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Post by 3rdClassBoy on Mar 22, 2006 13:10:00 GMT -5
Hey, it's not the workers' fault if God wants them to fly first class to really cool places all around the world on someone else's dime. They are only doing His work: Luke777:10 "Book thee not economy lest it vex thy spirit and pleaseth me not. Also, check out Hong Kong"  |
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Post by seeing different on Mar 22, 2006 13:24:50 GMT -5
Hey, it's not the workers' fault if God wants them to fly first class to really cool places all around the world on someone else's dime. They are only doing His work: Luke777:10 "Book thee not economy lest it vex thy spirit and pleaseth me not. Also, check out Hong Kong" "All the gold;; in California, Is in a bank in the middle of Beverly Hills, In somebody else's name..." |
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Post by flying different on Mar 22, 2006 13:29:25 GMT -5
Hey, it's not the workers' fault if God wants them to fly first class to really cool places all around the world on someone else's dime. They are only doing His work: Luke777:10 "Book thee not economy lest it vex thy spirit and pleaseth me not. Also, check out Hong Kong" "All the gold;; in California, Is in a bank in the middle of Beverly Hills, In somebody else's name..." I think they should just fly, fly, fly.......just like a bird or a fly and fly high in the sky and flirt with the flight attendents and order co-cktails, and and just have a wonderful time; because you never know, they might just get the chance to invite someone to meetings and talk about the Gospel and where they are going and stuff like that; and I think they should read their Bible while they are flying, because people will really sit up and take notice then. Yeah, I think it's just GREAT for workers to fly; a opposed to swimming across the ocean.do tell. My lands! |
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Post by to Alistair on Mar 22, 2006 14:04:56 GMT -5
Most times in Europe the Workers will travel "first class" or "business" air fare, not only paying the higher prices but booking the plumb seats in the progress. I have heard this justified that it can work out cheaper to make a block of bookings either first class or business. However I don't know the ins and outs of it. Often when I think of this I cannot help but consider the old dears who are struggling on a pension and throwing in a lot more than their two mites worth to pay for all this. How much have YOU thrown in? I am pretty sure that the ones who have a problem with the workers' spending, probably do not even give them a dime. I say, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.No one tells you how to spend YOUR money.When something is given AWAY,the recipient is FREE to do what they want with it. And to Edgar, do you care to give us a breakdown on HOW you spent the money you received while in the work? |
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Post by Seabisquit on Mar 22, 2006 14:16:34 GMT -5
'Jet setting' can hardly be regarded as a sin -- However I don't think that the demand for 'honesty' can be exclusively reserved for the 'bitter' as Tulip has implied. I have full understanding for folks who notice the dishonest contradiction of workers who claim extreme poverty, blatently deny any form of organizational ecconomic strength --- and then turn up with 5-10 air tickets for high status leadership to the next leg of the European convention season. Honesty should not be regarded as an old-fashioned virtue reserved for the bitter!!! Edgar I would have to agree with Edgar that no one has a problem with the workers flying anywhere. The whole issue goes back to the fact that they CLAIM to be "poor homeless preachers". |
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Post by Seabisquit on Mar 22, 2006 14:19:53 GMT -5
POOR HOMELESS people don't fly all over the world.
(In case no one had noticed!! )
The other issue I would have with it would be that if they were actually ministering to the unsaved that would be perfectly fine in my book BUT they are just flying around to be with other 2X2ers. And how does that bring people to Christ?
JMO (Just My Opinion)
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Post by TULIP on Mar 22, 2006 14:55:39 GMT -5
Irrelevant to my point…  Not so irrelevant really!! You asked "who cares". Well OBVIOUSLY there is some care expressed in the above posts. But I think you have twisted the origin of their care. If you read back, the main concern is not that they fly on planes, it is the inconsistency. Not one single poster in this thread has suggested that the workers should NOT fly.So the response you got to your blast regarding the STUPID postings is quite relevant. Untwist you knickers by not engaging. Obviously there is an interest in this thread. So I'm the one twisting... Ok... Tell me WHY we should be talking about the workers flying under a thread called 'Jet setting workers'? And WHY should we care? Tell me please... Is it to stir the pot/come up with useless discussions to fill this board and empty minds or is there a justifiable reason? |
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Post by Maggie on Mar 22, 2006 15:12:37 GMT -5
......... And WHY should we care? Tell me please... .......... Oh dear!!! Where should I start? No one is suggesting that you should care. But clearly, some people do care. Not as you suggested, that workers should not fly, but an inconsistency in what they say about themselves and just as importantly, how they trash others for similar or exactly the same behaviours. It is immaterial whether you care. If you don't, well don't get all in a snit. If you do care, then discuss the issue. |
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Post by IMHO on Mar 22, 2006 15:20:06 GMT -5
......... And WHY should we care? Tell me please... .......... Oh dear!!! Where should I start? No one is suggesting that you should care. But clearly, some people do care. Not as you suggested, that workers should not fly, but an inconsistency in what they say about themselves and just as importantly, how they trash others for similar or exactly the same behaviours. It is immaterial whether you care. If you don't, well don't get all in a snit. If you do care, then discuss the issue. Yes I agree we all trash the faults of others , but our own we fail to acknowledge mostly. I do not know the specifics, and there may well be a vallid reason, unknown to me, for doing things out of the ordinary in some situations....Maybe we could conduct an interview with those involved in these missteppings, that you refer to?? |
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Post by Alistair Duntosher on Mar 22, 2006 15:22:17 GMT -5
Dear "to Alistair" (reply #31), I no longer attend F&W fellowship, but I did for many, many years. During those years I cast in much more than my share because (believe it or not) I felt if I had any excess it should go to the Workers. I used to be bamboozled at how much I should give to the Workers and asked more than a few Friends and Workers to give me some sort of idea. All I ever was advised was "to give what you can !"
You know, in my naivety that's exactly what I did. Anything over and above day to day living was "cast in !" It took me a looooooong time to wizen up.
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Post by TULIP on Mar 22, 2006 15:24:57 GMT -5
......... And WHY should we care? Tell me please... .......... Oh dear!!! Where should I start? No one is suggesting that you should care. But clearly, some people do care. Not as you suggested, that workers should not fly, but an inconsistency in what they say about themselves and just as importantly, how they trash others for similar or exactly the same behaviours. It is immaterial whether you care. If you don't, well don't get all in a snit. If you do care, then discuss the issue. mag dear, This is just another lame thread that clogs up this board and brings it down into the gutter.... same with all the other gossip filled and stur the pot posts... If that something you want to stand behind and defend, then so be it... However, I CHOOSE not to and CHOOSE to be vocal about it... |
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Post by towit on Mar 22, 2006 15:36:11 GMT -5
POOR HOMELESS people don't fly all over the world. (In case no one had noticed!! ) The other issue I would have with it would be that if they were actually ministering to the unsaved that would be perfectly fine in my book BUT they are just flying around to be with other 2X2ers. And how does that bring people to Christ? JMO (Just My Opinion) seabisquit, I love the book Seabiscuit, by the way. The movie was OK, but the book better. Let's say, that the workers didn't fly to other parts of the country or world to be with fellow believers, or for a visit back home, or whatever. Let's just pretend that it was against their "religion." Wouldn't this discussion thread then be about how "backwards" and "dumb" and "misguided" the workers were for not taking advantage of modern transportation? Just a thought. Wisdom is justified of her children. Sincerely, towit |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2006 15:52:40 GMT -5
Oh dear!!! Where should I start? No one is suggesting that you should care. But clearly, some people do care. Not as you suggested, that workers should not fly, but an inconsistency in what they say about themselves and just as importantly, how they trash others for similar or exactly the same behaviours. It is immaterial whether you care. If you don't, well don't get all in a snit. If you do care, then discuss the issue. mag dear, This is just another lame thread that clogs up this board and brings it down into the gutter.... same with all the other gossip filled and stur the pot posts... If that something you want to stand behind and defend, then so be it... However, I CHOOSE not to and CHOOSE to be vocal about it... Tulip You are welcome to your opinions -- but honestly, do you feel that your posts to this thread add quality? There are thousands of spots on the Internet that may suit your fancies better -- click there instead!!! Some of us have choosen to share our thoughts here -- and if you feel to wise for our company, we are sorry. We will try and make out without your wisdom as best we can. Edgar |
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Post by TULIP on Mar 22, 2006 16:03:23 GMT -5
Do you feel the creation of this thread was motivated out of such quality?
That’s what I thought…
Edgar, do you feel that your patronizing comments towards me adds quality to this thread?
That’s what I thought…
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Post by main man on Mar 22, 2006 18:01:45 GMT -5
Come on all you that do not have burning hatred in your soul for these worthless,sit in the back of the bus, low lives ,2x2ers-please get off this site so we can do some serious butt kickin.
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Post by by on Mar 22, 2006 18:37:17 GMT -5
Come on all you that do not have burning hatred in your soul for these worthless,sit in the back of the bus, low lives ,2x2ers-please get off this site so we can do some serious butt kickin. by all means ;D we don't need you lot anyway we also don't mind if you go around kicking the daylights out of each other |
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Post by ghost on Mar 24, 2006 11:35:03 GMT -5
The title of this thead should be:
Jet setting HOMELESS TAX EXEMPT workers - with fat bank accounts
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Post by ghost on Mar 24, 2006 11:37:47 GMT -5
... who preach that ONLY HUMILITY and the NARROW WAY of their own version of Christianity brings salvation
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Post by SX on Mar 25, 2006 7:23:55 GMT -5
KY head worker Glenn Gasser has been in the Orient this spring. He even missed special meetings in his own state!
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Post by mrtindrucvionging on Mar 25, 2006 18:33:11 GMT -5
... who preach that ONLY HUMILITY and the NARROW WAY of their own version of Christianity brings salvation Ghost, Have you checked your 'pride-ometer' lately? |
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Post by panties not in a twist on Mar 25, 2006 20:09:57 GMT -5
I am the author of this thread...and my panties are not at all in a twist RE: whether workers, or Billy Graham travels by air. I don't care; I am merely curious as to what others think.  |
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Post by mrtindrucvionging on Mar 26, 2006 0:02:40 GMT -5
I am the author of this thread...and my panties are not at all in a twist RE: whether workers, or Billy Graham travels by air. I don't care; I am merely curious as to what others think. Makes no difference to me. |
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Post by ghost on Mar 26, 2006 3:37:06 GMT -5
Ghost, Have you checked your 'pride-ometer' lately? Can I borrow yours? |
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Post by ghost on Mar 26, 2006 3:42:22 GMT -5
The title of this thead should be:
Jet setting HOMELESS TAX EXEMPT workers - with fat bank accounts ... who preach that ONLY HUMILITY and the NARROW WAY of their own version of Christianity brings salvation
If this sounds as a contradiction in terms, or an oxymoron, that is exctly what it is - like the teachings of these ... (well let's not use bad words here) people who ruin lives and families and even the spirit of the gospel.
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Post by bit on Mar 26, 2006 4:35:17 GMT -5
The title of this thead should be:
Jet setting HOMELESS TAX EXEMPT workers - with fat bank accounts ... who preach that ONLY HUMILITY and the NARROW WAY of their own version of Christianity brings salvationIf this sounds as a contradiction in terms, or an oxymoron, that is exctly what it is - like the teachings of these ... (well let's not use bad words here) people who ruin lives and families and even the spirit of the gospel. bit of a sick unit are you? |
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Post by gotta problem on Mar 26, 2006 5:18:59 GMT -5
Ghost, I beg your pardon, but my 55 + year long professing parents find much satisfaction in the professing way. You gotta problem with it?
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Post by intelligent discourse on Mar 26, 2006 5:27:13 GMT -5
Where do some of us get off, using abusive and crude language...when intelligent discourse would suffice?
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Post by ghost on Mar 26, 2006 6:05:39 GMT -5
Ghost, I beg your pardon, but my 55 + year long professing parents find much satisfaction in the professing way. You gotta problem with it? Not at all. I wish your parents a long happy life ! My problem lies with people who use honest, law abiding, God-fearing people like your parents to their own profit and who want to interfere with the lives of people to satisfy their own crave fro power. No I do not have any problem with your parents - I wish them they never face the REAL motives and faces of the «workers». |
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