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Post by nathan2 on Feb 17, 2024 10:31:35 GMT -5
]Yes, that's it. No heaven, no hell. The only possible after life experience they anticipate is that if they have kept the Jewish Law perfectly, they may be resurrected in some final judgement day for the world. And even that is kind of a fuzzy belief among observant Jews. Otherwise, when you die you are just dead, and hope they've left your bones in order in case you're lucky enough to be resurrected.That was something that always tormented my dad. In the end, he opted for cremation. I remember, however, him asking how people resurrect when they are blown apart by bombs or have to have a limb removed. Interesting the things that torment people. It doesn’t matter how and where your ashes in the ground or in the ocean, God can raise it back to life at the rapture moment! With the new resurrection bodies for the true believers so, they can Reign and Rule with Christ 1000 years on earth/Universe. The souls of True believers are in heaven/Interior planet resting/waiting for God to join with their New Resurrection bodies on earth. Read Rev. chapter 5.
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Post by Lee on Feb 17, 2024 10:53:59 GMT -5
You’ve stood culture and ethnology on its head. Classically we sensed if we knew ourselves better, our differences might be overcome. Then, we suspected we might have been offspring of a common creator. Not so today. Today people suspect culture is a source of tyranny to rebel from. For example, thanks to you and other atheists, today kids “learn” outside of Russia that biology should have no bearing on their gender. We have a covin of teachers, parents, school board trustees, and activists today, who believe we should indoctrinate and practice sexual-spiritual experimentation (abuse) on children. Even though you have just characterised me wrong, why don't you just go live in Russia then........ It’s a bit like Siberia, living in the mountains of California. “We Live in the Soviet Union Now” By Roger Simon Commentary I have visited Russia four times, twice during Soviet times and twice since then. On those first two trips—and to a lesser extent the latter two—although fascinated while there, I was hugely relieved when I left. I felt I was in a giant jail. I feel the same way now in my own country, the supposed “land of the free,” the United States of America. Every day, it increasingly reminds me of Russia, yet more in its Soviet version. Justice is being weaponized Stalin-style at all levels of our government with, unfortunately, little resistance. Basically, we have our own Purge Trials now and our own Gulag for Jan. 6 prisoners. (Speaking of J6, I can't resist a shoutout to Steve Baker, whose coverage at The Blaze of this highly suspicious event continues to be superb. The Epoch Times has also more than done its part.) All of this brings back memories of my visits to Russia when Soviet writers whispered in my ear, “Roger, help me get out.” Taken aback, I had no idea how to do that. It was at once an enlightening and unnerving experience. I remember one instance particularly well. I was standing in a small apartment in a building known as Screenwriter 1—the Soviets kept their scriveners of all sorts close—when a man I had heard was a renowned scholar of the recently revealed “excesses” of the Stalin period made the above request in the tiny kitchen, sweating profusely while glancing over his shoulder to make sure we were not being overheard. When someone looked up, he started coughing and pouring himself some water. That was on my first visit to the country on a cultural exchange-type tour with the International Association of Crime Writers, a now-defunct organization of which I was then North American vice president. Trumpeted as the first writers’ organization with members on both sides of the Iron Curtain (late 1980s), I quickly realized it was a front organization of some sort. I went along with it, perhaps a bit naively but also because, as a writer, it provided the opportunity to see a world otherwise inaccessible. This is why, among other reasons, I was tremendously supportive of Tucker Carlson’s interview with Vladimir Putin. Know your adversary. Let him talk. Or, as Joseph Conrad wrote long ago, a writer’s mission is “to make you see.” Few of us have Conrad’s skills. Nevertheless, you can’t make anyone see anything without seeing for yourself. The Soviets apparently mistook my curiosity for support or wanted to turn it that way. Later on the trip, in the very Hotel Yalta (yes, I was in the Crimea when it was part of the USSR) where Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill negotiated the post-war world, I was offered the opportunity to “help them” (i.e., join the KGB) by a female interviewer from Soviet Screen. Was this forwarded to you? Sign-up for an all access digital subscription, or register for a free account. I have written about that more extensively in a book but suffice it to say I was scared out of my wits and got out of that “interview” as quickly as possible. That journey and my subsequent trip with a group of supposedly prominent screenwriters arranged by the Writers Guild helped turn me away from the left forever. It also helped alert me to the different styles of totalitarianism as history moves on. It exposed communism itself not as any kind of Marxist idealism but actually what one might call the most hierarchical, undemocratic, and corrupt form of capitalism. Only certain people were allowed to stay rich and powerful. All others stay out. I saw this on my third trip during the putatively post-communist era when I received the following phone call in Los Angeles from my friend Masha in Moscow: “Roger, how would you like to come to Siberia and to come back?” In the Russian dark comic style, she was offering me the opportunity to be on the jury of a film festival in Khanty-Mansisk, Siberia. Who was I to resist? They even threw in a $5,000 honorarium that it turned out they kept forgetting what they said when I got there. What I experienced was the same dishonesty and corruption I had seen during the Soviet period, mixed with that same wonder experienced by Tucker when he recently showed footage of the extraordinary, graffiti-free, and remarkably safe—especially as compared to ours—Moscow subway. Yes, I was shown then some cabins seemingly on the far end of nowhere that were once part of the Gulag. On the other hand, Siberia itself was astonishingly beautiful. Nothing is all that simple, although Russia still had that ominous feeling that many are now getting here. I still wanted to get out of there at the end of the week and feared I would be stopped, for whatever reasons, by the latest avatar of the KGB. This isn't a good way to live. In fact, it’s horrible. When you begin to suspect that your government, or part of it, is planting phony pipe bombs in front of the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee for dubious political purposes, you are in Stalinland. When they use the justice system in multiple venues to handcuff (literally) the leading opponent of the opposing party, this isn't just a banana republic, as some are inserting. It is, to those of us familiar with those aforementioned Purge Trials, literally Stalinist. Fixing this won't be easy. This infiltration of our country has been many years in the making and will take great sustained effort to unwind. The good news is we all have something meaningful to do with our lives. Stay grateful and stay vigilant. And speaking of grateful, I am extremely grateful to those who left reviews for my new book “American Refugees” on Amazon, where they are currently running at 4.8 stars
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Post by Lee on Feb 17, 2024 11:01:30 GMT -5
Your humility is false. True humility has a locus of love and responsibility. True humility is endowed with soul, a gift from God. Right, true humility is spiritually killing those pointing out facts about the culture you have appropriated for your own magical reward...... Are you saying atheists tell more truth than some Christians? I’d say there’s some truth to that Magical reward? How do you differentiate between character that is sentimental, fake, or affected and that which is real? I submit to you, people are being refined all of the time. That this is occurring, is evidence the HS is acting upon the sons of man. Are you a truly a materialist? Doesn’t the evidence show, that man doesn’t live on bread alone?
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Post by Lee on Feb 17, 2024 11:16:09 GMT -5
The reward of eternal life is the perfection of expertise over whatever area of custodial responsibility you’re gifted.
Isn’t that what would make the world tolerable, ….. that of qualified, capable, benevolent leadership….. from parents, to clergy, to civic leaders, to doctors, to presidents?
Does this not comprise the corps of the apostolic confession? An identification apart form the powers that shouldn't be, and an initiation/repatriation into the kingdom of God’s son?
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 17, 2024 11:41:56 GMT -5
All I did was point Jesus teachings which you don’t agree with. Read Jesus own teachings they are NOT mine. John 3:16-21. Jesus spoke about heaven and hell/Luke 16, which you don’t believe in. Like I said, confident enough in your own rightness to infer I'm headed to and deserve Hell. You need to KNOW what Jesus has to say about it in Matthew 7:21-28! People are head to the WRONG place because they build their faith, belief and understanding on the SAND foundation= the teachings of men, their ideas and opinions are NOT according to Jesus apostolic Itinerant New Test. Ministry and fellowship! In the judgment day! God the Father and Christ will say to them “Depart from me, ye workers of iniquity, I NEVER KNEW you.” Why? because all of their good preaching and good works didn’t have God’s approval so, it all good for nothing! They get no rewards or eternal life.
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Post by Lee on Feb 17, 2024 11:58:19 GMT -5
Nathan, do you hold that reality is hemispherically comprised of capital T Truth and lower case truth?
That is how my dad rationalizes the authority of the workers, while dismissing the stinky fruits that emerge under their administration.
This conceptual bifurcation of piety came up in the Laura Glantz interview. In search of coherancy after her deranging experience at the hands of an elder in the 2x2, she sought to aggregate all things under One single, uniting interpretive assumption or filter.
Truth came to be two-storied during the Protestant era. Like James’s rebuke of the double minded man, this trend of cultural bankruptcy is no bueno to the Soul.
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Post by chuck on Feb 17, 2024 16:00:58 GMT -5
I think you are confusing things, reading in historical context is a deliberate thought process, it is not an expertise in history. It doesn't take expertise to sit behind the writer or teller of historical events and look forward, it is helpful though to listen or read about the context provided by experts in any given field when reading history, then you could see how calling people illiterate goat-herders on the verses I shared is lacking in critical thought given the advantage of an extra 2000 years of scientific knowledge at hand and the benefit of cultural advancement you have. If you want to know about Marcion you will have to read about him like I would have to. So you admit you have no clue about who Marcion of Sinope of was. Reading in historical context means understanding history. It means gathering data and examining that data. You can't just sit in a comfy chair and make up stuff and call that deep thinking. I already did "listen or read about the context provided by experts" and I already know what the experts say. If you had been reading my posts, you would know that I have been following the work of Mark Bilby. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mpdxryvClI Gospel Open Data Science: Session 003 [Blessings & Curses] Feb 15, 2024 Mapping the evolution from the First Gospel (Qn) to early Matthew (Mt1) to canonical Luke (Lk2), by turns defending and critiquing traditional reconstructions of Q based on Marcion's Gospel as our primary and earliest basis to establish the scientifically valid text of Qn.
I dont disagree with any of that including the video, the one thing you missed in historical context was asserting moral superiority over those who haven't had the luxury of advancement that you have in the last 2000yrs, in 2000yrs time you are the goat herder with poor hygiene so to speak.... which was and has has been my point and issue with your original reply. Highly religious people said you should act out said rituals in order to be a proper person, in the narrative the Jesus character railed against the idea that washing of hands is what constitutes a proper person, in the context of history it is a point of advancement of how we should look at other people not like us......
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Post by rk0atheist on Feb 17, 2024 16:11:02 GMT -5
So you admit you have no clue about who Marcion of Sinope of was. Reading in historical context means understanding history. It means gathering data and examining that data. You can't just sit in a comfy chair and make up stuff and call that deep thinking. I already did "listen or read about the context provided by experts" and I already know what the experts say. If you had been reading my posts, you would know that I have been following the work of Mark Bilby. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mpdxryvClI Gospel Open Data Science: Session 003 [Blessings & Curses] Feb 15, 2024 Mapping the evolution from the First Gospel (Qn) to early Matthew (Mt1) to canonical Luke (Lk2), by turns defending and critiquing traditional reconstructions of Q based on Marcion's Gospel as our primary and earliest basis to establish the scientifically valid text of Qn.
I dont disagree with any of that including the video, the one thing you missed in historical context was asserting moral superiority over those who haven't had the luxury of advancement that you have in the last 2000yrs, in 2000yrs time you are the goat herder with poor hygiene so to speak.... which was and has has been my point and issue with your original reply. Highly religious people said you should act out said rituals in order to be a proper person, in the narrative the Jesus character railed against the idea that washing of hands is what constitutes a proper person, in the context of history it is a point of advancement of how we should look at other people not like us......
Let's say I'm a devoted disciple of good hand hygiene. It really rubs me the wrong way when a person who should know better tells people to not wash their hands before eating.
It seems you are still a Christian but you no longer believe all the things preached by the 2x2's Truth fellowship. Do you fear Hell? Or is your greatest concern the legacy you leave (or don't leave) behind?
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Post by chuck on Feb 17, 2024 19:43:51 GMT -5
I dont disagree with any of that including the video, the one thing you missed in historical context was asserting moral superiority over those who haven't had the luxury of advancement that you have in the last 2000yrs, in 2000yrs time you are the goat herder with poor hygiene so to speak.... which was and has has been my point and issue with your original reply. Highly religious people said you should act out said rituals in order to be a proper person, in the narrative the Jesus character railed against the idea that washing of hands is what constitutes a proper person, in the context of history it is a point of advancement of how we should look at other people not like us......
Let's say I'm a devoted disciple of good hand hygiene. It really rubs me the wrong way when a person who should know better tells people to not wash their hands before eating.
It seems you are still a Christian but you no longer believe all the things preached by the 2x2's Truth fellowship. Do you fear Hell? Or is your greatest concern the legacy you leave (or don't leave) behind?
I am unsure if you are inferring I was promoting bad hygiene ans should know better or the character in the story was and should know better? Did you look at the previous posts as to why I posted those verses? It was in relation to Nathan inferring again(has already done on numerous occasions previously) that Bob was a improper person because he did not subscribe to Nathans belief system and all that it entails ritualistically. The story indicated religious rituals are not a factor in what constitutes a proper person. Its a excellent piece of advice and still relevant to this very day. Depends on what you think a Christian is. I fear hell alright, I was in the depths of hell for over 30yrs....my greatest concern is I don't treat people lesser because they dont see things like I do, it's harder than it sounds.....like the verses I posted, “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”
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Post by rk0atheist on Feb 17, 2024 20:19:13 GMT -5
Let's say I'm a devoted disciple of good hand hygiene. It really rubs me the wrong way when a person who should know better tells people to not wash their hands before eating.
It seems you are still a Christian but you no longer believe all the things preached by the 2x2's Truth fellowship. Do you fear Hell? Or is your greatest concern the legacy you leave (or don't leave) behind?
I am unsure if you are inferring I was promoting bad hygiene ans should know better or the character in the story was and should know better? Did you look at the previous posts as to why I posted those verses? It was in relation to Nathan inferring again(has already done on numerous occasions previously) that Bob was a improper person because he did not subscribe to Nathans belief system and all that it entails ritualistically. The story indicated religious rituals are not a factor in what constitutes a proper person. Its a excellent piece of advice and still relevant to this very day. Depends on what you think a Christian is. I fear hell alright, I was in the depths of hell for over 30yrs....my greatest concern is I don't treat people lesser because they dont see things like I do, it's harder than it sounds.....like the verses I posted, “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”
You. I was talking about you. You should know better. You made the choice to make that post. You made the choice to quote very bad advice. Don't use Nathan as an excuse. If you thought that the advice you were quoting was bad advice then you shouldn't have quoted it or you should have included a warning along with it.
By your definition of the word, do you consider yourself to be a Christian?
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Post by chuck on Feb 17, 2024 21:05:33 GMT -5
I am unsure if you are inferring I was promoting bad hygiene ans should know better or the character in the story was and should know better? Did you look at the previous posts as to why I posted those verses? It was in relation to Nathan inferring again(has already done on numerous occasions previously) that Bob was a improper person because he did not subscribe to Nathans belief system and all that it entails ritualistically. The story indicated religious rituals are not a factor in what constitutes a proper person. Its a excellent piece of advice and still relevant to this very day. Depends on what you think a Christian is. I fear hell alright, I was in the depths of hell for over 30yrs....my greatest concern is I don't treat people lesser because they dont see things like I do, it's harder than it sounds.....like the verses I posted, “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”
You. I was talking about you. You should know better. You made the choice to make that post. You made the choice to quote very bad advice. Don't use Nathan as an excuse. If you thought that the advice you were quoting was bad advice then you shouldn't have quoted it or you should have included a warning along with it.
By your definition of the word, do you consider yourself to be a Christian?
Are you seriously suggesting I needed to have a disclaimer that it was not hygiene advice and people are too stupid to work that out for themselves?. You have taken it completely out of context for reasons only known to you. I definitely do not blame Nathan for you taking it out of context, that's all on you. I dont define myself as a Christian. This is going nowhere as you keep steering it away from the context of my original post and then subsequent replies.
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Post by rk0atheist on Feb 17, 2024 21:31:49 GMT -5
You. I was talking about you. You should know better. You made the choice to make that post. You made the choice to quote very bad advice. Don't use Nathan as an excuse. If you thought that the advice you were quoting was bad advice then you shouldn't have quoted it or you should have included a warning along with it.
By your definition of the word, do you consider yourself to be a Christian?
Are you seriously suggesting I needed to have a disclaimer that it was not hygiene advice and people are too stupid to work that out for themselves?. You have taken it completely out of context for reasons only known to you. I definitely do not blame Nathan for you taking it out of context, that's all on you. I dont define myself as a Christian. This is going nowhere as you keep steering it away from the context of my original post and then subsequent replies.
I don't know where you wanted it to go but it went exactly where I wanted it to go. You finally admitted that you don't consider yourself to be a Christian. That was what I wanted to know.
I'm not going to ask how you do identify. It would probably take three weeks to get a straight answer out of you and I don't really care. I get the impression that you don't like to make clear statements. You like to make vague statements. It's like you want to make sure you have an exit available in case you want to make a quick escape.
Maybe you are no longer certain what it is that you do believe. Maybe you are questioning many of the things you were taught years ago but don't want to let go. Maybe you don't even know where to look for the answers to the questions that are bothering you.
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Post by rk0atheist on Feb 17, 2024 21:57:06 GMT -5
Are you seriously suggesting I needed to have a disclaimer that it was not hygiene advice and people are too stupid to work that out for themselves?
I expect you will complain if I don't answer this so...
I think you should not have quoted it at all because (1) I really am a devoted disciple of good hand hygiene and (2) you shouldn't be quoting the Christian Bible at all.
Don't assume everyone thinks the same way that you think. When in doubt, spell it out. Better safe than sorry.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 24, 2024 18:48:12 GMT -5
Nathan, do you hold that reality is hemispherically comprised of capital T Truth and lower case truth? That is how my dad rationalizes the authority of the workers, while dismissing the stinky fruits that emerge under their administration. This conceptual bifurcation of piety came up in the Laura Glantz interview. In search of coherancy after her deranging experience at the hands of an elder in the 2x2, she sought to aggregate all things under One single, uniting interpretive assumption or filter. Truth came to be two-storied during the Protestant era. Like James’s rebuke of the double minded man, this trend of cultural bankruptcy is no bueno to the Soul. The Truth and Way of Jesus Christ New Testament 2x2apostolic ministry and worship on Sunday, which the early 2x2 workers uphold and follow…. The current 2x2 adm. is going off the tracts these days… They need to get back on Jesus tracts again to reach the goal.
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Post by Lee on Feb 25, 2024 10:30:15 GMT -5
There’s an intimacy that a home meeting can create where the Holy Spirit flourishes. I’d like to see the format grow independent from the workers need to control everything, with their vain traditions.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 27, 2024 10:21:09 GMT -5
There’s an intimacy that a home meeting can create where the Holy Spirit flourishes. I’d like to see the format grow independent from the workers need to control everything, with their vain traditions. When the workers in the Sunday meetings, they are just like one of the friends, they pray, they sing and give their testimonies, partake the emblems. I just hope and pray the overseers will NEVER disband the Sunday morning/worship gathering! It will be the END for them.
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Post by Lee on Feb 27, 2024 10:24:05 GMT -5
The overseers have been Satan’s primary path to infiltrate. I wouldn’t look to them to lead the way out.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 27, 2024 10:31:32 GMT -5
Nathan, do you hold that reality is hemispherically comprised of capital T Truth and lower case truth? That is how my dad rationalizes the authority of the workers, while dismissing the stinky fruits that emerge under their administration. This conceptual bifurcation of piety came up in the Laura Glantz interview. In search of coherancy after her deranging experience at the hands of an elder in the 2x2, she sought to aggregate all things under One single, uniting interpretive assumption or filter. Truth came to be two-storied during the Protestant era. Like James’s rebuke of the double minded man, this trend of cultural bankruptcy is no bueno to the Soul. The Truth and Way of Jesus Christ New Testament 2x2apostolic ministry and worship on Sunday, which the early 2x2 workers uphold and follow…. The current 2x2 adm. is going off the tracts these days… They need to get back on Jesus tracts again to reach the goal. I totally agree with you, they began going of tracks with their Anti-Trinity/Triune God; Jesus is NOT God ONLY the Father is God back in 1960s. It has gone down hill from that false teachings, the friends don’t know who Jesus is…. Jesus is the Son of God and that is enough for them! They just believe a portion of Jesus, NOT a complete Jesus, who is Both the Son of God and God the second person of the Trinity/Triune God. Yes, I do pray they get BACK to the TRUE teachings of Jesus like the early days, who had a clear REVELATION of Christ is God the Son, and his New Testament 2x2 apostolic Itinerant ministry and worship meetings in homes of believers, to worship in Spirit and Truth to the Godhead= God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit, given them adoration, praises, and thanksgiving to Christ who died for our sins, and the Holy Spirit as our Protector, guide and Teacher to REVEAL Christ’s TRUE teachings to us to share with the world.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 27, 2024 10:47:16 GMT -5
The overseers have been Satan’s primary path to infiltrate. I wouldn’t look to them to lead the way out. Yes, Satan has the world in the palms of his hands from the beginning of time. Satan’s main goal and concern is to destroy Christ’s New Testament ministry and God’s people, take their understanding and vision of Truth from them. Where there is no vision people perish! Read II Thess chapter 2. Satan can’t conquer or defeat Jesus 2x2 apostolic ministry and God’s truth and way on earth, he has been trying for 2000 treats and failed miserably. The current overseers need to update their ministry! Ways of doing thing that is to cooperate with The FBI to get rid of CSA abusers from the ministry and fellowship ASAP or it will be a big thorn on their side for years to come. There are MANY good and godly workers and friends out there want to change things they see that is wrong! Give them time to sort things out.
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Post by Lee on Feb 27, 2024 10:53:23 GMT -5
I think they were off the rails from the get go. Anyone or any sectarian development who imagined Christianity was wholly wrong (meaning all people who had named Christ in truth or in fiction up to that time) is projecting the degree of their own estrangement from Jesus. Focusing on a formula such as home meetings or sacraments of asceticism is to deny the deity and supremacy of the King.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 28, 2024 10:42:21 GMT -5
I think they were off the rails from the get go. Anyone or any sectarian development who imagined Christianity was wholly wrong (meaning all people who had named Christ in truth or in fiction up to that time) is projecting the degree of their own estrangement from Jesus. Focusing on a formula such as home meetings or sacraments of asceticism is to deny the deity and supremacy of the King. In 1898 most of the workers and the friends believed and taught the Trinity/Triune God; Jesus is God the Son NOT God the Father. The word God/Elohim refers to God the Father and Christ. They got it correct in 1898. Yes, I agree the current majority of the workers and the friends messed up with their thinking of having Sunday worship gathering praying, singing hymns of adoration, given praises and thanksgiving to God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit. AFTER the Sunday morning worship meeting, they preach/teach DENIED Jesus is NOT God! The 2x2s put Jesus Christ on the same level of Divine as God the Father and the Holy Spirit on Sunday but from Monday to Saturday the 2x2s say Jesus is NOT God! What a confusing bunch of people. Of course Jesus is NOT God the Father but God the Son/Christ! The current workers and friends need to correct this errors and thinking for sure.
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Post by Lee on Feb 28, 2024 10:49:06 GMT -5
I think you’re lost in the weeds of technicalities.
Keep the following in the forefront of your mind:
1) the world is, and the world is manifesting sin
2) jesus is, and he represents health and intelligence or truth that transcends the diabolical orbit of our world
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Post by fixit on Feb 28, 2024 13:31:46 GMT -5
It has gone down hill from that false teachings, the friends don’t know who Jesus is…. Jesus is the Son of God and that is enough for them! They just believe a portion of Jesus, NOT a complete Jesus, who is Both the Son of God and God the second person of the Trinity/Triune God. You're a broken record Nate. God the second person of the Trinity/Triune God came hundreds of years after Jesus.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 28, 2024 13:52:43 GMT -5
It has gone down hill from that false teachings, the friends don’t know who Jesus is…. Jesus is the Son of God and that is enough for them! They just believe a portion of Jesus, NOT a complete Jesus, who is Both the Son of God and God the second person of the Trinity/Triune God. You're a broken record Nate. God the second person of the Trinity/Triune God came hundreds of years after Jesus. 2x2s friends and workers like you give us/2x2 Trinity workers/friends believers a BAD name! Among Majority of Christians churches/denominations. They call us/2x2 Anti-trinity non-believers Cultist group for denying Jesus as one of the Godhead. NOT ALL of the 2x2s are Anti-Trinity believers! God/Christ the second person Person/Divine Being of the Trinity existed long before he incarnated and lived in the person Jesus 2000 years ago! Christ, the Second Person of the Godhead/Triune/Trinity is ETERNAL! It’s mention from Genesis chapter 1 to the book of Revelation. So, How can God the son came 100’s years after Jesus ascended back to the Father?
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Post by fixit on Feb 28, 2024 14:25:27 GMT -5
2x2s friends and workers like you give us/2x2 Trinity workers/friends believers a BAD name! We would have a bad name if we believed angels fly in and out of a hollow Venus in spacecraft...
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 28, 2024 14:50:47 GMT -5
2x2s friends and workers like you give us/2x2 Trinity workers/friends believers a BAD name! We would have a bad name if we believed angels fly in and out of a hollow Venus in spacecraft... That is facts of life! There is nothing bad about that. The guardian humans looking angels have to live somewhere and they must have vehicles/crafts to get from one planet to the next, from one galaxy to the next. Just like us mortal human beings with cars, bus, trains, ship and airplanes getting one from one long destination to the next destination. Like the whistle blower Billy W. Who worked underground Area51 for almost 12 years. He entered the hollow earth 6 times said every planet in our solar system is hollow, and it has two openings top and bottom. That is the gospel truth! Jesus said it himself in Rev22:16. He gave us the location of his home inside of Venus planet 2000 years ago. The United States secret government KNOWS Jesus is from Venus planet information since 1930s.
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Post by fixit on Feb 28, 2024 15:08:20 GMT -5
We would have a bad name if we believed angels fly in and out of a hollow Venus in spacecraft... That is facts of life! There is nothing bad about that. The guardian humans looking angels have to live somewhere and they must have vehicles/crafts to get from one planet to the next, from one galaxy to the next. Just like us mortal human beings with cars, bus, trains, ship and airplanes getting one from one long destination to the next destination. Like the whistle blower Billy W. Who worked underground Area51 for almost 12 years. He entered the hollow earth 6 times said every planet in our solar system is hollow, and it has two openings top and bottom. That is the gospel truth! Jesus said it himself in Rev22:16. He gave us the location of his home inside of Venus planet 2000 years ago. The United States secret government KNOWS Jesus is from Venus planet information since 1930s. I rest my case.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 28, 2024 15:16:24 GMT -5
That is facts of life! There is nothing bad about that. The guardian humans looking angels have to live somewhere and they must have vehicles/crafts to get from one planet to the next, from one galaxy to the next. Just like us mortal human beings with cars, bus, trains, ship and airplanes getting one from one long destination to the next destination. Like the whistle blower Billy W. Who worked underground Area51 for almost 12 years. He entered the hollow earth 6 times said every planet in our solar system is hollow, and it has two openings top and bottom. That is the gospel truth! Jesus said it himself in Rev22:16. He gave us the location of his home inside of Venus planet 2000 years ago. The United States secret government KNOWS Jesus is from Venus planet information since 1930s. I rest my case. How do you think Christ and the two humans looking angels get from heaven to earth (Genesis chapters 17-19. Two of the angels went to Sodom and Gomorrah to rescue Lot and his family from that wicked cities God the Father going to destroyed it in the Old. How did the angels come to earth in New Testament times, by Walking?
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