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Post by kiwi on Jan 4, 2009 1:15:00 GMT -5
So true, so true ...who hate it when the truth is told about their church. Ha ha, I suppose your dreams are free
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Post by ilylo on Jan 4, 2009 1:16:51 GMT -5
Is there a point somewhere in your nonsense, alan?
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Post by someguy on Jan 4, 2009 1:18:07 GMT -5
No it don't, it means exactly what he wrote. Hope you don't feel silly if you ever find out you are wrong. If you don't like what we say/believe you are not asked to partake Hahah thanks for reminding me. You see trouble is I do happen to like meetings I just can't stand ignorant people who place their faith in a "way" as oppose to Jesus. Whenever someone on this board like Todd states the importance of following "Gods only way" as opposed to following Jesus I just cringe because I have seen over and over the negative consequences of this type of thinking. on another note. Are you related to Stan? I believe he is a worker in kiwi-land.
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Post by kiwi on Jan 4, 2009 1:22:42 GMT -5
Is there a point somewhere in your nonsense, alan? Nah just following you
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Post by ilylo on Jan 4, 2009 1:23:51 GMT -5
Is there a point somewhere in your nonsense, alan? Nah just following you That does make sense, given your complete lack of leadership skills.
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Post by kiwi on Jan 4, 2009 1:28:40 GMT -5
No it don't, it means exactly what he wrote. Hope you don't feel silly if you ever find out you are wrong. If you don't like what we say/believe you are not asked to partake Hahah thanks for reminding me. You see trouble is I do happen to like meetings I just can't stand ignorant people who place their faith in a "way" as oppose to Jesus. Whenever someone on this board like Todd states the importance of following "Gods only way" as opposed to following Jesus I just cringe because I have seen over and over the negative consequences of this type of thinking. on another note. Are you related to Stan? I believe he is a worker in kiwi-land. Have you ever thought that you and Todd are speaking of the same thing? Because the way that Todd is speaking of is Jesus Oh and by the way following Jesus is the way of God. And by the way it is not Christlike to label people as ignorant And a Christian is a person is tolerant of others.
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Post by kiwi on Jan 4, 2009 1:30:25 GMT -5
Nah just following you That does make sense, given your complete lack of leadership skills. AW come on now you know we love you ;D we can't help it ;D
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Post by someguy on Jan 4, 2009 1:35:53 GMT -5
Have you ever thought that you and Todd are speaking of the same thing? Because the way that Todd is speaking of is Jesus Oh and by the way following Jesus is the way of God. And by the way it is not Christlike to label people as ignorant And a Christian is a person is tolerant of others. True a Christian is tolerant of others sorry if I struggle to tolerate ignorance. I honestly do struggle with this one. if one is ignorant then it is best to not speak at all. I have thought that Todd and me are speaking about the same thing. Then I re-read his posts and quickly saw that sadly Todd is like so many others who go to meetings and believe in a system and not Jesus. If one believes in Jesus they wouldn't think that walking in the Way of God is following workers or meetings. They would understand there is a great difference in workers and Jesus. Our little way will continue to fad away because of this kind of ignorance. Hopefully this kind of blind faith will be replaced with a faith in Jesus and not a method for fellowship.
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Post by todd on Jan 4, 2009 1:40:43 GMT -5
Hey Alan...duh when a staunch 2x2er like Todd states that we should follow God's only way he refers to the 2x2 way. Re-read what he said. Surely you can understand that. Can't you? When people who go to meetings, believe that meetings are the only way they make statements like Todd's. Sadly often times they don't realize how silly they look. Surely you understand that...but then maybe you don't seeing you are also a staunch 2x2 follower. You have made that very clear in your posts. No it don't, it means exactly what he wrote. Hope you don't feel silly if you ever find out you are wrong. If you don't like what we say/believe you are not asked to partake Thanks Kiwi, When I was talking about God's way I actually meant God's way. Maybe someguy is yet another one who thought that a preacher reading about God's way from the bible and speaking about God's way, somehow meant meant some other way, and not God's way that they were reading from God's word, in the bible that he gave for our instruction. Maybe we'll never understand how that happens... well, that is until we read 2 Corinthians 4:4 & 5.
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Post by ilylo on Jan 4, 2009 1:50:35 GMT -5
God's way is Jesus. Not your church.
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Post by someguy on Jan 4, 2009 1:54:17 GMT -5
God's way is Jesus. Not your church. Thanks for your help Todd. What ilylo wrote sums it up quite nicely. I hope what he wrote helps you as well.
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Post by kiwi on Jan 4, 2009 2:07:46 GMT -5
Have you ever thought that you and Todd are speaking of the same thing? Because the way that Todd is speaking of is Jesus Oh and by the way following Jesus is the way of God. And by the way it is not Christlike to label people as ignorant And a Christian is a person is tolerant of others. All people are ignorant of many things but don't deserve to be called such, maybe that could be called an ignorance to call people ingnorant. I know you are quite wrong about so many believe in a system and not Jesus and it would be quite ignorant to say so. Not once has Todd mentioned a system, that has totally from you. I totally believe what Todd wrote in his last post is totally honest and true. Todd has not spoken of following the workers but Jesus that is your suggestion. But don't forget that Paul spoke of following him. 1 Corinthians 4:16 - Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. 1 Corinthians 11:1 - Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. All I can say is that I believe that Todd is a follower of Jesus as we all are. Gods servants are followers of Jesus and we are followers of them in Christ. If you believe the word that comes from their mouths as if it is the word of Jesus then you cannot help be followers of them or you don't believe them or the word that issues from their mouths.
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Post by kiwi on Jan 4, 2009 2:10:54 GMT -5
God's way is Jesus. Not your church. Thanks for your help Todd. What ilylo wrote sums it up quite nicely. I hope what he wrote helps you as well. No body has said it is, it has always been the Church of Jesus Christ.
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Post by todd on Jan 4, 2009 2:13:15 GMT -5
God's way is Jesus. Not your church. Thanks for your help Todd. What ilylo wrote sums it up quite nicely. I hope what he wrote helps you as well. If he means that God's way is in following Jesus then yes, that is very helpful. It is not about belonging to a church. I have been trying to say that, but obviously I am not very good at communicating.
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Post by Scott Ross on Jan 4, 2009 2:15:49 GMT -5
but obviously I am not very good at communicating. Something I can agree with you about todd!!
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Post by someguy on Jan 4, 2009 2:17:39 GMT -5
If he means that God's way is in following Jesus then yes, that is very helpful. It is not about belonging to a church. I have been trying to say that, but obviously I am not very good at communicating. If that is what you are saying then perfect, you and me are on the same page. sorry to misunderstand you.
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Post by ilylo on Jan 4, 2009 2:32:34 GMT -5
Thanks for your help Todd. What ilylo wrote sums it up quite nicely. I hope what he wrote helps you as well. If he means that God's way is in following Jesus then yes, that is very helpful. It is not about belonging to a church. I have been trying to say that, but obviously I am not very good at communicating. No, todd. I said exactly what I mean. And I agree. You are terrible at communicating. Let's try this again: God's way is Jesus. Your church is not God's way.
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Post by Happy Feet on Jan 4, 2009 3:04:54 GMT -5
Thanks for your help Todd. What ilylo wrote sums it up quite nicely. I hope what he wrote helps you as well. If he means that God's way is in following Jesus then yes, that is very helpful. It is not about belonging to a church. I have been trying to say that, but obviously I am not very good at communicating. You contradict yourself Todd. You said that your group is called the way of God Todd's post number 566: Quote:Seems that you prefer others to call your group the way of God and not the 2x2s. Yes I do.
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Post by todd on Jan 4, 2009 3:11:32 GMT -5
If he means that God's way is in following Jesus then yes, that is very helpful. It is not about belonging to a church. I have been trying to say that, but obviously I am not very good at communicating. If that is what you are saying then perfect, you and me are on the same page. sorry to misunderstand you. No worries at all. It sounds like you and I both are just as keen that people come to understand that the way of God is not about being a member of an earthly church.
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Post by todd on Jan 4, 2009 3:25:50 GMT -5
If he means that God's way is in following Jesus then yes, that is very helpful. It is not about belonging to a church. I have been trying to say that, but obviously I am not very good at communicating. You contradict yourself Todd. You said that your group is called the way of God Todd's post number 566: Quote:Seems that you prefer others to call your group the way of God and not the 2x2s. Yes I do. Yes I was talking about the group that profess to follow God's way.
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Post by ilylo on Jan 4, 2009 3:39:33 GMT -5
You contradict yourself Todd. You said that your group is called the way of God Todd's post number 566: Quote:Seems that you prefer others to call your group the way of God and not the 2x2s. Yes I do. Yes I was talking about the group that profess to follow God's way. Since you regard your church as God's way, it would be entertaining to watch you chase your tail explaining how your group follows itself.
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Post by todd on Jan 4, 2009 3:40:32 GMT -5
but obviously I am not very good at communicating. Something I can agree with you about todd!! You are terrible at communicating. Sorry... if I said "God's way" and you thought I meant "non-God's way", I will try to make myself clearer next time
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Post by ilylo on Jan 4, 2009 4:06:56 GMT -5
LOL... that tail sure does move fast, doesn't it?
todd, I've got a newsflash for you: God's way is Jesus.
I know that upsets you to no end since I didn't include your group in that statement, but you're just going to have to deal with it.
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Post by todd on Jan 4, 2009 4:07:04 GMT -5
If he means that God's way is in following Jesus then yes, that is very helpful. It is not about belonging to a church. I have been trying to say that, but obviously I am not very good at communicating. No, todd. I said exactly what I mean... Let's try this again: God's way is Jesus. God's way existed before Jesus was born. There is no doubt that Jesus is a huge part of God's plan, and that we would not have any hope of salvation without him, so I am happy when you say that "God's way is Jesus" seeing he is the major part of God's way. I just hope other people know what that means. God's way is following Jesus, and believing in Jesus.
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Post by Happy Feet on Jan 4, 2009 15:20:58 GMT -5
If God's way existed before Jesus was born then how could God's way be following Jesus, and believing in Jesus if he hadn't even been born and no one knew about him?
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Post by Sharon on Jan 4, 2009 16:45:41 GMT -5
All this rancor reminds me of the devils that Jesus met in His life upon the earth...You know everyone of them knew who Jesus was...but still they were devils...scarey isn't it?
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Jan 4, 2009 17:38:54 GMT -5
The idea that "old" is a post from five months ago on a board that was open until three weeks ago is obviously a highly subjective assessment. This is useful remember because it means objective readers don't necessarily have to take the idea that daybreak's post is "unsubstantiated hearsay" seriously either. Next. You sure do have a fetish for that unsubstantiated hearsay post on the old TLT forum. If it wasn't for that one stray comment, you wouldn't have anything to say at all. ...come to think of it... you don't anyway.
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Post by ilylo on Jan 4, 2009 18:09:08 GMT -5
Hey blind man,
I said that the forum was old, not the post.
Come on, Jesse. Can you please put some substance in your noise?
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