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Post by GuestNatalie on Jun 6, 2006 2:16:52 GMT -5
Ellen, people on here have it all wrong. I agree with you.Maybe there is two simillar groups. I have been attending these meetings for a while now, and have no problems with what is said, or anything. They have wonderful teachings, and it is NOT all based on works. JC is the centre of the meeting every time! Please son't get caught up in what people here say! Many don't know what they are talking about. I really do think that they are talking about something different. I have read many posts on here, and when they list what we do and don't believe, it is usually totally wrong. It is not a cult, it is merely another religion. You will certainly not be a victim if you "join" but will be fulfilled. Please don't let those who thin they know turn you off! All the best to you.
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Post by Popsy2 on Jun 6, 2006 3:08:51 GMT -5
I can echo the thoughts of Natalie. I, with my hustband have been attending and find it really weird how what we hear and discuss with these people is SO different to whats discussed on this board, and websites like that TTT or whatever its called.
I have attended for 6 months. Have heard only biblical stuff, and Jesus focussed. No works, in fact a preaching against the theory of salvation by works. No emphasis on dress code, though there is one it seems voluntary as there's lots of exceptions.
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Post by to ellen on Jun 6, 2006 3:17:59 GMT -5
My advise to you is to read the Word of God and not take any stock in what is being said in all these posts on this web site.
All here will only confuse you as there are to many of human minds being displayed here.
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Post by ex-teenager on Jun 6, 2006 3:20:15 GMT -5
My advise to you is to read the Word of God and not take any stock in what is being said in all these posts on this web site. All here will only confuse you as there are to many of human minds being displayed here. Exactly. Why would you look at someone elses life, when salvation is personal to you.
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Post by dumb on Jun 6, 2006 4:44:52 GMT -5
My advise to you is to read the Word of God and not take any stock in what is being said in all these posts on this web site. All here will only confuse you as there are to many of human minds being displayed here. Exactly. Why would you look at someone elses life, when salavation is personal to you. Exactly, Why would you look at someone elses life, say the life of Jesus, when salvation is personal to you?
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Post by ilylo on Jun 6, 2006 4:49:47 GMT -5
All here will only confuse you as there are to many of human minds being displayed here. ...including the one in this quote.
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Post by Jessi on Jun 6, 2006 5:53:43 GMT -5
The Word of God is quick and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart (KJV). Hebrews 12:4
God is at work here and other places, drawing those who are His to Him. If you are His, you WILL come (Jn 6:44). If you you really want to know the truth, you will find it in the Holy Word, which is INSPIRED, breathed out by God (II Pet 1:20-21)
Jer 1:5 - Before I formed you in the womb I knew you and before you were born I consecrated you: I appointed you a prophet to the nations.
He did the same with David and with John the Baptist - and in fact ALL his appointed ones, every Christian has been marked already from the womb (Romans 9, John 17:9, given as a gift to the Son from the Father).
Jesus lives, Jessi
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Post by amazed on Jun 6, 2006 8:35:24 GMT -5
This is from a post on June 4th by eurp. ""Surely you can't believe that someone can be saved in other churches can you?" " I've never heard a worker say this, or say something like this. I'm not saying that some don't, just that in 30 years I personally never heard it said. How can you be new to meetings but have 30 years experience? Something fishy is going on here. How nice to try to poke holes in things that exes say by being sneaky and cowardly. This definately isn't something Jesus would do.
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Post by lloydswanson on Jun 6, 2006 8:40:35 GMT -5
eurp is a fake its obvious ellen is eurp even ha idiot can see that!!!! lol
suckers
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Post by amazed on Jun 6, 2006 8:50:26 GMT -5
eurp is a fake its obvious ellen is eurp even ha unlearned person can see that!!!! lol suckers That's nice.
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Post by guesty on Jun 6, 2006 21:25:08 GMT -5
Ellen, My advice to you is to ask as many questions as you possibly can think of and judge for yourself. That is what I was encouraged to do and I am very glad that I did it. Also, There is so much bitterness on here. Much generalization i.e. "the workers don't preach Christ." Then call that statement the truth with no other explanation. Keep your eyes open, ask all the questions you can think of and remember no person is perfect be they friend, "ex prefessing person" worker etc. The Lord is what matters.
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Post by guestnatalie on Jun 8, 2006 7:46:30 GMT -5
thank you.
Ellen, I hope that you just listen to your heart, and read and pray, and you will find the answers you are looking for. These boards are merely opinions, including mine, so you need to work it out for yourself. I remember when I professed, that hearing things like cult, and sect freaked me out. But it was the ex friends that were the worst. Those that had an axe to grind. Please, make your own decision, based on your own observations and opinions. Don't let "exes" or friends put you off. It is you that has to stand by the choise you make.
All the best to you. I hope that you keep attending, and find the answers you are looking for. If not, thats fine, but let it be because you decided, not that you let others decide for you.
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Post by Greg Lee unplugged on Jun 8, 2006 22:53:43 GMT -5
So, eurp was Ellen and now "both" are gone or using another name or just reading?
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Post by Give me a break on Jun 9, 2006 10:22:34 GMT -5
Many don't know what they are talking about>>>> >>>>> natalie, How dare you insult our intelligence! Some here were professing before you were born! Trust me, honey, we kNOW WHAT we are talking about.
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Post by sjg on Jun 9, 2006 14:01:15 GMT -5
"It is you that has to stand by the choise you make."
Yes, you and you alone will stand before God. There will be no worker(s) to serve as mediator(s). Now then ....not now. The choice IS yours.
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Post by sjg on Jun 9, 2006 18:31:24 GMT -5
correction --- My above post should have read:
Yes, you and you alone will stand before God. There will be no worker(s) to serve as mediator(s). NOT then ....not now. The choice IS yours.
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Jun 9, 2006 20:14:11 GMT -5
Ellen, some states (and some cities within those states) are more strict than others. I often call the meetings "church", I prefer to call the workers "ministers" and I choose not to wear skirts 24/7. While some areas might push certain ideas on you, other areas are very relaxed and realize that it's about the spirit, not about how you look.
Whatever your choice... to stay or go, let it be one from God... and not from any of us.
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Post by the garden on Jun 10, 2006 0:30:07 GMT -5
It has been my general impression (2x2ism) that salvation is a tentative & fragile condition that can be won or lost, & must be maintained constantly. One must tend one's spiritual garden, lest weeds take over & destroy the garden.
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Post by eurp on Jun 10, 2006 14:43:02 GMT -5
I've been in hospital so unable to post here. Thanks for the many replies to my earlier post.
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Post by lloydswanson on Jun 10, 2006 14:50:07 GMT -5
i dont believe you exist eurp
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Post by bowhunter on Jun 10, 2006 19:24:48 GMT -5
Run away as fast as you can!!
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Post by IllinoisGal on Jun 10, 2006 20:02:35 GMT -5
could eurp and C be the same person? They seem to have the same posting style
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Post by Guest Natalie on Jun 11, 2006 16:52:59 GMT -5
Give me a break - trust me, HONEY, you have no idea how old I am or how long I have been attending meetings. You insult your own intelligence by believing that you can tell that from what I wrote. I wasn't more specific because I didn't feel the need to be. I was born into a professing family, and have attended all my life. And I am not young!
Secondly, I was merely stating a fact. Many "exes" do have an axe to grind and make no bones about spouting forth. Then again, so do the friends.
Thirdly, I believe I said not to let "exes" OR "friends" put you off!!!!!! As it could be either!!!!!
Perhaps you should read things before making rash statements. Believe me, it wasn't me that was insulting your intelligence. You did that all by yourself. It was never my intention to insult anyone.
To SJG GUEST - I am very aware that we will stand before God alone. I don't, and don't know anyone in my church, that believe's otherwise. The "workers" are merely like other ministers, from other churches, preaching the word of God. I don't believe that they are better than anyone else, or that we need to have the approval of them to be "professing". God, and God alone is the judge, and I will live my life as I feel God would want.
Also, many have stated that we believe that if you are not "professing" that you will are not a child of God. I would like to correct this if I may. I certainly don't believe that! Many of my friends are christians, and they all go to different churches, but I still believe that they are a child of God's. I have also read that we believe that faith is entirely based on works. This is also incorrect. But faith without works is dead - as the bible says. But by works, it doesn't mean giving to charities etc, but works for the Lord. Not just saying we have faith, but proving it by the way we walk before the Lord.
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Post by Unafraid on Jun 12, 2006 6:29:57 GMT -5
I logged on here with the express wish of correcting charges about beliefs against professing people. That is no longer necessary. Thanks
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Post by las unplugged on Jun 12, 2006 6:32:06 GMT -5
i dont believe you exist eurp I never posted this quote
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Post by Heidi on Jun 13, 2006 9:05:49 GMT -5
Ellen, I think your mousehole is probably the best place to be. Another "church" will receive you better and be able to answer all of your questions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2006 9:18:58 GMT -5
I've been in hospital so unable to post here. Thanks for the many replies to my earlier post. How are you ? Karl
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Post by sjg on Jun 13, 2006 20:57:41 GMT -5
To guest Natalie,
You said in an earlier quote, "Also, many have stated that we believe that if you are not "professing" that you will are not a child of God. I would like to correct this if I may. I certainly don't believe that! Many of my friends are christians, and they all go to different churches, but I still believe that they are a child of God's."
I am happy to hear that this is what YOU believe. BUT, have you expressed this belief to the workers in your field? They would not agree.
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