font]A different question is how thousands and thousands of animals fit in the ark? What did they eat? What did they drink? How did animals from other continents get to the ark?
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Post by faune on Mar 31, 2014 15:06:23 GMT -5
To those who don't believe in God..... How did thousands and thousands of animals from different species around the world KNOW and Believing about the COMING Flood on the earth and Fled to the Ark for a place of refuge? Nathan ~ Definitely a miracle indeed and keenly displayed within the movie, Noah. That's what I meant about it taking some imagination to make this movie appear real to the audience, even though the filmmakers took a lot of poetic license in the script.
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Post by faune on Mar 31, 2014 15:10:18 GMT -5
What do you mean they didn't? I mean the story is a myth. If not all of it, at least the bulk of it. [/font]A different question is how thousands and thousands of animals fit in the ark? What did they eat? What did they drink? How did animals from other continents get to the ark? [/quote][/p]
Rational ~ Perhaps that was why the filmmakers thought it would help to lull them into hibernation for a year? Also, since some would be feeding on one another otherwise, that does make sense in a way ~ I think? Also, this idea of animals from other continents getting into the ark is something else I never considered? Wow, that would be another challenge, too.
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Post by rational on Mar 31, 2014 15:12:13 GMT -5
I heard that the movie God's Not Dead is good. I might break my tradition of not going to the theater and check this one out. godsnotdeadthemovie.com/The reviews were pretty bad.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 15:28:43 GMT -5
What do you mean they didn't? I mean the story is a myth. If not all of it, at least the bulk of it. he had about 120 years to get every animal onto the ark...
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Post by rational on Mar 31, 2014 16:29:41 GMT -5
God had chosen certain different species of animals to enter the Ark and guided them to the Ark. Noah didn't need to go all over the places around the world and bring them to the ark. It was God's own doing. This doesn't answer the question of how animals like the kangaroo got to the ark and then back to Australia. Why are there no kangaroos in the area where the ark landed? There couldn't only be certain species selected or else those would only be the species that survived. Or did those species evolve?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Mar 31, 2014 17:28:24 GMT -5
" No doubt Noah and his family were really ripe with BO, too, without getting a real bath for such a long time? " This was a case of "water, water everywhere, but not one drop to drink!"?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Mar 31, 2014 17:32:02 GMT -5
Which of the people on the ark carried smallpox? Malaria? Rational ~ I cannot remember anything being discussed in the movie about someone being sick on the boat, or maybe I dozed off for a few minutes and missed that part? Here's a link about what diseases could have been found on the ark, but in the movie everybody was lulled into a deep sleep ~ obviously for about a year. Personally, taking on such an assignment and trying to make it appear logical must have really taken some imagination.
creation.com/diseases-on-the-ark
I'd have to say the worst bacteria Noah and family and animals and birds, etc had to worry about was E Coli. Having an ark full of nervous animals and humans and birds, shoot, things were well endowed by the time the ark came to the stop on top of the mountain.....BTW, maybe that's why God allowed this large ship to rest on the mountain, had plenty of sunshine and breezes to dry up a lot of bacteria, eh?
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Post by faune on Mar 31, 2014 18:05:01 GMT -5
Rational ~ I cannot remember anything being discussed in the movie about someone being sick on the boat, or maybe I dozed off for a few minutes and missed that part? Here's a link about what diseases could have been found on the ark, but in the movie everybody was lulled into a deep sleep ~ obviously for about a year. Personally, taking on such an assignment and trying to make it appear logical must have really taken some imagination.
creation.com/diseases-on-the-ark
I'd have to say the worst bacteria Noah and family and animals and birds, etc had to worry about was E Coli. Having an ark full of nervous animals and humans and birds, shoot, things were well endowed by the time the ark came to the stop on top of the mountain.....BTW, maybe that's why God allowed this large ship to rest on the mountain, had plenty of sunshine and breezes to dry up a lot of bacteria, eh? Perhaps you are right about E. coli infection with all the byproducts of those animals accumulating for 365 days or more? No wonder Noah got drunk after he left the ark. He had all he could take of the odors on board and just wanted to celebrate in the open air?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Mar 31, 2014 18:18:06 GMT -5
I'd have to say the worst bacteria Noah and family and animals and birds, etc had to worry about was E Coli. Having an ark full of nervous animals and humans and birds, shoot, things were well endowed by the time the ark came to the stop on top of the mountain.....BTW, maybe that's why God allowed this large ship to rest on the mountain, had plenty of sunshine and breezes to dry up a lot of bacteria, eh? Perhaps you are right about E. coli infection with all the byproducts of those animals accumulating for 365 days or more? No wonder Noah got drunk after he left the ark. He had all he could take of the odors on board and just wanted to celebrate in the open air? I suspect that NOah had little else but "old wine" from off the ark to drink....since the waters carried dead bodies for miles around! And of course as the waters abated, the corpses were very evident, surely! Another thing he may well have stayed lit while on the ark, not much else to do since he didn't seem to have a way of stirring his ark! Just got everybody in there and floated around here and yon, for certainly he didn't know where he was when his ship got stuck on that mountain, he had to send out a dove to bring him back some evidence of open land which had green things growing! That had to have been a long time, he was just sitting on top of that mountain,m because we know it took at least a year after sjuch a horrible flood before green things began to grow again!
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Post by rational on Mar 31, 2014 18:53:33 GMT -5
" No doubt Noah and his family were really ripe with BO, too, without getting a real bath for such a long time? O_o" This was a case of "water, water everywhere, but not one drop to drink!"? ;) Or as Coleridge said: Water, water, every where, Nor any drop to drink.
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Post by faune on Mar 31, 2014 21:05:28 GMT -5
" No doubt Noah and his family were really ripe with BO, too, without getting a real bath for such a long time? " This was a case of "water, water everywhere, but not one drop to drink!"? Or as Coleridge said: Water, water, every where, Nor any drop to drink.Sharingtheriches ~ I got a chuckle out of your remark about Noah staying lit on the ark, too, because of only having wine to drink and living in those over-crowded conditions with all those terrible animal odors. For sure, 365 days floating around in the ocean would be enough to make you sea-sick and a little fermented "grape juice" probably helped him cope?
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Post by rational on Mar 31, 2014 21:58:07 GMT -5
That had to have been a long time, he was just sitting on top of that mountain, because we know it took at least a year after such a horrible flood before green things began to grow again! Have you read the story of Noah's ark in the bible?
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Post by faune on Mar 31, 2014 22:57:37 GMT -5
That had to have been a long time, he was just sitting on top of that mountain, because we know it took at least a year after such a horrible flood before green things began to grow again! Have you read the story of Noah's ark in the bible? Rational ~ I didn't say that ~ it was a remark that Sharingtheriches made in fun. I suspect your "auto editor" is really screwing up here big time? You should have a word with him? Perhaps he's asleep on the job and letting these things just slip by?
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Post by faune on Mar 31, 2014 23:01:49 GMT -5
Perhaps you are right about E. coli infection with all the byproducts of those animals accumulating for 365 days or more? No wonder Noah got drunk after he left the ark. He had all he could take of the odors on board and just wanted to celebrate in the open air? I suspect that Noah had little else but "old wine" from off the ark to drink....since the waters carried dead bodies for miles around! And of course as the waters abated, the corpses were very evident, surely! Another thing he may well have stayed lit while on the ark, not much else to do since he didn't seem to have a way of stirring his ark! Just got everybody in there and floated around here and yon, for certainly he didn't know where he was when his ship got stuck on that mountain, he had to send out a dove to bring him back some evidence of open land which had green things growing! That had to have been a long time, he was just sitting on top of that mountain, because we know it took at least a year after such a horrible flood before green things began to grow again!
Rational ~ Just check out this post above. Honestly, you really need to talk to your "auto editor" about his screw-ups? Perhaps he's been drinking some of Noah's "old wine" and he's a little tipsy tonight?
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Post by rational on Mar 31, 2014 23:48:14 GMT -5
I suspect that Noah had little else but "old wine" from off the ark to drink....since the waters carried dead bodies for miles around! And of course as the waters abated, the corpses were very evident, surely! Another thing he may well have stayed lit while on the ark, not much else to do since he didn't seem to have a way of stirring his ark! Just got everybody in there and floated around here and yon, for certainly he didn't know where he was when his ship got stuck on that mountain, he had to send out a dove to bring him back some evidence of open land which had green things growing! That had to have been a long time, he was just sitting on top of that mountain, because we know it took at least a year after such a horrible flood before green things began to grow again!
Rational ~ Just check out this post above. Honestly, you really need to talk to your "auto editor" about his screw-ups? Perhaps he's been drinking some of Noah's "old wine" and he's a little tipsy tonight? :D It looks to me like the error was between the keyboard and the back of your chair.
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Post by rational on Mar 31, 2014 23:50:16 GMT -5
Have you read the story of Noah's ark in the bible? Rational ~ I didn't say that ~ it was a remark that Sharingtheriches made in fun. I suspect your "auto editor" is really screwing up here big time? You should have a word with him? Perhaps he's asleep on the job and letting these things just slip by? :D The quote had no attribute so I assumed it was yours. In any case, the wait for the olive tree to grow and produce leaves was about 7 days (I am too lazy to actually look it up!).
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 1, 2014 0:08:58 GMT -5
I'm personally not interested in going to see Noah, or any movie. However, my daughter went to see Noah last night. The movie started at 8:30 PM. I heard her come back home around 10:00. I got up and asked her how the movie was. She said she got up halfway through and left. She thought it was horrible. And the violence bothered her. Something about ripping a leg off of a live sheep??? What does anyone expect from a movie these days?
Anyway, -how could it have been any more violent than the book (bible) itself?
I mean, after all it really wouldn't be a pretty sight to see everyone slaughtered, women, children -even the "suckling child" -at the very command of the the Lord God Himself! (I Sam. 15:3)
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Post by sharingtheriches on Apr 1, 2014 9:23:39 GMT -5
Or as Coleridge said: Water, water, every where, Nor any drop to drink.Sharingtheriches ~ I got a chuckle out of your remark about Noah staying lit on the ark, too, because of only having wine to drink and living in those over-crowded conditions with all those terrible animal odors. For sure, 365 days floating around in the ocean would be enough to make you sea-sick and a little fermented "grape juice" probably helped him cope?
I'm not disparaging Noah, but in the bible we read about all the "wine drinking"....Jesus was even called a winebibber, wasn't he? I suppose that when a child was weaned off the breast and perhaps toddlerhood drank goats' milk, that by the time a young son was in his teens he had already been well conditioned to wine drinking. I know of some Old Country folks that visited us once many years ago, their school aged children were allowed wine cut with water! Parents said that's how they were raised and they continued what they were taught! I have to admit though children about 6-8 years old had barely enough wine to "flavor" the wine much less color it!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Apr 1, 2014 9:31:13 GMT -5
Rational ~ I didn't say that ~ it was a remark that Sharingtheriches made in fun. I suspect your "auto editor" is really screwing up here big time? You should have a word with him? Perhaps he's asleep on the job and letting these things just slip by? The quote had no attribute so I assumed it was yours. In any case, the wait for the olive tree to grow and produce leaves was about 7 days (I am too lazy to actually look it up!). Don't bother waking up your quote editor, Rat! It was all said in fun. Yes, I know the bible said 7 days....but again like the creation story was done in 7 days....anything is possible with God.....nonetheless most times after such a flood it takes at least a year to liveable.
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Post by rational on Apr 1, 2014 9:36:48 GMT -5
The quote had no attribute so I assumed it was yours. In any case, the wait for the olive tree to grow and produce leaves was about 7 days (I am too lazy to actually look it up!). Don't bother waking up your quote editor, Rat! It was all said in fun. Yes, I know the bible said 7 days....but again like the creation story was done in 7 days....anything is possible with God.....nonetheless most times after such a flood it takes at least a year to liveable. And that is why throwing in a god of the gaps is so often the solution. "How did that happen?" "God did it. Thank God." (Of course, if it's a mudslide that killed people offense may be taken!)
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Post by rational on Apr 1, 2014 15:00:53 GMT -5
I mean the story (of Noah) is a myth. If not all of it, at least the bulk of it. ~~ Noah and the Ark is NO myth. It tells us the Ark came to rest on Mt. Ararat. They found the Ark of Noah on Mt. Ararat in 2010.Come on Nathan. This story has been shown to be false by everyone but the promoters and the tourist industry in Turkey. great. But if you wish to believe it to be true -
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Post by faune on Apr 1, 2014 15:34:13 GMT -5
The quote had no attribute so I assumed it was yours. In any case, the wait for the olive tree to grow and produce leaves was about 7 days (I am too lazy to actually look it up!). Don't bother waking up your quote editor, Rat! It was all said in fun. Yes, I know the bible said 7 days....but again like the creation story was done in 7 days....anything is possible with God.....nonetheless most times after such a flood it takes at least a year to liveable. Sharingtheriches ~ You know I never caught that reference to the olive branch until you brought it up in conversation here. However, who knows, perhaps the water had abated enough for something to sprout again and it took 7 days for the dove to get back to the boat? Perhaps his bird radar wasn't working that well and he got off course due to all that water below? Anyway, the story of Noah and the flood and all those animals in the ark surely takes a vivid imagination and I feel those filmmakers did the best they could under the circumstances.
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Post by snow on Apr 1, 2014 23:49:57 GMT -5
To those who don't believe in God..... How did thousands and thousands of animals from different species around the world KNOW and Believing about the COMING Flood on the earth and Fled to the Ark for a place of refuge? For me I don't believe that any animals went on the ark at all. Just how do you think the koalas got from Oz to the middle east? Truly, the logistics of whole entire story is absolutely impossible.
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